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Star Trek Discovery S01E07 “Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad”

I am not a fan of this episode.

A party with 1970s disco music and a drunk Cadet Tilly is more Orville than Discovery. (Although they did get the timeline right in the sense that this takes place ten years before TOS, and the crew of the original Enterprise got drunk from time to time, unlike the prudish TNG crew who only drank “synthehol.”)

The “time loop” thing was done before on TNG, and I didn’t like it back then either.

Turning Mudd into a comic supervillain also feels completely out of place here on a show that’s supposed to be dark and serious, not campy.

Stamets grows more likeable in this episode. Maybe the spore-mushroom DNA isn’t turning him into a monster, it’s just making him spacey in more ways than one.

Also, I’m not getting the feeling that Ash Tyler is secretly a Klingon spy, as some on the internet have conjectured.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 29, 2017 at EDT pm

Posted in Television

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  1. Breitbart is running a series about being right wing in Hollywood. The writing is crap, and the guy is pretty cuck, but the last entry is interesting.

    http://www.breitbart.com/tinseltown/3/

    “No longer afraid to be called racists, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes, or xenophobes – because they know they’ll be branded these no matter what – the new right is going directly after their perceived enemy, rejecting traditional content, creating their own entertainment, and organizing on a scale that should make Hollywood take pause in their daily putdowns. Social norms are no longer barriers, and some are even willing to flout the law…all to even the playing field. These are the fruits of Tinseltown and Big Media’s years of abuse, and nothing shows this phenomenon better than the Internet sensation He Will Not Divide Us. It’s a cautionary tale for the kind of blowback Hollywood celebrities should learn to expect if they continue to disrespect The Deplorables.”

    Stuff on Youtube is IMO boring & juvenile, but at some point, there’s gonna be a talented filmmaker who will blow Hollywood out of the water. He’ll make Tarantino look like a total putz.

    gothamette

    October 29, 2017 at EDT pm

  2. I gave up on this show after the last episode. I can’t see the rest of the season being any good.

    Alex

    October 30, 2017 at EDT am

  3. Totally off topic, but there’s a story in Britain at the moment about the disgrace of Britain’s nulear fleet with 9 submariners being kicked out of the Navy after testing positive for cocaine. This comes after 4 oficers were disciplined after being discovered to be having affairs with other crew members. This includes its captain Commander Stuart Armstrong, 41, and Sub-Lieutenant Rebecca Edwards. The aspect that’s not being mentioned here is that it is only about 6 years ago that the Navy admitted women to Nuclear submarines. I thought at the time this seemed like a bad idea in such a claustrophobic and pressured environment, but of course no-one that mattered was ever going to make that argument. It was completely obvious that this policy was going to lead to morale-damaging situations but that this would undermine the whole seriousness and discipline of the crew. It’s not surprising that when the Commander is having sex with one of the crew that the others are going to learn the lesson that they are basically serving in an underwater student dormitory where nothing matters and anything goes. Why not get coked up on a nuclear sub? Of course to have made such an argument against women on nuclear subs would not only have been sexist but by implication homophobic too, as it would imply that these kind of relationships can be damaging as well.

    What is scary about this is that this is a nuclear submarine. In the right circumstances these people would not even be required to seek the permission of the government to launch a nuclear strike on another country. That we can so blithely adopt a policy on the basis of nothing more than ‘hey it’s 2011/12/whatever, and the fact that even after this has happened we can know with certainty that none of this will be allowed to change these policies just goes to show that liberals take nothing seriously and hold it as a source of pride that nothing and no cirumstance on earth can ever even be allowed to make them relfect on the wisdom of their beliefs. Fifty years ago these kind of events would warrant huge quantities of ink being spilt by serious-minded men steeped in British naval and constitutional history trying to understand what this means. Today, it’s a headline on a website and it’s forgotten by next week. Nothing to see here.

    To make this comment on-topic, I would just like to point out that there is the possibility to be made out of a series like Star Trek that would address topics like these kind of relations and alien species from a HBD perspective. There was in fact a scene in the new series where Seth Macfarlane was arguing with his ex wife when I thought ‘this would be a crazy way to run a ship’. I think he was playing this plotline for laughs rather than satire, but it’s actually very topical and would be interesting to explore.

    prolier than thou

    October 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • After watching the Orville and witnessing the U.S. Navy’s streak of affirmative action shipwrecks, I’m already anticipating a Navy shipwreck caused by a quarrel between the captain and his former lover.

      The media’s response (if it has one), will be “Why couldn’t he keep it in his pants?”

      Now that we understand HBD, the cantina-like situations of Star Wars seem less and less likely. The future of white people is already uncertain due to relatively small differences in TFR; how much more uncertain would humanity’s future be in a galaxy where hostile species might exceed our capacity for violence and reproduction by orders of magnitude?

      Otherwise peacefully-inclined species would have to become more warlike and xenophobic or risk virtue-signaling themselves to oblivion. See Warhammer 40k (“Hate the alien. Fear the alien. Kill the alien.”) There would never be a Federation, and any multi-species polity could be maintained only by the jackboot. If the Federation were real, its population would be replaced over time by the most vicious and fast-breeding of its constituent worlds.

      Wency

      October 30, 2017 at EDT am

      • “Now that we understand HBD, the cantina-like situations of Star Wars seem less and less likely”

        Whilst I agree with the general point you are making, the cantina bar was in a port city and I suppose these have always been places where different races mixed together. But you could argue that the depiction of Mos Eisley is problematic and worthy of a hit-piece in the Huffington Post or the Guardian. Why did Lucas make the most multicultural town in the Star Wars galaxy a “wretched hive of scum and villainy”? Being a naive white farm boy from space Iowa, Luke should probably have chastised Obi Wan for saying this, and informed him that it was probably a really vibrant and diverse place.

        prolier than thou

        October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  4. I didn’t watch this one because the previews made clear it was a time loop episode and the Groundhog Day was the only one of them I ever found tolerable. Is Seth MacFarlane going to suffer any blow back for this Hollywood Sex scandal jokes?

    He did the Harvey Weinstein thing at the Oscars and now there is this Kevin Spacey joke which seems to hint at knowledge of his pedophilia (which was exposed by the gay Science Officer on the Discovery who says Spacey tried to have sex with him when he was 14)

    On the one hand you could argue MacFarlane was the only one who was publicly calling these guys out, but responding to ongoing sexual harassment and child rape with jokes isn’t the best look.

    PerezHBD

    October 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • The media seems to be very leery of this one. NPR didn’t report on it at all this morning, and it was not because more important news was crowding out the story — there was so much fluff they even rehashed Harvey Weinstein. But not a word on Spacey.

      The headlines on news websites usually give more attention to the “coming out” angle, which seems like a calculated attempt to make it as boring as possible.

      Richard

      October 30, 2017 at EDT am

      • When former NJ governor Jim McGreevey got busted for giving his thoroughly unqualified boyfriend a government job, he came out as a “gay American.” He probably did so in order to deflect from his crime and garner sympathy as an “oppressed minority.” I believe that Spacey is thinking along the same lines.

        Lewis Medlock

        October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I can’t figure out how to feel about this Spacey v. Rapp thing. Sounds like Spacey got drunk and hit on a 14yo (thirty years ago when Spacey was in his 20s). And he took no for an answer. I guess that’s worse than anything I’ve ever done, but it there must be a ton of people in Hollywood who done way worse. Part of me wants to say, ah well, he was drunk, I guess he wasn’t paying attention to the age thing. On the other hand, I’d be super pissed if some drunk creep was coming on to my 14 year old son or daughter. But shouldn’t there at least be an unofficial statue of limitations on bringing something like this up to humiliate somebody? Kevin Spacey is probably being honest when he says he doesn’t remember everybody he drunkenly hit on 30 years ago, so now he’s stuck saying “I did that? Wow, if so, I’m really sorry.”

        Is hitting on a 14 year old worse than, say, drunk driving? I know people who have driven drunk and gotten away with it, and it never occurred to me that I should publicly shame them, not if they aren’t doing it any more. Drive a car drunk and you might end up killing a 14 year old, or a younger child, etc.

        Greg Pandatshang

        October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Honest question, why are adults letting 14 year olds attend parties with alcohol and an older post-HS crowd?

        The sexual puritanism from the left is actually quite scary. There’s not a single heterosexual male in his late teens / early 20s who hasn’t looked at a 16 year old girl and been willing to commit natural acts that would get him crucified by the leftist morality police.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        October 31, 2017 at EDT am

  5. I liked the episode, although I agree that the time loop trope has been done to death, not only in Science Fiction in general, but Star Trek. So, enough with the time loops. That shows a major streak of unoriginality unlike the previous episodes. And I agree with Lion about Mudd. In the Original Series he was shown to be crook and liar, but a many times over mass murderer and traitor? That’s carrying things too far. Although the did nicely close the Stella question from the previous episode when Mudd and Lorca were being held by the Klingons. He was BS’ing about his great love for her the whole time.

    On the other hand, the party and the drinking made sense to me. Sure, the episode had some retro disco, but it also had opera. The 23rd Century may regard Staying Alive as a classical work.

    Mike Street Station

    October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • “And I agree with Lion about Mudd. In the Original Series he was shown to be crook and liar, but a many times over mass murderer and traitor?”

      I think this is to show that this series is “grittier” than your father’s Star Trek. Fortunately we have two series to choose from this season: dark (Star Trek: Discovery) and light (The Orville).

      Comic Book Nerd

      October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  6. I continue to be impressed with the production values of this series. Then again, I’m easily distracted by shiny objects. (Oh, look! Some lens flair!) Evidently CBS spent $8 million per episode, and it shows. I hope their production budget doesn’t get cut in the second season.

    Comic Book Nerd

    October 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  7. Actually, I have to say this episode was good. The departure from the ultra-dark ultra-serious tone of this show was nice. Making Mudd a murderer was totally out of character for him. I hate that he gets off easy despite being a bloodthirsty killer in this episode.

    But I believe this is the episode people need to decide whether to renew with, which is probably why it was better than usual.

    JayMan

    October 31, 2017 at EDT pm


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