Lion of the Blogosphere

Why is Paul Manafort being indicted?

It seems to me that Mueller’s goal is just to punish anyone he can who he thinks helped Trump become president. And secondarily, to get people to finger others in exchange for prosecutorial leniency. Manafort does strike me as the kind of guy who would snitch if he knew anything.

We now know that Manafort was wiretapped, so Trump was sort of correct when he tweeted about being wiretapped. At least one political associate was wiretapped.

I think that if there was any smoking-gun evidence in Manafort’s wiretapped conversations, it would have been leaked by now.

Let’s remember that Manafort was only a temporary associate of Trump. He was hired because Ted Cruz was trying to steal the nomination from Trump through sneaky delegate tactics, and Manafort was the only guy available for Trump to hire who knew how to deal with that, because Manafort was involved with the contested Republican convention in 1976. After that stage of the campaign passed, Manafort was let go in favor of Steve Bannon.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 19, 2017 at 9:17 am

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  1. It’s Hillary who should be indicted. Plus Susan Rice. Plus Lois Lerner and the IRS officials involved in the targeting scandal. Plus the VA officials responsible for all the veterans who died on waiting lists and then lied about it. Plus the Solyndra gang. Plus the ATF officials involved in the “Fast and Furious” scandal. But good luck with all that.

    Black Death

    September 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

  2. I really enjoy Lion’s recent pace of blogposting, glad to see him inspired.

    Fiddlesticks

    September 19, 2017 at 10:01 am

  3. I think they want him to say something nasty about Trump. Trump is the real goal in all of this, not Manafort.

    By the way, did anyone else catch Sean Spicer on the Emmys? Why did he appear in a show celebrating the very people who are the worst of our society?

    And today I heard that scaramucci appears on the gossip show TMZ. Mooch claimed that the reason why Gisele Bundchen wouldn’t allow Tom Brady to go to the White House was because Brady used to date Ivanka. But that’s b*******. She didn’t want Brady to be sullied by association with Trump.

    Trump is really a leper now. And a lot of it is his own fault.

    gothamette

    September 19, 2017 at 10:19 am

    • Mooch is reportedly banging Kimberly Guilfoyle. Life is good for him.

      B.T.D.T.

      September 19, 2017 at 2:23 pm

      • Mnuchin’s wife is way hotter. Not that we should admire middle-aged men who bag young trophy wives, it’s not Christian.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 19, 2017 at 2:52 pm

  4. There are reports that Manafort was under surveillance long before he joined the Trump campaign because of his work in Ukraine.

    Manafort was apparently secretly paid large sums of money for his work for Viktor Yanukovych, the pro-Russian leader of Ukraine who was forced out in 2014. It looks like Manafort was paid through bank accounts in Cyprus and then transferred the money to Caribbean shell companies. It appears those shell companies bought Manhattan real estate which was then transferred into Manafort’s name.

    There are reports that Manafort had borrowed money from a Russian oligarch for which he had done business before. Manafort also apparently wanted to work on the Trump’s campaign very badly. He offered to work for free. Paul Manafort simply never works for “free”. Some people suspect that all or part of that loan was forgiven by the oligarch in return for Manafort’s work on the Trump campaign.

    Manafort is almost certainly guilty of some money laundering offense so he looks like a good target.

    Carter Page, who Trump named as a foreign policy adviser during the campaign, was also certainly under surveillance long before the Trump campaign. In 2014 Page was the subject of a FISA warrant because two Russian spies had been tapped discussing recruiting Carter Page as a Russian informant. Page was probably still under surveillance during the campaign.

    mikeca

    September 19, 2017 at 10:40 am

    • “Pro-Russian leader … who was forced out” obscures some real history. Yanukovych was the legitimate, democratically elected president od Ukraine, the only one they have ever had (Poroshenko sure isn’t), and he was forced out by a coup d’etat supported, if not instigated, by the US.

      Bob Sykes

      September 19, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    • What Manafort and Page did in 2014 is irrelevant.

      Trump announced his candidacy in summer of 2015 when almost everyone thought he had no chance to win the primary, let alone the general election.

      Unless they can tie his advisors actions to something that happened on the campaign at best you are left with some tax and lobbying violations that are legally isolated to Manafort.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2017 at 3:05 pm

  5. Repubs congress should be shouting foul over this fishing expedition but they wont because they are the stupid party.

    Dan

    September 19, 2017 at 11:45 am

    • Careerists.

      Curle

      September 19, 2017 at 3:52 pm

  6. The Dailer Caller has Roger Stone, Manafort’s partner, as stating that Manafort won’t cave because “we Italians” are tough. I had no idea either Manafort or Stone was Italian, though I can sort of see it in Manafort’s face.

    mel belli

    September 19, 2017 at 11:55 am

  7. It is a witch hunt that is going on from the information I have seen. Russia interference was less than other countries who openly interfer all the time. Is it interference for carlos slim to have interest in the nyt? Is it interference for illegal aliens to campaign to help elect democrats?

    SEAN C

    September 19, 2017 at 12:02 pm

  8. Trump UN speech is extremely powerful. I can’t believe he is a bozo as everyone of the people around me in France, professional school graduates, think. I loose lot of credit among people by defending Trump here …

    Bruno

    September 19, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    • I haven’t seen it or read about it yet, but if it was great, that means Stephen Miller wrote it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 19, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      • Stephen Miller is amazing. I’m glad he’s on our side. I read an interesting thing, Don’t know if it’s true, But apparently his family kind of fell on hard times growing up. So he was exposed to all the wonders of diversity. There’s nothing like a big dose of reality. That’s why people who grew up privileged end up lefties It’s not because they’re smarter. It’s because they’re spoiled.

        Reminds me of something Robert Downey Jr said prison curing him of being a liberal.
        http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/28/robert-downey-on-being-pestered-about-being-not-liberal-i-wish-i-had-left-sooner/

        destructure

        September 19, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      • Read James Woods Twitter stream. He’s very woke.

        gothamette

        September 19, 2017 at 6:40 pm

      • Miller’s parents’ hometown of Johnstown, PA has suffered immensely during his lifetime, which he saw whenever he visited his grandparents there. But AFAICT his family has always been well-off.

        I’m kind of similar, having seen (semi-)firsthand the continuous, soul-crushing decline every time I visit my mom’s side of the family in Winter’s Bone country.

        I’d guess some exposure to how the other half lives is a common theme with us SWPL traitors to our class.

        snorlaxwp

        September 19, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      • Isn’t it telling that the only Trumpist left is the speechwriter? I guess he’s technically a policy adviser too but he has no influence there. The only area where you see his fingerprints are in Trump’s bullshit speeches.

        Magnavox

        September 19, 2017 at 11:51 pm

      • Lion is right 🙂

        Maggie Debberman (the excellent journalist) from the NYT explains Steven Miller wrote the speech.

        It starts minutes 13. She is interviewed by Michael Barbaro :

        https://www.nytimes.com/?mcubz=3

        Bruno

        September 20, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    • It was a great speech for the military industrial complex and Israel.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    • He doesn’t write his own speeches. You know that, right?

      Magnavox

      September 19, 2017 at 4:24 pm

      • He was only stating the obvious. It is our policy to wipe out North Korea if they act up. Everyone knows that. So don’t clutch your pearls and act all shocked.

        gothamette

        September 19, 2017 at 6:39 pm

      • As if obama wrote his own speeches, you anklebiting faggot

        driveallnight

        September 19, 2017 at 7:38 pm

  9. It’s the usual process of prosecution in America: You pick a target and then investigate everyone around him, collect his records, indict his associates and family, tap his phones, and eventually you’ll build a case against him. Actually figuring out what you’re going to charge him with can wait till the end. Once you ruin and terrify his partners enough they’ll produce something that fits some part of the criminal code. Plenty of people go to jail for technical and unintentional offenses and it’s certain that plenty of people your target works with have done enough to warrant an indictment on one or two technical violations.

    Even if you can’t really convict anyone, it costs millions to properly defend a complicated federal criminal case and you can freeze the assets of anyone you can indict, so they’ll have to depend on public defenders. That should get some informers to agree to testify to any and all the accusations you decide to make up in the end.

    Guilt is irrelevent.

    And that’s why we abolished the special prosecutor statute. A wise Trump would have fired Mueller right away. Instead, Trump is now at the mercy of Mueller and his allies.

    And Trump isn’t going to have the support of his base anymore now that he’s gone full ¡Jeb! on immigration. If Trump really signs a DACA amnesty as he is promising, I hope Mueller nails him to the wall and leaves Trump penniless and jailed.

    owentt

    September 19, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    • “A wise Trump would have fired Mueller right away.”

      A wise Trump would not have fired Comey. As Steve Bannon said, the firing of Comey was the biggest mistake in modern political history.

      Trump is old enough to know what happened after the Saturday Night Massacre.

      mikeca

      September 19, 2017 at 4:09 pm

      • People here gauge somethings desirability by how much it pisses off the media. They’ve lost any other grounding in reality besides a resentment of the cultural elite.

        Magnavox

        September 19, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    • As Mooch said, Bannon is sucking his own dick.

      Firing Comey was a great move by Trump.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2017 at 4:32 pm

  10. i like jeff sessions, but trump is 100% correct about how sessions botched this russia stuff. he never should have recused himself, or appointed a special prosecutor. mueller has nothing, because nothing happened, but he’s going to ruin multiple people’s lives.

    • How dumb was Trump to hire someone being investigated for his ties to the Russian government? About as dumb as he was for firing Comey.

      Magnavox

      September 19, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      • Having ties to the Russian government isn’t illegal. John Podesta does work in that party of the world, and worked for Hillary/the DNC. You can’t be this dumb.

        Dsgntd_plyr

        September 20, 2017 at 6:37 am

      • How are you dumb enough to buy into the narrative that this is the justice department wiretapping Trump and not Trump hired someone being wiretapped and investigated (and who will possibly end up getting convicted).

        How dumb trump is for not being aware of the investigation I don’t know. But you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think hiring Manafort makes Trump look guilty and was a stupid move (just like firing Comey was).

        Magnavox

        September 21, 2017 at 12:58 am

  11. Mueller should be getting desperate if he’s smart, which he isn’t. Or rather, he is smart but is so arrogant he doesn’t see that he is running out of time.

    In March of next year, the campaign for the 2018 midterms kicks off. Mueller essentially has until then to find something on Trump because at that point everybody just starts worrying about re-election and no longer has any time to talk about Russia. Trump currently is not politically strong enough to fire Mueller, but the midterms are going to purge various establishment figures (Wicker, Corker, Flake, Heller plus a bunch of guys in the House) while adding Trumpists in both Houses. For the midterms I’m calling “66”: Republicans lose a net 6 seats in the House (all cucks while they add a few Trumpists) and gain a net 6 seats in the Senate. This will show decisively that Trump is not a drag on the GOP down ballot while also creating a much more Trumpist conference because so many GOPe’s will have retired, been primaried or lost re-election. That will give Trump the leverage he needs to fire Mueller.

    The question is, does the Left take Mueller’s firing lying down? I don’t think they do. I expect absolutely massive and violent protests. But that is what we want.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 19, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    • Mueller is trying to nail Manafort on tax violations years before he joined Trump’s campaign so that he can get him to squeal on election “collusion” with Russia. The problem is that Manafort has already handed over all the information he has to the investigation. If the investigators still haven’t found collusion then Manafort would have to lie and say there was collusion, which there was no evidence for. But why should Manafort do that when Trump can pardon him?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 19, 2017 at 3:08 pm

  12. Here is my list of Republican Senators who must be exterminated before Trumpists can take over the party:

    Alexander, Collins, Corker, Rubio, Murkowski, Flake, McCain, Tillis, Graham, Hatch, Heller, Hoeven, McConnell, Sasse, Wicker, Bennett and Isaacson

    That’s a total of 17. Should be able to annihilate them all over the next 12 years.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 19, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    • Flake, McCain, and Heller are going next year. Hatch and Wicker are potentially vulnerable in 2018, but the men popular enough to topple them don’t seem to be running.

      Senator Bennet is a Democrat. Unless you mean Bob Bennett who lost re-election in 2010 to a conservative.

      Some are saying Corker might retire.

      It’s very important to consider what candidates should run in MO, WV, ND, MT, and IN where Republicans will probably pick up seats. The establishment will want lots of lots of young McCain clones.

      owentt

      September 19, 2017 at 5:59 pm

      • I meant Gardner, not Bennett. And the Left will exterminate Gardner for us so we don’t need to worry about primarying him out. Similarly, the Collins is going to exterminate herself to run for Gov and cancer will be exterminating McCain for us.

        Otis the Sweaty

        September 19, 2017 at 6:52 pm

  13. “We now know that Manafort was wiretapped, so Trump was sort of correct when he tweeted about being wiretapped. At least one political associate was wiretapped.”

    He wasn’t just wiretapped. He was wiretapped while managing Trump’s campaign and living in Trump Tower. Trump was absolutely right — they wiretapped HIM even if it wasn’t his name on the secret warrant.

    And to think they called Trump a liar when he said they wiretapped him.They were the ones who lied.
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    Manafort is 68 years old and burning through cash on lawyers to defend against this witch hunt, Even if he’s innocent and eventually cleared he’ll still be left broke and in debt. I don’t think I’d let them bleed me dry like that. I would have probably hidden all my papers somewhere, clammed up and let the chips fall where they may. I’d sooner go to prison so my family would get my money.

    destructure

    September 19, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    • Trump won’t let manafort starve.

      Manafort can also probably countersue later and get some money back but the real losers then are the tax payers.

      Justice will be for Mueller to die penniless and destitute under a bridge being spat on by a litany of red state visitors.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      September 19, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    • He was wiretapped before he was associated with Trump. Read David Stockman.

      gothamette

      September 19, 2017 at 6:36 pm

  14. “Why is Paul Manafort being indicted?”

    Counter-Revolutionary tendencies.

    Curle

    September 19, 2017 at 3:56 pm

  15. David Stockman has a lot to say about this.

    gothamette

    September 19, 2017 at 6:36 pm


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