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Lion car recommendation: Honda FIT

Total cost of ownership is only about $5000/year (because of low price and high gas mileage). That’s a lot less expensive than any electric or hybrid car. Furthermore, because it’s a hatchback, it’s very practical for being able to transport a lot of cargo for a small car.

It’s also good for keeping gold diggers and other high-maintenance women away.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 23, 2017 at 12:24 pm

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  1. Thank you for the recommendation.

    Good tip about the Jezebels.


    October 23, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    • PS Why is buying a car so difficult? Why can’t you just look up the price and that’s that? Whenever I try to look up these things they want you to fill out all sorts of shit and I don’t want to do that.


      October 23, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      • If a car dealer just gives you a price with no effort on your part, you are less likely to buy a car from them (since you will use that price to haggle with other dealers) or if you do buy a car from them, it will be because they price they offered gives them very little profit. So either way, the dealership doesn’t make out very well.


        October 23, 2017 at 1:13 pm

      • Just go to and read the discussions about the model you’re interested in. Buyers talk about the prices they actually paid with what options, etc.

        Explainer 21

        October 23, 2017 at 1:30 pm

      • Scott Adams has invented a term for this. Confusopoly. If all the information were transparent you could easily compare prices for equivalent cars and choose the lowest price option. Confusion is used to elevate profit margins.


        October 23, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      • It’s a sort of oligopolistic collusion.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 23, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      • Car dealers have a legal monopoly. If you don’t want to deal with a dealership you have to buy a used car, assuming you can’t afford a Tesla.



        October 23, 2017 at 3:55 pm

      • yes. marketing is a glaring inefficiency of muh free market.

        ron burgundy

        October 23, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      • Sellers are smart for being opaque. Why should they give away valuable information for free? Also, they don’t know if you can actually afford it! Their job is to get you in the door so they can do a credit check and income check. Lots of peeps want stuff, like expensive cars. Wanting isn’t profitable, show me the money.

        spark the fire

        October 23, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      • @fortaleza84,
        Good answer, thanks.

        No, you have to fill out something and the owner calls you. I’m sure you get pestered for the rest of your life.


        October 23, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    • The points made are solid, but would you want to be in a car accident with such a light car?

      Return of Shawn

      October 23, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    • Mazda 6 is better. Look up Karl Denninger’s reviews on the thing.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      October 23, 2017 at 9:37 pm

      • Aren’t they two different animals? Mazdas are kind of sporty, right?


        October 24, 2017 at 1:02 pm

  2. Owning a car is prole and suburban living, minus well call it prole too, and redundant.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    • Owning a car is NOT prole.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      • A car has poor resale value, and utilizes for too much space and resources. This is a definition of prole.


        October 23, 2017 at 2:22 pm

      • A car has poor resale value,

        Not if you trade in your car every two years for the newest model and reject the dealer’s first offer.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 23, 2017 at 3:52 pm

      • public transportation is prole, except maybe in nyc. all american cars are prole.

        ron burgundy

        October 23, 2017 at 3:57 pm

      • In his book “Class,” Paul Fussell said the rich drive old cars (if memory serves me correctly, old English cars in particular). I am not sure that applies anymore. When I was in Del Mar and La Jolla, I saw a ton of new megabucks cars parked in front of zillion dollar homes.

        Return of Shawn

        October 23, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      • @Shawn:

        When the Mini came out (around ’02?), the Wall Street Journal sent a reporter to Los Gatos, the toniest town in Silicon Valley, to collect opinions on it. The snobbery was such that one guy actually said, “don’t get caught driving that around here.”

        mel belli

        October 23, 2017 at 5:58 pm

      • Public transportation in America is prole, with the exception of Manhattan, simply because America is prole.


        October 23, 2017 at 9:54 pm

      • Owning a car is prole like owning a toaster is prole. Both are relatively newer technology, which by its nature resists higher class status symbolism, but the truth is that the highest of the upper class owns both cars and toasters.

        Suburban living is closer to country living than living in the city is, and country living is the opposite of prole. Why should we call suburban living redundant? Or is it the car that is redundant? Your syntax doesn’t make it easy to decipher what you are trying to say.

        I think that you need to read Fussell again (or once) before feeling confident in your prole decrees.


        October 23, 2017 at 10:43 pm

      • Cars are not new technology. All rich people own cars. The vast majority of rich people drive the cars they own themselves.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 23, 2017 at 11:17 pm

      • “A car has poor resale value, and utilizes for too much space and resources. This is a definition of prole”.

        I don’t think you understand, or perhaps haven’t retained, the class concepts that are referred to here and that are rooted in Paul Fussell’s book.

        Resale value is irrelevant. Lots of cars have high resale value, whether resale value is “low” or “high” is only relevant to the initial cost of the car and the cost of anything else that is owned, and upper class people own lots of status conferring items with “low” resale value. Class is not about resale value.

        Last, counter to your assertion (and for the benefit of anyone who read your claim), something that takes up space and resources is actually an upper class symbol. See dog ownership. This is a very specific point made by Fussell. Though, Applying these metrics to a car is unusual. Car ownership, insofar as it affects class, is more about avoiding a low class signal by buying a vulgar brand and model. Having a non-vulgar car brand and model confers awareness of higher class symbols and thus at least some higher class status 9insofar as you aren’t giving off unfortunate class signals in other ways) . See the favorite cars of the Northeastern prep school family for cars that do not violate the vulgarity standard.


        October 23, 2017 at 10:56 pm

      • Some of Fussell’s ideas are out of date and no longer relevant in the 21st Century.

        Keep believing that some “tony” suburb in America, where everyone owns a fancy car in the middle of nowhere, is the consummate success story in an age of globalization.

        Status markers among the elite are with intangibles.


        October 23, 2017 at 11:29 pm

      • “Cars are not new technology”.

        My statement was 100% in the context of Fussell.

        By his account, cars are new technology from a class standpoint. Remember, the class ladder sees most technology as “new”, save perhaps the printing press. But its a relative scale.

        So, owning a car does not lower status. It’s just that owning a new car is not higher status than an older car (of an acceptable make), except for relatively lower class people, and opting for older technology is always preferable.

        Though, my sense is that status considerations do not delve so deep for TOOS car ownership that anyone is going to consider what the older technology is for class signalling purposes. In a practical sense, what it likely means is just not be be seen driving a McLaren or Mercedes (like an African diplomat).

        What that means is that you can’t up your class status by buying the best of the best cars, and not having a car does not lower your class status. For a scaled down version of the metaphor, merely ride the NYC subway and witness all of the ghetto dwellers with the newest iphone. It doesn’t up their status one iota, but at the same time plenty of TOOS people have iphones. Tech can only affect status in one direction, toward the negative, when it is ostentatious.


        October 25, 2017 at 2:06 am

    • Cars are not prole. The rich still have uses for them. Tesla is probably the least prole car.


      October 24, 2017 at 1:24 am

    • “minus well”?

      Robert the Wise

      October 24, 2017 at 5:54 am

      • “minus well” = “might as well” ?

        Probably using voice mode.

        Lewis Medlock

        October 24, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    • This comment proves JS is nuts.


      October 24, 2017 at 1:22 pm

      • True elites have chauffeurs and suburban life is only a vacation.


        October 24, 2017 at 1:42 pm

      • Wrong, rich people like big houses.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm

      • Big homes are for proles. Just ask your wealthy neighbors out in Guido Island.


        October 24, 2017 at 5:45 pm

      • JS learns his stuff from old Audrey Hepburn movies.


        October 24, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      • “Wrong, rich people like big houses.”

        In white neighborhoods.


        October 24, 2017 at 9:53 pm

      • Fussell isn’t out of date. His points are so dense and sometimes subtly made that readers forget them. His diagram of the American class system is a diagram of the imported English class system. To check his work, merely get to know the system a little better. Its fully pervasive, and the class system has not deviated outside of it.

        The only difference is that the English are more stringent about the rules (see men’s fashion, and its history in English fashion as compared to the current expressions in both the UK and here, for a fairly reliable measure of both trends and a telling manifestation of the Town and Country influences on the class system), but that does not mean that America has changed the rules. That just means that those who are relatively more upper class are increasingly in shorter supply here, or at least are increasingly less visible. Fussell fully accounted for any trends you are referring to. Read the book again. The Country will always be the Country, and the Town will always be the Town. No trend is going to change what those to locations mean for the upper class. They are not going to give up the country, and everything that it means, for apartments in Manhattan and London. They’ve always had those as well.

        JS, just to settle this once and for all, do you have any experience with the upper class? Did you go to prep school, an Ivy League University, or another Upper Class private University? Just so we know where your experience comes from. It contradicts what I know from spending six years at a very old prep school.


        October 25, 2017 at 2:21 am

  3. Get an SV650 or FZ07 with under 5K miles. Way cheaper, cooler, and more fun.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:17 pm

  4. Unfortunately, it has a rep for being a girl car or a gay car.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    • Unfortunately, it has a rep for being a girl car or a gay car.

      I think that’s where the – “It’s also good for keeping gold diggers and other high-maintenance women away” – comes in.


      October 23, 2017 at 2:33 pm

      • It’s good for keeping away all women.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        October 23, 2017 at 9:38 pm

      • It’s good for keeping away all women.


        Dave Pinsen

        October 24, 2017 at 1:37 am

    • No, I got the ultimate girly / gay car.

      Voted European gay car of the year… twice.
      In 2006 as the original hardtop and again in 2010 as the roll down cabrio version.

      For your consideration, Fiat 500 Cinquecento… Totally tutti-frutti… but oh what fun to drive…

      Go through the slideshow to see some fine design, most of which isn’t available Stateside.
      It shouldn’t surprise that gays may have great taste, in music, fashion, design and cars….
      Let those overearnest lesbians have their Subarus and pickup trucks…
      It seems Yanks have a masculinity crisis and uncertainty how to be secure and present a proper masculine image. Hence taboos about enjoying music, dancing, literature and other fine innocent pleasures.

      When I was travelling more frequently for business in Europe, I’d request the cheapest and smallest car for rental… because I didn’t really care. What I didn’t expect was to discover what great pleasures of driving they are. Great practicality in the hatchback (don’t try to get too much in that silly stodgy BMW sedan’s trunk), excellent visibility, handling, maneuverability and performance thanks to the favorable power to weight / ratio.

      One weekend as a gag, I went out test driving muscle cars with my brother in southern California. At the time I was fancying that new Ford Mustang… the GT version has a fine sound indeed. We also tried some of the offerings from GM and the Germans too. My impression of the Mustang: It is a beast. The name is quite accurate; so much power it’s like trying to keep wild stallions under reign…

      So when I got home I went to the local Fiat dealer to see if I still fancy the feeling of driving a small car like that. They had a special offer on a cabrio with the special Abarth turbo motor and sport suspension from the previous model year they were trying to unload at a ridiculous discount. Perhaps because it had a manual transmission? That was my preference anyways. I’d have paid extra for that privilege…. So they gave me a no-obligation test drive over the weekend. Never heard of any dealer being so generous like that. I drove the hell out of it. Apparently that little car with the 160 horsepower is a manual geared automatic smile machine. That experience had a smiling the whole time as I zipped around the city, the bay and the mountains. The dealer knew what they were doing when they put me in that test drive for the weekend. Such sweet performance, matched with precise handling. I was able to slip into small gaps in the thick viscous traffic, because I knew not only exactly where the car’s body started and ended, but also the good little turbo motor moved it on command and without delay. And parking the Fiat in the city? Not much to say; you’d expect a little car like that to make it easy, but it’s even easier than you’d expect.

      In contrast the Mustang didn’t have nearly the same kind of visibility with its long snout, low riding position and narrow windows which made maneuvering in traffic much more of a guessing game. I was much more conservative about the size of gaps in traffic I would dare to inject the car into. I didn’t get an opportunity to try to parallel park it during the brief supervised test drive, but based on everything else I observed driving it, it would have been much harder than any of the cars I’d owned previously. Also its long chasis didn’t have the same kind of stiffness and it felt like the front and rear ends had almost different trajectories and momentum when handling. Finally the “backseat” and “trunk” in the Mustang are jokes. Indeed funny to look at because it’s obvious how pointless they are. The Fiat has a genuine full backseat, that fits adults up to perhaps 72 inches comfortably enough for extended drives. Granted the cabrio version doesn’t offer all the hatchback expansion capacity of the hardtop. But it wasn’t significantly less space than the Mustang or the Germans I tested.

      Certainly it was the fun factor of driving passion that sold me. I wasn’t even planning on buying a new car, but the unique equipment of that limited special edition previous year and the significant price cut sold me. Who doesn’t wish they had a little impulsive Italian blood? Having not lived in NY / NJ since the 1990s, I’m far enough removed from Guido culture that I can romanticize it. But I imagine that an American Guido wouldn’t be caught dead driving a Fiat 500. Real Italian-Italians? Certainly no problem. No insecurities about their masculinity stops them (even thought even Europeans recognize it as a gay car).

      For me it definitely was not a calculated rational decision. Everybody jokes about reliability of Italian engineering, but my friends with the German cars have had nothing but trouble and they always make excuses, as if they’re trying to justify their decision. I always joke back, “If they were so irrational to be seduced by the exciting design from Wolfsburg & Ingolstadt and passionate Teutonic driving experience of their VWs & Audis, they might have been able to keep their minds open to the reliability & dependability of Italian engineering and the precision & quality of Latin manufacturing…”

      I love the Germans. Have lived there many years. But their cars are way overrated. The engineering people are great; many of the automotive subsystems that their suppliers provide the industry are very competitive. Notwithstanding the restrained style & design that speaks to many (me included), the reliability & driving experience? Not worth the premium.

      Finally a question for many of the denizens of the forum here, why do so many Jewish Americans like to buy and drive German cars in spite of explicit antipathy to that nation and people? Listening to an old Lincoln-driving midwestern Jewish grandfather observing that, I’d have echo his bewilderment. Why do Jews like German cars so well but German people not so much?

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      October 24, 2017 at 1:29 pm

      • Nice comment. It’s clear that you like cars and enjoy driving.

        Re: Manual transmissions. It’s a two-edged sword. On the one hand, some people believe the buyer has the edge because he knows the dealer doesn’t have that many people looking for a manual.
        On the other hand, some believe the seller has the edge because he knows that buyers who want a certain vehicle with a manual transmission may have limited options.
        (This line of thinking applies far more to buying a used car than buying a new one).

        Lewis Medlock

        October 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      • I notice the Germans have to borrow the English word “sexiness.”


        October 24, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      • Nobody should laugh at these so-called “gay” cars.

        Here is one I would love to have:

        A Mazda Miata with a Corvette drive-train. 480 hp V8 in a car that weighs 2600 lbs. All the handling of a Miata with the power-to-weight ratio of a Dodge Viper.


        October 25, 2017 at 5:45 am

      • ‘Why do Jews like German cars so well but German people not so much?’

        The Germans as a nation have acknowledged their crimes against the Jews. It makes sense to me to accept a hand stretched out in friendship. Willy Brandt and my grandfather had fought on the same side in Spain and he represented the post war Germany. I know that German tools are excellent and based on that I prefer Hilti to anything else and would buy it. When it comes to cars, in the Orthodox society I don’t know anybody who drives a German car. In general, I think that once Israel had accepted reparations from Germany the taboo had been broken. Many German cars and other equipment arrived in Israel as a part of this agreement.


        October 25, 2017 at 7:28 pm

  5. Fit Lolz! Fit for what? Maybe for tinsky Japs or faggots, but what normal person can fit into that ‘Fit’? I drive’ 99 Mercury Marquie, that is an awesomely comfortable car. American cars are the most comfortable anyway, all these little jobs are very irritating.

    I wanna get a Citroen 2cv one day though. Always loved that car.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    • You have prole tastes in cars.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      • Mate, I drive what I like regardless of what anyone thinks. It’s not the car, but who is behind the wheel that makes the difference. This is very simple. I mean, get a car to attract girls, lol! This is so faggoty, I can’t stand it. This is just too stupid for me.

        2cv us a beautifully engineered and designed and is a total head turner, by the way. Well deserved.


        October 23, 2017 at 2:07 pm

      • yakov is hilarious. doesn’t citroen mean “lemon”?

        in heaven the french are the chefs and the germans are the mechanics.
        in hell the germans are the police and the french are the mechanics. the chefs are english.

        france is the only OECD country which has a lower fraction of its total output from manufacturing than the US has.

        ron burgundy

        October 23, 2017 at 4:03 pm

      • The french were incredibly important to the development of the car. The 2CV is a cheap bottom of the market car along the lines of the VW bug but the Citroen DS is considered one of if not the most revolutionary car ever produced (and also the most comfortable).


        October 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm

      • Citroen was founded by a Polish Jew by the name Zitronenbaum. He changed it to Citroen and it has had mojo.


        October 23, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      • Heaven is where the police are British, the lovers French, the mechanics German, the chefs Italian, and it is all organized by the Swiss.
        Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians.

        Some Guy

        October 23, 2017 at 7:28 pm

      • Yakov, why don’t you have a truck or a van? How do you work out of a mid sized sedan?


        October 23, 2017 at 10:26 pm

      • I use company’s van for my jobs.


        October 23, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      • @Someguy

        “Heaven is where the police are British, the lovers French, the mechanics German, the chefs Italian, and it is all organized by the Swiss.
        Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians.”

        I’ve heard this one many times, but am disappointed that they never suggest a job for the Jews in heaven…
        Opening up this to the crowd here for speculation….
        Is this because they are talking about Gentile heaven and the afterlife is segregated and St. Peter ushers Jews someplace else? Perhaps Heaven: Business Class?

        Or is it that Jews were so industrious on Earth that they don’t need to work any more and can finally relax and enjoy the afterlife?

        Or is it because it wouldn’t be heaven if it had lawyers, bankers, advertisers & Hollywood producers?

        Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

        October 24, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    • Yakov,

      You need to trade up to Mercury Marauder.


      October 23, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      • I don’t trade up, I drive a car till it dies.


        October 23, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      • Marauder is an excellent car. I’m only driving big American cars. They have the best ride and feel American. That’s what I like. Not gonna crawl in and out of a Japanese match box. Citroen 2cv is different – it’s a cult car and I’m totally irrational about it. Gotta get it one day. They should bring it back though. Kinda doesn’t make sense to pay $20,000 for a 40-50 year old model.


        October 23, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    • When I lived in the Netherlands the first time, I fell in love with so many of the little cars, but the Duck (2CV) was my favorite.

      Euros know to appreciate little cars without feeling all gay about it. American culture makes it hard to appreciate “little” to make it worth investing in design, comfort & quality to make a premium product in a small package. While life in cramped cities like NY might make small cars attractive, it is uncommon for the American experience and rather exceptional.

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      October 24, 2017 at 1:35 pm

      • It has an absolutely special charm that us hard to put together not words.


        October 25, 2017 at 8:02 pm

  6. Why not Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla

    Coincidentally we have a lot of Indians at work and the probability of Indians ownin something outside of (civic, corolla, accord and camry) is less than 5%.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    • Two years ago I had a 6’5″ Indian guy as a nextdoor neighbor. Very arrogant, refused to follow any of the HOA rules. He would get a new vehicle about every 4 months. Had a Charger, then a Mazda CX-5, then a Mazda 6, then a Ducati.

      mel belli

      October 23, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      • How about some soap and deodorant?


        October 24, 2017 at 11:35 am

    • the virtue of thrift and the vice of bo.

      ron burgundy

      October 23, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    • Evidently they don’t sell the Leaf in your area.


      October 23, 2017 at 5:31 pm

  7. If you drive a Fit, you might avoid golddiggers but you’ll start getting hit on by NPR/Whole Foods types.


    October 23, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    • You’re confusing a FIT with a Volvo or a Prius.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      • Lion: FITs are pretty popular with trendoids. But not as much as a Subaru, Volvo, Prius, Leaf, or Tesla.

        The Honda FIT also comes with a diesel engine and a manual transmission. Not very common.

        Lewis Medlock

        October 23, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    • They drive Subarus.

      spark the fire

      October 23, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    • all lion has to do is mention he plays overwatch and they’ll be gone


      October 24, 2017 at 3:23 pm

  8. guest

    October 23, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    • Interesting that Citroën 2cv has made it to the 50th place by the skin of his teeth. It’s all baloney anyway. A car has to be comfortable and fun, a few gallons less or more makes no difference. I mean, to whom it makes a difference? To some bird or goat somewhere? Not here though. In China maybe, but definitely not here. Who knows what else they compromised in that vehicle to give you that crazy milage? Citroën 2cv is different because it has a two cylinder engine and is a natural.


      October 23, 2017 at 8:14 pm

  9. Get a Ford F-150. Most popular choice for millionaires.

    roxborough's son

    October 23, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    • then being a millionaire is prole.

      ron burgundy

      October 23, 2017 at 4:05 pm

  10. Lion car recommendation: Honda FIT

    Never buy electric cars like FIT or Prius for safety reasons. In a crash they get crushed as easily as paper cups. The only safe one electric car is Tesla which comes with its own set of problems such as cost, lack of availability, short range, and lack of fueling stations.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 23, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    • A better bet is a Nissan Altima or Mazda 6. Both have good fuel efficiency without comprising quality safety standards.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 23, 2017 at 2:22 pm

      • Nissans (except for gt-r’s) are driven by NAMs. This is well known due to nissan being more liberal in underwriting of loans compared to Honda and Toyota.

        Simba of the Blogosphere

        October 23, 2017 at 3:58 pm

      • I drive a 11 year old (bought it new), 150k mileage Nissan Altima. Love it.


        October 23, 2017 at 5:00 pm

      • Nissans (except for gt-r’s) are driven by NAMs. This is well known due to nissan being more liberal in underwriting of loans compared to Honda and Toyota.

        I see plenty of white people driving Nissans. Perhaps they’re paying more than NAMs but white people do drive them.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 23, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    • The FIT is a regular gasoline car.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    • The FIT is a regular gasoline car.

      Its small frame will be devastated by a modest crash just as easily as a Prius.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 23, 2017 at 3:16 pm

  11. Get a Lincoln Town Car with 50,000 miles on it for around 10 grand. Then drive it for another 300,000 miles or until the wheels fall off, whichever comes first.


    October 23, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    • Yeah, that’s an excellent car.

      Anyway I think we should be only buying American cars, unless it’s something unique that America doesn’t have. Lion, why the hell are you recomending a Jap car? You don’t want to put money into the pockets of American workers?


      October 23, 2017 at 2:58 pm

      • Lots of American cars made abroad like Mexico or others. Lots of Japanese cars made right here in usa. It’s not clear cut like that 1950s thinking any more.


        October 23, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      • That’s true, I’d better check out where my next car is gonna be manufactured. Nothing is plain and simple any more. Too many robots and robotic people.


        October 23, 2017 at 6:24 pm

      • It’s even more complicated than that… the car might be made in America, but the subcomponents might be made in Mexico or Germany or Japan. Gotta scout online forums to find out. Wasn’t there a lawsuit about this recently (labeling of cars and where they were made).

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        October 23, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    • Cosigned. I’ve driven everything on the road as of a few years ago, and the Towncar is difficult to beat. Only a few other cars that I know of are as positive on the road. It’s a very unique car in terms of space, power, and handling. The only caveat is that you have to resign yourself to giving the impression that you are a chauffer, a cop from the 1990’s, or an old person while behind the wheel. It’s difficult to not look awkward in one, unless you are on the job or are too old to care.


      October 23, 2017 at 11:03 pm

      • Yes. You will look like a weirdo, but that’s the fun part.


        October 24, 2017 at 10:50 am

  12. My wife has had her FIT for 10 years – she won’t let me replace it with a newer model.


    October 23, 2017 at 3:24 pm

  13. Manual transmission? That’ll impede theft and carjacking.


    October 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    • I heard that the FIT has a lousy manual transmission. Car message boards don’t recommend it. Otherwise I agree that manual transmission is good for avoiding car theft.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm

  14. in car terms it’s japanese for those on a budget and german for those not on a budget.

    i found a car for JS:

    ron burgundy

    October 23, 2017 at 4:11 pm

  15. I drive a 2001 330CI… Bought it for 10K (in 2012) and fix it myself because I find repairing vehicles relaxing (which makes servicing affordable)

    You get the dual benefit of chicks being into the car (because it’s a sexy fucking car) but gold diggers fuck off when they find out it’s ancient (and therefore I probably don’t have money)… which occasionally happens after I get the benefit of a gold digger thinking I do have money.


    October 23, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    • The problem with old ‘luxury’ cars is too many NAMs drive them.

      Simba of the Blogosphere

      October 23, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      • In an age of American glut, elites try hard to separate from the masses, with intangibles like expensive degrees and foreign language acquisition.


        October 23, 2017 at 11:35 pm

      • They still own cars.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 23, 2017 at 11:50 pm

      • Luxury cars ought to eschew financing to maintain their luxury status. I remember liking the look of the Maserati Quattroporte, and then I started seeing them in ghetto neighborhoods. Kills the brand.

        Dave Pinsen

        October 24, 2017 at 1:43 am

      • Yeh but you can instantly tell a NAM owned older “luxury” car by the intense amount of rust 😀


        October 25, 2017 at 9:16 am

  16. What about safety? The Honda Fit seems to be a decent, well made car, but undersized. It’s a sub-compact, smaller than compacts like the Civic or Corolla.

    It’s probably good for cities and small towns, but driving on major roads and highways might be tough.


    October 23, 2017 at 4:21 pm

  17. How often do you actually need a car? Wouldn’t just renting Zip cars as needed be more cost efficient? To say nothing of the nightmare or cost of parking in the city. Don’t forget you have to move your car all the time for street cleaning. Which means going “oh crap! have to move the car!” on a freezing cold winter night.

    Unless your apartment includes a parking space. In which case, you still don’t need a car.


    October 23, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    • Not to have a parking place for your car is a very beastly living. You mates should all have it or at least I assume you do.


      October 23, 2017 at 11:56 pm

  18. I own a Honda Fit hatchback. Fantastic car – better than the Nissan Versa because the seats fold down completely in the back. They are very popular in the Bay Area and have no feminine connotation here, but I can see how it would probably not be the best choice for a single man in Texas.


    October 23, 2017 at 4:47 pm

  19. Do NOT ever buy a Corvette! Whatever their pluses might be, here is a shocking horror story of a brand-new one that ended up in a junkyard because of an ONE INCH crack on its frame.



    October 23, 2017 at 6:03 pm

  20. of course the most aesthetically pleasing car is the mercedes 450sl(c)…and it’s cheap. you’d have to have three. one to drive, two for the shop.

    ron burgundy

    October 23, 2017 at 6:03 pm

  21. The Honda HR-V is built on the same platform as a fit. You have CUV ground clearance and cargo capacity with most of the Fit economy.

    Or, just buy a Ford Escape.


    October 23, 2017 at 7:11 pm

  22. Frankly, I think these fuel economy ratings are a lie. I have a Honda CR-V and I am lucky if I get a combined 22 mpg.


    October 23, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    • Today I saw a Ford Flex in a stunning teal color. I’m a sucker for teal. But I have no use for a Flex. If they offered the Fit in that color, I’d buy one.


      October 23, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    • The fuel economy ratings are under “ideal” conditions. They’re always lower in the real world–often by a substantial amount.

      Lewis Medlock

      October 23, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    • They are mostly BS, but marginally true. If a 36 mpg highway rating is claimed, what that really means is the car will get 36 mpg in perfect conditions: a 5 mph tail wind, flat and straight road, driving in no traffic with the cruise control on. In other words, it can achieve the reported rating, but its nowhere close to an average.

      spark the fire

      October 23, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    • Your driving style is either hilariously bad or you only do city driving.


      October 23, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    • CR-V milage will depend on the year.

      Mike Street Station

      October 24, 2017 at 6:03 am

  23. I know several people who own Honda CRV’s. (I think that stands for compact recreational vehicle.)

    OT, what do LoTBers think of the four white punks who killed a 32 year old dad:

    I think their pics prove that they all have extremely low IQs.


    October 23, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    • Prison needs fresh meat anyways. I would say 15 years minimum sounds ok.


      October 24, 2017 at 2:41 pm

  24. I thought the LOTB would only drive SEAT Leóns!

    Assembled in Catalonia Spain, what a tie in…


    October 23, 2017 at 9:57 pm

  25. it’s time. the time has come.

    ian smith

    October 23, 2017 at 11:40 pm

  26. This is the car Honda brought in to replace the Civic as their subcompact. After marginally increasing the Civic in size every model, it moved into the compact class.

    I could not handle something that small.If you’re that price conscious buy a reliable used car. Most depreciation happens in the first two years.


    October 24, 2017 at 1:16 am

  27. Driving a car is certainly a prole. Owning a car is sort of prole, but sometimes makes sense if you can pay someone to drive it for you.


    October 24, 2017 at 8:03 am

    • It is not prole to own a car, and it is not prole do drive a car. Sherman McCoy drove his own car.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 24, 2017 at 8:12 am

      • Yes, but obsessing about your car is lower class. If you tinker on your car and wash it every other day you are probably high prole. If you view your car as an extension of your personality or self esteem you are probably middle class. In my experience the true upper class just drives whatever they feel like driving. It could be a BMW 7 series or a Toyota Camry. To them it’s just a vehicle.


        October 24, 2017 at 10:54 am

      • I’m true upper class then, which is what I always thought anyway.


        October 24, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      • only angloproles have names like McCoy


        October 24, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    • That is retarded. Driving cars can be a lot of fun. My first car was an expensive two seater sports car. Loved it.

      not too late

      October 24, 2017 at 12:21 pm

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