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GWB cucks to the media

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/19/full-text-george-w-bush-speech-trump-243947

I liked ex-President GWB better when he was staying out of the public spotlight and sticking to his cheesy oil paintings. (Jamie Johnson’s dad is the better artist, too bad we never saw his paintings in the movie. Jamie’s uncle Seward Johnson II is an interesting sculptor/artist.)

We’ve seen nationalism distorted into nativism – forgotten the dynamism that immigration has always brought to America.

As much as I am disappointed in Trump for being so unpresidential since taking office, he’s a much better president than GWB. He gave us Jeff Sessions, Neil Gorsuch (and not Harriet Miers), and GWB’s open-borders younger brother Jeb never would have beaten HRC anyway. Only Trump could have won Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 20, 2017 at 9:26 am

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  1. are people buying this attempt at elder statesmen type posturing? its sad how fast everyone seems to forget millions of dead people. killing millions of ppl now isnt as bad as being racist, unless you kill millions of ppl bc of racism (hitler).

    james n.s.w

    October 20, 2017 at 9:30 am

    • I don’t think there are millions of dead people. A few hundred thousand, tops.

      And correct, no one really cares about hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis. There are lots of other corpse piles that are bigger, more interesting, closer, more relevant, and/or have more compelling villains behind them.

      I wonder if the Bushes still think Jeb can be brought back. Do they realize how finished he is? Even if the cucks take back the party, they also know how finished he is.

      Wency

      October 20, 2017 at 11:03 am

    • Yep. Bush II is still Satan.

      GondwanaMan

      October 20, 2017 at 2:46 pm

  2. ‘Our identity as a nation – unlike many other nations – is not determined by geography or ethnicity, by soil or blood. Being an American involves the embrace of high ideals and civic responsibility. We become the heirs of Thomas Jefferson by accepting the ideal of human dignity found in the Declaration of Independence. We become the heirs of James Madison by understanding the genius and values of the U.S. Constitution. We become the heirs of Martin Luther King, Jr., by recognizing one another not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

    This means that people of every race, religion, and ethnicity can be fully and equally American. It means that bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed. (Applause.)
    And it means that the very identity of our nation depends on the passing of civic ideals to the next generation.’

    This guy is seriously stupid. What percentage of Americans know anything about Jefferson, Madison or the Constitution? What immigrants are coming here to embrace these ideas? What stops them from adopting these very same ideas in their own countries and staying there?

    This is treason, mates, plain and simple. We need a revolution and tanks on the streets. Nothing else is likely to work.

    Yakov

    October 20, 2017 at 9:45 am

  3. Great to see you using the word cuck!

    And I’ve gotten past Trump’s lack of Presidential-ness, or in fact his lack of decorum altogether. He’s here to disrupt. That, he does well. I think that’s all we can expect from him, although if he has a 2nd Admin, he might be able actually to do something. (And we can hope for more Supremes to croak.)

    gothamette

    October 20, 2017 at 9:53 am

    • Gothamette, Trump is a bull in the china shop and that is exactly what he was elected to be. America will not be great again untill that china shop lies in ruin.

      Roli

      October 20, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      • Wait, I thought it was drain the swamp. Now it’s smash the china?

        gothamette

        October 20, 2017 at 11:49 pm

  4. I found Bush’s speech revolting, but I do recognize that he has a personal grudge against Trump. Trump humiliated the entire Bush family and destroyed the chance for Jeb! to EVER be President. He’ll be low energy Jeb forever.

    And I’m amused that people who’ve despised Bush suddenly are taken with his statesman-like “wisdom.”

    Mike Street Station

    October 20, 2017 at 9:59 am

    • The NYer tried to publicly forgive him but the whole thing failed.

      Have to say, this is an interesting period.

      Did you read my comment in the post about Hollywood about how Trump is the real target in the Weinstein hunt? But it didn’t work.

      I never thought I’d say this but the liberal narrative really is failing. They won’t give up without a huge fight – no one ever gives up power gracefully – but they are slipping.

      gothamette

      October 20, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      • I have not even read the Hollywood thread yet, but I’ll check it out. I’m not sure if the liberal narrative is failing exactly, but it’s having to fight like never before, and apparently without limits. I couldn’t believe the attacks on GEN Kelly after his press conference, but MSNBC went right after him. They hoped Kelly was one of them, but now? He must be destroyed.

        At least they are actually having to fight.

        Mike Street Station

        October 20, 2017 at 6:59 pm

      • And they don’t know how to fight, or rather, they only fight dirty. They can’t fight with ideas.

        gothamette

        October 20, 2017 at 11:46 pm

      • “And they don’t know how to fight, or rather, they only fight dirty. They can’t fight with ideas”

        For the left, this isn’t even close to a war on ideas, it’s a war against the wrong type of people.

        Mike Street Station

        October 21, 2017 at 9:40 am

    • >>And I’m amused that people who’ve despised Bush suddenly are taken with his statesman-like “wisdom.”

      Over the years, the SWPL media did the same, “maturing in retirement” schtick with both Goldwater and Reagan, whom they hated in their day as much as they hate Trump now.

      Daniel

      October 21, 2017 at 2:36 am

      • Yeah but you only get to “maturing in retirement” if you can either change your mind on positions and move to the MSM narrative, or attack a MSM target. Goldwater did that (Reagan never had a chance to; he retired and died).

        Mike Street Station

        October 21, 2017 at 9:43 am

  5. I’d like to see more people point out how Bush’s vision of American nationhood is simply bad on the merits.

    There’s direct line between the United States’ failure to achieve strategic goals in Iraq (an easy divide-and-conquer job that the British Empire at its height would have cake-walked) and its lack of an ethnic identity. American misunderstanding of ethnicity and nationalism is a direct threat to the American global leadership that Bush and McCain prize.

    IHTG

    October 20, 2017 at 10:14 am

  6. Dubya was always a cuck. It’s just more obvious now.

    Jew613

    October 20, 2017 at 10:17 am

  7. Bush opened the eyes of a generation of conservatives to what the GOP really is. The disenchantment and betrayal threw them to the alt-right.

    fakeemail

    October 20, 2017 at 10:23 am

    • GW Bush and McCain are about as bad as you can get. As Sailer puts it: Invade the world, invite the world.

      Lewis Medlock

      October 20, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    • And how is the alt-right any better with Richard Spencer and his ilk? Not one redeeming quality coming from these people — no sense of nation building and self-determination (because its tough and uncool).

      JS

      October 20, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    • 99.999% non-whites could never be the Amish, and one could make a case most young White people have no stomach for grunt work, especially those in the alt-right.

      JS

      October 20, 2017 at 5:25 pm

      • Your point is?

        Clay

        October 21, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      • Aren’t you Puerto Rican or something? Your comments in regard to Whites and their politics are therefore meaningless.

        Invoking the Amish is merely invoking a Nordic breed of Germans. Your argument boils down to being more discerning on who qualifies as white, rather than a rebuke of Whites. I don’t think that argument will go where you predict.

        Last, your generalizations (“not one redeeming quality”, “99.999 percent of Whites could never be”, etc) come from pure emotion, sort of like the arguments of the average NAM.

        Spencer’s politics are mostly about self determination and the means to achieve it, though I think his sense of effective political strategy has fallen apart since Trump.

        Mark

        October 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm

      • My point is that there will be no White Ethnostate, given the lack of determination and sheer ruthlessness of creating one.

        Or maybe I’m biased, the run n the mill under 40 White I see, are having a ride of their life, with fun n games via American consumerism.

        JS

        October 21, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    • “Bush opened the eyes of a generation of conservatives to what the GOP really is. The disenchantment and betrayal threw them to the alt-right.”

      Well he did it by nearly destroying the GOP. If not for Trump, I think it’s likely that Bush would have been the last Republican President.

      Mike Street Station

      October 20, 2017 at 10:56 pm

  8. Who wrote this for him?

    Funny he didn’t connect the dots between the dynamism of the home country and the dynamism here. Lots of non-dynamic Italians either chose or were forced by necessity to return.

    Curle

    October 20, 2017 at 10:32 am

  9. So how much was he paid for spewing this collection of platitudes and lies?

    peterike

    October 20, 2017 at 10:51 am

  10. One word capsulized everything you needed to know about GWB: “nucular”.

    Marty

    October 20, 2017 at 11:12 am

    • I always enjoyed nucular. He was obviously doing it on purpose to annoy his critics, and it seemed to be pretty effective.

      J1

      October 20, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    • Yes, and this persona got Obama elected, did it not?

      I’d be curious as to whether could find such articulation, as well as semantic, gaffs since he left the WH.

      Mark

      October 21, 2017 at 1:02 pm

  11. Cuckservatives are happy to eat out of a liberal’s hand just for a little bit of media praise because they don’t fully grasp just how much contempt the left has for them. It’s not just ordinary hate, it’s self-righteous contempt, like you’re a morally inferior subhuman. So even if Bush really did believe all that happy horseshit, and hated Trump for beating Jeb, he wouldn’t do this if he knew who he was siding with.

    The left doesn’t make this mistake because leftists have better social and verbal skills. They detect hostility and attempts to manipulate them far better than the right.

    Jason Liu

    October 20, 2017 at 11:41 am

    • Remember that Bush’s self professed lowest point of his 8 year presidency was when Kayne West called him a racist.

      JOHN BECK

      October 20, 2017 at 9:32 pm

  12. Is it an accident that both McCain and Bush gave their speeches denouncing “nationalism” so close together? And of course, Bush brought up the establishment’s favorite bogeyman, “nativism.” But if you look up “nativism” in any dictionary, you’ll see that the definition is “a policy of favoring native-born inhabitants over immigrants,” which seems to me to be a common sense policy that should not be the least bit controversial.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    October 20, 2017 at 11:46 am

  13. Bush needed Mexican votes to be governor of Texas, and doesn’t the family have oil interests in Mexico that encouraged gov friendly policies with Mexico? Perhaps that’s the source of “dynamism.”

    Joe

    October 20, 2017 at 12:49 pm

  14. He’s butte hurt.

    Clay

    October 20, 2017 at 1:35 pm

  15. This is off topic, or maybe incidental to the topic, since we are talking about GWB.

    My question is, do the Lion or the commenters ever feel guilty about unwise things they did? There are several instances where I stole, cheated, and behaved poorly or even criminally. I do not want to get into detail because it is embarrassing. Generally I have at times flouted rules, laws, and good judgment, and I never suffered any penalty for it.

    I recently had a child, and certainly this is why I am poring over my life like this. It is eating at me, in a way that it never did until now. On reflection my life path seems fragile. There were three or four times I could have wound up with misdemeanors, and two or three where I could have killed myself.

    I am plagued by a mixture of paranoia and guilty… that I am so lucky. I want to do something about it, but I don’t know what. Are there any opinions?

    throwaway

    October 20, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    • If you feel guilty about dumb stuff you did when you were young, that means you’re not a psychopath or a sociopath.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 20, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    • If you almost killed yourself a few times, like in a suicide, you are mental and need a professional.

      Yakov

      October 20, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      • You shouldn’t use the word “mental,” it unfairly stigmatizes people.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 20, 2017 at 3:22 pm

      • And you stop using the word ‘cuck’ and then we’ll talk. Pot calling the kettle black.

        Yakov

        October 20, 2017 at 3:36 pm

      • I didn’t mean suicide. I meant putting myself in physically dangerous situations.

        Given the way you’ve described your life in previous posts, I would have expected you to identify somewhat with my feelings. Do you pray to Yahweh about things like this?

        throwaway

        October 20, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      • Joey Ramone uses it — half-Jew from Forest Hills — so it’s okay for Yakov to use it.

        Garr

        October 20, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    • This sounds like a troll post, but I’ll treat it as if it isn’t.

      Yes, I frequently feel guilty about things I’ve done in the past. I’ve never stolen anything from anyone I know personally, but when I was 15 I committed a few thousand dollars in credit card fraud. I didn’t think much of it at the time because I assumed the people I was stealing from would only lose $50 at the most. It wasn’t until years later that I realized I might have made people feel violated in a bad way that I hadn’t considered.

      I’ve completely totaled two cars while blackout drunk and I wound up serving part of a 4-year prison sentence when I was in my early-20s for various other stuff.

      That all weights on me some, but the things that keep me up at night are the cruel things that I’ve said and written to people. I’m ashamed of those things and won’t describe them, but trust me, they were really bad.

      I have a three-year-old and understand how you’re feeling. There’s no way to correct the past, but I found that I felt better once I accepted how awful my behavior was. I made excuses to myself for every crappy thing I ever did until I was in my late-20s/early-30s.

      There’s little empirical evidence that parenting can have long term effects on a child’s personality, but I’m still going to discuss the mistakes I’ve made with my son once he’s a teenager in the hope that he’ll listen, remember, and not do similar things. Thankfully, his personality already seems much more like my wife’s than mine.

      Horace Pinker

      October 20, 2017 at 3:31 pm

      • My new kid is a boy. I am convinced that I cannot allow him to go into the world like an idiot, the way my father did with me. I remember almost no instances of paternal advice, growing up.

        However this lends me little comfort, because I secretly suspect that I am genetically inclined to be an idiot. My brother may be even worse than I am in this respect.

        throwaway

        October 20, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      • @throwaway,

        I did lots of crazy shit when I was young, but the only thing I feel guilty about is giving the finger to someone in a fit of road rage. The woman did cut me off, and she was wrong, but when I flipped her the bird I saw that she had a little kid, who was looking at me. GUILT ATTACK. That plus other things convinced me never to get angry in a car. Just don’t do it. I wish I could apply that lesson to my real life….

        @Horace Pinker,

        I totally disagree with the popular on HBD blogs about parenting. It’s crucially important. The most important thing a parent can give a kid is advice about how the world works. You have to constantly drum into them that the world is a goddamn war, and that no one gives a shit about your feelings, and that they have to develop a thick hide. They need literacy and numeracy skills and social skills. Even if your kid blows you off, it is planting a seed.

        gothamette

        October 20, 2017 at 11:54 pm

      • @gothamette Whether or not parenting actually matters is a moot point for most parents. I accept the fact that there’s little empirical evidence to suggest that parenting has long term effects on a child’s personality, outside of abuse and neglect, of course, but it’s nearly impossible for me to feel like parenting doesn’t matter in the way the evidence suggests it doesn’t. I’m not going to be less involved in my kid’s life because of this and while I have a good marriage, I’d probably stay in a bad one rather than get divorced because I can’t imagine not living with my kid.

        Bryan Caplan wrote a book that I haven’t read about why parenting doesn’t matter called “Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids.” He’s currently homeschooling his kids because he’s convinced that his unique brand of parenting is effective in a way that makes the overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests parenting doesn’t matter irrelevant.

        Horace Pinker

        October 24, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    • Yeah, man, I feel way guilty about lots of shit all the time. Complicit in abortion, stole from college library, mean to people I didn’t like … it’s all just God’s memories in the end, though. The lion kills the gazelle, and God remembers this from both points of view, as predator and prey. Look at trees and clouds and you’ll feel better for a while.

      Garr

      October 20, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      • Joey Ramone was 100% Jewish.

        gothamette

        October 20, 2017 at 11:50 pm

      • Yeah, I see that now, having googled the Wiki — thought he and Howard Stern were/are only half, maybe because people have told me I look like both and I’m half? (Cop told me, “You know, you’re the spitting image of Howard Stern” while driving me off to the station for booking or whatever due to quarter-ounce of weed like twenty years ago.) Sorry.

        Garr

        October 21, 2017 at 7:20 am

    • How old were you when you did the stupid things? Apparently the human brain doesn’t mature fully until the age of about 25. I think most of us have done some stupid things we regret. Old people like me are lucky that there are no photos on the Internet of us doing stupid things when we were young.

      We can’t go back and undo what was done. We can just go forward and try to make the best of things as they are now.

      Lesley Robinson

      October 20, 2017 at 3:49 pm

      • I remember committing petty theft, trespassing, academic cheating, drunk driving, public drunkenness, the destruction of other’s property, and gross disrespect to others, sometimes bordering on harassment. There were also various times I shirked school and work responsibilities, and got away with it, twice by appealing to authorities and painting myself in a good light. That was from ages 16 to 25.

        I am now in my early thirties. Since 25 I have various additional regrets, all of which revolve around me driving my car like a moron. These regrets mostly center on the possibility of me dying in an accident and leaving my wife behind, or now my wife and child.

        It disturbs me how much my life, and my absurdly good life outcomes, have hinged on luck. In retrospect all my actions appear inexcusably foolish, and all my accomplishments seem hollow, hung mostly on circumstances outside my control. I feel like I owe the universe a debt, and I don’t know how to pay it. Lately I have considered donating large amounts of money to related non-profits or universities, or writing letters of apology to some people.

        throwaway

        October 21, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    • All you can do is pray. You cant change the past. Say the Lord’s prayer. It does help.

      Otherwise it’s guilt and fear all the way down.

      Mrs Stitch

      October 20, 2017 at 4:10 pm

      • I do not believe in God, but in all seriousness I am considering going to church anyway, or perhaps praying on my own.

        I realize my past is hardly sordid, and that many people have been in worse circumstances than I ever saw, or committed worse misdeeds. It isn’t the individual actions that bother me, or guilt over any one thing. It’s the picture of my life. I see that I am a self-serving and undeservedly fortunate person, who despite living in a cruel and uncaring world, is somehow doing just fine.

        throwaway

        October 21, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    • “I didn’t mean suicide. I meant putting myself in physically dangerous situations.”

      Everyone does dangerous stupid stuff when young.

      Mike Street Station

      October 20, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    • This seems like a troll post that is fishing for signs of sociopathy in the responses.

      Mark

      October 21, 2017 at 1:04 pm

      • It basically reads like an invented self-talk narrative from a psychology textbook or a pathology screener, that is meant to describe the self-talk of minor sociopaths. The reader is meant to learn through identification of the socio-pathological tendencies expressed in the monologue, or else is being screened as to whether or not they can identify the tendencies. Failure to do so means lack of psychology knowledge, but empathy with the narrator in a manner that approves of the tendencies screens for sociopathy. I may be reading too much into it, but that’s a long explanation of my quick intuitive impression having read a lot of textbooks and taken a lot of tests.

        Mark

        October 21, 2017 at 1:11 pm

  16. GWB seems to have conveniently forgotten that prior to Trump, he himself was the primary target of the never-ending vicious, hateful leftist bile that’s now become a mainstay of modern American politics. While in office, his reputation was completely trashed both in the US and in most of the world by the very people who are now braying for Trump’s scalp and it was usually only the American paroles who came to his defence. How quickly he’s forgotten that recent past, and now he and his prick of a father kiss SJW ass like there was no tomorrow. There must be a special place in hell for these two.

    Roli

    October 20, 2017 at 5:19 pm

  17. The problem with GWB and his ilk are not their principles. If they campaigned on their principles then they would simply never be elected. They would be considered an idiosyncratic yet ineffectual cabal of elites who virtually no one identifies with. They would be hated universally, but without significant power.

    The core problem with GWB and his ilk is that they misrepresent themselves to get elected, and not within the normal boundaries of politicians who misrepresent themselves. They have long used dog whistles, and direct lies, to make proto-Trump-merica think that would look after their interests.

    The outcome was that the liberals had 20 years in office prior to Obama, with the 8 years directly prior to Obama working to make sure that the world really hated conservatives.

    This means that the problem with GWB and his ilk is that they were willing to execute on a cynical campaign to mislead half of the well meaning dupes in this nation. Was that the fault of the dupes? Maybe not. They were given no other real choice. The learning was slow but it occurred, and the neocons were subsequently rejected in favor of a nationalist. A less than ideal nationalist, but a rejection and election nonetheless.

    GWB and his friends deserve the emnity of half of the nation, and they had the emnity of the other half. He is a friendless island who now seeks acceptance from the people who he was helping during his presidency: those that voted against him. He’s now out of the closet as an enemy of those who put him in office.

    Dan

    October 20, 2017 at 9:14 pm


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