Lion of the Blogosphere

The military is no place for transgendered people.

The military is more than just a job, it’s literally a way of life, which means bunking and showering in group facilities. Do female soldiers want to have a male with his private parts cut off using the same facilities? Is a woman who has had surgery to become a “man” safe when surrounded by a much of macho prole types? Are army doctors supposed to give them hormone shots?

Makes sense to me to just say “no” to all of those complications.

While gay people have some justification in saying they can’t help it if they are born gay, no one is born transgendereed. Transgenderism is a choice. Young men who want to join the military should just not get their stuff chopped off.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 26, 2017 at 4:54 pm

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  1. Unit cohesion is essential in the military. If you can’t fit in, find something else to do.

    Sid

    July 26, 2017 at 5:08 pm

  2. NeoGaf, citing Politico, is saying that this was about the Wall money. Ryan couldn’t get the votes for the Wall because the TruCon idiots in the House refused to go along with a spending bill that continued to fund trannies in the military. So Trump just banned trannies to make the issue moot so now the TruCon idiots will be momentarily appeased long enough for us to get the first bit of wall cash through.

    Otis the Sweaty

    July 26, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    • Wall preserves nation. No nation that lets transgenders serve can long last. Sounds like win/win.

      Andrew E.

      July 26, 2017 at 5:36 pm

      • So you are expecting England and Israel to both disappear soon for letting transgenders serve in their military?

        mikeca

        July 27, 2017 at 12:03 am

      • The Israeli army mandates service by most everyone; their social objectives are broader and more diffuse than the US military. Check out this movie about broads serving in the Israeli army for a sense of the difference. Spoiler alert, the girls don’t want to be there and the army’s not enamoured of them either.

        Curle

        July 27, 2017 at 12:40 am

      • @mikeca,

        There is no comparison between the Israeli military and the US military. With respect to curle, the IDF’s purpose is certainly not the case that “The Israeli army mandates service by most everyone; their social objectives are broader and more diffuse than the US military.” I would say that’s more true of the US military, most of which strikes me as redundant militarily, and exists as an alternate employment and spoils system.

        The purpose of the IDF is to kill the enemy. That’s it. In the early days of the state, they did some nation-building and some assimilating, but these functions were never ends in and of themselves.

        Even when I was in Israel a million years ago, people were already talking about phasing out female participation. That got hooted down on nationalistic grounds. Yet something like 50% of girls find a way to dodge the draft. It’s easy for a girl. There isn’t a lot for them to do. The difference between the requirements for men and women are legion. That girls don’t do combat is only the beginning.When a girl gets married, she’s exempt from reserve duty. Men have to serve until they are 55. And so on.

        I have heard repeatedly from people who have experience in both the US and the Israeli military that the US military is way more top-down. Transgenders and gays serve in the IDF but they aren’t really accepted. In the US, the brass can force things on the rank and file, but it doesn’t work that way in the IDF.

        The people who run the IDF in the true, operational sense of the word are lieutenants in control of combat units. I don’t care what they tell you or what it says on paper, they are the ones who decide who gets in their unit. By the 1980s, these guys were already heavily modern Orthodox. So, a lieutenant who is religious, 26 and already has four kids is going to allow a tranny in his unit? Dream on, mikeca.

        gothamette

        July 27, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      • The trannies are probably doing desk jobs or stuff like that.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 27, 2017 at 5:02 pm

      • “So you are expecting England and Israel to both disappear soon for letting transgenders serve in their military?”

        Do you seriously think there will be transgenders serving in the British military 50 years from now? This is just a flash in the Weimar pan. A fad that will be gone once the new masters are in charge.

        Mike Street Station

        July 27, 2017 at 6:54 pm

      • “you are expecting England and Israel to both disappear soon”

        England has already disappeared. It is no longer demographically or culturally recognizable as the nation it was as recently as 1990. Trannies in the UK military are merely another symptom of this.

        Moreover, as the British military does not exist to defend Britain, the weakening of the British military will not cause Britain to disappear. (Its only purpose is to be America’s bitch and to support America in any pointless military adventures America chooses to undertake.)

        Tarl

        July 27, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      • The Politco article is priceless, thanks for link.

        The Republicans, as illustrated in this article, are truly a bunch of cucks, perverts, and whackos. Trump cut their balls off, good for him. They are trannies — political trannies.

        As I said, I’m off the Trump train, but when he does good things, I’ll give him all the credit. Kol Hakovod, Donald!

        gothamette

        July 28, 2017 at 11:42 am

    • this is the other side of the coin on the ridiculous demonization of Mitt.

      There are nearly 0 votes left for Trump to lose over these wedge issues so he is free to do whatever he wants.

      Lion o' the Turambar

      July 26, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    • Curle

      July 27, 2017 at 12:40 am

  3. In times of conflict would there be any harm in sending separate transwhat divisions to the front lines?

    The enemy might die of laughter.

    New dimensions of Very “Special” Forces…

    Any casualties in Very “Special” transwhat divisions would at least mean little loss of fertility & mothers & fathers responsible for raising children.

    In history weren’t there traditions of eunuchs in battle?

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    July 26, 2017 at 5:28 pm

  4. Transgendered people claim that they are born transgendered and that it’s not a choice. While there’s no way to independently verify this, the same is true of homosexuality. I think the right position is simply that society shouldn’t have to turn itself on its head to accommodate a small minority of freaks and weirdos. That is the true counter-liberal position, as opposed to the mainstream con position that’s always trying to justify itself by liberal principles, letting liberals set the terms of the debate, trying to defend oneself against the inevitable “vile bigots like you said the same thing about racial integration, and opponents of that are now on the ash heap of history where they belong” argument in good faith, etc.

    Hermes

    July 26, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    • Bingo. Never argue with the left on their terms, reject their premises altogether.

      Jason Liu

      July 26, 2017 at 8:10 pm

      • “Bingo. Never argue with the left on their terms, reject their premises altogether.”

        In most cases that’s true. In others, it doesn’t matter because even if you grant them their premises their desired conclusion doesn’t follow.

        Lewis Medlock

        July 27, 2017 at 2:59 pm

  5. Your case is perfectly made and I’m glad that Trump is on board with it.

    My deepest regret with Trump so far is this dust up with Sessions. Trump talks about loyalty, but Sessions has been loyal since before day 1. Somebody has got to get through to Trump and have him back off Session, make up and play nice. I hope somebody in Trumps team reads your blog.

    Daniel

    July 26, 2017 at 6:01 pm

  6. Transgendered people (and homosexuals) are mentally ill and need psychiatric care and supervision. They really should not be in a military unit or in any position of responsibility. The Catholic Church pedophile scandal of a generation ago was really a homosexual seduction of teenage boys scandal. Unfortunately, the Catholic hierarchy is still infested with homosexuals, as are the clergies of all Protestant and Jewish cults.

    Bob sykes

    July 26, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    • True, and true.

      This is a common sense position by Trump. But it’s also a bit of a nothingburger issue. Of the transgendered people in the US, which are exceedingly few, an even smaller percentage want to join the military. This probably affects 100 people max.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      July 26, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    • right, we don’t let schizophrenics join the military. A mental illness was a disqualifier until the Obama administration came along.

      Mike Street Station

      July 26, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    • Jewish Rabbi can marry so I don’t see why you think they are homosexuals.

      Hashed

      July 26, 2017 at 9:56 pm

      • As a member of The Tribe myself, I can tell you that there are rabbis who are “married” to members of the same sex. I know of two such examples to start. But given our commitment to social justice before God, I suppose the only thing that would be of concern is that the partners also be Jewish.

        sestamibi

        July 27, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      • Those must be reformists Jews, the reformism is not a religion and certainly not the Jewish religion, it is a cultural club for non religious liberal American Jews.

        Hashed

        July 27, 2017 at 7:11 pm

  7. Both England and Israel allow transgendered people to serve in their military. They don’t seem to have issues with unit cohesion.

    mikeca

    July 26, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    • The UK probably couldn’t win a second Falklands War without US assistance, so they’re irrelevant. According to this article bragging about how successful Israel has been with its transgender policy, it’s revealed that the Israeli military has only five — five! — transgender individuals in their entire service. When the number is that minuscule, you can afford a little virtue signaling. Supposedly the USA has 15,000.

      http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-one-military-that-has-no-problem-with-1501093682-htmlstory.html

      Richard

      July 26, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    • England does it because it’s a Progressive basketcase.

      Israel allows gays and transgenders primarily because they have a small population with large manpower demands.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 26, 2017 at 8:35 pm

      • The comparisons with Israel are dumb and you should always push back on them.

        Israel is a small country where paper-pushing LGBT conscripts sleep at their parents’ house every night. They’re not manning fire bases in Afghanistan for half a year.

        Mandatory conscription + going home on a regular basis = very different flavor of military service. It’s why I sometimes say that the IDF isn’t an army but instead the world’s most powerful militia.

        IHTG

        July 27, 2017 at 4:20 am

      • See my long rant above, which addresses these issues.

        Most people have zero idea how the IDF truly operates. It is nothing like the US military. It’s really more like a bunch of militias. The word militia is a quotation from a 4th generation Israeli combat vet. If it reminds me of anything in the US, it would be the various armies that fought in the US civil war.

        gothamette

        July 27, 2017 at 3:15 pm

      • The comparisons with Israel are dumb and you should always push back on them.

        Most of them don’t know what the hell they’re talking about when it comes to Israel. And this is one of the better websites to talk about Israel centric topics.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        July 27, 2017 at 6:14 pm

      • I wrote my comment about militias w/o reading IHTGs. Just saying.

        gothamette

        July 28, 2017 at 11:35 am

    • You WOULD say that, wouldn’t you.

      Camlost

      July 26, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    • How many transgenders serve in the Israeli military? You can count them on your fingers.

      Yakov

      July 26, 2017 at 11:37 pm

      • NONE in combat units. 0

        gda

        July 27, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    • Britain hasn’t fought a serious war in which unit cohesion really mattered since 1945. Ever since then it has been “wars of choice” and the survival of the nation was not at stake.

      In Israel’s case, 1973 was the last serious war. Now that their potential enemies have been bought off (Egypt) or fallen into chaos (Syria) they can perhaps afford to play games with their military.

      If either one had to fight an existential war, I’m not sure how well they would do. Good thing that’s unlikely.

      Tarl

      July 27, 2017 at 7:03 pm

  8. “…no one is born transgendered.”

    Not according to most transgendered individuals. They usually say they were a man trapped inside a woman’s body or vice versa. Having the operation, on the other hand, is clearly a choice.

    Lewis Medlock

    July 26, 2017 at 6:56 pm

  9. Transgenderism isn’t a choice.. It’s a mental illness.. You think someone wants to go through all that trouble by choice?

    That aside it being a choice or not doesn’t matter, the military has strict physical/mental health requirements that don’t care about your choice in many things.

    Kaz

    July 26, 2017 at 7:24 pm

  10. As ever, Trump is good at showing how unrepresentative the GOP is of its own voters. Ask any rank and file Republican and this would be pretty uncontroversial, but John McCain, Joni Ernst and Ken Buck have already condemned Trump’s decision, and there are likely others echoing the cry. A lot of people who have been elected as Republicans seem to really be just Democrats who like low taxes.

    Richard

    July 26, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    • Just last year McCain was railing at Obama for allowing ‘transgenders’ in the military. How does he reconcile that?

      gda

      July 27, 2017 at 6:56 pm

  11. The left believes that transgenderism IS inborn, as in gender dysphoria — feeling like they’re the opposite sex regardless of genitalia. This could be a real thing, but it’s hard to tell because social justice sentiment makes western academia biased and untrustworthy.

    Either way, these issues are not about reason. The left sees some social minority, and either feels bad for them (“empathy”) or use them as a weapon against normal/majority/hierarchies. That’s it. They have to be confronted at that level. That is, society is not obliged to bend for the needs of tiny minorities, especially when there’s no shortage of normal people who could be soldiers.

    Jason Liu

    July 26, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    • Yes, that’s exactly it. The left claims to be the side of “science” but in reality they don’t care about evidence or proof. They just see anything that smacks of traditional morality or traditional Western civilization as bad, and anything that is subversive of those things as good.

      Hermes

      July 26, 2017 at 11:43 pm

    • “feeling like they’re the opposite sex”. Emphasis on “feeling”.

      And I thought progressives were all about the “blank state”. How, under that scenario, does a child get born “feeling” they are of the opposite sex?

      gda

      July 27, 2017 at 6:59 pm

      • Everyone is born with the exact same IQ and exact same inclination towards criminal activity, but very different sex instincts.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 27, 2017 at 7:44 pm

      • yet lion mocks the plot to destroy western civ.

        sad!

        no...that's really what she said!

        July 27, 2017 at 10:53 pm

  12. I command a Navy warship. The entire transgender exercise has proven to be a massive distraction and an administrative redass. I have squandered numerous limited training opportunities with mandated tg training that mostly served as soft re-education efforts. Most sailors were fairly ambivalent to the whole thing, right up to the point where they realized the whole point of the convoluted policy process was to afford max opportunities to tg sailors who simultaneously maximizing restrictions on others’ options. Don’t want to berth/shower with a tg? Too bad! That makes you a bigot. From the mandatory CO training: “why should your discomfort be allowed to violate someone else’s rights?”

    I have one sailor approved to begin the tg process. She is obviously facing difficult mental health issues, issues that in any other context would have resulted in her being sent LIMDU months ago. She is obviously not fit for sea duty. I have kicked out sailors for many reasons that are much less complicated that tg issues. I have ADSEP’d sailors for being fat, for failing to qualify for watchstanding positions, for medical conditions making the person unfit for sea duty … I’ve even had to separate someone for not having consistent 24/7 childcare for his kid. I am given zero latitude with respect to drug use (one positive test = OTH discharge, even pot). So if I have to kick out sleepwalking sailors, I see no idea why anyone would think tg people are fit for duty.

    Of course, fitness had nothing to do with the tg policy. This was entirely the function of an activist leftist political effort that is enamored of the sheer power of the military’s chain of command and its tradition of avoiding politics. It is the symptom of a political class that does not really think that the military will ever face a real threat and are wholly unserious about the life and death reality of potential combat operations. Thank God for Mr Trump – this decision alone made his election worthwhile.

    Milestone D

    July 26, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    • heh, heh. Mikeca, BTFO.

      Andrew E.

      July 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    • Thank you for your service.

      Two in the Bush

      July 26, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    • Lion has an actual US Navy Captain reading his blog? To me, that’s far more impressive than this or that 2nd-rate journalist he’s always speculating is reading his blog.

      Hermes

      July 27, 2017 at 9:19 am

    • Wow, thank you for your comment and your service. Your perspective influenced me. My initial reaction to this news was similar to most people around me (I work at a FANG in SV), but having this put in perspective of practical reality of the job versus the abstract rights of people, I understand the issue now better. Please continue to comment.

      Andrew

      July 27, 2017 at 5:35 pm

  13. When I was a youth of the late 70’s early 80’s, trannys were not unheard of and they were a frightening lot, usually black, usually carrying a knife or a straight edge and unafraid to brandish it. They would work as prostitutes and go here http://www.penguinrestaurant.com/ after hours to create even more chaos as I was just trying to get the doc martens off whatever drunk fat chick that had money for beer.

    During my years of complete drug fueled debauchery I was around more trannys than a normal person would be around in several lifetimes, and now not so frightening but sad, more white and there are clearly mental issues going on, all of them seem to come from abusive childhoods, some of the stories are downright tragic. There is really nothing more sad than a pudgy 30 year old pock marked misfit trying to find his place in the world by dressing as a woman, you just want to hold the poor bastard but they would take it the wrong way. I always thought it ironic that they were putting forth more of an effort to be feminine than the drunken slatterns I found myself with at the time.

    Fast forward to today and we find the same weak, callous social strivers trying to present them as some sort of normal rather than demanding they be given help to overcome the mania. These non-prole types, can’t fathom blacks are violent and trannys are mentally ill, what a useless lot.

    Normal people get this, trannys have issues beyond the garden variety, they don’t need to be in the military.

    Trump doesn’t need to be loyal to Sessions, Sessions needs to be loyal to Trump. People worried about it being bad form or whathaveyou, please, these are big boys,, I supported Sessions but Trump is spot on, a little less time harassing dopers and people with too much cash on hand and a little more time harassing the powers that be is certainly called for.

    Trump needs to be loyal to us. I’m hard pressed to think of too many times he hasn’t been, the Czech (Poland? Wherever) speech a couple weeks ago, the Boy Scout speech, the audacity to say no to the lunatic enablers of sexual maniacs, he is loyal to us. I would go to war for Trump, Sessions, not so much.

    Lindsey Graham is up in arms about the tranny ban, I suppose John McCain would be as well if he could remember if he was a top or a bottom. The rest of us, all in on the Trump Tranny Gambit.

    Tiger of the Cosmos

    July 26, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    • “Lindsey Graham is up in arms about the tranny ban,”

      Really? He’s so out now he’s getting careless? Or is this his last term?

      Curle

      July 27, 2017 at 12:06 am

  14. Obama introduced this discrimination for transgenders. A professional army doesn’t enrol physically or mentally ill people, that is the norm, transgenders were abnormal and discriminatory against fat people or diabetic people or any other minor mental issue people who are not allowed into the army.
    It is a bit different in a compulsory army like the Israeli army. Over there they accommodate anyone, even severe cases of rare diseases, autism and whatnot. Because the army is considered more than a war machine, almost like a combination of an high school and a militia.

    Hashed

    July 26, 2017 at 10:02 pm

  15. The problem is that the left sees the military as a jobs program, rather than something essential to national defense. Therefore, they don’t care that their action make the military less effective, because it is simply another government office like the post office or the DMV.

    In New Jersey you cannot discriminate against prison guards based on gender. Therefore, you have men working as guards in women’s prison and women working as guards in men’s prison. Why, yes, this leads to violations of the prisoners’ rights. Why do you ask?

    ScarletNumber

    July 26, 2017 at 10:33 pm

  16. Meanwhile, here’s a story buried faster than a black teenager attack on whites. Gay mayor of Seattle and leader of the state’s gay marriage campaign molested young boys in the 80s when he was working as a youth center. I know this guy, he’s so overtly fruity he screams GAY and yet he was made a foster parent to teenage boys as a single wildly gay male.

    Buying into the idea that there’s no connection between gay and child perv is costing these kids bigly.

    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/mayor-ed-murray-sexually-abused-foster-son-child-welfare-investigator-found-in-1984/

    Curle

    July 27, 2017 at 12:25 am

    • Tucker Carlson and the paediatrician. watch from around 33.24
      https://www.youtube.com/wat

      This ban is just a first step at combating this perfidious nonsense that “transgenderism” is a real and ACCEPTED “thing”. It’s not, its a mental illness, and people are committing child abuse because of its ‘normalization’ in society.

      Think pedophilia is bad? This may be worse.

      Pedophilia can be a limited event. Castrating your children, or your adopted children, is forever.
      If this is allowed, then next thing you know, all the gays will be freed up to do what they like with THEIR children. What was the percentage of gays who preferred “young” partners again?

      Surely this can’t be allowed to remain legal? Jeff Sessions, stop with the asset forfeiture and the pot crackdown and focus on this. Laws against, please.

      gda

      July 27, 2017 at 7:04 pm

  17. Transgenders in military are pathetic losers. I mean real pathetic. Nobody wants them in the military and they still want that job. But why? Maybe their career prospects are so dim that military is probably the only viable job for them. LOL. or maybe they need that free college that bad. sheesh…

    I can’t believe I am agreeing with Trump again and again on many issues !!

    mpt

    July 27, 2017 at 2:18 am

    • Transsexuality is a vector for exhibitionists who get off on shocking the straights, and what could be a more thrilling conquest than infiltrating something as tight-laced, conformist and rigidly doctrinaire as the U.S. military?

      Richard

      July 27, 2017 at 10:46 am

    • The Left wants them in the military because the Left wants to weaken the US military and to stick a finger in the eye of military officers (whom the Left regards as a subset of the hated Christian / conservative / prole groups).

      Tarl

      July 27, 2017 at 7:09 pm

  18. Choice or not is beside the point. The central question is if the army is seen as a jobs program (for “underprivileged”) or as something that is not only a job but even as a job requires the applicants to be largely free of physical and mental health issues. That some people will later have a desk job in the army is missing that crucial point.
    If one wants to help underprivileged people, get them desk jobs elsewhere where all the problematic mental/physical health issues that are clearly far above average both in gays and transgenders are not as important as they are in the army.

    (I don’t recall transgenders issues, but in Germany we had at least two cases with young women serving on navy ships who died from accidents that were basically rooted in them not being physically fit to serve on such a ship but the thresholds had been lowered because discrimination. This is really way beyond stupid. It leads to problems, injuries, death, even under peaceful conditions; one does not want to think about what happens in critical conditions)

    parrhesia

    July 27, 2017 at 5:09 am

  19. The U.S. military is, in practice, primarily an institution for enabling, supporting, and provoking our enemies. We haven’t been in real danger of a military invasion since the mid-19th century. And funny enough, we barely had a standing army in those days.

    Our armed forces only have two theoretically useful purposes:

    1. Preserving the nuclear deterrent.
    2. Preventing a coup, especially a left-wing coup.

    The first can probably be done despite trannies, gays, and anything else. A small number of men can keep the nukes online, regardless of whatever nonsense the rest of the troops are engaged in. We still have enough nukes that the fear of 10% of them firing is enough to deter anyone.

    The second is mostly wishful thinking, as our military has never been tested in preserving the Constitution. When would its officers ever deem some Constitutional transgression a bridge too far, so long as it was blessed by some left-wing judges somewhere? And because of the oath to the Constitution, I don’t think our officers would ever launch a coup to overthrow a democratically-elected left-wing government, a la Pinochet or Franco.

    But if it wasn’t for the second point, we wouldn’t really care if our military was grossly incompetent. Frankly, I’d rather we’d have been less effective at bombing the Serbs.

    That said, I’m opposed to the tranny nonsense in the military because I’m opposed to it everywhere. But worrying about our military’s capabilities is for other kinds of conservatives. If another white genocide happens somewhere, our military is more likely to be aiding it than resisting it.

    All things equal, I’m in favor of disbanding our ground forces. Keep the Air Force and Navy, for now. History has shown that an Air Force is still enough to enact a coup or counter-coup, if we’re worried about these things.

    Wency

    July 27, 2017 at 8:14 am

    • These days if the Russians want to dominate Europe or the Chinese to dominate Asia or either one wants to meddle in shitty Third World countries my feeling is, “fuck it, have fun.”

      Tarl

      July 27, 2017 at 7:12 pm

  20. If you had met army girls, you would know they wouldnt be scared about transgender. And I doubt T is a choice more than homosexual practicing their penchant. I think it s Trump going into the bathroom question to please tea party. I dont have any idea on what should be society policy toward those people. I had rather see no policy. Let them bare the cost of all this.

    Bruno

    July 27, 2017 at 10:47 am

  21. Then it is unfair because many people have come out being as transgender because they thought it was ok and now they face being expelled. Even if it is an executive order, the reversal maybe unconstitutional.

    Then I spoke with a british army doctor who told me that american let in amny people who woumd never make it in the UK : people who mutiliates themselves, people investigated for multiple sclerosis etc. So there must be room to improve fairly the quality by paying much more …

    Bruno

    July 27, 2017 at 10:58 am

    • “Then it is unfair because many people have come out being as transgender because they thought it was ok and now they face being expelled.”

      Oh boo hoo. Maybe you should comment at The Mary Sue. You’d feel more at home there.

      peterike

      July 27, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    • Haw. There are many, many, many examples of the US military changing the deal on people after they joined up. Oh, you thought you’d get to serve in this location, or get this schooling you wanted, or be in this particular branch? Nope, so sorry. I know you think it’s unfair, but THE NEEDS OF THE SERVICE COME FIRST.

      Tarl

      July 27, 2017 at 7:16 pm

      • The worst is that people sign up thinking they are just going to get a job and earn money toward college, and then the army says, “hey, we’re putting you on the front lines of a war where you’re going to get shot at by the enemy.”

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 27, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      • And then there’s the prole environment. The military is full of them. Avoid proles at all costs. It’s easy to prole drift, but it’s not easy to achieve and maintain elite status.

        JS

        July 27, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      • like the status of being a puerto rican.

        sad!

        no...that's really what she said!

        July 27, 2017 at 10:45 pm

  22. Does anyone know a single transgendered person who is balanced, stable, well-adjusted and successful?

    Dan

    July 27, 2017 at 11:35 am

    • I don’t know a single transgender person, period.

      • You must be living under a rock. In our gym we have a trany and that’s in BK. Manhattan is full of them. Always comes dressed, made up and perfumed. Has scared and depressed eyes though. Why? Nobody bothers that creature in the gym. I mean, straight, trany or Lion – exercise is good for you. All should have access to the gym. Never noticed what bathroom it uses. I mean, I don’t care. What, I’m gonna follow tranies around now? No way I’m gonna do this. So a trany can be OK, but don’t let them rule the roost.

        The military was supposed to pay for the sex reassignment surgery too. That was nuts! All the tranies in the world would sign up as guys, get reassigned, get paid a tidy sum, get promoted and get honorably discharged as girls. Talk about crazy!

        Trump was, is and always will be the best in this crazy world.

        Yakov

        July 27, 2017 at 7:36 pm

      • i did meet one. he was a dean at a state school. of course he thought he was a woman. absurd.

        no...that's really what she said!

        July 27, 2017 at 10:51 pm

    • Does anyone know a single transgendered person who is balanced, stable, well-adjusted and successful?

      No. Speaking as a physician who has never dealt directly with the issue, but I know colleagues who have and do, the answer is no. They all have major problems in other ways.

      But that goes for the majority of homosexuals, too, which you won’t hear on TV.

      SJ, Esquire

      July 27, 2017 at 12:30 pm

      • canada is america’s gay cousin. very sad.

        no...that's really what she said!

        July 27, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    • Sailer talks about a former MBA classmate who went hetero MTF (attracted to women) and appears to be well-adjusted, according to him. Or at least successful.

      There are really 3 kinds of trannies. Hetero MTF, gay MTF, and FTM. All have different motives.

      Hetero MTFs have some sort of narcissistic fetish, and they are overrepresented among nerds, particularly those with an interest in sci-fi and transhumanism. Gay MTFs are in some ways just a natural extension of homosexuality, and especially the common gay desire to have sex with a straight man. It’s also commonly a
      prostitution strategy, especially in societies where women are owned/protected and therefore the market undersupplies true female prostitutes.

      FTMs are apparently the rarest, though this is the only one that I’ve known personally: a friend’s coworker. She is attracted to women, though in practice I think she’s more or less incel. Very butch and extremely unattractive — has a deformity. I think her motive is that men are judged for what they do, while women are judged for how they look, plus she’s already butch and might have some kind of hormonal imbalance, so why not go male? The problem is she still holds some of the typical anti-male lesbian tendencies inside her and has no male friends.

      I suspect all of this is fairly typical of FTM.

      Of all the groups, hetero MTF is probably the most accomplished, but none of them are typically well-adjusted people. They don’t just make the switch and suddenly fit in among their new sex. They are always going to be bizarre human specimens.

      Gays are less well-adjusted than straights, but still doing a lot better on average than trannies. I’ve personally known three openly gay men. Two were successful and seemed perfectly normal and well-adjusted, while one was an absolute train wreck who died in his 30s of AIDS. Of course, I associate disproportionately with successful people, so there’s some sampling bias.

      Wency

      July 27, 2017 at 1:18 pm

      • the lady doth protest too much me thinks.

        no...that's really what she said!

        July 27, 2017 at 10:49 pm

  23. Are army doctors supposed to give them hormone shots?

    In fact, here in Canada, that is what happens.

    SJ, Esquire

    July 27, 2017 at 12:32 pm

  24. Given the experience the US army’s already had with the Bradley/Chelsea freak-person, why in the world would the Generals want more of that.

    Roli

    July 27, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    • “Chelsea” is the poster-creature for Trump’s statement that trannies are disruptive.

      Tarl

      July 27, 2017 at 7:18 pm

  25. That was vintage Commander in Chief Trump at his best! Remains one and only.

    Yakov

    July 27, 2017 at 3:52 pm


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