Lion of the Blogosphere

Regarding the Game of Thrones books by George R.R. Martin

I read the first four books probably not too long after the fourth book came out, maybe 2006 or 2007? It has been a long time and I don’t remember how the books are different than what’s on HBO.

By the time the fifth book came out in 2011, it was such a long time since I read the fourth book that I didn’t feel like I could just pick it up again.

And the sixth and seventh books are still being worked on, even though it has now been more than 20 years since the first book was written.

It seems to me that George R.R. Martin just ran out of steam after writing the first three books. He’s now 68 year old, I’m afraid that he’s going to wind up dying before he finishes his series, just as happened with Robert Jordan.

If the series is ever finished, and at that time I’m still young enough to enjoy these types of books, then maybe I will re-read the series from start to finish.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 17, 2017 at EDT am

Posted in Books, Uncategorized

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  1. At this point, season 7 has outraced the books, so either it’s based on some sort of outline Martin has or HBO just got tired of waiting for Martin to finish his theater rehabs and balloon rides. S maybe Martin can just copy HBO’s direction.

    Mike Street Station

    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • The show’s producers have GRRM’s notes and know the character’s fates,;GRMM is cognizant that he might die before the books are finished.


      July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  2. Feast for Crows (2005) was terrible, terrible, terrible. 1,000 pages about all the characters nobody cares about. I stopped giving a shit at that point. Frankly I think the HBO writers will do a better job of finishing it than GRRM would.


    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  3. Well, Patrick Rothfuss has finally written the 3rd book of the “King Killer Chronicle” but no release date has been set yet.

    May I recommend to you a short fantasy by Brandon Sanderson “The Emperor’s Soul”? It is only about 200 pages and complete in itself.


    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  4. I read somewhere that originally the series was supposed to be just three books long. I guess they asked him to drag it out to make more money. The first three books all came out between 1996-2000, with the fourth coming out in 2005.

    Jean Ralphio

    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  5. You might as well read A Dance With Dragons. It’s better than A Feast For Crows, at any rate.

    George R. R. Martin is like pizza: even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good. Or maybe a better analogy would be to a great songwriter like Bob Dylan. Obviously, Dylan is never going to produce an album that equals Highway 61 or Blonde on Blonde again. But his better late albums, e.g. Love and Theft, are still better than most artists could do. Likewise, it’s very unlikely that GRRM will produce anything on the level of the first three asoiaf novels, but that doesn’t mean the rest of the series is bad and not worth reading.

    It would be a little more worrying if there were a consistent downward trend. But, as 99% of people could agree, A Feast For Crows is the worst of the lot. The last one was, at minimum, an uptick.

    Greg Pandatshang

    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  6. Just got back from Hollywood. The word is Martin’s last GOT book will be entitled “A Search for Money.”


    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  7. “changed”

    They fagged up Renly (His book character is completely at odds with the show, and there are maybe two very vague references to him liking men, no actual gay scenes in the book).
    They insert an anti-gun message involving Joffrey and his crossbow. (completely made up)
    They have the religious “fanatics” lock up Loras for homosexuality. (completely made up)
    They are currently running an almost complete girrrrl power narrative. There is currently a single man out of the 6 or 7 most powerful people. Although at least The Hound is still around as well.

    Anonymous Funk

    July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Nope, Renly was gay in the books as well, but the references are vague. You’re right that there are no gay scenes in the books.

      Loras (book spoiler) gets wounded in battle and is near death as of a Dance With Dragons — there’s no subplot of him getting locked up. Oh, and I want to add that his sister, Margaery, is a very minor character.

      I recall one scene in the series, where Olenna is having a conversation with Tywin, and she tries to compel Tywin to admit if he ever had a gay experience or desires in his youth, and he looks her in the eye and firmly replies “Never”. The way the scene is delivered somehow makes Tywin even more of a villain for being completely straight.


      July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • What do you mean by “nope”. Renly in the books is a big, handsome, long haired, swaggering, almost larger than life character. He is completely miscast. The references to his being possible vague are vague and could be interpreted as off-hand insults. But, I’ll grant you they at least hint at the possibility.

        Anonymous Funk

        July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • So, to summarize, with regards to two of the very most prominent political disputes of my lifetime, so-called “gay rights” and gun control, they completely make up scenarios in order to inject their ideology.

      Fuck em.

      Anonymous Funk

      July 17, 2017 at EDT pm

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