Lion of the Blogosphere

VDARE targeted by corporate left

This week, VDARE was cut off from Paypal and the hotel where they reserved a conference in 2018 canceled the reservation.

Luckily, I’m further below the radar than VDARE. But perhaps, to be prepared, I should look for a new blogging platform in Russia? This week, WordPress.com banned the anti-Semitic Vanguard America blog.

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Being old enough to remember the Cold War, it does seem very weird that Russia is now the place to go to avoid U.S. censorship.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 17, 2017 at EDT am

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  1. It is not strange. In past the ideology of Russia was communism. Now it is nationalism.

    tmmm

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • As M.Y. Saltykov-Shedrin a 19th century Russian author put it (in my poor translation):

      ‘They started talking about patriotism. They (the government officials) must’ve stolen a lot. ‘

      Yakov

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

  2. I fully expect WordPress to try and shut down your blog, and especially Roissy’s blog. Fortunately all you need is a hosting service, not a blog. But GoDaddy has also revealed they aren’t interested in protecting free speech.

    ‘Vote with your wallet’ isn’t going to cut it when virtually all of corporate America is controlled by the same hateful ideology. I don’t see a solution besides breaking up these companies. Google and Amazon especially. Average Americans shouldn’t have to live in fear that expressing an unpopular opinion would mean they are denied services ranging from telephone to banking to taxis and corner store.

    Panther of the Blogocube

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Vox Day had a, to me, convincing periscope yesterday that argued these moves by the Corporate Left are only hastening their demise. People need the services these companies provide and if they have no choice because they’ve been excluded they will create new platforms. What, alt-right men are suddenly going to just suddenly go back to reading National Review and that’s that? No way. Necessity is the mother of invention.

      Andrew E.

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

      • There are about three thousand KKK members, 15 hundred nazis, and maybe four thousand various white nationalists. Double that to include lurkers on those sites. Even if you assume the HBD-sphere gets banned as well, that’s at most maybe 25 thousand readers.

        You’re talking about well under a hundred thousand readers in web traffic. Let’s be optimistic and assume you can monetize at two cents a unique visit, and they visit your site twice a day. That’s less than a million a year in revenue.

        For that measly amount you’ll have to supply your own 1) datacenter (no cloud hosting company will touch you), 2) domain name registrar (none will touch these sites), 3) peering agreement with the major backbones (no ISP will service your company), and 4) ad network/payment system.

        There’s no viable business model. The amount of traffic actually interested in the Daily Stormer is effectively a rounding error on internet traffic.

        Doug

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • The alt-right is far larger than kkk, neo-nazi, hardcore white nationalist. You are swallowing boomer media narrative.

        Andrew E.

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “The alt-right is far larger than kkk, neo-nazi, hardcore white nationalist. You are swallowing boomer media narrative.”

        Not by much.

        I would be surprised if it tops 60,000 people. It exists online, but there isn’t much of a real world presence. No actual in-print magazines, no PACS, no political organizations…it’s a non entity when it comes to actual political influence. At it’s height, the Tea Party had millions of dollars, multiple organizations, PACs that raised millions of dollars…nothing like that for the “alt-right.”

        Mike Street Station

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • You don’t get fired for going to a TEA party rally. People are far more wary of expressing ideas like the google guy did than they are about joining tea party stuff. Tea party was really just against the soaring national debt and high taxes. That is main stream with a capital M. Even liberals don’t love the national debt and high taxes. The media tried to tar the tea party as everything from racists to pro-lifers, but it did not stick at all because it was so obviously false and the issues so well known and easy to understand. Alt right views are far more easily twisted and demonised because they are anchored to a reality largely excluded from view. Most people don’t know statistics or what they mean. You get fired for suggesting that the reason only about 20% of software engineers are women because women don’t want to do that work. The media can use jazz hands to make it seem sexist when in fact a person who stopped to think of all the women they know could easily figure it is true.

        not too late

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Not by much.

        I have a loose definition of alt-right as anyone who seriously questions the official narratives on race/sex/religion since that is all that is necessary to turn the tide and restore civilization. There are now millions of young white men that fall into this category to varying degrees.

        Andrew E.

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • How will splitting them up help if it’s all part of the same monoculture? Right wingers need to start demanding non discrimination for their constituencies the same way Democrats do.

      Magnavox

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • not allowing someone to deny services to people they don’t like would be violating their rights. wordpress has a right to deny roissy just like christian bakers have a right to deny gays wedding cakes. you can try to ruin wordpress with a smear campaign if you would like, like how they did to the bakery, but thats all you can do

      gm

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • The fact is it is illegal to discriminate against all sorts of democratic voting groups (gays, blacks, etc), all of your silly principles have done is prevented any republican groups from getting the same protection.

        Magnavox

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Who cares? We’ve long passed the pretense of propriety and fairness. Look at that old fool Jeff Sessions trying to play by the rules while sputtering freaks destroy his southern cultural heritage. His middle name is fucking Beauregard.

        It’s time to play Who? Whom? And it’s time to play to win.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Lion’s rhetoric isn’t inflammatory enough to be targeted by the censors.

      Heartiste’s, probably.

      Jason Liu

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • It’s a sliding scale. I agree it’s unlikely Lion will get mopped up in the first purge or two, but through attrition he’ll become one of the more extreme voices still standing, and therefore next to get punched once another Charlottesville happens and leftists feel like letting off steam.

        Richard

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Is VDare’s rhetoric inflammatory compared to Lion’s? Compared to Sailer’s?

        not too late

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  3. This is OT but I’m struck by the video of the alt-left rushing to beat the car with bats. What did they think the driver was going to do? Of course he was going to run them over, he’d already just done that. It seems like that’s the left’s strategy: attack whites and expect whites not to respond. But what happens if whites decide to run them over? They don’t seem to have considered that.

    BJ dubbS

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Attacking from the side would have been both brave and admirable, given what had just happened, but none of these people seem to have much street smarts. When the mob pulled down the statue in Durham a few days ago, several of them began punching it with their bare fists.

      Richard

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

      • I’ve heard some spectators at witch burnings got strange thrills over the corpses. The superstitious mind is a scary thing to watch when in the throws of passion.

        Curle

        August 17, 2017 at EDT am

  4. If you do not control your own server, your site can be disappeared in but a few moments. Hosting companies are there to make money and not waves.
    If you do control your own server and your users do not include alternate DNS servers in their networking setups, your site’s address can be made invisible to the majority of the internet in a few moments.
    If your users do have alternate DNS servers it will take a few moments longer to make your site invisible.
    The theory of the internet is that the piping is dumb but central and the endpoints are intelligent but dispersed; the opposite of the telephone network where the piping is smart and central and the phones are dumb and dispersed. He who controls the DNS controls the dumb piping and can disappear any smart point.

    CK

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

  5. The Left has always liked to rewrite history. The Soviet communists airbrushed photographs to remove “unpersons” – Trotsky, for example, a major figure in the Revolution, was obliterated from the historical record after his break with Stalin (of course, Stalin did more than remove him from the records, he removed him from the planet permanently by having him murdered).

    This business about taking down statues and trying to rewrite history is disgusting. But I’m not sure it isn’t to the overall benefit of trump and his supporters. A lot of people are repelled by this sort of stuff. The MSM love it, of course, but folks on the Right don’t pay any attention to them anyway.

    BTW, seven of the first eleven US presidents were slave owners. I wonder how this unpleasant fact will be dealt with.

    Black Death

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Noone is writing the Confederacy or slave holders out of history. If anything their centrality to history and relevance to contemporary events only increases year after year.

      Magnavox

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • You just told us.

      Curle

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • “BTW, seven of the first eleven US presidents were slave owners. I wonder how this unpleasant fact will be dealt with.”

      They will be “disappeared” from history it looks like. I mean, who doesn’t think that eventually the SJW guys are going to win this, like they’ve won every war?

      Mike Street Station

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • But weren’t the contemporary Africans in Africa itself also slave owners and traders? What’s the problem? Those were the times and then the white people abolished slavery, but the blacks in Africa didn’t. There are still plenty of cannibals there. So the blacks should be ashamed of themselves, not the whites. This is very simple.

      Yakov

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  6. We all knew this day would come eventually, but it’s chilling now that it’s here nonetheless.

    Two in the Bush

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • It is, isn’t? It’s really finally showing who has the ALL THE POWER in this society and they have no intention of letting go of one drop. Unlike the old WASP establishment that gave away the store in the name of “fairness” and of course profits.

      If a white person denies service to a non-white person who advocates for his race, the white person is a nazi. If a non-white denies service to a white person who advocates for his race, the white person is a nazi.

      This is the world we live in.

      fakeemail

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  7. White supremacists and Neo-Nazis do not believe in HBD, although they may try to use HBD to justify there hate, but they hate Asians and Jews too and that cannot be justified by HBD.

    So far this is a blog about HBD, not ethno-nationalism. I suppose it is possible that distinction could get lost in a rush to ban hate sites, but this blog is so obscure that I doubt it would happen.

    mikeca

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • HBD believing anti semites generally think that both Jew’s intelligence and their self serving anti majoritarian politics are innate. That’s what supposedly makes them such an intolerably dangerous presence. Read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald if you want a book length treatment.

      Magnavox

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • True. Including the issue of self deception developed by Robert Trivers.

        Rifleman

        August 18, 2017 at EDT pm

    • MikeCa,

      James Damore was fired from Google and unpersoned for scientific statements much milder than general HBD.

      Dan

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • by a ceo who was born and raised in india.

        globalists claim that anti-globalists are “racists”. this sells because false consciousness.

        globalism is inherently, and by design, anti-democracy.

        it’s Total Normalization.

        ron burgundy

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • ron burgundy

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Black supremacists believe in HBD but it’s pseudoscience about melanin and the pineal gland.

      destructure

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • by your logic every HBDer should move to israel or japan…if he can.

      ron burgundy

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  8. I thought Thiel was a libertarian and thus against big brother? Is he no longer big man at paypal?

    Curle

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Thiel sold PayPal to Ebay in 2002. He has not had anything to do with PayPal in a long time.

      mikeca

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

      • eBay spun off PayPal. It’s now an independent company trading under ticker symbol PYPL on NASDAQ.

        Mark Caplan

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Thiel has evolved away from libertarianism in the past few years. He’s made statements that he’s more or less given up on democracy, and he supported Trump.

      Mike Street Station

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  9. I doubt they’ll touch you. This blog has a milquetoast countenance.

    That said, before you think of going to Russia, there’s always Unz.com.

    IHTG

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Unz is a vile anti-semite and Lion will not go there. That having been said, as someone who had grown up in the USSR lemme tell you mates that 1st and 2nd amendments are what makes this country great. I would shoot Unz on site (sight, that is), but I wouldn’t limit his free speech.

      Incidentally, Russia intimidates its independent bloggers and journalists far worse then the US. So I dunno why anyone would want to go there. Tomorrow they will reach a deal with US and shut everyone down. Be real, mates.

      Yakov

      August 17, 2017 at EDT am

      • I thought Unz was Jewish himself.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        August 17, 2017 at EDT am

      • Some say Hitler was Jewish.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Well Ron Unz grew up speaking yiddish.

        Magnavox

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • What exactly distinguishes an overly tribal gentile (anti-Semite) from an overly tribal Jewish person or any other excessively tribal person except for their targets?

        Curle

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Overly tribal Jews can be identified by black 19th century inspired clothing and beards.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Unz is henceforth excommunicated.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Magna, Hitler could understand a lot if Yiddish.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Tribal Jews want what’s good for the Jews not what’s bad for the gentiles, they don’t have targets. You can ask a better question: what distinguishes a Jew from a Gentile? Once you understand this everything else will fall into place.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Strong definition: A Jew believes in the Torah and the Talmud.
        Weak definition: A Jew has maternal ancestors who believed in the Torah and the Talmud.

        Gentile: Believes in Jesus, or has ancestors who believed in Jesus.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • ‘Unz is henceforth excommunicated.’

        These are words and words are cheap. I’ve already announced his verdict in the name of the Jewish Tribal vigilantes.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • What I mean by anti semites actual, culturally derived definition is whatever culturally influential people agree is an antisemite.

        Magnavox

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • what did unz ever say that you label him a “vile anti-semite”?

        his The Myth of American Meritocracy may have had exaggerated numbers, but it wasn’t anti-semitic.

        ron burgundy

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Magna, Hitler could understand a lot if Yiddish.

        More than any other german speaking person?

        Magnavox

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Gentile: Believes in Jesus, or has ancestors who believed in Jesus.

        Are muslims and hindus not gentile?

        destructure

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Unz is a vile anti-semite and Lion will not go there.

        What did he do? Point out that Jews are somehow massively overrepresented in the Ivy Leagues despite their plummeting academic performance?

        Incidentally, Russia intimidates its independent bloggers and journalists far worse then the US.

        I’m an independent blogger and journalist in Russia and I’m doing just fine (to date).

        It’s more accurate to say that different countries have different verboten topics, and different ways of enforcing said tabooes.

        akarlin

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “What did he do? Point out that Jews are somehow massively overrepresented in the Ivy Leagues despite their plummeting academic performance?”

        No, he suggested that there’s a Jewish Conspiracy behind it. As did you. So cut it out. Anti-Semitic comments aren’t tolerated. There are plenty of places where they are (although many can no longer collect payments with PayPal).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Point out that Jews are somehow massively overrepresented in the Ivy Leagues despite their plummeting academic performance?

        He deceptively failed to mention half of all Jewish college students have 1 gentile parent – the Ivy’s are 10-15% Jewish given intermarriage trends. When I challenged him with the data on Unz.com he had no response but never corrected his “research”:

        http://www.hillel.org/about/news-views/news-views—blog/news-and-views/2004/01/21/jewish-students-involved-connections-vary

        That is one conclusion from National Jewish Population Survey 2000-01 data released by the United Jewish Communities (UJC), the survey’s sponsor, at the recent Hillel international professional staff conference. Addressing the Hillel Conference in Princeton, NJ, NJPS Project Manager Lorraine Blass and NJPS Research Director Laurence Kotler-Berkowitz estimated that there were 268,300 Jews age 18-24, and 91,300 Jews age 25-29 on campuses in 2000-01, for a total campus Jewish population of 359,600. An estimated 232,600 Jews age 18-24 were not on campus, some of whom were still in high school and a majority of whom reported that they were working full or part time. NJPS was conducted from August 2000 through August 2001 and included interviews with 217 Jews, ages 18-29, who were in college at the time of the survey. UJC’s PowerPoint presentation on Jewish college students is available at ujc.org and hillel.org.

        snip

        The NJPS data reveal that the college-age Jewish population is almost evenly split between those who have two Jewish parents (48 percent) and those who have only one Jewish parent (45 percent). Students with two Jewish parents tend to be more religiously observant and Jewishly connected than those with only one Jewish parent. For example, 80 percent of those with two Jewish parents felt very positive about being Jewish compared to 65 percent among those with one Jewish parent. Both groups demonstrated an interest in Jewish studies, with 43 percent of those with two Jewish parents and 24 percent of those with one Jewish parent taking at least one Jewish studies course during their time in college.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • @Magna
        ‘More than any other german speaking person?’

        No, Eichman, for example, understood more.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • @Lion

        Your definition is technical and, like everything you say about Judaism, is superficial. Because if it were not, things would fall into places, but they don’t.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • ‘It’s more accurate to say that different countries have different verboten topics, and different ways of enforcing said tabooes.’

        US, Russia and Zimbabwe just have different verboten topics. Different strokes for different folks, right? Are there any plans to have a Russian language version of the Unz Review? It should do quite well, I would think. You are doing fine, but you aren’t exposing Russian government corruption or fighting for the rights of Russian citizens. Try doing that and tell us that you are doing just fine.

        Just took a look at The Unz Review and as usual it has some fine pieces that Julius Streicher could have been proud of.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • No, he suggested that there’s a Jewish Conspiracy behind it.

        There is a conspiracy but it’s a globalist conspiracy. Though not much of a conspiracy anymore it’s so out in the open now. There are Jews high up in it, there are Catholic officials, other Christian and non-Christian gentiles who are part of this at the highest levels. White and non-white but mostly white. It’s Babylonian in origin, the original One World government. This is the lesson that the Jew-obsessed faction of the alt-right needs to learn or else they’ll just get left behind.

        Andrew E.

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Just took a look at The Unz Review and as usual it has some fine pieces that Julius Streicher could have been proud of.

        You mean Julius Streicher would have been embarrassed of.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • but he did NOT suggest there was a conspiracy.

        at least not in The Myth of American Meritocracy.

        what i recall is he suggested that admissions people (mostly gentiles) may have seen names they thought sounded jewish and due to previous supposed discrimination (it was always very mild if it ever was) sub-consciously prefered such names. even if they weren’t actually jews.

        maybe that’s how my dad got in. harvard class of ’66.

        ron burgundy

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • but his son still can’t spell preferred

        sad!

        ron burgundy

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Unz is all over the place. It’s not just right of center.

        I think Ron Unz likes to promote a broad – left, right, old libertarian and just oddball set of views on his site.

        Rifleman

        August 18, 2017 at EDT pm

  10. They are private companies so they should be able to deny their services to whomever they want, unless they don’t want to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

    Biff7

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

    • Hopefully now conservatives will see how dumb they’ve been all these years thinking they were getting something over on democrats by only ever passing laws to protect groups that vote for democrats and leaving their own voters out in the cold.

      Magnavox

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • maggie — Conservatives never wanted that. But the GOP base (like the Dem base) aren’t in charge. The billionies and corporations are in charge. The only exception might be the gun rights and abortion. The establishment has to throw them something to keep the happy while they outsource their jobs and flood the country with foreigners who vote against them. Democracy is shit.

        destructure

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  11. It feels like these companies have wanted to do this for a long time, but feared the repercusions – but now Charlottesville has given them an opening to rid themselves of troublemakers. Don’t want to associate with Nazis, now, do we?

    It’s almost enough to make me beleive in some of the conspiracies around C-ville…

    jimbo

    August 17, 2017 at EDT am

  12. I stay in Barcelona in Las ramblas carrer d’avinyó now. I was in Berlin in the Novotel in front of the market where the truck killed the people. And in Paris, I live next to Bataclan. Terror is part of bobos’ lifestyle !

    Bruno

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Yes, but if Europe’s diversity were affected, that would be the REAL tragedy.

      peterike

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  13. O/T again apologies.

    But we have pretty solid evidence that Nazism and Islamism are bosom buddies (see WWII). With the recent radical Islamic attack in Barcelona, will it be noticed that Trump hates Islamism, and therefore logically he cannot love Nazis?

    Silly me.

    This horrific attack strikes very close to home for me, as my son was on that street not a week ago while touring Europe.

    It must be maddening for the MSM et al to have to change focus to this real terror attack.

    gda

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Have to? The MSM will memoryhole it within 3 days and go back to talking about evil Nazis.

      Meanwhile, ALL of corporate America is happily purging thought criminals from their ranks, their customer databases, and eagerly acting to end free speech and other rights for actual Americans.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  14. Corey Booker comes out (hah!) as the leader of effort to remove Confederate statues from the Capitol. This is a losing electoral position nationally. Sorry Otis, Booker’s 2020 prospects just took a downturn.

    Andrew E.

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Just 20 years ago his party built a monument for Franklin D. Roosevelt, who put thousands of Americans in concentration camps because of their ethnicity. A reporter should ask Cory’s position on that.

      Richard

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Culture is changing quickly. It may not be “a losing electoral position nationally” in 2020, and it definitely won’t be a losing proposition to win the Democratic nomination.

      Mike Street Station

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Its main weakness is tactical, probably. I can already hear Trump on the campaign trail: “I’m working hard to bring jobs to this country and repair our roads and hospitals, which our beautiful citizens so badly need, and you want to tear down statues?”

        Richard

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • But the Democrats are already there. Hillary’s entire campaign was identity politics/”her turn”/glass ceiling.

        She won the popular vote.

        Mike Street Station

        August 18, 2017 at EDT am

  15. You seem to want to be a target by explicitly linking yourself to the likes of Vdare. It may not have been obvious to others that you’re some kind of fellow traveler, but it is now.

    Dain

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • You sound like the smirking liberals who blame Scalia for gay marriage because he correctly pointed out where previous Court rulings would lead.

      Richard

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  16. I feel deeply “blackpilled” by current events. The entire politico-corporate behemoth seems to be united in destroying the dissident right, and there is no authority willing to stand up for our basic civil rights.

    There is a clear possibility, even the likelihood of all our outlets being shut down and individual contributors being persecuted. It’s happening. And maybe we don’t win.

    jjbees

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Hey, the South lost the Civil War. The Nazis lost WWII. There is a pattern here. . .

      fakeemail

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Were that true, maybe the yankees would stop moving here

        Tiger of the Cosmos

        August 18, 2017 at EDT am

  17. Russia would do as a resort for lower profile blogs in the English language if things were to really go haywire in the US.

    That said, Russia has its own European-style hate laws (Article 282), which are predictably abused, sometimes in rather whimsical fashion – possibly the most flagrant such case was when a nationalist got a sentence for saying, “It’s time to do away with this strange economic system [of subsidies to the Caucasus]”. (Later overturned, but still).

    Of course Russia will care much less about English language stuff, or about non-Nazi’esque HBD stuff (though not always), but it is a country whose elite still has a strong cargo cult attitude to the West and SJW attitudes are spreading so I wouldn’t count on it to stand up for you.

    akarlin

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • I would think hosting a lot of English language websites because they were banned by hosting services in the West generally and the US in particular would be a rather huge propaganda victory of sorts. I imagine Russian diplomats, and foreign service people would get a kick out of bringing it up in nearly every interview with an American journalist about “so called free speech” in the US.

      Mike Street Station

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Hosting an American Nazi or a KKK website because it couldn’t find a service provider in the US is no propaganda victory.

        Yakov

        August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

  18. Drudge highlighting Gary Cohen outrage over Trump equating violence of violent multi-racialist Left with violent nationalist Right. Is there a difference? If not, why does Cohen care? Multi-racialist thugs are better than nationalist or White thugs, if so how and why?

    Curle

    August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

    • This is very simple. Trump is equating them as a matter if law. Which is true and I agree with him. However, on a moral or value level people can feel different about them. I would not let Nazis march in my neighborhood, for example. I would riot, but I would expect to be charged with a misdemeanor. Because from the legal perspective a riot is a riot regardless of weather you are a Jew or a Nazi. This is a good thing and I’m OK with it.

      Yakov

      August 17, 2017 at EDT pm

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