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Exercise CAUSES heart disease

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319781.php

For real. Specifically, exercise significantly increases the risk of coronary artery calcification (CAC), a condition characterized by a buildup of plaque in the main vessels that supply blood to the heart.

So the message that “you got a heart attack because you were too lazy to exercise” turns out to have been fake news.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 18, 2017 at 2:06 pm

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  1. That is, endurance exercise like jogging, which it’s increasingly clear is quite bad for you, especially if you’re a man and especially if you’re middle-aged or older. Keeping fit with weight training or similar is good for your health (as well as mood and obviously attractiveness) as long as you avoid extreme training or diet regimens and steroids.

    snorlaxwp

    October 18, 2017 at 2:19 pm

  2. The issue is chronic over-exercise, not exercise per se. There is a ton of research on this that goes back ages and is well understood. People think that athletes are healthy. They’re not. Olympians have screwed up hormone profiles and a tendency to get cavities. Endurance athletes develop cardiac arrhythmia. You’ll also notice the regular amateur marathon runners and daily weight lifters going bald young.

    A proper “exercise for health” regimen looks like five miles walked at an easy pace daily, and one difficult 45 minute weight lifting session per week. Something like this will extend your life. But type-A masochists are prone to think grinding out difficult workouts as often as possible is healthful.

    bobbybobbob

    October 18, 2017 at 3:05 pm

  3. Well exercise over 7.5 hours per week. Not any amount of exercise.

    I’d suspect that this is part of the explanation for the marathoning deaths that the media is uncomfortable in reporting on.

    Lion of the Turambar

    October 18, 2017 at 3:05 pm

  4. You’re overreading this. This is just one study; it’s fake news to report on this at all unless there are independent studies which replicate the results.

    Second, the results don’t point the finger at “exercise” for causing heart problems. The group of people who had higher rates of heart disease were those who exercised at least three times the recommended hourly guidelines per week. So far as I could tell, there’s no reason to think that people who exercised a reasonable amount of time were under any increased risk.

    Richard

    October 18, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    • I was going to say that you were over-reaching trying to undermine the study,

      But on further examination here may be a couple of issues:
      http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(17)30577-3/fulltext

      They started with 5100 subjects in 1986 and ended up in 2011 including data from 3100 subjects. The resulting demographics: “47.4% were black and 56.6% were women”. I didnt see the initial demographics anywhere but the disproportional final result could mean that more white men dropped out of the study. Like the guys who had a real career going on dropped out and didnt get included.

      Also I question the statistical significance of the results. A study with N=3000 sounds fine, but then you get down to the high exercise group (which also includes a job with manual labor) there are very few people left:

      white men: 108
      black men: 99
      white women: 47
      black women: 14

      I’d question the statistical validity of a sub sample of 14 people.

      Also consider that its consistent with the study construction that all of the white college educated male joggers dropped out because they can no longer be bothered with the minimal reward offered for follow up and the ones who stayed in were the SES manual laborers who drank when they got off their roofing job and had poor life styles.

      Lion o' the Turambar

      October 19, 2017 at 9:30 am

      • The larger problem is that the media keeps hyping up these solitary studies with no attempt to put them in context with the larger body of research out there. I read the article; the journalist who wrote it has no idea what else is out there on the subject. Reports like these are pushed onto the general public with the imprimatur of “Science,” but science is really a process of testing and re-testing hypotheses to determine whether they hold up to independent scrutiny. The media should be responsible enough to realize the distinction — what is and isn’t report-worthy. It’s like saying you have a ladder when the only thing in your hand is an unattached rung.

        Richard

        October 19, 2017 at 2:36 pm

      • I believe they started with about equal numbers of blacks and whites. From your link

        “… with population-based samples approximately balanced within center by sex, age (18-24 years and 25-30 years), race (white or black), and educational level (high school or less or higher than high school). …”

        James B. Shearer

        October 19, 2017 at 11:12 pm

  5. There is zero evidence that exercise leads to better outcome vs. normal non-special-exercise lifestyle. Just like there is zero evidence that realistic degree of second hand smoking leads to anything bad. I went through available scientific literature on both topics. It is not impressive.

    My Two Cents

    October 18, 2017 at 3:48 pm

  6. Almost guaranteed study did not control for type of exercise. At >7.5 hrs/wk and no similar effect for black men, they were seeing the results of high-carb diets and low-intensity aerobic exercise. (AKA Jogging/Marathons is a SWPL activity.)

    For years now people in the low-carb sphere have been saying 1) you can’t outrun a bad diet 2) low-intensity aerobics are at best a waste of time and more often detrimental to health since they wear down muscle mass and cause people to eat even more unhealthy carbs than they ordinarily would.

    You should give PD Mangan a follow. He’s old-skool Sailerite.

    ~~~
    BTW, do you get on twitter, or just have it set-up to notify followers when new posts are sent?

    Portlander

    October 18, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    • Anyone going on about low carb or sugar is an idiot. Trust me.

      bobbybobbob

      October 18, 2017 at 11:58 pm

      • I agree, it’s idiotic to go on and on about it because it’s very simple: Low-carb diet = weight loss, high-carb diet = weight gain. Doner.

        hard9bf

        October 19, 2017 at 6:07 pm

      • Wrong. You’re an idiot.

        bobbybobbob

        October 19, 2017 at 11:35 pm

      • “Anyone going on about low carb or sugar is an idiot. Trust me.”

        You don’t know what you’re talking about.

        RaceRealist

        October 25, 2017 at 2:29 am

  7. From the article you linked to:

    “filled in questionnaires reporting their levels of physical activity on at least three of these occasions.”

    If the study is based on self-reporting, it’s not very reliable. That said, I don’t doubt that excessive exercise is unhealthy.

    fortaleza84

    October 18, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    • “If the study is based on self-reporting”

      Should they have had cameras follow them around for 25 years to make sure they were telling the truth?

      RaceRealist

      October 25, 2017 at 2:29 am

  8. I dunno. Counterintuitive to anything I know. Doesn’t make sense. My mother is 93 takes no medication and never has taken any medication, her pulse is 57-58. I’m 58 have never taken any medication and my pulse is 50.

    Look, when I was in Rikers they gave me the best physical on my life at the taxpayers expense. But when they took my pulse or a cardiogram, I don’t remember now, the stupid NAM nurse wanted to hospitalized me because my pulse 50. LOLZ! So I had to explain to her that for boxers and runners this is normal. I think the article is fake science. All I know that if I just sat around and noshed junk and watched TV, I would have been six feet under ground by now. This is very simple.

    Stop making excuses and obfuscating. Go to a gym or to a park and exercise already. Do this experiment for us and tell us how you feel after a month.

    Yakov

    October 18, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    • Low pulse is a proxy for hypothyroidism and anticipates heart disease and cancer. Body temperature plus pulse rate correlates very strongly with resting metabolism. Measurements of metabolism in turn correlate with IQ and longevity.

      A sub 60 bpm pulse is not good. It is indicative of chronic stress, or over-training. I have had a sub 60 resting pulse and found at the time I was prone to anxiety and poor sleep. 70+ is good.

      If you are training for an athletic goal, pulse and temperature measurements first thing in the morning are a good way to check if you’re over-training. The lower the pulse the better to take a day or two off.

      bobbybobbob

      October 19, 2017 at 12:07 am

      • Now this is interesting, but I remember this as a gospel truth from my childhood in Russia that endurance athletes have low pulse because they have strong hearts. The information overload can get very confusing.

        Yakov

        October 19, 2017 at 7:52 am

    • You were in Rikers? Do tell.

      gothamette

      October 19, 2017 at 6:40 pm

  9. But chicks will always go for mister 6-pack over the normal looking guy. This study seems like propaganda against the alt-right because the alt-right says “If you want chicks you need to work out or you are a loser”. It seems to be kinda working. Plus, if the the enemies of the left are all fit guys then it is bad optics.

    NotWesley

    October 18, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    • While many alt right guys may be into lifting, most fit guys aren’t enemies of the left. They tend to be politically apathtic.

      I laugh when I see MGTOW websites promote lifting. These guys have given up on girls yet are committed bodybuilders. Why even go through the trouble then? They are doing exactly what they think girls want

      Jay Fink

      October 19, 2017 at 4:06 am

    • “This study seems like propaganda against the alt-right”

      If you only read shitty news headlines, yea. If you read the actual paper, no.

      RaceRealist

      October 25, 2017 at 2:32 am

  10. Article does not detail what kind of exercise. Resistance training? Intense cardio (sprints, etc.). Long distance running? Need more info.

    Daniel

    October 18, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    • From the paper:

      At each of the 8 examinations, self-reported leisure-time PA was ascertained by the interviewer-administered CARDIA Physical Activity History Questionnaire.17 Participants were asked about the frequency of participation in 13 specific categories (8 vigorous intensity and 5 moderate intensity) of recreational sports, exercise, home maintenance, and occupational activities during the previous 12 months. Intensity for each activity was expressed as metabolic equivalents (METs), in which 1 MET is defined as the energy expended at rest, which is approximately equivalent to an oxygen consumption of 3.5 mL per 1 kg of body weight per minute.18Vigorous activities (≥6 METs) included running or jogging; racquet sports; biking; swimming; exercise or dance class; job lifting, carrying, or digging; shoveling or lifting during leisure; and strenuous sports. Moderate-intensity activities (3-5 METs) included nonstrenuous sports, walking and hiking, golfing and bowling, home exercises or calisthenics, and home maintenance or gardening.19 Each activity was scored according to whether it was performed for 1 hour or longer during any 1 month during the past year, the number of months it was performed at that level, and the number of months the activity was performed frequently. Each activity was then assigned an intensity score, ranging from 3 to 8 METs, and a duration threshold (ranging from 2-5 hours per week), above which participation was considered to be frequent.20

      RaceRealist

      October 25, 2017 at 2:31 am

  11. Exercise CAUSES heart disease

    Excessive exercise.

    Zero exercise also leads to heart disease.

    Moderation, Lion, moderation.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 18, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    • Exactly! The study is finding problems in individuals who train more than 7.5 hours/week. That is a lot! Even when I was seriously marathon training and qualified for Boston, I put in about 5 hours of running per week. (I do about half that amount now and have mixed it up with weight lifting.)

      The 7.5 hour/week folks are doing three times the recommended level of exercise.

      dbp

      October 19, 2017 at 10:31 am

    • I put in about 5 hours of running per week. (I do about half that amount now and have mixed it up with weight lifting.)

      Lion should have taken a whack at marathon runners instead of foolishly criticizing all exercise.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 19, 2017 at 2:08 pm

  12. So in other words a “study” conducted by a Desi and underwritten by two massively black institutions, UIC and Kaiser/Oakland, overcome your common sense?

    Marty

    October 18, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    • UIC is massively black? Try about 5% black

      GorillaHilla

      October 18, 2017 at 11:30 pm

      • Any institution whose web page features an imprecation to “VALUE DIVERSITY” is not going to be only 5% black.

        Marty

        October 19, 2017 at 10:14 am

  13. actually the authors say it doesn’t cause heart disease in blacks or women and that the connection between CAC and heart attacks should be investigated further. they also say that CAC is the most stable form of arterial plaque, the least likely to rupture and cause a heart attack.

    ron burgundy

    October 18, 2017 at 6:05 pm

  14. it is merely associated with CAC in white men. so there must be some white men who aren’t affected, just as women and blacks weren’t affected. one possibility is something called “exercise induced hypertension”. running increases bp, but in some people it increases it to a dangerous level.

    ron burgundy

    October 18, 2017 at 6:08 pm

  15. Very poorly designed study.
    It also claimed that black men in the same age range don’t suffer the negative consequences of exercise.
    So, the take away is… white men should just stay on the couch and stuff their faces with beer and chips unto oblivion.
    Color me suspicious.

    Dave

    October 18, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    • “Very poorly designed study.”

      No it isn’t.

      “It also claimed that black men in the same age range don’t suffer the negative consequences of exercise.”

      excessive exercise, which the authors noted to be 7.5 hours a week.

      “So, the take away is… white men should just stay on the couch and stuff their faces with beer and chips unto oblivion.”

      No…

      Dr. Deepika Laddu: “it does not suggest that anyone should stop exercising.”

      Do people read articles or only headlines?

      RaceRealist

      October 25, 2017 at 2:36 am

  16. Just 50 years ago NOBODY ran for fun. The modern fitness trend is more about looks than anything else. All the low-fat heart-healthy advice is one of the worst possible diets. Atkins was right.

    JW Bell

    October 18, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    • hardly anyone exercised 50 years ago (but they moved more) and yet people looked a lot better than today. Even the fit guys everyone celebrates today would have looked like freaks to the people 50 yeard ago and they would have been right.

      Jay Fink

      October 19, 2017 at 3:42 am

  17. Of course, this particular study is useless as it’s a standard correlational study.

    That said, yes, conventional health advice is a bunch of bullpuckies (for the same reason). Genetic factors are primarily responsible for health differences.

    JayMan

    October 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    • you’re either lying or you just know nothing. which is it?

      age at death is not heritable. it may be there are a few very long lived or very short lived families, but these families are so few that they don’t affect the calculation.
      The heritability of longevity was estimated to be 0.26 for males and 0.23 for females.
      that is, like alcoholism, basically not heritable, despite the din of propaganda, folk wisdom, and lies.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8786073

      there are many risk factors for heart attack. one of them is family history. but only one. almost all cancers are sporadic. cancer and heart attack make up more than 50% of causes of death in the US. some other common causes are diabetes, pneumonia, accident, suicide, stroke, etc. of these only diabetes risk seems to be higher for some families.

      ron burgundy

      October 19, 2017 at 12:30 am

      • After all these years, it’s surprising that stupid comments like this keep coming up, though it shouldn’t be.

        0.26 > 0, right. Lifespan is heritable like all things. Indeed that’s the First Law of behavioral genetics.

        You understand that correlational studies can’t show causation, right? In good part because of the Fifth Law of behavioral genetics (All human phenotypic relationships are genetically confounded or mediated).

        Cancer indeed has a low (but not zero) heritability. But we’re not talking about cancer are we?

        It’s interesting when you have a commenter who clearly doesn’t understand what they’re saying.

        JayMan

        October 19, 2017 at 7:55 am

      • “you’re either lying or you just know nothing. which is it?”

        My guess is that he’s a fat apologist/fat acceptance type. And that like most of these people with a little knowledge, he loves to chant “correlation is not causation” to avoid facing the uncomfortable reality that his food and exercise choices are increasing his mortality and health risks.

        fortaleza84

        October 19, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    • Of course, this particular study is useless as it’s a standard correlational study.

      i fear that may not have been a joke.

      the statistic “heritability” is a correlation. no more no less. yet you take heritability as a measure of what genes CAUSE. there is basically no HBD “science” which is not just correlations. even steve “china uber alles” hsu has admitted that if there’s any cause to be found it must be “many genes of small effect”.
      they haven’t been found. or rather what has been “found” thus far explains 1% of the variance.

      lies and ignorance from anti-HBDers are bad enough.

      ron burgundy

      October 19, 2017 at 12:41 am

      • The Fourth Law of behavioral genetics was made only for heredity deniers. We know genes heavily contribute to all phenotypes. That doesn’t mean we’ve identified the relevant genes, nor do we need to know their effect.

        It’s OK to use correlations in behavioral genetic research for a simple reason: the environment didn’t cause genes (at least not proximately).

        JayMan

        October 19, 2017 at 7:58 am

      • OMG Mugabe vs. Jayman. What a intellectual battle!

        Why exactly are you so hell-bent on disproving behavioral genetic studies?

        GondwanaMan

        October 19, 2017 at 9:39 am

      • Oh, is this what he’s calling himself now? I’ll just ignore him.

        JayMan

        October 19, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    • “Genetic factors are primarily responsible for health differences.”

      Another JayMan gem.

      This would explain why my aunts and uncles regularly lived past 90, and my cousins are dying off in their 60s.

      It’s called lifestyle, buddy.

      gothamette

      October 19, 2017 at 6:42 pm

      • Even if that was true, which it’s not, what causes variation in lifestyle?

        JayMan

        October 19, 2017 at 9:15 pm

      • Can you write proper English? Even if what were true?

        gothamette

        October 19, 2017 at 11:22 pm

    • Always fun seeing you talk about diet and exercise as if you know something about it.

      RaceRealist

      October 25, 2017 at 2:39 am

  18. “Over 7 hours a week” is a lot of exercise. That translates into significant cardio, which, yes, does calcify your arteries.

    Exercise a regular amount and you won’t die.

    Econobro

    October 18, 2017 at 8:02 pm

  19. i doubt this will ever be replicated, but maybe its explained to a degree by people who exercise a lot in order to lose weight but still eat tonnes of food anyway and feel validated in doing so bc they exercise. they are still overweight from overeating but think bc they exercise its ok.

    i think if theres any benefit from exercising at all its from the burnt calories not making you fat, but THAT ONLY MATTERS if those burnt calories arent being offset by more calories being consumed, which will just make you fat in the long run any way. 90% of all ‘health’ from nutrition and exercise probably comes just from not being overweight or obese. i really doubt that some skinny guy who eats at his baseline daily caloric requirements but doesnt exercise whatsoever is less healthy than a guy who exercises and does the same calorie wise. if anything given the damage exercise might do to the human body he might even be healthier.

    exercise is just the new middle class obligation. people do it for the sake of doing it. they go to the gym, do some exercise even if its not making any tangible difference to their bodily composition. its just something people do to be ‘healthy’, even if its probable most of its ‘health’ benefits are just coming from not being as fat, which can be achieved even more easily by not eating as much.

    james n.s.w

    October 18, 2017 at 9:43 pm

  20. Then I’ll live forever.

    njguy73

    October 18, 2017 at 9:47 pm

  21. Upon further review, I believe the post was meant to be satirical. Lion, sorry about that.

    njguy73

    October 18, 2017 at 9:53 pm

  22. This is actually good new for me, as I haven’t done real exercise in years.

    OT: Is the Lion going to have a post about Anthony Scaramucci’s new organization tweeting a question that seemed to be sympathetic to Holocaust deniers? The Mooch claims the post was put up by an assistant while he was away. He’s also apologized profusely for giving the wrong impression – and taken the tweet down If he had apologized like this for his “sucking his own _ock” remark he might still be White House Communications Director. Also, Mooch was on the view a few months ago and Mario Cantone appeared there, impersonating him. It was hilarious. Mooch’s parents were in the audience. Strange, because if I ever used the kind of language he used in public no member of my family would appear in public at any event with me. They’d be more likely to castigate me for making the family look bad and making Italians look like goombas. Apparently, Mama Scaramucci just enjoys seeing her boy in the spotlight regardless. But honestly, I’ve seen Italian kids take beatings from their parents for less than what Anthony did.

    maryk

    October 18, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    • maryk: I still have those last annoying 10 pounds hanging around. Every time I get into a good diet groove and lose some weight I go out and gain it all back!

      Exercise is totally overrated as a weight loss tool. The main thing is diet. There was even a professional ballerina who gained 35 pounds because she was bulimic.

      I am not a low carber strictly speaking but I do think that if you want to lose those last 10 pounds you should cut the carbs.

      gothamette

      October 20, 2017 at 9:58 am

  23. Meh. That study looks fishy. Especially the self-reported exercise levels.

    Also, it is not “exercise” that supposedly does it, but high levels of exercise; over 7.5 hours per week, which very very few people do.

    Tarl

    October 18, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    • Yeah, it would be pretty hard to find a statistically significant number of people who HONESTLY exercise more than an hour a day, every day.

      One interpretation of the studies is that liars are more likely to develop health problems.

      fortaleza84

      October 19, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    • I agree with the skepticism of self-reporting. There have been many myths of food intake exploded. When subjects are confined to metabolic wards guess what, eat less, lose weight.

      I remember reading about one woman who claimed she was eating only 800 calories a day and couldn’t lose weight. Every night she ate half a jar of peanut butter and didn’t report that. Her husband ratted her out.

      This study might indicate that if you are a white man who claims to exercise more than 7.5 hours a week, you are an uptight preachy jerk who was bound to have a heart attack anyway.

      gothamette

      October 20, 2017 at 10:02 am

  24. I remember during the jogging craze of the late 70s/early 80s it was common to hear of joggers dropping dead from heart attacks. It’s too much strain.

    Jay Fink

    October 18, 2017 at 10:56 pm

  25. Right…

    Whitey Whiteman, don’t exercise.

    Don’t trust minority scientists, especially when they forget that arteries will always tend to harden when you get older and that you can risk heart attacks just through physical exertion.

    map

    October 18, 2017 at 11:01 pm

  26. In my early 20s to early 30s, I spent about two hours per day lifting weights, and also could run a mile in under 5:00 minutes. I put on ten pounds of muscle on my slim frame and bulked up to 165 lbs. I’m over 50 now and do 45 minutes of weigh training and stretching each day, plus 30 minutes on the spinner bike. I do a fast 1-mile run followed by a few 100-yard sprints every third day. The ten pounds of extra muscle is gone, but I’m lean and toned. I think stretching is as important as all other exercise.

    E. Rekshun

    October 19, 2017 at 5:23 am

    • Mid-40s haven’t worked out in 5.5 years, try to walk a lot push ups on weekends eat a lot of fish drink alcohol free beer. Climb stairs.

      Ran cross country in high school, one friend stuck with it ran in college kept going all through life put on weight. Getting first hip replacement soon. Another guy got into rock climbing has a lot of shoulder problems now.

      They would both say it’s worth it no pain no gain but it seems like Nike Inc marketing.

      The Shepherd

      October 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

    • Slightly OT, I’ve never done any “working out,” just accepted whatever shape resulted from my regular basketball and swimming that I did for fun. But now in advanced middle age, I’m starting to do some weight work. The reason is this: I want to walk up to some young guy who has neck tattoos and ask him, ” do you have any idea how much money you’ve cost yohrself over tye next 40 years? “

      Explainer 21

      October 19, 2017 at 12:01 pm

      • LOL!

        E. Rekshun

        October 19, 2017 at 5:04 pm

  27. 7.5 hours of exercise per week is insane. Only athletes and genetic freaks like The Rock do that type of work.

    • ok, I just read the link:

      “High levels of exercise over time may cause stress on the arteries leading to higher CAC,” says paper co-author Dr. Jamal Rana, from the Kaiser Permanente, “however this plaque buildup may well be of the more stable kind, and thus less likely to rupture and cause heart attack, which was not evaluated in this study.”

      The new findings should not be taken as a reason to stop exercising, adds Dr. Laddu.

      Following this study, the researchers are planning to investigate the likelihood of different outcomes, such as the risk of experiencing a heart attack.

      The study authors conclude, “Collectively, these data suggest that the biological mechanisms associated with increased CAC and high levels of [physical activity] deserve further evaluation.”

      so:
      1. the CAC build-up isn’t necessarily bad
      2. exercise is good
      3. the study didn’t look at heart attacks
      4. genes might be more important than environment (exercise)

    • “7.5 hours of exercise per week is insane. ”

      The more exercise people claim to do, the more likely they are to be lying. I would guess that 70-80% of people who claim to do that amount of exercise are either flat out lying; exaggerating; or counting as exercise the fact that they got out of breath walking to the company vending machine and pulling open a bag of potato chips.

      fortaleza84

      October 19, 2017 at 3:57 pm

  28. If you don’t exercise, how to do our work off all your aggression and excess energy? I would be just attacking random people on the street. Can’t relax without it. This should be an evolutionary necessity. So I don’t understand all this sitting around and noshing. You need to be violent and exercise is a kosher way of doing so.

    Yakov

    October 19, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    • JayMan

      October 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    • You walk in Manhattan. I rarely spend my money on transportation.

      People who use gyms, are redundant like the workout machines, and those who jog are wasting their calories that could be use productively, like walking to work or some other function.

      You’re Jewish, and you do not appear to be resourceful and thrifty.

      JS

      October 19, 2017 at 9:41 pm

      • The only reason to go to a gym is if you are on a time draining career stint or are a parent of an infant, such that you have no time at all to play a sport. “Working Out” is gay. Everybody should be in a league for at least half the year. Soccer, boxing, softball, ping pong, 5k runs, criterium bike riding, racquetball, whatever. You should be on a team no matter your age and having fun and measuring yourself against competition, not acting like a tortured lab rat on machines.

        Anyway, I’ve found that bodyweight stuff and a jump rope gets you what you need in terms of equipment. No real reason to pay a scammy gym. I have an old backpack and throw in some plastic orange juice bottles containing sand + a bit of concrete and water. Do some push-ups, pull-ups, pistol squats, and dips and you’re set. Learn how to do double-unders with a speed jump rope.

        bobbybobbob

        October 20, 2017 at 12:23 am

      • But I’m happy being myself and that’s what counts, not having people think that I’m resourceful and thrifty. You can rest your case.

        Yakov

        October 20, 2017 at 12:53 am

  29. I’m a mid 40s female who picks and chooses advice from people like Dr. Dukan, Dennis Mangan, Cate Shanahan, AJA Cortes, Pat Flynn.

    My routine used to be 80% cardio, 20% strength training, but now it’s 70% Bikram Yoga, 20% strength training (body weight stuff, kettlebells), 10% low impact cardio (walking outdoors, or on an incline in a treadmill). It’s maybe 6 hours a week, total. Exercise keeps me out of trouble, and helps me go to sleep. But really, I’m just vain and want to keep my weight low.

    I started laying off the cardio when I read an interview with Manhattan plastic surgeon Gerald Imber who said that running aged faces, and the owner of the aerobics dance studio I used to frequent sent a pro Black Lives Matter email to her entire clientele.

    The gym in my building’s basement has a reliable mechanical scale, but I wish there was an easy drop-in place in NYC where I could get a DEXA scan reading for body fat percentages.

    Christine

    October 19, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    • You have a good program for a girl.

      Yakov

      October 19, 2017 at 7:48 pm

  30. I recently started a new job where I have to walk around a warehouse all shift. I thought I was in good shape, but the first few weeks were tough, until I adapted to it. When not working, I try to get in a brisk walk every day, just a couple miles, with one day off per week to rest. On the other hand, my older brother runs and bicycles a lot, and competes in several marathons every year. He might be one of those guys who is overdoing the whole exercise thing.

    Yankee

    October 19, 2017 at 5:49 pm

  31. This is great news! Since white men are hardest hit by CAC, the fakestream media and White Genocide Party (Democrats) will encourage whites to exercise as long and hard as possible.

    hard9bf

    October 19, 2017 at 6:04 pm

  32. Exercise is about the adaptation that occurs in recovery, not the exercise itself. People forget that, which causes them to think that the more exercise they do the better. That’s not the case, and one hour per day of any exercise is likely far too much unless you are 18 years old. It likely represses adaptation and recovery instead of provoking it.

    Figure out stress, which has to do with system energy, and plug that insight into stress-exercise/recovery perspective to figure out that doing wind-sprints for 5 minutes per day is the best cardio that you can do (try suicide sprints). Short-time high-ish intensity weightlifting is also good, but in terms of system energy (vs muscle growth) the high intensity workouts pretty much just mimic the metabolic / anaerobic effects of windsprints, except not as good. Though, that’s not to say that it isn’t good.

    Dan

    October 20, 2017 at 2:29 am


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