Lion of the Blogosphere

HBD and North Korea

The NY Times reports that there is amazement that North Korea can manufacture its own rocket fuel. It was previously thought they were getting it from Russia or China.

But I am not amazed. As I already explained, North Koreans have genetically high IQ, we must not put North Korea into the same category as crappy low-IQ third-world countries in Africa or the Middle East.

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It’s HBD denialism which got us into this mess. It was assumed that a crappy third-world-level economy means a nation can’t produce advanced weapons.

Actually, it’s low genetic IQ which means that a nation can’t produce advanced weapons. Low genetic IQ also means that a nation is doomed to have a crappy third-world-level economy, but when we have a nation like North Korea, where the crappy economy is caused by the Korean War + trade embargoes + communism + extremely bad government, they still have the genetic IQ needed to produce advanced weapons.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 28, 2017 at 10:41 AM

Posted in Biology

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  1. Not only high IQ, but higher TFR than IQ shredder South Korea. Which means that in the future, the norks will probably be higher IQ than the south koreans.


    September 28, 2017 at 10:48 AM

    • Total fertility rate and eugenic/dysgenic fertility are totally different matters.


      September 28, 2017 at 11:17 AM

  2. Well the Narrative goes that wealth creates ability. So they look at North Korea with bewilderment.

    Though I admit this isn’t what I suspected the content of this post would be when I saw the title. 🙂


    September 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM

  3. Their high IQ is also why I think North Korea will turn out fine. There will be tensions, sure, but soon enough the current regime will be toppled, and North and South Korea will merge much like Germany did 25 years ago. The North will be a back backwards at first, and their poor nutrition will give them slightly lower IQs in the short run, but eventually it will become another prosperous Asian tiger. Whereas Syria or Tunisia or even Turkey will never really be “okay”, as their low-to-very-low average IQs will always hold them back from becoming normal, prosperous, productive countries.


    September 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM

    • “soon enough the current regime will be toppled”

      Hasn’t been toppled since the Korean War, it’s not ever going to be toppled.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 28, 2017 at 11:15 AM

      • Nothing lasts forever.


        September 28, 2017 at 1:53 PM

      • But some things can last a really long time. The Kim dynasty could be like the Roman Empire.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 28, 2017 at 2:17 PM

      • I think it will be toppled, and soon, and the younger North Koreans will totally applaud the change. It took China and South Korea until the 1980s or even 1990s to start getting their shit together economically, so just because N.Korea is a few decades behind, that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. The MSN tells us that N.Koreans are all brainwashed, but that’s nonsense, as the (young) N.Koreans get all kinds of info & media from China and elsewhere, and thus they’re keenly aware that their country is a 3rd-world laughing stock compared to their other northern Asian neighbors, and they don’t like it. When the thin layer of evil and weirdly hostile N.Korean leadership at the top gets deposed / taken out, millions of young and high-IQ N.Koreans will eagerly agree to a merger with S.Korea so as to enjoy some semblance of a normal life (just as happened in Germany). Yet, unlike high-IQ countries like the Koreas or Germany, the Arab Spring countries have uniformly low average IQs (about 82 or so), so the picture that the MSM painted there was also a completely bogus one, but in the opposite direction: they want us to think that young hipster Arab Spring revolutionaries are “just like us”, when in fact those young, middle-class, IQ-110ish Tunisians and Algerians with iPhones and centrist political opinions are just a tiny minority in a vast sea of typically low-IQ Arabic backwardness. Again, I’m confident that N.Korea will turn out fine, and its sudden post-Kim transition will happen very soon, probably kick-started by Trump’s desire to get the N.Korean problem sorted out.


        September 28, 2017 at 3:59 PM

      • Chetty, by all accounts you aren’t channeling what young North Koreans think. You’re posting about what you wish they thought.


        September 28, 2017 at 6:21 PM

      • “Nothing lasts forever”.

        This statement is a bit inane. I’ve yet to be able to predict a scenario that would enable anyone to either overcome NK’s army, by any means other than nukes (and then rooting out the holdouts over years), or to assimilate the NK population.

        As it stands, unless they plan to murder the majority of the populace, and the obvious general undesirability of the government aside, I’m unsure if anyone really wants to topple NK and deal with all of what that would follow in the aftermath.

        Who is going to take responsibility for 25 million uneducated, probably psychologically damaged, and brainwashed (read: still hostile and possibly a national security threat if you aren’t a communist country) North Koreans?

        Not South Korea, for the most part. Its economy couldn’t handle it. How would they be able to politically justify refusing re-assimilation afterward? They’d be stuck between an completely impractical option (assimilation) and a politically impossible option (refusal). Not Russia. Not Japan. Not the US. Maybe China, but would they?

        This is an issue that should be seriously taken into consideration before any opinion as to the when and how of a hypothetical NK dissolution should be taken seriously, because I think that any possibility or method of that scenario would be foremost driven by it.


        September 29, 2017 at 12:15 PM

    • I doubt it will last forever but I don’t see it going anywhere anytime soon.


      September 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM

    • North Korea is one of the few countries standing up to Western liberal democracy. May they live forever.


      September 28, 2017 at 12:17 PM

      • Really? It’s just a little snake controlled by the Chinese, whenever it plays hardball with America.


        September 28, 2017 at 2:50 PM

  4. Pakistan has nukes. High IQ?


    September 28, 2017 at 11:56 AM

    • “China, a staunch ally of Pakistan’s, provided blueprints for the bomb, as well as highly enriched uranium, tritium, scientists and key components for a nuclear weapons production complex, among other crucial tools. ‘Without China’s help, Pakistan’s bomb would not exist’ said Gary Milhollin, a leading expert on the spread of nuclear weapons.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 28, 2017 at 12:17 PM

      • According to Lion north Korea doesnt even have a high I just a “genetically high one”. It’s amazing the way those uranium atoms will look into the scientists dna and determine what their iq could have been without all the starvation and brainwashing before they decide whether they’ll split the way they’re supposed to or not.

        Either that or they also got help from China, their patron state, and the hypothetical iq that the north Korean scientists would have had in an different society isn’t actually relevant.

        Or Lion should make the most of his argument and say that the high genetic I makes it easier to foster the kind of non starved non brainwashed minority cognitive elite required to work on bombs and missiles.


        September 28, 2017 at 8:58 PM

    • the top 5% of paks (when considering the population size) is enough smart people to maintain a nuke arsenal.

      Simba of the Blogosphere

      September 28, 2017 at 4:24 PM

  5. The fact that South Africa could make nuclear weapons should have been a clue.

    JW Bell

    September 28, 2017 at 12:33 PM

  6. Listening to NPR a few weeks ago they mentioned that North Korea and Haiti have similar GDP’s. What a difference a few IQ points make!

    Mike Street Station

    September 28, 2017 at 12:38 PM

    • But Haiti is such a beautiful island!


      September 28, 2017 at 12:55 PM

  7. Let’s say that building a nuke requires 500 people with a minimum IQ of 120. Sure, its easier to find these people in a country with a higher average IQ, but even low IQ countries like Iran have at least hundreds of thousands with an IQ over 120.


    September 28, 2017 at 1:36 PM

    • It would likely take a lot more than that. Like the rough IQ measurement itself, professional aptitude (and willingness / ability to train) is a numbers game. So is the relatively-lower high IQ support population needed to maintain technology. Its unlikely that a nation would pull what it needed to build nuclear weapons out of a population of 500 120 IQ people.

      African nations have people with 130 IQ (maxed out in the Black Race’s second or third standard deviation). Breed enough, and that number goes up. They still aren’t going to be able to reliably build and maintain high technology. A nation pretty much requires a healthy gradual slope of IQ among its population. That is, luckily for us and unluckily for them, the numbers aren’t hardy enough in the second standard deviation, in spite of arcing over that 120 IQ mark. Then add the socioeconomic and civic albatross of the lower IQ population that erodes financial support, the security environment, etc.

      NK’s population doesn’t have these disadvantages that we know of (assuming no great dysgenic effect of three or four generations under communist rule and poverty).


      September 29, 2017 at 12:25 PM

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