Lion of the Blogosphere

Finally, an immigration bill

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/

This is huge. Before Trump, Obama was pushing an open borders policy by ignoring ILLEGAL immigration.

Now, in addition to the Trump administration enforcing the immigration laws again, we have a bill to reduce LEGAL immigration. This is what Trump should have been doing instead of pushing for Obamacare repeal.

But does Trump have enough political capital to get this through Congress? A hands-off approach will surely result in defeat, with 100% opposition from Democrats, plus a large number of globalist Republicans also voting against it.

Trump needs to bring this to the people, and talk “jobs jobs jobs.” Immigrants are taking your jobs.

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I agree that there are deeper reasons to oppose immigration than “jobs jobs jobs,” but it’s uncontroversial to support jobs for Americans, or at least less controversial than any of the other anti-immigration arguments. And the proles like the “jobs jobs jobs” message.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 2, 2017 at 11:53 am

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  1. This is the real prize. This has to be a make or break for the Republican Congress to pass. I’m curious as to how Paul Ryan will explain why he opposes it.

    Mike Street Station

    August 2, 2017 at 11:56 am

    • Indeed.

      More important & more impact than the largely symbolic wall.

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      August 2, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    • Finally, an immigration bill

      DEAD in the water. It will go nowhere.

      Tom Cotton is the Rand Paul of the House. Zero leverage.

      McConnell and Ryan are open borders, corporate globalists.

      There is ZERO financial incentive for this bill. What donors want it?

      Plus, to Establishment Republicans they can reject the bill, pat themselves on the back and say – “This is not who we are as a country” etc etc

      And then basically congratulate themselves for dismissing the “racist, White supremacist, xenophobic” wing of the Republican party.

      That’s win-win for them.

      Now lets get back to more cold war with the Russians and hot war in Afghanistan and maybe North Korea!!!!

      That way the Establishment Republicans can feel the died and went to heaven.

      Rifleman

      August 3, 2017 at 4:03 am

    • I suspect Ryan and McConnell had some kind of deal to back Trump’s immigration policy if he backed theirs on healthcare. But I’m sure Juan McCain and his girlfriend, Miss Graham, will oppose it.

      destructure

      August 3, 2017 at 4:12 am

      • Not only will Juan McCain oppose it but he just announced he’s looking to buddy up with Schumer to push his own immigration “reform” bill. The manchurian candidate does it again.

        destructure

        August 4, 2017 at 11:40 am

  2. Immigrants are taking the country, not just jobs. Gotta bring it to the people, absolutely.

    Yakov

    August 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm

  3. Lame. Immigration should be zero. This barely trims things. CAPPING refugees at 50,000 a year?? Refugees should be zero, with those here returned. Cutting green cards to HALF A MILLION? It should be zero.

    I mean, ok, it’s better than Hillary would be, sure. But this is a civilizational survival issue, and trimming a bit at the edges isn’t giving us one extra year of civilization.

    This bill, as good as might be expected, is still useless. Sad!

    peterike

    August 2, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    • Who defines what a refugee is? Why can’t they be white Christians from Africa or something like that?

      Magnavox

      August 2, 2017 at 12:20 pm

      • I would count JS as a refugee (as well as a pretentious faggot)

        driveallnight

        August 2, 2017 at 11:21 pm

    • Get real dude, your definition of civilization survival is a lost cause.

      The best case future for America is reduced immigration and consequent assimilation of Mexicans and Asians to national norms. Alt-righters think that they have a choice between a white nation and a non-white nation. The real choice being made, however, is between having a nation – ANY nation – or a non-nation. The latter is what the left was careening towards, and is the reason why Trump was elected.

      IHTG

      August 2, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      • A lot of hispanics are white and a lot of their children will end up being white. Hispanic/non hispanic and white/non white are two different types of categories.

        Magnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 2:56 pm

      • Alt-righters think that they have a choice between a white nation and a non-white nation.

        Although the altright is not capable of this, the government is fully capable of creating a white nation if it really, really wants to. If they were able to ethnically cleanse whites out major cities and California they could fairly easily drive racial minorities out of the country.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 2, 2017 at 6:07 pm

      • No, we can’t do that.

        The only way to create a white country is if white separatists were to get there way and be allowed to form their own country, but I don’t know if many people would want to join them.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 2, 2017 at 6:24 pm

      • No, we can’t do that.

        Of course we can.

        In 1880 they would have said “it will never happen” if you asked them if the government would racially cleanse whites out of California.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 2, 2017 at 6:47 pm

      • Wouldn’t white nationalists have to take over the government, at multiple levels from federal to state and local levels, for that to happen? And white nationalists taking over the government would imply the altright taking over the government.

        Also there’d be an international relations dimension since foreign countries would protest and wouldn’t accept the racial minorities that the white nationalist government were trying to drive out. The government would likely have to go to war with a country to be able to dump the racial minorities on the country. Or the white nationalist government would try to round them up in camps in the US and exterminate them there. Either case would be a major international incident.

        Tom

        August 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm

      • And white nationalists taking over the government would imply the altright taking over the government.

        Very amusing.

        The altright’s not goose stepping out of their mom’s basement anytime this millennium.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 2, 2017 at 11:17 pm

      • Depends on what you mean by altright. I think most white nationalists today would consider themselves altright. So white nationalist takeover of the government would imply an altright takeover, or at least a takeover by a faction of the altright.

        Tom

        August 3, 2017 at 12:54 am

      • The only way to create a white country is if white separatists were to get there way and be allowed to form their own country, but I don’t know if many people would want to join them.

        True: America can’t become an all-white country, as a) it never was one (there was always a black minority), and b) a majority of Americans wouldn’t agree to it, particularly non-whites who would be excluded.

        But: America could become a whiter country than it is now. Enforcement of current immigration laws, more affordable family formation, and a shift to skilled immigration, might move the needle in that direction a little.

        The Overton Window may not be wide-enough yet to be explicit about that goal (Stephen Miller didn’t seem to think so, judging by his comments on Wednesday), but it’s really not that far out of bounds when you think about it.

        The key is to point out that America’s demographic change over the last half century has been a political decision, and America can make a political decision to move back in the other direction. Imagine if Trump runs for reelection in 2020 on a platform of, over time, using immigration to move America half way back to its pre-1965 demographic balance, say, a white percentage of 75%, and pointed out that the Democrats’ goal is for whites to become a minority in America. He could also point out that the Democrats’ goal of integrating schools and neighborhoods with white people will be easier to accomplish when there are more white people to go around. To sweeten the pot, he could throw in reparations for descendants of slaves, as part of the deal (in return for abolishing Affirmative Action).

        Let Democrats run against that. Trump would probably get 65% of the white vote, 35% of the Hispanic vote, and 20% of the black vote (Dems would counter with their own reparations proposal, and retain most black votes).

        Dave Pinsen

        August 3, 2017 at 4:32 am

      • The key is not to force post-1965 non-European immigrants out at gunpoint. The point is to make them feel unwelcome and this will happen naturally if/when whites regain a racial consciousness that did once exist in America. Most normal people do not want to be where they are not welcome and they will gradually peel off and move on. And those who can will claim the same identity in order to fit in (ie. white Hispanics and light skinned minorities).

        Andrew E.

        August 3, 2017 at 9:09 am

      • Most immigrants live in ethnic enclaves or in liberal areas away from whites that are into racial consciousness. Making them feel unwelcome by not serving them in restaurants, not hiring them, etc. would require control over the government.

        Tom

        August 3, 2017 at 3:01 pm

      • So white nationalist takeover of the government would imply an altright takeover,

        There is no possibility of the altright accomplishing anything.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 7:02 pm

      • “assimilation of Mexicans and Asians to national norms.” You don’t know much about the subject.

        Mark

        August 3, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    • I haven’t read the details, but if it’s what you say it is, it’s a waste. Got no time to read it, but the main point addressed should be that if the country needs immigration, it should only be an immigration of people who contribute and benefit it. Anyway, only Europeans should be admitted. This is very simple. Cohesion is strength, not diversity.

      Yakov

      August 2, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    • True. The alt-right has work to do to keep moving the culture right towards European identity. And if successful, many non-European legal permanent residents or citizens will feel increasingly unwelcome and cluster more and more in friendlier locales (ie. CA) and eventually leave altogether to return to homelands.

      Andrew E.

      August 2, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    • I understand wanting more, but come on. Let’s not be the right wing version of people who weren’t satisfied with gay marriage being legalized everywhere because trans people are still oppressed.

      Horace Pinker

      August 2, 2017 at 12:56 pm

    • It’s going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get this bill passed. If it can get through it will be a big deal. If one extra year of civilization is all we get, it’s better than no extra year.

      Mike Street Station

      August 2, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    • H.R. McMaster is using a chainsaw against Bannon & Bannonites this week.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      August 2, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      • H.R. McMaster is using a chainsaw against Bannon & Bannonites this week.

        Bannonites?

        No, more like neo-con, pro war with Iran followers of Mike Flynn and Michael Ledeen.

        Get rid of them.

        Rifleman

        August 3, 2017 at 4:06 am

      • No, more like neo-con, pro war with Iran followers of Mike Flynn and Michael Ledeen.

        Whatever. Bannon is on McMaster’s “to do” list along with these current and former NSC advisers.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    • Lame?

      Do you seriously think a zero immigration bill would have any chance? One that cuts it by 50% over ten years may not even be possible.

      Mike Street Station

      August 3, 2017 at 8:24 am

      • A political solution for this will never happen in the US in our lifetimes. All Western countries, with the exception of maybe Iceland, are in the same boat.

        Mark

        August 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    • I am sorry to fulfill Godwin’s law, but let me bring to your attention that your comment is straight up Nazism:
      (See point 4)
      http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm

      You don’t see it, do you? How abominable this way of thinking is… Sad indeed.

      trap-n-skeet

      August 4, 2017 at 6:40 pm

  4. I bought into Trump’s whole deal maker extraordinaire schtick like an idiot. Maybe you could argue he’s failed to actually do any deal making so far because he doesn’t care about things like healthcare. But if he can’t get this through than all that ‘art of the deal’ bravado is purely an act.

    Magnavox

    August 2, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    • You never bought in. You complained from day 1 and there is no question that you wanted a Hillary victory, it’s just that you are too much of a coward to outright support her.

      You keep pointing out Trump’s buffoonery and incompetence like we don’t already know about that. But even if Trump is a total failure the populist genie that he unleashed will never be put back in the bottle.

      Otis the Sweaty

      August 2, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      • But even if Trump is a total failure…

        He CAN’T be a total failure….he got elected President and killed off the Hilary Monster.

        Epic!

        He also put Antonin Scalia jr on the Supreme Court and Jeff Sessions in at AG. And brought Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon into the White House.

        Don’t undersell what Trump has done over the past 2 years.

        Incredible.

        Rifleman

        August 3, 2017 at 4:11 am

    • You complained from day 1 and there is no question that you wanted a Hillary victory, it’s just that you are too much of a coward to outright support her.

      He’s never been for anything.

      Magnavox just takes the opposite opinion to troll everyone – if he were in reality against immigration Magnavox wouldn’t be opposing Trump.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      August 2, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      • Exactly. Embarrassed to have him as my wife’s son.

        Fagnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 11:26 pm

  5. This bill needs 60 votes in the Senate, so I doubt it will pass.

    mikeca

    August 2, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    • 60 votes assumes a Democratic filibuster and Republicans allow it. Not a valid assumption (it might happen that way but there are many other ways it could turn out).

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 2, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    • Also this is Trump being pissed at the GOP establishment and pursuing his own objectives. He’s probably not even going to have solid support from Republicans.

      Magnavox

      August 2, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    • The point is to make Democrats vote against the popular parts of Trump’s policy platform to use against the Democrats in the midterms or give Trump momentum by voting for them. This means setting up votes on the immigration bill, as well Kate’s law, border wall funding, tax cuts, and infrastructure (though infrastructure may pull in Democrat votes).

      Health care was the least popular of Trump’s positions, the remaining items on the Congressional agenda all favor Trump in public opinion.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      August 2, 2017 at 5:03 pm

      • But Trump was supposed to be the doer who gets things done. He’ll look impotent if he doesn’t get some kind of immigration victory. And it’s not like people are going to forget him going all in on the unpopular GOP health care proposals. If he can’t get anything done going with the republicans and he can’t get anything done by bucking them, then what is he worth?

        Magnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm

      • If he can’t get anything done going with the republicans and he can’t get anything done by bucking them, then what is he worth?

        Billions. Next question.

        Andrew E.

        August 2, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      • why don’t you ask that question to the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have already had their lives ruined because of Trump, you ignorant wretch.

        Trump was always going to have a hard time moving anti immigration stuff through the Senate because the Republicans only have a 2 seat majority and the party is still undergoing it’s transition into an anti immigrant party. It is likely that it will not be politically possible to make cuts to legal immigration for at least another 10 years, if even then.

        What Trump has done is started to get the ball rolling on that front while causing incredible hardship to the immigrant community and irrevocably dividing the nation in the meantime.

        You are subhuman scum.

        Otis the Sweaty

        August 2, 2017 at 8:12 pm

      • I’m sure ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands of immigrants will also play great come election time.

        Magnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    • https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/winning-a-game-of-chicken-with-obamacare/

      To force recalcitrant Senators to pass a some sort of repeal of Obamacare Trump has hinted he may end subsidies for the exchanges. If the payments are withdrawn, as I have recommended Trump do, premiums will skyrocket and force the Senate to pass subsidy funds since the House never appropriated money for those subsidies as the Constitution requires them to do before money is spent (to those of you who are not members of Congress, this means the subsidies were and are completely illegal budget expenditures).

      The argument against Trump following this strategy is that he will be blamed for the collapse of the exchanges.

      But this battle is quite winnable if one looks at what would happen in Congress after Trump cancels the payments.

      The key for this gambit to work is that Senate Majority Leader McConnell (probably using the House bill as vehicle legislation to smuggle the new bill through using reconciliation’s rules) insists on attaching a partial repeal of Obamacare to whatever legislation is sure to be written immediately to revive the subsidies in response to Trump’s executive order.

      If McConnell holds to this course (and the Trump White House can give him extra motivation by making it clear he will veto any subsidy fix that does lacks a partial repeal) there will be in existence a budgetary fix – and, for once, this budget fix would be Constitutional! – to “save” the exchanges waiting to move off the Senate floor. The only way the fix does not reach Trump’s desk is if Democrats, or moderate Republican Senators, who shot down the bill last week do not vote it out of the Senate.

      If Senate Democrats refuse to vote for the fix because it is conditional on a partial repeal also becoming law, Trump will be able to say it is the Democrats who are destroying the exchanges, not him, because they are either voting against the bill or holding it up with procedural motions.

      McConnell could be bring up the joint fix and repeal bill numerous times until at least one Democrat or moderate Republican finally caves and votes to send the bill to the House. Until one of those votes succeed, the burden will be on the Democrats to stop blocking the fix and Trump will no doubt enjoy pointing out repeatedly what the holdup is.

      I imagine enough Democrats will eventually cave if they have no choice but to vote for partial repeal.

      The House could then vote only on the Senate bill and send it to Trump’s desk.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      August 2, 2017 at 5:04 pm

  6. The other non-controversial point about immigration that should be emphasized is the impact on healthcare. There will be more more money and treatment available for Americans if we stop importing indigent patients.

    Dave Pinsen

    August 2, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    • Not importing poor is an all around great idea with all sorts of benefits. But not letting poor people immigrate is too close to not letting poor people have children for many people.

      Magnavox

      August 2, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    • No problem, we’ll just import more Nigerian doctors! Said the old lady who swallowed a fly…

      Hermes

      August 3, 2017 at 12:05 am

  7. How can the Left oppose this? They are such morons. They have spent the last year whining about the rise of the Alt Right and how to stop it. Well bingo, this is the bill to stop it. Replace mooching low IQ immigrants with high IQ achievers who will have no problem integrating and contributing to the economy and the Alt Right will have no grievances to complain about anymore, and their support base will dwindle.

    DataExplorer

    August 2, 2017 at 2:51 pm

  8. Speaking of immigration matters….

    Did anyone catch the breaking news from Fox last night: ” After more than a year of investigation, the Pentagon’s inspector general recently issued a report – its contents still classified but its existence disclosed here for the first time – identifying serious problems with Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest (MAVNI), a DOD program that provides immigrants and non-immigrant aliens with an expedited path to citizenship in exchange for military service. “

    ‘Serious problems’ like not knowing where a whole bunch of Muslims, admitted under the program, but not properly vetted, have gone, and what exactly they might be up to. ‘Compromised’ is the word they are using.

    Go read the Federal Bureau Of Investigation Counterterrorism Analytical Lexicon released in January 2008 (timing not a coincidence). The new strictures made it virtually impossible for law enforcement officers to conduct effective counter-terror investigations.

    And that was just the nose under the tent.

    Ring up another triumph for Obama’s policy of changing the ‘terms of engagement’, shutting down all criticism of Muslims, deleting or shelving all relevant intel on known threats collected up to his inauguration, and removing the ability of DoD, DOJ, FBI et al to properly vet and react to threats from Muslims, both here and abroad.

    Ever wonder why, when the FBI had both Orlando and San Bernadino terrorists on their radar, they were unable to actually DO anything to prevent those atrocities? Ever wonder why such a seemingly good policy by the DoD got corrupted and ‘compromised’?

    Look no further. These are the unintended consequences of naively (or was it deliberately?) allowing your enemy free reign in your own country.

    Thanks again Obama. The gift that keeps on giving.

    gda

    August 2, 2017 at 2:56 pm

  9. Stephen Miller talking in today’s White House press conference:

    IHTG

    August 2, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    • He’s knocking it out of the park. Love this guy!

      IHTG

      August 2, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    • Missed the Stephen Miller, but Sanders is really good. Solid, no nonsense. Never stumbles. The press is openly hostile to Trump, but she doesn’t rise to their bait. She’s a good choice.

      peterike

      August 2, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    • IHTG

      August 2, 2017 at 3:57 pm

      • Ehhh, not bad. Acosta is a total tool. But in my dreams when Acosta talks about “engineering racial policy” or whatever I wish Miller had said, “yeah, we want mostly white immigrants.” But outside that, it was pretty solid. For goodness sake, stupid Acosta really DOES want to just let in anybody from everywhere. What a schmo.

        I loved the exchange on the Statue of Liberty tho!

        peterike

        August 2, 2017 at 4:45 pm

      • I don’t think a merit system will get whites. It’ll probably just get Asians and Indians instead of mestizos.

        Magnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 4:51 pm

      • On NeoGaf the consensus is that Acosta won the debate and they are mystified that people think Miller won.

        Otis the Sweaty

        August 2, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      • “On NeoGaf the consensus is that Acosta won the debate and they are mystified that people think Miller won.”

        Really? How? Or was it not based on any debate at all, just that he virtue signaled correctly?

        Acosta: Statue of Liberty bitch! (drops mic, exits to massive applause)

        Mike Street Station

        August 2, 2017 at 7:26 pm

      • “Really? How? Or was it not based on any debate at all, just that he virtue signaled correctly?”

        Yes that is correct. These people live in a different reality and civil war is unavoidable. Probably within the next 20 years.

        Otis the Sweaty

        August 2, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      • I finally watched. Neither one comes off that great. Miller is stilted and awkward and his Dems R the The Racist digression was also really unfortunate. As generic and bland as Acosta is, and as destructive and toxic as the cultural elite that he represents is, at least he comes off as a normal human being and not a asperbergy weirdo. It’s telling that he is the type of Jewish person to have the atypical views he does.

        As for the black woman, she’s just completely worthless. Why do black women feel comfortable using that pissy angry on the ghetto corner affect in professional environments like that?

        Magnavox

        August 2, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      • If Miller were a cool jock bro, he would have just gone along with being a liberal globalist type and would never have become Trump’s speechwriter.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 2, 2017 at 11:09 pm

      • Statue of Liberty bitch!

        Emma Lazarus’ poem from the late 19th century was referring only to white European immigrants.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 2, 2017 at 8:46 pm

      • …stupid Acosta really DOES want to just let in anybody from everywhere. What a schmo.

        He’s not a schmo he’s a la raza racist who wants to promote “his” people taking over as much of the USA as possible.

        He want’s to “racially engineer” a la raza America. And he’s not alone.

        Rifleman

        August 3, 2017 at 4:17 am

    • IHTG

      August 2, 2017 at 5:19 pm

  10. In addition to jobs jobs jobs, President Trump alluded to rampant immigrant welfare dependency — under his plan, new immigrants are not eligible to gorge themselves diabetic upon Uncle Samantha’s taxpayer-funded horn-o-plenty.

    hard9bf

    August 2, 2017 at 3:32 pm

  11. Speaking of immigrants, Lion I think you should get out and give us a first hand account of the Desnudas in Times Square. Apparently, they continue to be pushy pains, and the cops do nothing because they’re mostly illegals, and in DeStupido’s New York, illegals are off-limits.

    Break out the camera and get us some pics!

    http://nypost.com/2017/07/30/desnudas-have-gone-wild-in-times-square/

    peterike

    August 2, 2017 at 3:57 pm

  12. if the health care debacle was intended…to humiliate and expose GOP senators and representatives, then the 4D chess theory has yet to be disconfirmed. trump is on the record as for single payer. the GOP lost in the most pathetic way possible. they’ve been shown to be incompetent and divided. they need a win. the globalist congressmen will give trump what he wants just so they can win.

    the wise leader kim jong trump

    August 2, 2017 at 4:02 pm

  13. adams’s 4D chess theory and lion’s mr magoo theory are not necessarily in conflict.

    why?

    because it could be that anyone who has not been selected by master to serve master and who is 100% impermeable to groupthink, persuasion, etc.

    will behave in a manner…

    which destroys the status quo is dc…

    which serves the people and not the elite.

    trump’s most impressive moment on the campaign trail was when he said, “i’m a truth teller.”

    for elite media and their masters such a statement is meaningless or trite.

    they’re wrong.

    the wise leader kim jong trump

    August 2, 2017 at 4:16 pm

  14. Sen. Feinstein is already attacking this, using the rationale agribusiness and the hospitality industry need cheap labor.

    I was under the impression that both industries largely employed illegals. The farmers have always done so, and in many (most?) cases hotels and motels are franchises, owned and operated by Indians (dot, not feather) who I am sure have little heartburn with sidestepping US immigration law.

    One of her constituents should attend Feinstein’s next town hall, and ask her why she thinks poor minorities in her state who are citizens should have to compete with foreign labor.

    Pete Puma

    August 2, 2017 at 7:30 pm

  15. Immigration bills are not going to solve any problem unless it dictates quotas based on race and culture. Skilled based migration will just bring a lot of Indians or any skilled person from countries which are culturally very far from the white American mainstream. So the road to balkanisation is still intact and in the future America will have 3 or 4 big enough groups which will tear the country apart in a civil war as it happened in Syria, Yugoslavia and any other state where there are more than one dominant group of people.

    Hashed

    August 2, 2017 at 7:52 pm

  16. This is huge. Trump even said he is resolving chain migration, which is itself a much bigger problem.

    The essence of pushing any populist program is, of course, to win, but the program is revelatory even if fails. How? Because it forces out into the open exactly what our politicians think.

    Ending immigration can be simply presented as an issue of supply and demand. If you want to raise the wages and opportunities for Americans, then you need to restrict the supply of labor. Restricted supply raises wages and increases opportunities for Americans.

    To be against this, then you have to argue that Americans must be poor and destitute to benefit foreigners.

    Go ahead and make that argument to the public.

    map

    August 2, 2017 at 7:53 pm

  17. What really needs to be removed is Executive Order 11625.

    map

    August 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm

  18. Walking back from the gym, passed a Mexican family walking north on 5th Ave in Sunset (Brooklyn). Ordinary-looking young guy, plump pleasant-looking wife, two little kids, the boy wearing a “Best Son in the World” T-shirt. At the gym — childless White women trying to stay sexy for as long as possible. I don’t know. Maybe Mexican immigration is good. Maybe it’s worth a drop in average IQ. Maybe IQ sufficient for loving wife/husband and kids and enjoying sunsets is all that matters. Right, there’s the problem of Who Maintains the Infrastructure. But the White staying-sexy-as-long-as-possible ladies at the gym certainly aren’t solving that problem.

    Garr

    August 2, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    • Huh? Hispanic women dont want to stay looking young and sexy? Plastic surgery is completely normalized in hispanic culture, just about every hispanic woman who can afford it goes back to the home country to get snipped after she has kids.

      DataExplorer

      August 3, 2017 at 3:59 am

      • I guess there are different kinds of “hispanic” women. I’m not sure that the Mexicans and other Central Americans in my neighborhood even call themselves “hispanic”. They’re probably not even aware that plastic surgery is a thing.

        Garr

        August 3, 2017 at 7:42 am

      • What neighborhood is that?

        DataExplorer

        August 3, 2017 at 9:14 am

    • Look at it this way with respect to the mestizos. It’s damaging to their souls to live in such a shallow, consumerist society as modern America. Sending them back would be to their great spiritual benefit. And we need to work out our own destiny on our own.

      Andrew E.

      August 3, 2017 at 9:15 am

  19. The pie-in-the-sky pro-immigrant types always go on about how wonderful diversity is, never once acknowledge that the extreme diversity drives people apart and brings about self-segregation. The definitive white Canada of my youth has substantially disappeared and what’s replaced it is a less friendly and less tolerant place. In Vancouver, the general trend is for individuals to socialize and mix with their own kind. The trendiest neighbourhoods in the city are seemingly successfully multi-cultural, but look beyond the surface and individuals of different ethnicities are simply unable to form meaningful relationship. The very white, rural and politically incorrect communities I lived in as a young person, were more open and welcoming to my Indian family.

    Roli

    August 2, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    • I was in Ottawa this month and it reminded me of a the West 30’s area of Manhattan. It has gotten really run down and overrun with Somalis. It was very depressing, frankly.

      SWPL2

      August 3, 2017 at 11:48 am

      • Perhaps you haven’t been to the west 30s in a while. Now it’s overrun with new construction and SWPLs.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 3, 2017 at 3:24 pm

  20. Meanwhile, thousands of Haitians are fleeing the US for Montreal. Apparently, Montrwal is a sanctuary city I wonder what our little puerto rican has to say about that. How about it JS, give us a report.

    destructure

    August 2, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    • Meanwhile, thousands of Haitians are fleeing the US for Montreal.

      Oh no, JS is going to have a heart attack.

      Wait till the rest of Francophone Africa shows up in Montreal over the next 50 years.

      They wont call any part of Montreal “little Haiti” or “little Africa” because it will be the majority.

      Rifleman

      August 3, 2017 at 4:27 am

  21. Meanwhile, thousands of Haitians are fleeing the US for Montreal. Apparently, Montrwal is a sanctuary city. I wonder what our little puerto rican has to say about that. How about it JS, give us a report.

    http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreals-big-o-used-to-shelter-haitian-refugees-flowing-from-u-s-to-canada

    destructure

    August 2, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    • Canada has made a huge mistake in terms of immigration policy. Toronto is lost. Ottawa will never be the same. And Montreal will start swirling in the toilet. Canadians absolutely believe their own propaganda. It’s maddening.

      Even worse, people overlook how expensive life in Canada can be. Even with healthcare and cheap universities, the people are saddled with enormous levels of debt. And the healthcare/education systems are already overburdened (a situation that the refugee problem is not going to improve).

      SWPL2

      August 3, 2017 at 11:52 am

  22. Merit based system sounds like could be a sensible solution. If you 1) are coming in the country with a company securing you a job already 2) bring enough cash assets (say 25K USD and above) 3) Can speak english, i don’t see the problem. Does the country really need refugees without assets coming here?

    But we all know that the alt-right doesn’t want that. They would rather admit lower educated and skilled whites than more qualified immigrants of other race if it were up to them. That’s why I think this bill should fail because their definition of merit will have lots of flexibility built in !!

    mpt

    August 3, 2017 at 2:29 am

    • True but that is the next battle. The rhetoric to pass this bill centers around America’s low-skilled workers and the working class. Then the rhetoric to pass the next bill that ratchets immigration down further will center around our middle class which doesn’t need the competition. And perhaps by then we’ll be able to are for immigration reform on the grounds of national identity rather than economics.

      Andrew E.

      August 3, 2017 at 9:18 am

      • Go from chain migration to skills based. Then require skills based immigrants to have company sponsorship like h1b’s with companies paying 50% more than the industry average to prove those skills were really needed and not just an attempt to get cheap workers and drive down wages.

        The only reason anyone could oppose that is if they have a racist agenda like La Raza or want cheap labor.

        destructure

        August 3, 2017 at 1:49 pm

  23. Nice appearance by Tom Cotton on Morning Joe this morning:

    IHTG

    August 3, 2017 at 9:26 am

  24. Hillary isn’t president. This bill is now on the floor. The overton window keeps moving in the correct direction. This is victory.

    Fags gonna fag

    August 3, 2017 at 9:28 am

  25. I’ve been surprised how little attention this bill has gotten. I realize the MSM isn’t necessarily eager to boost it, and there’s lot of other nonsense making news at the moment, but still, I thought it would be slightly more of a headline-maker, particularly given it’s tangible legislation and Trump has endorsed it (which we don’t see too often).

    I have to conclude that it completely lacks support, and is just a piece of “stunt legislation” like Cory Booker’s recent bill to legalize pot. I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but my instinctive feeling is that we’re not going to hear much more about this.

    Michael B.

    August 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm


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