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How can Harvard fight back?

Harvard can simply do away with financial aid and need-blind admissions. The law says that Harvard can’t discriminate based on race. There’s no law that says that, if you’re selling an expensive product, you have to give the product away to poor minorities who can’t afford it.

If every student was required to pay full price, that would keep out Asian strivers with foreign-born parents. As well as middle-class white kids.

At least it would be clear to everyone that Harvard is a school for the richest, and not a school for the smartest.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 3, 2017 at 11:54 am

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  1. Wouldn’t they get nailed on disparate impact? Keeping Harvard from becoming 40% Asian is easy to justify because the US doesn’t have that many Asian people.

    Richard

    August 3, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    • No. Read the first paragraph.

      Dsgntd_plyr

      August 3, 2017 at 5:05 pm

      • How can you not discriminate by race and also be in compliance with disparate impact?

        CamelCaseRob

        August 3, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    • harvard has as many jews as non-hispanic white goyim, which is grossly disparate. they aren’t nailed on that

      PoorGradStudent

      August 3, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      • Jews have higher genetic IQ, which is why there are over-represented.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 3, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      • Jews dominate academia (professors and their academic departments). This is the stark difference between Jews and let’s say White Catholic gentiles (the Irish and Italian types) who grew up prole like many Jews, but didn’t value intellectual curiosity. East Asians are who have a higher genetic IQ than the 2 latter groups, are even less intellectually curious.

        JS

        August 3, 2017 at 9:57 pm

      • There are definitely Asian college professors, but maybe their parents are too practical to let them get PhDs.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 3, 2017 at 10:38 pm

      • There are more guido and micky professors than there are Asian professors, and Asians are overrepresented at the top tier universities/colleges.

        I once took a class with an Italian American philosophy professor who spoke Chinese fluently. I remember him telling the class how he tried very hard to separate himself from some of his relatives who were reputed mobsters (Lion’s easy speak of avoiding proles). Now find me an Asian professor who teaches anything guido-related?

        JS

        August 3, 2017 at 10:51 pm

      • harvard has as many jews as non-hispanic white goyim, which is grossly disparate.

        That’s a common lie.

        Half of all Jewish American college students, like myself, have one gentile parent.

        Jews have higher genetic IQ, which is why there are over-represented.

        If intermarried Jews usually marry with the smartest gentiles then both half-Jews and full Jews are represented in about the proportion one would expect given white IQ distributions.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 10:02 pm

      • Neither Jews nor White Goyim are racial categories recognized by the Justice Department or the U.S. government, generally. Whites, blacks,p and Asians are.

        PV van den Byl

        August 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm

      • 2.8% of all white Americans are full Jews.

        5% of all white Americans are at least 1/4 Jewish, and I’d imagine half and quarter Jews make up a disproportionate percentage of the most intelligent white gentiles (if partial Jews are counted with other gentile whites).

        The top end of the white gentile IQ distribution is going to get more Jewish over time thanks to intermarriage. This means more white people with surnames like Cohen, Berg, etc, at top colleges who will be wrongly counted by anti-semites as fully Jewish.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 10:10 pm

      • Jewish ancestry will probably linger at the top end of society for quite a while. Former British PM David Cameron is 1/8 Jewish.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 10:11 pm

      • Except for Israeli ashkenazi who don’t have a genetically higher iq for some reason.

        And PoorGradStudent makes a great, very important point: which is that so much white over representation is really Jewish over representation and, as bad as punishing white jews and gentiles equally for that would be (since white gentiles are actually underrepresented, limiting their numbers for their supposed over representation is a travesty), generally only white gentiles end up getting discriminated against, because limiting Jewish representation in a given field is considered to be proto nazism. It’s this awful sleight of hand that gets played by jews against white christians.

        Magnavox

        August 3, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      • Israeli Jews are certainly smarter than Arabs.

        Only anti-Semites on the internet count Jews as something other than white.

        REAL Jews, the kind who have beards and dress in black and white, are underrepresented among the elites.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 3, 2017 at 10:40 pm

      • Only anti-Semites on the internet count Jews as something other than white.

        Harvard is more like 12-15% Jewish if you only count students who have two Jewish parents.

        The anti-semites like PoorGradStudent lie about the fact more or less a majority of Jewish college students are half-white gentile because nobody considers half-Jews to be non-white. Even Nazi Germany had difficulty coming up with a consistent policy to discriminate against Mischlings.

        And PoorGradStudent makes a great, very important point:

        Another “great point” by an antisemite that turns out to be a lie and which none of them have the balls to refute when it’s pointed they are lying.

        Go ahead and show where my reasoning went wrong, you pussies.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 3, 2017 at 10:55 pm

      • jewish supremacism as expressed above doesn’t win friends. the truth is the figures for jews at elite schools are not what is claimed. multiply by 1/2. elite schools are mostly in the north east. jews apply at higher rates. this explains whatever over-representation above that expected by IQ alone.

        is dr oz white? was omar sharif white? “white” and “caucasian” are sometimes used interchangeable and sometimes “white” is used to mean european. do saudis count as “asian”? do egyptians count as african?

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 4, 2017 at 1:00 am

      • I don’t like agreeing with maggot on anything but it’s a valid point and one I’ve made before. If jews are genetically smarter than gentiles then lumping them together transfers a lot of their affirmative action burden to gentiles. Your response was basically that jews are white and noticing that gentiles are getting the short end of the stick is “anti-semitic”. How convenient that the arrangement works to your advantage.

        I don’t blame you personally for it. But gentiles have every right to be dissatisfied when they’re continually accused of being over-represented and subjected to quotas for what is really jewish over-representation. Not that jews shouuld be subjected to quotas either. But it’s precisely those over-represented leftwing jews who are among the worst when it comes to lecturing whites about their “privilege”.

        The only people who really derive an advantage from being classified as white are jews, especially feminists like debbie wasserman schultz. Not only does she offload her affirmative action burden onto gentiles but she gets affirmative action for having a vaj. Then she tries to have it both ways by pushing both the leftwing sjw crap as well as jewish “heritage”. I’ll bet she’d be the first to protest against white gentiles trying to do anything. What a self-serving hypocrite she is.

        destructure

        August 4, 2017 at 9:28 am

      • If jews are genetically smarter than gentiles then lumping them together transfers a lot of their affirmative action burden to gentiles.

        That’s another lie since employment and college admissions don’t segregate Jews from other whites. Affirmative action discriminates against Jews about equally.

        Other admissions criteria at colleges like athletics and regional caps suppresses Jewish representation.

        There could still be some overrepresentation but it’s balanced out by factors that disfavor Jews.

        Your response was basically that jews are white and noticing that gentiles are getting the short end of the stick is “anti-semitic”.

        The overrepresentation number is half of what it actually is – you’re lying by counting half-Jews, who are at probably a majority of all Jewish college students, as Jewish.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 11:03 am

      • Then she tries to have it both ways by pushing both the leftwing sjw crap as well as jewish “heritage”.

        In practice her policies negatively effect Jews at least as much, probably more, than other whites since Jews tend to live near urban areas.

        This would also go nowhere if there weren’t elite gentiles pushing it – Blank Slatism was invented by WASPs like Lester Frank Ward, John Watson, and Franz Boas’ students.

        Boas has wrongly been identified as a radical environmentalist when he was in reality a moderate on the issue. His WASP students (who were largely WASP because of the old cap on Jews at the Ivy League) such as Kroeber, Meade, and Benedict were the ones who turned his centrist position into a 100% nurturist distortion of his original views.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 11:16 am

      • is dr oz white?

        Dr Oz is probably Greek.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 11:25 am

      • Dr. Oz is from Central Anatolia. He looks a bit like actor Andrew Garfield who’s Jewish with his bone structure. Turk like Ashkenazim!!!

        JS

        August 4, 2017 at 11:41 am

      • The admissions into elite universities are basically black boxes, why are you all pretending to know exactly how they work from everything to the formal rules down to the subconscious biases of the people that work there.

        TUJ: I don’t think you’ve ever made a coherent argument about anything, and saying that since the term Jewish is ambiguous therefore any argument that you don’t like that uses the term is fallacious (but that you and your allies can use it all you like) doesn’t represent any break with your past comments. All you do is bloviate and spam for your stupid blog.

        Magnavox

        August 4, 2017 at 3:21 pm

      • “That’s another lie since employment and college admissions don’t segregate Jews from other whites.”

        It’s not a lie. You don’t understand the argument. It’s the fact that admissions DON’T segregate jews from other whites that distributes the burden.

        “Other admissions criteria at colleges like athletics and regional caps suppresses Jewish representation.”

        Regional caps would still transfer the burden to other whites in the region.

        “The overrepresentation number is half of what it actually is – you’re lying by counting half-Jews”

        I never gave a figure or counted anyone. My argument is based solely on jews having a higher average IQ. That’s the primary factor in admissions. Unless you’re going to deny that you need to concede the argument.

        *
        You won’t find anyone on the altright getting defensive or making excuses for kennedy or mccain. They denounce them. Period.

        destructure

        August 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm

      • “That’s another lie since employment and college admissions don’t segregate Jews from other whites.”

        It’s not a lie. You don’t understand the argument. It’s the fact that admissions DON’T segregate jews from other whites that distributes the burden.

        “Other admissions criteria at colleges like athletics and regional caps suppresses Jewish representation.”

        Regional caps would still transfer the burden to other whites in the region.

        “The overrepresentation number is half of what it actually is – you’re lying by counting half-Jews”

        I never gave a figure or counted anyone. My argument is based solely on jews having a higher average IQ. That’s the primary factor in admissions. Unless you’re going to deny that you need to concede the argument.

        *
        You won’t find anyone on the altright getting defensive or making excuses for kennedy or mccain. They denounce them. Period.

        destructure

        August 4, 2017 at 3:24 pm

      • actually the two jewish parents thing is also false.

        6% of national merit scholars self-identify as jewish according to unz. it’s safe to presume that almost 100% of those with two jewish parents will identify as jewish. not 100%, but almost. it’s also safe to assume that some with only one jewish parent will also identify as jewish.

        the national merit scholarship is much more selective than any elite school, therefore…

        by IQ alone those with two jewish parents should be no more than 6% of the elite college student body.

        two reasons why they may be higher i have given above.

        and if all who could make aliyah are as claver as those who self-identify as jewish, then based on IQ alone one would expect no more than 15% of elite college students to have one or more jewish grandparents.

        this bitching about jews is another problem which disappears with 100% transparent, objective admissions.

        if jews were still so over-represented with such admissions they’d be resented less and admired more, but people like kushner wouldn’t have gotten in.

        the wise leader kim jong trump.

        August 4, 2017 at 6:58 pm

      • ” it’s safe to presume that almost 100% of those with two jewish parents will identify as jewish”

        Absolutely FALSE. If the question asks the applicant’s religion, and the applicant doesn’t believe in any religion, then he doesn’t check “Jewish”.

        Only anti-Semites on the internet consider Judaism a race, the rest of society considers it a religion.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2017 at 7:55 pm

      • the one thing which lion and tuj may not appreciate is that if jews actually were so much smarter that they occupied a position in the US like the chinese occupy in se asia or the lebanese in trinidad or lebanese in west africa or the alwalites in syria or indians in east africa or un-mixed europeans in latin america or whatever…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_on_Fire_%28book%29

        they would be resented, not because they are jews, but because they are a market and politics dominant minority. countries with such minorities are inevitably undemocratic.

        that is, if the jews were replaced by whatever group (tamil brahmins say) they’d be resented just as much. resentment of jews in the US has very little to do with the jews being jewish. so “anti-semites” and “anti-semitsm” is itself largely fake news.

        it’s really just anti-over-represented-minority-ism.

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm

      • Jews have blended into secular white gentile society and no one identifies them as Jewish except for anti-Semites on the internet.

        Jews are those people with beards and black hats. And they aren’t over-represented anywhere.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2017 at 7:56 pm

      • Lion I’ve spent my whole life around secular jews. Saying that there is no jewish identity outside of religion is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen you write.

        Magnavox

        August 4, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      • I didn’t say there’s no Jewish identity, but if given a choice between Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jewish, No Religion, a large chunk of “Jews” (as counted by anti-Semites) will pick No Religion.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2017 at 8:29 pm

      • you might be right. i don’t remember what the PSAT “identity” questions were. but…

        what do you think is the % of national merit scholars or just say % of SAT scores in the 99th percentile from those with at least one jewish grandparent?

        i would bet my house it’s 140 have one or more jewish grandparents.

        and they also must list their surname mr lion. not just race and religious affiliation if any. unz did surname analysis too. he would have corrected for mixed marriages. i hope. that is, within a very large population the frequency of “cohen” or some variant is sufficient. within smaller populations a combination of “cohen” and other typically ashkenazi names will give an almost perfect estimate. at least in the US where 99% of jews are ashkenazi.

        but this is math and probability theory and demographics. it’s complicated.

        again the issue can be resolved with transparency.

        sun light is the best disinfectant.

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 4, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      • sorry for the html bullshit.

        i would bet my house that < or = 15% of those who score in the 99th percentile on the SAT, or the old SAT, or LSAT, or GMAT, or whatever have one jewish grandparent or more.

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 4, 2017 at 8:33 pm

      • It’s the fact that admissions DON’T segregate jews from other whites that distributes the burden.

        You’re still not addressing the fact only 10-15% of the Ivy Leagues are Jews with full Jewish parents…

        As for a “burden”, there is no burden on gentiles because the competition in Ivy League admissions is everyone for themselves and there is no preference for Jews: If Harvard has only one spot left for a white applicant, and a white gentile with a 150 IQ is competing with a Jew with a 150 IQ and both candidates have roughly equal credentials, they are both 50-50 odds to get into Harvard. The Jewish candidate is also competing against thousands of other Jewish candidates, so in that sense the Jewish candidate is suffering an equal “burden” with the gentile competing with other Jews.

        There is only a burden if a Jew is favored for being Jewish over white gentile.

        You can argue about the distribution, but higher Jewish IQ distribution is offset by the absolute number of white gentiles, 194 million white gentiles compared to about 5.8 million Jews.

        The sheer number of white gentiles means there are enough very intelligent white gentiles to be serious competition vs Jewish applicants. For every white gentile who gets shut out of an elite school by a Jewish applicant there are more Jews who miss their ideal elite school because of competition from a high IQ gentile.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:18 pm

      • unz did surname analysis too. he would have corrected for mixed marriages.

        Unz did not correct for mixed gentile-Jewish marriages.

        Therefore Unz is also a liar.

        http://www.hillel.org/about/news-views/news-views—blog/news-and-views/2004/01/21/jewish-students-involved-connections-vary

        That is one conclusion from National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 data released by the United Jewish Communities (UJC), the survey’s sponsor, at the recent Hillel international professional staff conference. Addressing the Hillel Conference in Princeton, NJ, NJPS Project Manager Lorraine Blass and NJPS Research Director Laurence Kotler-Berkowitz estimated that there were 268,300 Jews age 18-24, and 91,300 Jews age 25-29 on campuses in 2000-01, for a total campus Jewish population of 359,600. An estimated 232,600 Jews age 18-24 were not on campus, some of whom were still in high school and a majority of whom reported that they were working full or part time. NJPS was conducted from August 2000 through August 2001 and included interviews with 217 Jews, ages 18-29, who were in college at the time of the survey. UJC’s PowerPoint presentation on Jewish college students is available at ujc.org and hillel.org.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:19 pm

      • http://www.hillel.org/about/news-views/news-views—blog/news-and-views/2004/01/21/jewish-students-involved-connections-vary

        snip

        The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      • Regional caps would still transfer the burden to other whites in the region.

        But it advantages gentile whites more as a whole because Jews are concentrated in particular areas of the country compared to gentiles.

        Athletics favor white gentiles heavily in any region of the country.

        In Europe college admission is almost entirely test based. While it is true test scores are the single most important factor in American admissions, other non-IQ related factors (even when only considering white applicants) also heavily influence decisions.

        You won’t find anyone on the altright getting defensive or making excuses for kennedy or mccain. They denounce them. Period.

        They do nothing except excuse elite white gentiles, usually they by omission. That’s the entire point of focussing only on Jewish Liberalism but rarely addressing other white ethnic groups.

        Show me an altright blog where Slavic participation in the Russian Revolution – who contrary to lies saying otherwise, were the clear majority of the Revolutionary leadership – is obsessed over to the same degree as Jewish participation.

        They never discuss the ethnic backgrounds of any other Liberal group except Jews because they want to cover up the role of gentile Liberals.

        There is no altright website that discusses the fact the French invented both Communism and Progressivism, no discussion of how Scandinavians pushed much of the “human rights” laws and treaties that prevent EU member states from enforcing their own immigration laws, that Scandinavians pioneered transgenderism, or that WASP heavy Progressive leadership from the early 20th century were Communist sympathizers.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:33 pm

      • ” it’s safe to presume that almost 100% of those with two jewish parents will identify as jewish”

        False.

        See the Hillel survey.

        And I know from personal experience one half-Jew who identified as an Evangelical Christian and another half-Jew accounting major who identified as Irish.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      • All of the half Jews I know from Staten Island are heavily into Catholicism.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2017 at 10:25 pm

      • If the absolute number of highly intelligent white gentile applicants is equal to the number of similarly intelligent Jewish applicants, then it is Jews who are disadvantaged by being included as whites because Jews have more gentile applicants to compete against.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:48 pm

      • If the absolute number of highly intelligent white gentile applicants is greater than the absolute number of similarly intelligent Jewish applicants, then it is Jews who are disadvantaged (dispute the distribution advantage) by being included as whites because Jews have more gentile applicants to compete against.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:50 pm

      • If the absolute number of highly intelligent white gentile applicants is greater than the absolute number of similarly intelligent Jewish applicants, then it is Jews who are disadvantaged (despite the distribution advantage) by being included as whites because Jews have more gentile applicants to compete against.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 4, 2017 at 9:51 pm

      • i haven’t seen figures for ashkenazi jews in israel. what i have seen for israel as a whole suggests that “pure” ashkenazis in israel do score significantly less than 115.

        i have seen figures for ashkenazi children living on kibbutzes. i’ve seen 130 and 120 something for ashkenazis and non-ashkenazis respectively. these were from a study comparing ashkenazi and non children. hard to believe, or kibbutzniks are a very select population. the norms may have been old.

        the wise leader kim jong trumo

        August 4, 2017 at 10:32 pm

      • it should also be said that to the extent that the smartness of what tuj has called “mischling” is due to their gentile genes too. when jews marry gentiles, they marry smart gentiles.

        the wise leader kim jong trumo

        August 4, 2017 at 10:55 pm

      • it should also be said that lion may take the length of this thread and the mention of “jews this” and “jews that” as anti-semitsm.

        but as long as jews are over-represented among the american elite, to the extent that they are at present, people will be interested. this interest has absolutely nothing to do with jews qua jews. if american jews were andaman pygmies or quakers, there’d still be this interest.

        bushing off this interest with, “because jews are genetically superior.”

        this is not a winning strategery.

      • Complaining about Jews is the same as blacks complaining that the whites are keeping them down.

        And no one is that interested, because Jews are just considered whites, and everyone already knows that whites are at the top of the pyramid.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 4, 2017 at 11:52 pm

      • Enough about jews, jesus you guys

        driveallnight

        August 4, 2017 at 11:39 pm

      • Complaining about Jews is the same as blacks complaining that the whites are keeping them down.

        Except there are countries with just white christians and no jews that are super pleasant. In fact they consistently rank as the most pleasant. The same can’t be said for black countries without whites. So in no way is what you said a valid comparison.

        The fact is you see non jewish “anti semites” talking about jewish attitudes towards gentile whites based on educated guesses from their behavior and it matches up perfectly with what, as someone from a jewish background what I hear jews say in front of me and to me all the time. White gentiles should resent jews and shouldn’t allow them to have the control and influence in the US that they do.

        Magnavox

        August 5, 2017 at 12:05 am

      • Jews don’t have the influence that anti-Semites imagine they do. Among the most liberal countries in the world are Norway and Sweden, I assume are those places you talk about without any Jews. Jews don’t make a country liberal.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 5, 2017 at 9:04 am

      • One striking phenomenon that I’ve witnessed among Jews that differs from White gentiles, particularly their prole neighbors, the Irish-Italian Catholic types, is that Jewish businesses tend to create job opportunities for racial minorities and the latter 2 groups do not. Many semi-successful Jewish businesses employ blacks, mulatto Hispanics and even Asian immigrants, which gives their businesses a rude vibe. I’ve never met any Irish and Italian businessmen who does the same. Jews are not tribal in this regard, but they are in other ways.

        JS

        August 5, 2017 at 1:09 pm

      • “You’re still not addressing the fact only 10-15% of the Ivy Leagues are Jews with full Jewish parents…”

        Why would I address it? I have no idea whether it’s a “fact” or not. And my argument has nothing to do with headcounts.

        “If the absolute number of highly intelligent white gentile applicants is greater than the absolute number of similarly intelligent Jewish applicants, then it is Jews who are disadvantaged (despite the distribution advantage) by being included as whites because Jews have more gentile applicants to compete against.”

        That would only be true if jews and gentiles had the same average. When two groups have different averages those differences tend to become exaggerated at the extremes. That’s why one can’t just say jews are over represented because there are more jews at Harvard than their proportion of the population. That’s also why my argument relies on reason rather than headcounts.

        “There is only a burden if a Jew is favored for being Jewish over white gentile.”

        Not true. For ease of illustration, I’ll make assumptions (such as equal size, double the number of high IQ, etc) to simplify the explanation.

        Suppose you have three populations of equal size: X, Y and Z. now suppose you have a quota system that gives each group an equal number of slots. Each group would get 1/3 of the slots.

        Now, suppose the three groups do not have an equal number at the highest IQ. X has twice as many as Y who has twice as many as Z.

        Now, suppose you combine X & Y but keep Z separate. Z would still get 1/3 of the slots. But X & Y would share the remaining 2/3 of the slots. Since X has twice as many at the highest IQ as Y, it would get 2/3 of the X/Y slots (or 4/9 of the total slots). Y on the other hand would only get 1/3 of the X/Y slots (or 2/9 of the total slots). Both lose slots under affirmative action. But combining X & Y shifts some of X’s affirmative action burden to Y.

        PS: I’m not even reading most of the crap comments. The only point I’m interested in is the one I’m making.

        destructure

        August 5, 2017 at 3:52 pm

      • Why would I address it? I have no idea whether it’s a “fact” or not. And my argument has nothing to do with headcounts.

        You must address the effect of Jewish very high levels of intermarriage (which you, despite pretending otherwise, know perfectly well is a heavily researched fact*) instead of dodging it because you’re a disingenuous shit and liar because college applicants from intermarried populations should have capabilities intermediate between the two parents. Thus creating a fourth category in your XYZ example. If you don’t treat it as a fourth population with a different hybridized average then you can’t determine whether X is more of a burden on Y or vice versa.

        It would be especially dishonest if you included the hybrid applicants with either X or Y when the hybrid category has a different mean from both X or Y.

        When two groups have different averages those differences tend to become exaggerated at the extremes.

        The range of Ivy League IQs isn’t extreme. Most white and Jewish students at HYP have standardized test scores consistent with IQs between 140 and 160.

        The IQ standard deviation of white gentiles (as well as Northeast Asians) is 16.7 according to Murray. I recall him writing in the Wall Street Journal that Jews have a standard deviation of 13, although I can’t find the article and it may contradict something else he wrote where Jews were tested to have a standard deviation of 15 or 16.

        Let’s assume Jews have a standard deviation of 16.7, a mean of 110 and white gentiles have an IQ average of 100.

        In that case there are still more white gentiles with IQs between 140 and 160 trying to get into the Ivy Leagues because there are over 30 white gentiles for every Jew. The sheer size of the white gentile population means there are broadly more white gentiles competing with equally intelligent Jews.

        Only if you go over 160 IQ might there be more Jews than gentiles, but only a small minority of elite students have IQs at that extreme level (though it would still be uncertain since the tails become fat at very rare levels).

        IQs of 150, while rare, are not unheard of or extreme for white gentiles – about 1 in every 750 white gentiles have IQs of 150.

        The vast majority of elite university admissions occurs between applicants with relatively more common IQs ranging between 140 and 160.

        X has twice as many as Y who has twice as many as Z.

        Now, suppose you combine X & Y but keep Z separate. Z would still get 1/3 of the slots. But X & Y would share the remaining 2/3 of the slots. Since X has twice as many at the highest IQ as Y, it would get 2/3 of the X/Y slots (or 4/9 of the total slots). Y on the other hand would only get 1/3 of the X/Y slots (or 2/9 of the total slots). Both lose slots under affirmative action. But combining X & Y shifts some of X’s affirmative action burden to Y.

        Except there are more white gentiles with IQs between 140 and 160 (the standard IQ range for whites at Ivy League schools) than Jews, therefore white gentiles are more like “X” (X has twice as many at the highest IQ as Y) and Jews are “Y” in your example and so it is gentiles who are “disadvantaging” Jews in college admissions.

        * http://www.hillel.org/about/news-views/news-views—blog/news-and-views/2004/01/21/jewish-students-involved-connections-vary

        That is one conclusion from National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 data released by the United Jewish Communities (UJC), the survey’s sponsor, at the recent Hillel international professional staff conference. Addressing the Hillel Conference in Princeton, NJ, NJPS Project Manager Lorraine Blass and NJPS Research Director Laurence Kotler-Berkowitz estimated that there were 268,300 Jews age 18-24, and 91,300 Jews age 25-29 on campuses in 2000-01, for a total campus Jewish population of 359,600. An estimated 232,600 Jews age 18-24 were not on campus, some of whom were still in high school and a majority of whom reported that they were working full or part time. NJPS was conducted from August 2000 through August 2001 and included interviews with 217 Jews, ages 18-29, who were in college at the time of the survey. UJC’s PowerPoint presentation on Jewish college students is available at ujc.org and hillel.org.

        snip

        The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 5, 2017 at 6:47 pm

      • I’m not even reading most of the crap comments. The only point I’m interested in is the one I’m making.

        You also made the point the altright is not singling out Jews but didn’t address my question which altright blog obsessively tracks Slavic participation in the Russian Revolution.

        Point out one that does that.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 5, 2017 at 6:49 pm

      • Again, you graduate from Harvard so you can value transference for $$$. The most successful groups in America do not become wealthy by grinding, but by value transference.

        Before there was Wall St, there were merchants:

        Successful non-Jewish groups like the Armenians and Lebanese in America do not grind like East Asians. And Jews have a tradition as merchants.

        JS

        August 5, 2017 at 6:54 pm

      • “You must address the effect of Jewish very high levels of intermarriage (which you, despite pretending otherwise, know perfectly well is a heavily researched fact*)”

        It may very well be. But that would merely produce a clinal effect between jews and gentiles. As long as jews have a higher average than gentiles, the affirmative action burden is still being shifted to gentiles.

        “You also made the point the altright is not singling out Jews but “

        No. I made the opposite point that altright don’t make excuses for people like kennedy and mccain.

        destructure

        August 5, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      • ‘Jewish businesses tend to create job opportunities for racial minorities and the latter 2 groups do not.’

        Because it makes business sense for the Jews, obviously. I hope you don’t think that Jews do it to lose money?

        Yakov

        August 5, 2017 at 10:04 pm

      • ‘White gentiles should resent jews and shouldn’t allow them to have the control and influence in the US that they do.’

        ‘Should’ in a sense of any majority resenting a successful minority, as is human nature everywhere. However, this isn’t what you are talking about. You keep talking about the boogie man of Jewish ‘control’ without offering any empirical evidence. That’s classic anti-semitism. Come up with data or something new. But you won’t, because you can’t.

        White countries can certainly be pleasant without Jews. Jews aren’t about creating ambiance, which I wish they were as well. They advance the society in different ways. I think it’s legitimate for a nation not to want to have any Jews or blacks, what’s not legitimate is fake ‘control’ theories to justify it.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 12:45 am

      • One striking phenomenon that I’ve witnessed among Jews that differs from White gentiles, particularly their prole neighbors, the Irish-Italian Catholic types, is that Jewish businesses tend to create job opportunities for racial minorities and the latter 2 groups do not. Many semi-successful Jewish businesses employ blacks, mulatto Hispanics and even Asian immigrants, which gives their businesses a rude vibe. I’ve never met any Irish and Italian businessmen who does the same. Jews are not tribal in this regard, but they are in other ways.

        Magnavox

        August 6, 2017 at 2:50 am

      • But that would merely produce a clinal effect between jews and gentiles. As long as jews have a higher average than gentiles, the affirmative action burden is still being shifted to gentiles.

        But commenters aren’t mentioning intermarriage is producing a clinal effect. They are dishonestly categorizing part Jews with full Jews, and therefore making their whole analysis faulty.

        You said the absolute number of Jews and absolute number of gentiles at a certain intelligence level is what determines the burden, NOT the average:

        You:

        Now, suppose the three groups do not have an equal number at the highest IQ. X has twice as many as Y who has twice as many as Z.

        Now, suppose you combine X & Y but keep Z separate. Z would still get 1/3 of the slots. But X & Y would share the remaining 2/3 of the slots. Since X has twice as many at the highest IQ as Y, it would get 2/3 of the X/Y slots (or 4/9 of the total slots). Y on the other hand would only get 1/3 of the X/Y slots (or 2/9 of the total slots). Both lose slots under affirmative action. But combining X & Y shifts some of X’s affirmative action burden to Y.

        Since I showed there are more gentiles at the 140 to 160 IQ level then based on your own comment you must agree Jews are the one’s burdened by being counted as white by college admissions.

        I made the opposite point that altright don’t make excuses for people like kennedy and mccain.

        That’s also a lie.

        When they mention Kennedy and McCain they almost always suggest that they supported the policies they did because Jews were manipulating them behind the background. They never say the truth which is that they both freely chose to embrace Liberalism because the altright doesn’t want gentiles actually held accountable for their actions as willful agents.

        And that’s if they mention gentile Liberalis.

        Usually they prefer not to mention gentile Liberals at all as a way to coverup/excuse the role Liberal gentiles have played.

        If they weren’t excusing gentiles then they would mention facts such as the numerous Slavic leaders of the Russia Revolution. In practice, there’s almost no website that obsessively counts Slavic Revolutionaries like Shliapnakov or Kropotkin.

        Ommiting facts like this proves you’re lying when you say the altright holds gentiles to account for their actions. The point of obsessing about Jews is to excuse gentiles from responsibility while hypocritically only focussing on Jewish ethnicity when gentile ethnicities are more to blame.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 6, 2017 at 12:06 pm

      • It’s good for the Jews to engage with anti-semites. America has treated the us so well that without the likes of Magna many of us would grow complacent.

        Their arguments aren’t even well thought out. Most of their comments about Jews and Israel amount to a large waste of time that drags down discussion quality.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 6, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      • That’s true, but I still don’t like censorship.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      • “But commenters aren’t mentioning intermarriage is producing a clinal effect.”

        If you say so. I mostly haven’t read the comments except for yours. All I can say is that I’m not responsible for others comments. And it doesn’t refute my argument.

        “You said the absolute number of Jews and absolute number of gentiles at a certain intelligence level is what determines the burden, NOT the average:”

        C’mon guy. I prefaced my explanation with “For ease of illustration, I’ll make assumptions (such as equal size, double the number of high IQ, etc) to simplify the explanation.”

        “then based on your own comment you must agree”

        See my last response where I said it was merely illustrating the concept.

        “When they mention Kennedy and McCain they almost always suggest that they supported the policies they did because Jews were manipulating them”

        I don’t think so. But I’m not going to argue it with you. If you want to address my affirmative action argument then do so. But my argument is rock solid. At this point you’re basically arguing against simple arithmetic.

        destructure

        August 6, 2017 at 6:53 pm

      • And it doesn’t refute my argument.

        Of course it weakens it.

        If half of the Jews at Ivy League colleges belong in a third, hybrid category and the percentage of white gentiles remains the same then the ratio of Jews to white gentiles tilts further against Jews.

        See my last response where I said it was merely illustrating the concept.

        I’m applying your concept to the actual populations and your concept shows Jews are disadvantaged because there are more white gentiles in typical IQ ranges for Ivy League students than Jews (140 to 160).

        Unless you can demonstrate there are more Jews in that IQ range (can you???) than gentiles, Jews are being disadvantaged – in your example X > Y. The problem for you is that white gentiles with IQs between 140 and 160 is > Jews in the same IQ range:

        Since X has twice as many at the highest IQ as Y, it would get 2/3 of the X/Y slots (or 4/9 of the total slots). Y on the other hand would only get 1/3 of the X/Y slots (or 2/9 of the total slots). Both lose slots under affirmative action. But combining X & Y shifts some of X’s affirmative action burden to Y.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

      • At this point you’re basically arguing against simple arithmetic.

        You’re arguing against the actual number of intelligent gentiles and Jews with imaginary populations where Jews in that IQ range outnumber gentiles, which is factually false.

        IF your imaginary population existed and there were more college age Jews with IQs between 140 and 160 than college age gentiles in that range, THEN you would be correct to say the burden is borne by gentiles.

        But the reality is the reverse, therefore so is where the burden falls.

        Or, to put this another way:

        Do you agree there are numerically more white gentiles with IQs between 140 and 160 than Jews?

        Yes or no?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 6, 2017 at 9:14 pm

      • “Do you agree there are numerically more white gentiles with IQs between 140 and 160 than Jews?”

        Yes.

        “You’re arguing against the actual number of intelligent gentiles and Jews with imaginary populations where Jews in that IQ range outnumber gentiles, which is factually false.”

        No.

        The only reason my XYZ example used groups of equal size and doubled the numbers of smart people was to have nice round numbers that make it easier to see the shift. Instead I’ve confused you on what’s causing the shift.

        The shift is NOT based on there being numerically more smart jews than smart gentiles. That’s both false and irrelevant. The shift is based solely on the percentage of each group that is smart. If the percentage of jews that is smart is higher than the percentage of gentiles that is smart then the burden is shifted to gentiles.

        Let’s adjust the numbers from the XYZ example to show that it doesn’t matter.
        ***********

        Suppose you have three populations: X=3% Y=50% and Z=13%. Now suppose you have a quota system that gives each group a number of slots proportional to its percentage of the population.

        Now, suppose the three groups do not have an equal number at the highest IQ. X has 20, Y has 200 and Z has 5 competing for only 100 slots

        Now, suppose you combine X & Y but keep Z separate. Z would still get 13 slots. But X & Y would share the 53 slots allotted to X/Y. We’ll assume X&Y have an equal chance (220/53=.24) of getting an X/Y slot. Since X has 20 at the highest IQ, it would get (20*.24=5) 5/53 of the X/Y slots (or 5% of the total slots). Y on the other hand would only get (200*.24=48) 48/53 of the X/Y slots (or 48% of the total slots). Both lose slots under affirmative action. But combining X & Y shifts some of X’s affirmative action burden to Y. Had X&Y been considered separately their individuals quotas would have been 3 and 50. Instead they got 5 and 48.

        destructure

        August 7, 2017 at 4:59 am

      • Suppose you have three populations: X=3% Y=50% and Z=13%. Now suppose you have a quota system that gives each group a number of slots proportional to its percentage of the population.

        Now, suppose the three groups do not have an equal number at the highest IQ. X has 20, Y has 200 and Z has 5 competing for only 100 slots

        That only covers 66% of the 100 available slots.

        You aren’t factoring in the Asian cap which, applying it to your example, would benefit white gentiles by creating more Ivy League placements for whites by limiting Asians to about ~15%.

        Otherwise the Ivys would be ~40% Asian.

        Beyond your example and looking at the actual situation with Ivy League placements it still isn’t clear white gentiles are bearing a burden.

        If race was not considered at all by admissions the Ivy’s would be about ~60 white and Jewish, ~40 Asian, and a handful of percentage points of “other” categories.

        Arguably the Asian cap benefits white gentiles more than the black & Hispanic AA slots hurt white gentiles. Asian caps combined with regional caps plus athletic preferences that usually benefit whites over Jews probably leaves white gentiles slightly better off than they would be with no AA or athletic permissions at all.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 7, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      • tuj — you lack the grace to concede.

        destructure

        August 7, 2017 at 11:11 pm

      • tuj — you lack the grace to concede.

        You lack the talent to do anything except troll.

        Your example has insufficient evidence to prove whether X or Y is bearing which burden because it doesn’t factor in the greater advantage gentiles gain from having Asians capped, regardless of whether Jews are grouped with whites.

        If you aren’t capturing the full relationship (you only describe how 66 out of 100 seats are awarded) then your example is deceptive because it doesn’t indicate if there are offsetting relationships with the applicants for the other 34 seats. Not an unusual trait for you.

        You have XYZ, let’s say we add A to the original example.

        Suppose A is capped at 15 seats of 100 seats and has an applicant pool = 150.

        The results between XYZ remains the same as you described with the addition of A.

        Now suppose the cap on A is raised by 30 seats and the cap on X/Y is reduced by 15 to 38.

        The odds of either X or Y being admitted with a relaxed cap on A drops from 0.24 to 0.17 (38/220).

        The odds of X or Y being admitted (rounded up) are –

        X = 4 (20 * 0.17)

        Y = 35 (220 * 0.17)

        In the original example affirmative action for Z resulted in 5 seats for X and 48 seats for Y.

        In the absence of grouping the two together, but keeping affirmative action for Z, X = 3 seats and Y = 50 seats.

        In the new example where the cap for A is doubled to 30 and the cap for X/Y drops to 38, Y loses 13 seats if X is grouped with Y, or 15 seats if Y or X are broken into different categories.

        Meanwhile X loses 1 seat if it is grouped with Y for a total of 4.

        The biggest seat gainer for capping A is Y because it has a greater number of applicants with the requisite credentials.

        Therefore your example is inconclusive because not all of the burden relationships are reflected.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 8, 2017 at 12:47 am

      • “The biggest seat gainer for capping A is Y because it has a greater number of applicants with the requisite credentials.”

        I’m not sure Asians are “capped”. The most recent thorough study on the issue would be Espanshade and Radford’s. And it doesn’t support the claim.

        But, for the sake of argument, let’s say they are. In that case, gentiles might be the largest beneficiary in absolute numbers because they’re the majority of the X/Y cohort. But the white benefit of an asian quota would still be shifted to jews for the same reason the white burden of a black quota would be shifted to gentiles. In both cases, jews would benefit at the expense of gentiles.

        Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

        destructure

        August 8, 2017 at 8:26 am

      • I’m not sure Asians are “capped”.

        Don’t play stupid by clinging to one outlier study, you no talent prick.

        I, Lion, the DoJ which is looking into affirmative action, and the vast majority of research are sure colleges do suppress Asian numbers with quotas. Even admissions offices don’t exactly make a secret of it. The vast majority of research into SAT scores says there is discrimination against qualified Asians.

        In that case, gentiles might be the largest beneficiary in absolute numbers because they’re the majority of the X/Y cohort.

        Therefore the Asian quota benefits whites more than Jews benefit from black Affirmative action.

        But the white benefit of an asian quota would still be shifted to jews for the same reason the white burden of a black quota would be shifted to gentiles. In both cases, jews would benefit at the expense of gentiles.

        Jews aren’t being grouped that simplistically with whites in actual college admissions because there are other important admissions criteria that benefit gentiles over Jews such as regional quotas and athletic competition.

        Regional quotas and athletics means the real relationship between Jews and white gentiles isn’t being reflected by the X/Y example you gave. The relationship could quite possibly be acting more like the example where X and Y and separated.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 8, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    • It is interesting how dishonest TUJ and Lion are being. So you can’t state the obvious about Jewish over representation without being called an AntiSemite?

      Can we also not talk about how blacks over represent basketball players?

      By the way, most Jews I know may not see themselves as religious Jews. But almost all of them see themselves as ethnic Jews.

      Anonymous

      August 5, 2017 at 12:19 am

      • Once upon a time, Jews weren’t allowed to join the elite law firms, so they made their own law firms, and then the Jewish law firms became superior to the old WASP law firms because the Jews were better lawyers.

        Judaism is a religion. Ashkenazi is a white European ethnicity like being Polish or German. Most people, even Jews, confuse the two because they aren’t obsessed with the race and ethnicity stuff like anti semites are. Just as there is Polish food and German food, there is Ashkenazi food, but Ashkenazi food (which is just a mix of German, Polish and Russian food) sucks compared to Italian or French food or Spanish food.

        Ashkenazi will soon disappear as a distinct ethnicity because of intermarriage and extreme disinterest among secular Millennial Ashekanzi in maintaining ties to their ethnicity. The only Jews left will be the guys with beards and hats (or wigs if they are women).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 5, 2017 at 9:08 am

      • So you can’t state the obvious about Jewish over representation without being called an AntiSemite?

        You’re not paying attention.

        The issue is who is being counted as Jewish – the figures saying the Ivy Leagues are 20-30% Jewish count half-Jews as fully Jewish. The actual proportion of Jews at the Ivy Leagues is therefore 10-15%.

        http://www.hillel.org/about/news-views/news-views—blog/news-and-views/2004/01/21/jewish-students-involved-connections-vary

        That is one conclusion from National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 data released by the United Jewish Communities (UJC), the survey’s sponsor, at the recent Hillel international professional staff conference. Addressing the Hillel Conference in Princeton, NJ, NJPS Project Manager Lorraine Blass and NJPS Research Director Laurence Kotler-Berkowitz estimated that there were 268,300 Jews age 18-24, and 91,300 Jews age 25-29 on campuses in 2000-01, for a total campus Jewish population of 359,600. An estimated 232,600 Jews age 18-24 were not on campus, some of whom were still in high school and a majority of whom reported that they were working full or part time. NJPS was conducted from August 2000 through August 2001 and included interviews with 217 Jews, ages 18-29, who were in college at the time of the survey. UJC’s PowerPoint presentation on Jewish college students is available at ujc.org and hillel.org.

        snip

        The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 5, 2017 at 1:15 pm

      • ‘Judaism is a religion. Ashkenazi is a white European ethnicity like being Polish or German.’

        Wrong! Jews are a quintessential and the strongest nation in earth.

        אתה אחד ושמך אחד ומי כעמך ישראל גוי אחד בארץ.

        ‘You are one and your name is and who can be likened to Isreal your nation, a unique nation on earth.’ (Sabbath afternoon prayer in my own translation).

        The books of Genesis and Exodus tell the story of our coming into being as a nation. This is very simple.

        The Jews are neither White, Black or Asian. They are unique and should have their own box to check – Jewish.

        Yakov

        August 5, 2017 at 9:14 pm

      • Sorry, missed a word.
        You are one and your name is one and who can be likened to Isreal your nation, a unique nation on earth.’

        Yakov

        August 5, 2017 at 10:00 pm

      • ‘So you can’t state the obvious about Jewish over representation without being called an AntiSemite?’

        There is no problem in stating the obvious. What’s anti-semitic is attributing it to sinister manipulation of the admissions process rather then to the superior ability of the Jews. This is very simple.

        Yakov

        August 5, 2017 at 10:18 pm

      • You don’t even have to bother with reality and the outside world. Your jewish commentors ought to be enough to show you how misguided you are. TUJ the secular half jew who still calls himself a jew, Yakov, the uber chauvinist jew. The comments are full of secular jew and half jews (and maybe even quarter jews) who won’t shut up about being jewish.

        Magnavox

        August 6, 2017 at 2:43 am

      • I see some people valiantly responding to anti-Semites. I really should just delete any comment that mentions Jews or Israel.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 10:14 am

      • And Lion I’ve read numerous comments from you where you support and endorse the fear that jews have of another genocide committed against them by white christians, which is the singular source of the rank bigotry that makes jews so unqualified for positions of influence in this country.

        Magnavox

        August 6, 2017 at 3:12 am

      • No I don’t support or endorse it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 10:15 am

      • Magna, for every half-Jew, who identify with being Jewish, you are going to have a few that don’t and completely assimilate. Some become the most vile and virulent anti-semites as you should be realizing by now. I understand that Jews are a complex subject, but you totally fail to comprehend it. Why? I think it’s your ant-semetism that blinds you.

        Talmud states that heretics are stupid and gives examples of their stupidity. I remember telling my teacher that there are many intelligent and accomplished heretics, so how are we to understand these words of the sages? He explained that the Talmud means it in the context of interpreting Judaism and that all the examples of their stupidity are only in that context. This is very true and Lion is a perfect example of that. ‘Judaism is chanting in a language I don’t understand and eating the horrible gefilte fish! Abraham and Moses never existed, there was no Exodus, Jews are not a nation etc.’

        I think the same can be said about anti-semites when it comes to their understanding of the Jews and you are a prime example of that.

        Jews, like any other nation, are not above healthy constructive criticism, which is good for the Jews and everyone else, but that’s not what you are engaged in. It’s fine for a nation not to want any Jewish population, it’s not fine to use Protocols of the Elders of Zion and blood libel as the justification.

        I think you are hopeless though. You will live and die in the darkness.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 11:11 am

      • ‘which is the singular source of the rank bigotry that makes jews so unqualified for positions of influence in this country.’

        Nothing makes Jews unqualified for these positions. When in power, Jews, as a rule, act in the interests of the countries that they inhabit. In fact, they are less not more likely to advance Jewish interests for fear of being accused of dual loyalties. It’s for this reason that Gentiles politicians can be better for the Jews.

        For example, Bruno Kreisky was an example of a Jewish anti-semite, who considered the idea that Jews are a nation and not just a religion tantamount to Nazism. He referred to Menacham Begin as terrorist, but had excellent relations with Nasser. But as the wonders of HBD would have it, his brother fought under Begin and lived in Jerusalem working for the city’s sanitation department.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 11:42 am

      • I really should just delete any comment that mentions Jews or Israel.

        You should just ban Magnavox completely instead of wasting your time sorting through which of his nonsense comments to wave through.

        Especially if he’s going to misrepresent what you’ve said, call you stupid on numerous occasions, and lie about Jewish commenters obsessing about Judaism when in fact we’re simply responding to antisemites.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 6, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      • The only prejudice I’ve seen on this blog recently has been against Italians after the Scaramucci incident. And no one seemed to have much of a problem with it.

        destructure

        August 6, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      • I don’t think that Magna should be banned. It’s good for the Jews to engage with anti-semites. America has treated the us so well that without the likes of Magna many of us would grow complacent. I agree with Lion keeping Magna and JS on board.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 1:58 pm

  2. Isn’t Harvard a charitable organisation/non-profit? If it simply sold an expensive product wouldn’t it have to pay corporate income taxes on its commercial activities plus the investment gains on its endowment?

    Dave

    August 3, 2017 at 12:13 pm

  3. If Harvard sold to the highest bidder, they’d still probably become majority Asian, before Asians figured out a Harvard had lost its cachet.

    Dubious

    August 3, 2017 at 12:23 pm

  4. That’s true. But it would cause cognitive meltdown among the SJWs at Harvard. In any case, the bulk of discrimination at Harvard is against flyover country whites, the Deplorables that they keep out at any cost. A truly fair admissions policy would probably end up with way more red state white gentiles getting into Harvard because the pool is huge, assuming they could be convinced that applying would even be worth the trouble.

    No one wants to say it, but openly presenting yourself as a conservative on your application — or doing it by proxy, like ROTC member or 4H member or Eagle Scout — probably results in a 100% rejection rate, with the exception of a few token or legacy admits.

    peterike

    August 3, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    • Fair admissions would also bring in more prole Jews.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 3, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      • especially if prole jews express sympathy for…israel.

        but if jews were represented among elite college students by their IQ scores alone…a fictional universe…the more extreme “anti-semites” would have to eat their hats. but a lot of jews would have to eat theirs too. that is, jews would still be over-represented but not by as much…as is claimed by anti-semites.

        transparency and objectivity would turn a lot of jew haters. opaqueness and subjectivity feeds them.

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 3, 2017 at 5:09 pm

  5. The wealthy will find other venues to educate their heirs and differentiate themselves from the rest of humanity. In a post scarcity world, Harvard is just an average school.

    JS

    August 3, 2017 at 12:28 pm

  6. Most schools give preferences to applicants whose parents attended the school.

    I’m not sure what the reasons for that are. Perhaps it makes the parents more like to donate money or leave money to the school in their estate plan.

    Perhaps these students are more likely to come to the school if offered admission.

    I believe this kind of preference is perfectly legal.

    Mike CA

    August 3, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    • It’s all about money. Even the things based on merit are ultimately about predicting who is going to be successful anyway and admitting them so that they get the credit (along with donations from that person and tuition from other people who want to mimic their success). Discriminating against asians, and jews earlier, was legitimate in that sense because I suspect both those groups under performed in life relative to their academic performance.

      Magnavox

      August 3, 2017 at 6:56 pm

      • according to unz jews were never actually discriminated against. certainly no more than asians are today.

        the wise leader kim jong trump

        August 4, 2017 at 12:51 am

      • But Asians are discriminated against if academic ability is the ostensible criteria.

        Magnavox

        August 4, 2017 at 3:10 pm

  7. Wut? A lot of prep schools are taking lots of Asians w/ wealthy foreign parents. Nothing can hold back Asian tide other than clubby rules. “We built it, it’s for us, screw off.”

    Skeptic

    August 3, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    • ethnic chinese own the economies of se asia and oceania. they may soon turn canada into a colony. but the US and antipodes are safe.

      the wise leader kim jong trump

      August 4, 2017 at 1:02 am

  8. I see a couple problems with this strategy. For one thing, as much as you may dispute it, intelligence does matter. There are a lot of bright kids from middle class backgrounds who will go on to become very successful even though their parents would not pay for Harvard without financial aid.

    Back in the days when the Ivy League was for upper crust WASPS, it was a lot more common to see successful people who had gone to non-Ivy League schools.

    Perhaps more importantly, there is political risk. If Ivy League schools start charging everyone full tuition, they may lose their anti-trust exemption. Also, it may lead to legislatures imposing tuition caps on colleges. Places like Harvard have billions and billions of dollars ripe for taking by legislators. One of the things that stops them is stores of Jose from the Bronx getting in and getting a full ride.

    fortaleza84

    August 3, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    • Most minorities and a large segment of the White population do not belong in college, period. Vocational schools leading to a job is the most cost effective and efficient method of grooming people to become servants to the capitalistic rat race. So why go to Harvard? It’s just a country club and nothing else.

      Being Hispanic myself, I’ve met a few “Joses” from the hood who ended up in the Ivy Leagues and the outcome was less than favorable. Neither does a Harvard degree work effectively for the Wangs and Yangs of Chinatown. True Ivy benefactors is a moot point. Think of Jared Kushner and all the over-privileged kids who have a leg up before entering Harvard.

      JS

      August 3, 2017 at 6:58 pm

  9. The Asian strivers wouldn’t be kept out. What happens now is that they cheat the system to get needs based scholarships, at high school and college level. If Harvard stops you’ll find a load of “poor” or “middle class” Asians magically coming up with the money.

    Jesse

    August 3, 2017 at 1:09 pm

  10. That would make it even more Asian. (Less Asian-American, but more foreign Asians).

    snorlaxwp

    August 3, 2017 at 1:35 pm

  11. Lion OT, but you now have access to a ton of streaming movies from NYC library.

    http://gothamist.com/2017/08/03/nypl_bpl_library_card_criterion_collection.php#photo-1

    Criterion Collection is good stuff. Looking forward to your reviews of classic French films!

    peterike

    August 3, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    • The Rules of the Game

      the wise leader kim jong trump

      August 4, 2017 at 1:05 am

  12. What we really need to do is reverse Griggs v Duke Power and bury adverse impact jurisprudence. Then companies can go back to giving IQ tests and the whole phony college infrastructure would tumble like a house of cards, because nobody would need a degree anymore other than in specific science/technology fields.

    peterike

    August 3, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    • other countries have similar graduation rates and don’t have Griggs.

      the wise leader kim jong trump

      August 4, 2017 at 1:06 am

  13. Am I the only one with the unpopular opinion that it’s time to roll back the Civil Rights legislation and the anti-discrimination lawsuits they enable? Whatever happened to freedom of association? Can anybody remember?

    Perhaps there was once a time when the Civil Rights laws were important and helped Americans evolve to a more just society. However by now it should be pretty clear that citizens and institutions and businesses have gotten the message. If we we shut down the whole affair, will the big employers and providers of public accommodations sigh in gratitude that they can once again exclude THOSE people. Can anybody imagine the big corporations doing that?

    Civil Rights has gotten completely ridiculous. It is a major burden that has seriously impinged productivity as every decision has to be made with such care and documented for compliance for the event of frivolous lawsuits that eventually happen anyway. One example: I recall from early in my career: an associate was making a hiring decision and decided to bring on a promising but less qualified Non-Asian Minority candidate. Wanted to give the fellow an opportunity… Long story short, it didn’t work out. The hire wasn’t exactly a catastrophe, but clearly was not performing up to expectations much less pulling his weight in the team. Of course the manager documented all the performance issues completely, but it still wasn’t enough to prevent a baseless lawsuit. Of course instead of contesting it they settled. Extortion pays. In an unusual frank moment in confidence the colleague bitterly conceded how the experience “really makes one think twice before hiring from that class of minority.”

    By now I’m thoroughly convinced that the function and threat of Civil Rights lawsuits has unintended consequences so dire that they actually do much more harm than good for the interests of the very citizens their designed to protect. The very few times I’ve shared this unorthodox perspective, my interlocutors have snarked, “What? Why do you hate black people? That’s easy for you to say as a privileged non-minority….” Maybe they’re right? But I do try to imagine viewing it from the perspective of a discriminated minority. I can’t imagine any major global, national or even regional employers discriminating… only the silly little local mismanaged ones might be likely. But even in that case, I can’t imagine wanting to work at a place like Billy-Bob’s Redneck Tavern & Shrimp Shack that really doesn’t want or welcome me but is only hiring me under government duress. Even if we fall short on justice with respect to equal and fair treatment of our fellow citizens, we’ve already advanced far beyond where the blunt instrument of government coercion is an effective remedy. Notice that the area of focus of Civil Rights jurisprudence has had to extend its reach to the most trivial domains because it has already conquered everything else where no resistance or controversy remain, such as forcing independent cake decorators to make creations to commemorate gay weddings,

    Finally I can’t in my mind reconcile how a legal order can be made consistent that simultaneously demands guarantees of fair blind unbiased consideration in all public domains while allowing private and public actors to put their thumb on the scale to offer opportunities to the disadvantaged or to create teams and communities that meet certain needs or goals regarding ethnic composition or diversity. Perhaps one with more formal training and understanding of the law can explain, but I’m baffled how a logically consistent rule of law can simultaneously entertain two such incompatible and contradictory notions. So forced to pick guarantee of fairness with the right of protest or opportunity for discretion and freedom of association, I choose the latter not only because it gives better outcomes for the affected minorities but it lifts an immense regulatory burden and threat of intervention that have by now become perverse and tyrannical.

    So when we’ve reintroduced freedom of association and Harvard, Princeton, Apple, Google and Goldman Sachs still have preferences that favor certain classes to meet their diversity objectives, everybody gets the same answer. “Suck it up. Even if it’s not fair, it’s freedom.”

    Time for my confession.

    When they accuse, “Why do you hate Black people?” they’re not nearly as close to the truth as if they asked, “Why do you hate civil rights lawyers?” Putting a few civil rights lawyers out of work would cause me to shed precious few tears.

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    August 3, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    • all multi-racial societies are doomed from birth. not the way it should be. the way it is. a telescreen and loud speaker and affirmative action can’t change that. the US is already de facto segregated, and it’s getting worse. the heart knows what the head cannot understand. pro-aa liberals are moving to whiteopias.

      the wise leader kim jong trump

      August 4, 2017 at 1:09 am

    • “it’s time to roll back the Civil Rights legislation and the anti-discrimination lawsuits they enable? Whatever happened to freedom of association?”

      that would eliminate jew privledge. won’t happen.

      Get a life

      August 4, 2017 at 1:37 pm

  14. “There’s no law that says that, if you’re selling an expensive product, you have to give the product away ”

    Isnt that the point of the Gay Wedding Cake Panic? The government can compel anyone to do anything it wants.

    Lion o' the Turambar

    August 3, 2017 at 5:18 pm

  15. No disrespect to East Asians, but they are strivers who–as it has been said many times before–lack intellectual curiosity. They do very well in management roles that require strict discipline to a set of guidelines. Thinking outside the box isn’t something EA’s do too well and as such I don’t think the America’s white ruling class has anything to worry about. Having said that, I do find them to be the most civil and soft-spoken of all the various communities that exist in Canada, after all when was the last time a gang of Chinese boys mugged an old lady?

    Roli

    August 3, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    • I don’t find many money grubbing East Asians in la belle province.

      JS

      August 4, 2017 at 11:06 am

    • Aren’t Indians the main competition for elite whites? You see more Indians in elite positions than East Asians.

      Tom

      August 4, 2017 at 3:26 pm

  16. There’s no law that says that, if you’re selling an expensive product, you have to give the product away to poor minorities who can’t afford it.

    Obamacare

    snorlaxwp

    August 4, 2017 at 12:39 am

    • Obamacare was entirely about subsidizing health care companies to expand coverage. It was a corporatist giveaway, which makes perfect sense given that it was based on a republican plan from the early nineties.

      Magnavox

      August 6, 2017 at 2:46 am

      • So you’re a retard if you think that Obamacare was about taking away from health care companies in order to give stuff to the poor.

        Magnavox

        August 6, 2017 at 3:13 am

  17. A lot of Asian parents could still afford it.

    GondwanaMan

    August 4, 2017 at 6:14 am

    • Asian parents are notoriously cheap. Although, on the other hand, Asians shamelessly worship brands, and Harvard is the ultimate brand. So it’s hard to say.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 4, 2017 at 7:29 am

  18. I think I have a solution to this problem of discrimination in admissions. I call this Transparency in Education, and Trump could probably do this via executive order.

    Goes like this. In order for any university to be eligible to receive student loans or (much more important for top schools) government grant funding, that school MUST publish all applications for admissions: this includes both those accepted and rejected. In addition, the school must publish any notes, comments, scoring systems, etc. used by the admissions committee, along with a full explanation of why a given student was accepted or rejected. This information will be published online, starting DURING the application process as applications are received.

    This system would allow for full transparency in admissions, and any “discrimination” could be easily uncovered and rooted out. How else can we know that white privilege and racism aren’t distorting the application process?

    Who could be against such an idea? Doesn’t information WANT to be free? Can we really continue to have our applications living in the shadows, like Guatemalan illegal stoop laborers? NO, I say, NO!! I have BEEN to the mountaintop. I have SEEN what true freedom looks like. And I say to you, ladies and gentlemen and those who can’t quite decide, SET OUR APPLICATIONS FREE!!!

    peterike

    August 4, 2017 at 9:49 am

    • I’m in favor of transparency.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 4, 2017 at 9:59 am

      • 3 types of “higher learning” institutions are found in Meriprolestan:

        Ivy Leagues, top-tier unis/colleges and irrelevant schools — no one is crying foul about #3.

        Most people don’t give a damn about a quality college education, just branding and how it leads to a well paying job — this is the gist of the problem in America when it comes to college admissions.

        JS

        August 4, 2017 at 11:03 am

      • “Most people don’t give a damn about a quality college education, just branding and how it leads to a well paying job”

        And what community college did you drop out of?

        destructure

        August 4, 2017 at 11:47 am

    • The admissions people, all of them leftists, would just find ways around the law.

      JohnBeck

      August 4, 2017 at 10:49 am

    • “How else can we know that white privilege and racism aren’t distorting the application process? Who could be against such an idea?”

      Civil rights hustlers would be against it because they know their claims are bollocks.

      destructure

      August 4, 2017 at 11:44 am

  19. Lion OT, but you’re interested in global warming. This is a really interesting paper on long-term global climate cycles.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/04/paleoclimate-cycles-are-key-analogs-for-present-day-holocene-warm-period/

    peterike

    August 4, 2017 at 2:20 pm

  20. ‘There’s no law…’ You’re kidding. Affirmative Action, Section 8 Housing, Forced Busing, Race/Sex Quotas. The government is always seeking to meddle with free market/associations, mostly to screw YT.

    Effete Pussy Jon Oliver

    August 4, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    • Tell the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who’ve already had their lives destroyed that Trump is sliding into Globalism. Tell it to the 10s of thousands of refugees who will now not be able to resettle in the US.

      Explain how Trump’s support for 3 separate anti immigrant bills are Globalism. Explain Sessions blocking of funds to sanctuary cities. Explain the first stages of wall funding. Explain the tightening of H1B’s.

      Trump is very flawed and he isn’t doing as much as we had hoped, but he is moving us in the right direction for the first time in 50 years.

      Otis the Sweaty

      August 4, 2017 at 7:00 pm

      • Your argument is a simple one: “Trump isn’t as bad as Hillary wouldn’t been, and he’ somewhat nationalist on certain issues.” I don’t disagree with either of these contentions – I’m very, very glad he won and not Hillary –
        but I still think he’s a disaster. I’ll put up my argument for why I believe him to be in the next day or so on my site.

        I’ll put up a post on Sessions specifically as well, addressing Lion’s strong backing of him.

        nationalistperspective

        August 4, 2017 at 8:08 pm

      • He’s not just “not as bad” as Hillary, he’s actively moving the party and the country in an anti immigrant direction. Yes the process is going much slower then we hoped but we are for the first time in 50 years on the right track. Don’t play down how huge that is.

        And even IF Trump was accomplishing nothing else of value, the fact is that real human beings are suffering from his policies. Causing immigrants to suffer if the number 1 job of the US President.

        Otis the Sweaty

        August 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm

      • Here’s the post, entitled “Why Trump is a Disaster, or: Demographics is Destiny and Personnel is Policy”. I hope you find it helpful.

        https://nationalistperspective.wordpress.com/2017/08/05/why-trump-is-a-disaster-or-demographics-is-destiny-and-personnel-is-policy/

        nationalistperspective

        August 5, 2017 at 10:59 am

  21. “Only anti-Semites on the internet count Jews as something other than white.”

    Better: Anti-Semites are the only gentiles who count Jews as something other than white.

    Quite a few Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves non white. I guess they’re cultivating an alternative identity for the time when whites are officially and openly treated as second-class citizens.

    Stealth

    August 4, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    • I don’t know of any European Jew who would check a box other than “white.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 4, 2017 at 10:26 pm

      • Good. Most who would check another box are probably insufferable SJWs.

        Stealth

        August 4, 2017 at 11:55 pm

      • A Jew is unique and needs his own Jewish box to check. I want my own box, but am being forced to check white or Caucasian. I resent it, but not to much because I think that most Jews wouldn’t want it, so there is only Jews to blame. I think that if the Jews were to say: ‘We want our own box!’, they would get it. This is what I think.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 12:03 am

      • Very anecdotally, I remember seeing a comment from a moderate-liberal Jewish professor that he dislikes checking the box for white because Holocaust. Apparently, that means he does nevertheless check it. I could imagine there being a certain level of ambivalence developing.

        It will be interesting to see what will happen if the U.S. census adds a Middle Eastern-North African option. Especially if there are equal opportunity benefits attached. Seriously, I can’t really picture how that would play out in practice.

        P.S. I agree with your main assertion, that hardcore alt-right discourse does not include Jews as “white” and this is highly unusual in any other context.

        Greg Pandatshang

        August 6, 2017 at 11:20 pm

      • Liberal professor, extreme SJW, doesn’t want to be considered white because whites are evil racists. Don’t pay any attention to that drivel.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      • Definitely not an extreme sjw in general. Former NR conservative, turned moderate liberal with age, actually a staunch opponent to social justice extremism normally. The “SJWs are illiberal” type of liberal. Picks this one instance to exhibit SJW-style thinking.

        Seriously, I’m not arguing that this type of idea is the majority opinion among American Jews. Just that it’s a strain of thought that is out there among some people.

        Greg Pandatshang

        August 6, 2017 at 11:57 pm

      • It will be interesting to see what will happen if the U.S. census adds a Middle Eastern-North African option. Especially if there are equal opportunity benefits attached. Seriously, I can’t really picture how that would play out in practice.

        Obviously Jews won’t be inclined to check Middle Eastern/North African (despite Sailer’s trolling his mindless dittohead audience for donations with his hack punditry/fundraising scam about Jews) because they will associate it with Muslims.

        Neither will non-Muslim immigrants from the Near East for the same reason.

        Amazing how many people obsess about Jews decade after decade without learning anything about them.

        But there you have it.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 7, 2017 at 12:01 am

      • Liberal professor, extreme SJW, doesn’t want to be considered white because whites are evil racists. Don’t pay any attention to that drivel.

        They have no survey data (the GSS says Jews overwhelmingly identify white) to back it up so these are all anecdotes.

        P.S. I agree with your main assertion, that hardcore alt-right discourse does not include Jews as “white” and this is highly unusual in any other context.

        As usual with the altright they don’t know what they’re talking about.

        What I suspect they mean is not that Jews don’t identify as generically white but that Jews don’t identify as white nationalists. But then why should Jews as a group identify with it given that Jews aren’t exactly being welcomed in those circles.

        They should be nicer because a small but talented number of Jews (as well as an increasing number of partial Jews such as myself) taking over white nationalism is the only way the yahoo gentile racialists have any hope of becoming politically relevant.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 7, 2017 at 12:07 am

      • Geez, mellow out a little. Sailer’s one of the good guys. You didn’t like his MENA posts, so now he’s a hack with a fundraising scam?

        What I suspect they mean is not that Jews don’t identify as generically white but that Jews don’t identify as white nationalists.

        Maybe if you’re their psychoanalyst, that’s the buried motive behind their anti-Semitism. But the stated reason, at least for the altright.com/TRS crowd, is that they are racial/cultural essentialists and they believe that Jews have a different core nature than Europeans do. Accepting this premise leads to the conclusion that it’s actually worse if Jews intermingle with Europeans and become similar to them, because this only serves to disguise their innermost pith, which is remains foreign. Now, this is nonsense, of course. “White” is a group of people who have common biological and cultural traits because of shared ancestry. To be similar to white people because of shared ancestry simply is what it means to be white.

        I’d like to believe that some of the more intelligent alt-rightists don’t really believe in this essentialism stuff, but that it’s an extreme simplification they provide for public consumption (because most people have trouble understanding the idea that an contingent fact can be real and important; people are much more comfortable with essences). But their anti-Semitism seems to disprove this possibility, because it makes no sense without this belief in the unchanging racial essence.

        They should be nicer because a small but talented number of Jews (as well as an increasing number of partial Jews such as myself) taking over white nationalism is the only way the yahoo gentile racialists have any hope of becoming politically relevant.

        Sure. Of course. Who wouldn’t their movement taken over by someone with your charm and wit?

        Greg Pandatshang

        August 7, 2017 at 11:57 pm

  22. 115, 100, 85,…

    to the extent that american jews regard white gentiles in the same way that white gentiles regard blacks…

    this is a recipe for disaster.

    the wise leader kim jong trumo

    August 4, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    • Is Jewish IQ really 115? More recently it was brought down to 110-112.

      But 115 is more representative of their actual achievement.

      GondwanaMan

      August 5, 2017 at 7:48 am

      • Most Jews I know feel much higher then 115 and I’m the dumb one, but surely higher then that. 115 is pretty stupid.

        The Jews that work as sheet metal mechanics feel about that. This just my experience, I’m sure there are plenty dumb Jews as well, but all the dumb ones I know are also retarded, meaning there is something psychologicaly wrong with them. So I dunno what all these dumb Jews do. Oh, I remember now! We had a Jewish security guard on Wall Street. So that guy used to come to our minyan(prayer quorum) to say Kaddish (prayer for the deseased on the anniversary of their passing) a couple of times a year. He used to say: ‘First I’m a human being and then I’m a Jew.’ What an idiot! Mishna teaches exactly that – that first comes common human decency, then religious observance, but that idiot wanted to say that his allegiance is first to the Gentiles, that’s what he called humanity, and then to the Jews! Now, that’s an idiot. Had very low IQ, as is patently obvious by his occupation.

        Yakov

        August 5, 2017 at 9:57 pm

      • You know 115 IQ Jewish sheet metal mechanics? 115 is just a little bit less than the average IQ of accountants. Considering the emphasis Jews put on prestigious careers, it seems odd that Jews that smart would be working such a prole job.

        But then again, smart people are more likely to end up in prole careers than dummies are to end up in smart careers.

        GondwanaMan

        August 6, 2017 at 6:32 am

      • Accounting is what Jews like my 80-year -old Uncle did. Now accounting is being taken over by the Indians and the Chinese.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 10:19 am

      • Accounting is s still a fine profession for a Jew. I don’t know anyone who uses a non Jewish accountant or adoctor or a dentist or an attorney? I mean, who’s gonna go to a Nigerian?

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 11:31 am

      • My dentist is a gay gentile. He’s a very good dentist.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 12:13 pm

      • You are pulling my leg, right? Gay dentists infect patients with HIV. Get tested ASAP and change dentists.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 12:48 pm

      • I wouldn’t go to a gay dentist either. The chances are small, but…

        GondwanaMan

        August 6, 2017 at 2:22 pm

      • Is there anything written since 1993 that sheds more light on the matter?

        Is the chance of getting AIDS from your dentist greater or less than your chance of being struck by lightening?

        Which needs to be balanced against the difficulty of finding a heterosexual dentist that you like.

        And it should be noted that my dentist served in the army.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 6, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      • Had we established on this blog that guys are mental? Never heard if anybody having problems finding a heterosexual dentist. I dunno about lightening.

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm

  23. Lion, did you see this picture of the Mooch carrying his own bags off the plane like a loser after he got firedd? I feel bad for the guy.

    Tom

    August 4, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    • This is the same guy who told everyone that if he catches anyone leaking any info about Trump, they will be selling souvenirs to tourists in the DC area.

      JS

      August 5, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    • To come to think of it: Trump played up the stereotypes that guidos are the mafia. This guy was essentially a button man in the White House. He was sent there to rat out Prince Reibus, and then he was sent away after this specific purpose.

      JS

      August 6, 2017 at 12:20 pm

  24. This won’t solve anything. What the country needs is only European immigration and drastically increased white birthrate. So you should be thinking of a religion or an ideology to enable you to accomplish this. Instead of all this Harvard blah-blah-blah. My cousin went to Harvard and is an attorney with no kids. So what good is Harvard? It’s all blah-blah-blah. This is very simple.

    Yakov

    August 5, 2017 at 9:46 pm

  25. This whole thing that Lion has about twisting yourself into a pretzel to impress an admissions Nazi and get into an elite college is baloney. What’s important for a kid’s future is to have a happy childhood. What’s important for an adult is to operate on his own level. All this Jewish paranoia about education and my son the doctor could be understood in a historical context, but that context has since then disappeared. When I was a kid, all I cared about was books and sports and I wouldn’t change anything or do anything to please any of these Nazis. This is an epitome of beta sissiness to be obsessed with elite colleges at all cost. In life you got to be yourself and happy. This is very simple.

    Yakov

    August 5, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    • Of course, America is strictly capitalistic, which is prole. Without money, you’re pretty much f#cked in America. Therefore, any job is good, if it pays well and leads to survival.

      JS

      August 6, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      • Will you stop posting nonsiquitur comments?

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      • In America, there is no social welfare, therefore, where there is no money, there is no happy. Of course, you advocate for a Darwinian society. Guys who commute long hours to work at a minimum wage job — this is America for you. But then again, America needs to be capitalistic, because there are too many NAMs.

        JS

        August 6, 2017 at 3:38 pm

      • JS, what part of my comment are you responding to? Do you smoke pot? Are you high?

        Yakov

        August 6, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    • ” What’s important for an adult is to operate on his own level.”

      But when the entire thrust of society over the past five decades is to tell everyone they are above average?

      Curle

      August 7, 2017 at 10:09 am

      • That is true and is very detrimental to happiness.

        Yakov

        August 7, 2017 at 6:26 pm

  26. ‘and they also must list their surname mr lion. not just race and religious affiliation if any. unz did surname analysis too. he would have corrected for mixed marriages. i hope. that is, within a very large population the frequency of “cohen” or some variant is sufficient. within smaller populations a combination of “cohen” and other typically ashkenazi names will give an almost perfect estimate. at least in the US where 99% of jews are ashkenazi.’

    Unz is a consumate anti-semite, but this is going full Nazi (and ofcourse complete fabrication). I say that Unz should be shot on sight.

    Yakov

    August 6, 2017 at 12:57 am


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