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What’s Jaime Lannister’s angle?

He has been presented as more noble and good than his sister Cersie or his late father. He’s kind to his brother Tyrion. Although he acts as butcher for his family, he seems to feel somewhat guilty and conflicted about it.

He killed the Mad King whom he was sworn to protect because the Mad King was insane and planned to burn down King’s Landing. Killing the Mad King opened the way for the Lannister-Baratheon alliance to take over.

Given this history, I don’t see Jaime voluntarily joining forces with Daenerys. He killed her father, and now she comes to Westeros with a horde of barbarians and napalm-breathing dragons causing horrible death to his Lannister troops. During the final scene of the episode, he was dead set on doing to her what he did to her father. There was no white knightism on account of her being a pretty blonde girl.

I think that if Jaime had to join forces with anyone not his sister, he would be with Jon Snow and the Starks. Jaime feels a little guilty for everything his family did to the Starks, and now he knows that the old Tyrell woman and not Sansa was responsible for Joffrey’s murder. And perhaps he feels that he owes something to the Starks because Catelyn Stark set him free (although she was a Tully by birth and only a Stark by marriage).

On the other hand, the Starks may hate him too much ever to accept any service from him, and he may be on Arya’s kill list. The most consistent thing for Jaime is to escape (because he always manages to escape) and fight to the bitter end for his sister.

All that said, the writers don’t have to follow any particular logic if they don’t want to, especially now that George R.R. Martin is no longer in charge of the plot. The writers seem to favor everyone buying into Dany’s propaganda about fighting for justice and the little people.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 7, 2017 at EDT am

Posted in Television

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  1. Jaime Lannister exists purely as a “screw you” to the audience. He’s handsome and blond and brave and (was) a good fighter so of course he’s morally depraved – committing incest, adultery, killing his own family members (the cousin of his that he killed to escape when captured by Robb), attempting to murder a child, etc.

    Instead we’re supposed to sympathize with Tyrion – his story is presented in an order that makes him seem sympathetic but take a closer look at what they showed last episode. Tywin doesn’t like Tyrion – fine not admirable to dislike your son because he’s born deformed and kills your wife in childbirth but emotionally understandable – and gives him a job to prove his quality and boy oh boy does he prove his quality. When building a sewage system for his ancestral castle Tyrion builds in a giant security hole in the form of a secret passage that can be used to attack the place so he can have sex with prostitutes in his own chambers rather than in a brothel. But only he knew about it! Really? Did he personally dig out the passage? No? Oh, then I assume he killed all the workmen who dug it out? No – he didn’t do that either? Just created a massive security hole in his ancestral castle that eventually would be common knowledge (as the workmen talk and as he leads more and more prostitutes through it – think of how many people would have knowledge of that passage). Actually if you think about it the passage should have been sealed up when the Unsullied tried to use it because it should have been common knowledge by now.

    Then he goes and tells this story to his new queen like it’s something to be proud of – “my dad was mean to me so instead of confronting him I had a tantrum and sabotaged my family”. If Dany had any sense at all she immediately makes a mental note to replace this guy as hand and have him exiled as soon as she meets a better candidate for the job.

    Steve Johnson

    August 7, 2017 at EDT pm

  2. Jamie does not really have an angle, he is just a loyal pretty boy hound for his family. He is always doing a job some one else assigns him.


    August 7, 2017 at EDT pm

  3. Let’s remember, before his hand was chopped off he was considered the greatest swordsman ever, or one of them. Which is not nothing in his world. So he started out as a more powerful/dangerous character in that sense.

    Perhaps it was the psychological toll of losing his hand that weakened him, as in essence it emasculated him. More and more he seems to be falling under Cersie’s spell and going along with her increasing evil. Not that bad stuff hasn’t happened to her, but the Lanister’s kind of started it. I think. I don’t even remember anymore, except that now Cersie is Cruella DeVille and we’re all supposed to hate her when we’re not all Go Grrrllll at her Grrrrllll Power. Why look, it’s all WOMEN on the thrones everywhere! Except Jon Snow but it’s OK cuz he’s a hunk, and Sansa is making the important decisions about putting fur on the armor.

    I may have had a point, but I don’t remember what it is now.

    Anyway, seems nobody really thinks Jamie’s dead. Not yet anyway. Maybe Dickon saves him and we can get more Dickon jokes (love the way Bron burst out laughing when he heard his name).

    Does Jamie switch sides? I dunno. His kids are all dead, so he’s lost that particular connection with his sister. But then, he always talks about how he’d do anything for her, like when he talked to that guy last season as they were attacking the Blackfish. He said he’d kill everyone and their brother just so he could get back to Cersie. Face it, the guy is a hunk who could be gettin’ it on with every hot chick in King’s Landing, but he’s got fatal one-itis for his sister. And one-itis is fundamentally Beta, so ultimately he’s got to lose.


    August 7, 2017 at EDT pm

  4. Jaime Lannister is going down with his sister (pun intended). His loyalty ultimately lies with Cersi so he’ll probably stick with her to the bitter end. It’s not like he’s not unaware of how evil she is now. He knows, but he just can’t help himself.

    Mike Street Station

    August 7, 2017 at EDT pm

  5. At this point, I’m just hoping, since the writers are setting up Jon and Dany to be attracted to each other, that the whole story about Azor Ahai having to kill his wife/lover to save the world gets brought back and the Mad Bitch will be ended.


    August 7, 2017 at EDT pm

  6. Jaime Lannister is prophesied to kill Cersei by strangling her. This is faily clear in the books and hinted in the TV-show.

    “Cersei: Will the king and I have children?

    Maggy: Oh, aye. Six-and-ten for him, and three for you. Gold shall be their crowns and gold their shrouds, she said. And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar [little brother] shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you”

    Cersie belives valonqar to be Tyrion in her attempts to stop the forest witch prophecy, but we are also told that Jaime was born a few minutes after Cersie.

    This fate is perhaps also foreshadowed by the song they keep singing about cold hands.


    August 9, 2017 at EDT am

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