Lion of the Blogosphere

The benefit of blue-pillism

Commenter Andy Byron writes: “It’s quite lonely being in the real world if everyone else is living in the Matrix.”

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 28, 2017 at 10:40 PM

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  1. It’s quite lonely being in the real world if everyone else is living in the Matrix

    Yep.

    Good night, folks.

    SJ, Esquire

    November 28, 2017 at 10:58 PM

  2. The only real benefit to red pill stuff is the theoretical greater possibility for personal and group financial and political benefit, which few “real world” dwellers will ever realize.

    In other words, the benefit to knowing the “true rules” of the game is being able to better play the game. However, I would venture that few “red pill” individuals are red pill enough, in terms of game rules knowledge, to be remarkably effective (this includes myself). Most likely languish in a close to solitary “real world” built on half-understandings of the difference between the real world and the Matrix.

    Dave

    November 28, 2017 at 11:04 PM

  3. Many of your commenters are the blue pill variety, when it comes to the Anglosphere. Red Pillism tells you that the entire English speaking world is prole, and anything that is associated with it, is antithesis to modern civilization.

    And for your Canadian readers Roli and Rosenmops, English speaking Canada sucks according to this red pill blogging fella. He makes an exception for Québec, whose French speaking inhabitants live like normal humans with a touch of culture, unlike the vapid money-driven Anglophones caught in a rodent void (rat race).

    https://shitaboutcanada.com/canada-sucks-a-regional-breakdown/

    Now, if Anglo Canada sucks, why does this tell you about America, with similar problems magnified 100 times?

    JS

    November 28, 2017 at 11:06 PM

    • On the proleness of America — I was recently watching a video of Tommy Robinson being interviewed in Poland. Tommy Robinson’s an English working-class anti-Muslim activist — from Lutton, which I believe is a suburb of London. What struck me is that the rhythms of his speech, facial movements, and overall body-tension-shifts seem very American, much more so that those of the higher-class Englishmen who give us our stereotype of the Englishman.

      It had always seemed strange to me that American WASPs are so different from Englishmen. Now, though, I’ve realized that they aren’t; they’re just different from higher-than-working-class Englishmen. American WASPS are like working-class Englishmen. Maybe that’s the population (including many 17th/18th century rural people who joined the urban working-class later on) from which American WASPs are mainly derived.

      Garr

      November 29, 2017 at 6:34 AM

      • Read “Albion’s Seed”. Only the Scots-Irish and the Anglo-Scottish Borderers who settled the American back country were truly prole. New England was settled by Puritan gentry, the Wessex aristocrats grabbed Virginia, and the Quakers were strictly well-behaved and middle class. Quebec, on the other hand, was settled by race-mixing fur-trappers.

        Mister Triple 800

        November 29, 2017 at 10:59 AM

    • In JS’s attempt to troll, he ignores the fact that English, or Anglo, class rules literally define class status for the fully developed world. He also conflates proles and the middle class (which both exist in any developed society). Proles and the middle class are not the same thing, and the middle class and “class” are not the same thing. There are more middle class, or non-prole masses, in the Anglosphere than anywhere else. There are more upper middle class people in the Anglosphere than anywhere else. There are more both upper class and wealthy (often different animals) people in the Anglosphere than anywhere else. If eating French Food meant class, then Puerto Ricans would be high class for their preference for fried plantains. French culture does not equate to class, nor non-prolishness. Also, choosing to observing proles and then declaring the Anglosphere relatively “prole” is an invalid method. Tell me, what whole nation is less prole than Anglos? Attempt to answer with direct knowledge and without romanticizing your subjects.

      JS, it’s like you haven’t done or refreshed yourself with the required reading, or perhaps just the necessary thought in regard to it. It sounds like, to me and after reading your pattern of posting in the last year, that you dislike western Western Europeans. In favor of whom? Just curious.

      Dave

      November 29, 2017 at 9:53 AM

      • No need for a direct answer. No need to define prole in class terms (class is all about wealth accumulation throughout the Anglo outposts). A son of a wealthy pizzeria owner from Staten Islands gets to live in a Manhattan loft, where all his neighbors are SWPLs, this what you call class in America.

        Prole is a cultural malaise, it’s not about class. There is no concept of class in the Anglosphere.

        If the Anglo world is the least prole, then why is Prince Harry engaged to a woman who comes from a prole background?

        JS

        November 29, 2017 at 12:18 PM

    • Honnhh-Honnhh-Honnhh… Pepe le Pew strikes again!

      Mister Triple 800

      November 29, 2017 at 10:53 AM

  4. Nothing, nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. Our ideas are going to tear down this matrix. Don’t lose heart, patriots.

    Two in the Bush

    November 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM

    • That’s a very blue pill idea. Being right has nothing to do with the success of an idea. Look at communism. Despite a pretty clear, century long history of human and economic disaster, it’s still pretty popular in journalism and academia. Look at the New York Times recent nostalgic treatment of Communism. That failed philosophy has a brighter future than any reactionary politics. Same with Islam. It seems that’s an idea whose time has come too.

      Mike Street Station

      November 29, 2017 at 6:20 AM

      • The enthusiasm for communism on the part of our smart set is a subject for another time, but the reason for its success in so much of the world is because of the corruption & rottenness of the existing regimes. Please do not take this as a defense of Communism. I’m anti-communist. But the way it worked out, Communism became the vehicle for nationalism in much of the world.

        I’m not sure how China could have pulled itself out of its medieval swamp without some kind of strong man rule.

        gothamette

        November 29, 2017 at 7:58 AM

      • Exactly. Good luck becoming king of the mountain when your great idea collides with someone else’s self-interest.

        Richard

        November 29, 2017 at 1:03 PM

  5. I’ve had success haranging about HBD, but no success in galvanizing Jews for rebuilding the Temple as soon as possible. I think your true essence is never fully revealed. By the time the people around you mature to appreciate it, you are gone. I have a lot to ask my grandfather about the Spanish Civil War, but he is gone and I’ll never know. Nobody who operated behind Franco’s lines has told their story, as far as I know. Not only of what but more importantly of why? Why did a man with a wife and two kids did it? I know what they say, but I think the real depth was never revealed. There was a whole inner world that’s gone. My fate will be the same, unless I live very long, I’ll be gone without anyone knowing who I reaty was. And even then a thinking man has only G-d who knows and understands him. You can’t even put these things into words at a certain level. I think this is OK. It’s not meant to be any other way.

    Yakov

    November 28, 2017 at 11:23 PM

    • I’ve thought similarly. Why don’t you start a notebook? Write things down as you think of them. Maybe later you can organize them into a book.

      destructure

      November 29, 2017 at 6:20 AM

    • I think that God inherits all of our memories, even the buried ones, so that none of our experiences will be lost. He remembers all of our lives as his own multiple pasts.

      Garr

      November 29, 2017 at 6:38 AM

    • We’re not allowed to rebuild the Temple on our own, Yakov. You should know that Mashiah has to come.

      gothamette

      November 29, 2017 at 7:59 AM

      • Whoever in fact gets the Temple rebuilt and annexes Yehudah and Shomron is in fact the Messiah. That’s it — nothing more to it.

        Garr

        November 29, 2017 at 9:03 AM

      • Rilly? I thought Mashiah was supposed to come, lead the Jews peacefully to the Promised Land, and then the Temple gets rebuilt as if by magicke.

        Roger Waters is a scumbag.

        gothamette

        November 29, 2017 at 10:25 AM

      • This is Agadata, not Halacha. It’s in our hands to do so and is no different then the restoration of the Second Temple period. This is the proper Divine Service, not the surrogate that we have today.

        At the time of the Second Temple the Jews were fanatical and militant. The purpose of this Agadata, among many similar others, is to discourage the Jews from futile rebellions against Gentile powers, but they don’t come to anul the most basic foundation of the Jewish religion by making it dependent on miraculous events, or at least this is what I think.

        Yakov

        November 29, 2017 at 10:40 AM

    • I feel that way about my father & the Depression. He had a lot of fascinating experiences that he hinted of and I never recorded them. Oh well.

      gothamette

      November 29, 2017 at 8:00 AM

      • He probably didn’t tell you about them because they were terrifying, and he didn’t want to relive those moments, or cause you anxiety. I’m guessing a lot of people felt this way about the Depression.

        Lowe

        November 29, 2017 at 1:31 PM

      • They were certainly tough years, but I still wish I had quizzed him about the time he and 3 or 4 other guys chipped in to buy a car (which you could do for $5 per in 19310, drove cross country to California to look for work, and back again, going through the massive Hooverville of Oklahoma. What sights he must have seen.

        gothamette

        November 29, 2017 at 2:50 PM

  6. Most conservative Christians, and most conservative Jews, and even many conservative “agnostics”, are quite aware of the real world. If you are a guy younger than 60 and you are not living in the Matrix ( I think I know what you meant by the Matrix), I guarantee you that many women will enjoy your conversation, unless you are completely incompetent at social skills. If you are a guy older than 60 then the odds are in your favor even if you live in the Matrix, as long as you enjoy the company of women who are not that much younger than yourself, if you don’t live in the Matrix, the odds are even more in your favor. If you are a woman that does not live in the Matrix, well there are similar rewards. Well, male or female, you may have other issues, that keep you from not being lonely, but that is a whole other comment, and I have no reason to think you have those issues …..

    In other words, I do not understand Andy Byron’s complaint. Perhaps he is annoyed that he is not praised by people who are huge fans of the progressive establishment. They will never praise you, Andy Byron, until you are pro-choice, until you think that the tool Obama is cool, until you think Bill Maher is a wit and poor Bill Nye the Science Guy actually is a science guy. Or unless you have a complete collection of really bad best-selling CDs that won Grammys, which you are enough of a loser to listen to, or unless you have a really cool blog praising progressive boring movies.

    howitzer daniel

    November 28, 2017 at 11:29 PM

  7. I always imagined that the red pill is so hard to take is because it is actually a suppository. Redpill == suppository explains Richard Spencer so well.

    NotWesley

    November 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM

    • Richard Spencer became truly suspect the moment he decided that cutting his hair like a retro-Nazi was a good idea, in the public spotlight, at the only modern time in which a non-establishment Right Wing president had been elected. At that point, I realized that his true function was to be a convenient straw man for the Left Wing press.

      Dave

      November 29, 2017 at 10:01 AM

  8. here’s the data from bermuda.

    Click to access 2006-riley-alls.pdf

    ron burgundy

    November 29, 2017 at 1:26 AM

  9. There are times when I wish I had never read any of you fools. But then again, naïveté is so unmanly.

    Joe

    November 29, 2017 at 1:51 AM

  10. In the same way that moderns laugh at the ignorant people who oppressed Galileo, the people of the future will be laughing at those who deny HBD now.

    It is simply the truth. No one is going to know the names of any of the NYT op-ed writers in 500 years, but people WILL know who Steve Sailer is.

    jjbees

    November 29, 2017 at 2:41 AM

  11. It’s not the real world but an post-WW II insane asylum that stretches over Western Europe and Anglosphere. Leave those that are plugged in and acquaint yourself with real people who grew up in normal families and sane societies.

    Take a trip to Central/Eastern Europe and feel the degeneracy wash off of you.

    Rona

    November 29, 2017 at 3:21 AM

  12. I kinda disagree. If the subject comes up in private, about 80% of my male associates either admit they believe in HBD or at least won’t deny it. The percentage is somewhat lower with females, presumably because they are much more sensitive to social pressure.

    Anyway, it’s possible to lead a perfectly normal life without getting denounced as a believer in HBD. It’s not like anyone will criticize you as an ordinary person for buying a house in a “nice town” with “good schools” and avoiding “bad neighborhoods” and government offices that are “urban” even though everyone knows exactly what is meant by those euphemisms.

    fortaleza84

    November 29, 2017 at 3:52 AM

    • You’re exactly right, but the problem is the “nice neighborhoods” with “good schools” are becoming prohibitively expensive for many people, and it’s only going to get worse.

      Two in the Bush

      November 29, 2017 at 7:43 AM

      • That will force people to make a decision: either justify urban living with a truly high income (that will justify high tuition), or retreat to a truly white area.

        In NYC, I would personally put that income around 700K for a family who wants to save for a reasonable retirement. It sounds like a lot of money, and it is, but it begins to look like a sane number after you do the math to include: taxes, retirement savings for 20 years, Manhattan/Near Brooklyn housing that does not compromise on family space (you can save a little bit if you move to NJ (good idea if you can do a 1 hour commute), don’t mind living in a dodgy neighborhood in the other boroughs (defeats the purpose entirely), or want to / can live in a Jewish neighborhood in the other boroughs.

        In other areas of the nation, the number essentially adjusts according to housing costs, but also the opportunity to make anything close to a truly financially healthy number will decrease markedly. Thus, the decision, again, comes back to making a lot of money in an urban area or an average amount in a White area.

        If families make this decision, then the current socially fradulent system will fail both in practice and as the publicly acknowledged result of liberalism.

        The White people who lie in the socioeconomic spaces in-between in urban areas are those who constitute the rebar of the multicultural city.

        They fill the jobs that are too critical to leave to NAMs. Critical infrastructure engineers, technicians, and other such workers. Leaders in positions that need to e fairly resistant to corruption, lest obvious system failures quickly result. A core of fireman, a core of police, and a core of teachers.

        Without the latticework of these (essentially poor) Whites constantly apologizing for the NAM population that they live in-between, the modern urban chimera quickly becomes an obvious abortion of an all around dysfunctional working class and wealthy elites.

        If White people begin to vote on culture with their feet, the idealism of the multicultural urban environment will fail and there would be a forced social readjustment (ideally).

        In reality, in NYC, I witness the general dearth of competent White people being constantly filled with a stream of first generation Russians and Chinese (there is nothing like watching critical infrastructure workers converse in Russian). That’s one solution, but it also highlights the fact that my analysis is essentially correct. They need alternatives to minority workers so bad, in areas with an abundance of unemployed NAMS, that they are willing to engage in the constant large scale importation of workers from Asia.

        Dave

        November 29, 2017 at 10:24 AM

      • ‘They need alternatives to minority workers so bad, in areas with an abundance of unemployed NAMS, that they are willing to engage in the constant large scale importation of workers from Asia.’

        They had to import Indians to Africa, because blacks were useless as workers.

        Yakov

        November 29, 2017 at 11:28 AM

      • You’re exactly right, but the problem is the “nice neighborhoods” with “good schools” are becoming prohibitively expensive for many people, and it’s only going to get worse

        _________________

        At a societal level, you are basically right — HBD denialism is terrible for the group as a whole. My point was that at an individual level, it’s not lonely to believe in HBD. All of my friends and family know that I believe in it and there has been very little in the way of negative consequences. That of course would change if I started publicly campaigning or advocating for HBD.

        Although I might quibble a bit about where things are going in the future in terms of neighborhoods and schools. The real neighborhood destroyers are blacks, and their percentage of the population is steadily dropping with the influx of people from Asia and Latin America.

        fortaleza84

        November 29, 2017 at 11:43 AM

    • “It’s possible too lead a perfectly normal life” until the shit hits your fan, and you realize that you’ve been living in a bubble. The Obama Administration was a near-death experience, and I say this as someone who agreed with a lot of what he did (about Medicaid, for example). No municipality was safe from refugees, Section 8, etc. Not to mention was Auster called the “homosexualization” of the military – the list is endless. He was truly out to get us. And he may have succeeded.

      You can’t live a normal life in abnormal times.

      gothamette

      November 29, 2017 at 8:05 AM

  13. In 2003 when the USA was gearing up to attack Iraq the media were all saying it was going to be a big protracted war and no-one knew what the outcome would be, and the stock market was depressed as a result of the uncertainty. But I thought that since the Iraqis have a fairly low average IQ and its therefore a bit of a ramshackle country they will fold quickly so I put £2000 into shares. Fold quickly they did and the shares went up shortly after it was all over and I made a quick £1000 odd.

    So I made money out of knowledge of HBD.

    But then I had a bet that Mr Obama would never become President because white Americans will say one thing to polsters and do another in the voting booth. So I lost £25.00. OTOH the well known betting tipster Jared Taylor had tipped Mr Obama and he is obviously aware of the salience of race so I should have listened to him.

    martin2

    November 29, 2017 at 7:25 AM

    • Oh yeah the war in Iraq wasn’t long and protracted at all. Good call.

      Magnavox

      November 29, 2017 at 8:28 AM

      • The war ended quickly, people are confusing the war with the post-war occupation.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 29, 2017 at 9:07 AM

      • Usage determines meaning and I don’t see anyone else using your terminology. The invasion ended quickly the war, which encompasses the invasion and the occupation, dragged on (until 2011 according to wikipedia although there are still US troops in Iraq).

        Magnavox

        November 29, 2017 at 10:23 AM

      • There’s an infinite amount of resources we could spend occupying and nation building other countries, but the actual war, under normal definitions of ware before WWII, we won very quickly.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 29, 2017 at 11:16 AM

  14. In Blue Pill news,

    Matt Lauer was summarily fired from the Today show for, whaddya think.

    I learned about this via the net, and so turned on the toob to hear more about it, and learned about what seems a funny show: Better Late Than Never, on network TV. I’ll try it before it gets yanked because one or all of them have been Watsoned or Richwined for whaddya think.

    The serial killer in Florida was found. He brought a gun to a restaurant. Not too bright. He’s Diverse.

    A former “war criminal” drank poison during a hearing. The hearing was curtailed to give him medical attention. Why? He was a war criminal, let nature take its course.

    gothamette

    November 29, 2017 at 8:11 AM

  15. The thing about the blue-pilled is that one group will take smart actions without understanding why they’re smart. E.g., you can recognize that a black neighborhood is dangerous and that blacks are bad neighbors while blaming Republicans or Democrats for why this is so.

    A second group will take this a step farther and say, “Well, there’s no such thing as race, so the fact that I’m now surrounded by young men with large amounts of melanin in their skin is no indication of anything at all.”

    The biggest gains come from NOT being part of the second group. You can still sometimes squeeze an advantage out of being red-pilled rather than part of the first group, but those opportunities are rarer. They’ll tend to come up if things change. For example, a member of the first group might honestly believe that the end of colonialism in Africa, or the civil rights movement, or the election of Obama will cause blacks to converge towards whites, and make some sort of foolish decision — perhaps an investment decision — based on that belief.

    But it mostly seems that being red-pilled is a social good. It’s very good to live in a red-pilled society, but it’s not all that personally good, for you, to be red-pilled.

    Wency

    November 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM

    • Heartiste/Roissy picked up a perfect example of someone from Group #2: the ignorant blue-pilled.

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/when-an-uppity-feminist-meets-an-impervious-poc/

      An anti-racist feminist woman accuses a black man of “manspreading” on the NY Subway, gets punched in the face, blames “NYC”. I’m sure her vision of it is that “the patriarchy” was responsible for her getting hit, even though a white man stepped in to protect her.

      But again, you don’t have to be red-pilled to know that starting arguments with black men on the subway is a bad idea if you’re not looking for a fight.

      Wency

      November 29, 2017 at 9:08 AM

      • “you don’t have to be red-pilled to know that starting arguments with black men on the subway is a bad idea if you’re not looking for a fight.”

        Disagree. Ignorance about blacks’ feeling of entitlement in using their hands is one of the hallmarks of the Blue. For this particular woman, general anti-male feeling might have caused her to raise a fuss, but a habit of viewing blacks as “sun people” is probably what blinded her to the danger of doing so.

        Explainer 21

        November 29, 2017 at 11:16 AM

      • There’s not really anything to disagree about, unless you misunderstood my point. Plenty of people believe that the causes of black underperformance are 100% environmental (thus are blue-pilled), and that you should nonetheless avoid blacks at all costs. I know many such people personally.

        Wency

        December 1, 2017 at 8:32 AM

  16. Yeah, somebody in the other thread said that your family won’t try to get you fired from your job, and while that’s true, it’s hopeless to try to talk to my family about this stuff. They’re all either liberals or hopelessly cucked mainstream conservatives who think that the reason Asians and Jews succeed is that they have a “culture that values education” and that these white American evangelical couples adopting 8 African babies are doing a wonderful thing. Anything you try to tell them about HBD, no matter how direct, goes in one ear and out the other; it’s just so far removed from their reality.

    Hermes

    November 29, 2017 at 9:31 AM

  17. “The Matrix” was perhaps the most boring movie I ever attempted to watch. Both times I tried, I fell asleep before it ended.

    Mister Triple 800

    November 29, 2017 at 11:02 AM

    • I also was not a great fan, I don’t get why it’s so popular.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 29, 2017 at 11:23 AM

    • It’s popular because it has a strong visual style, lots of action, and some quotable lines. It was middlebrow, as sci-fi action movies go. Not incredibly deep, but not aggressively stupid either.

      You maybe had to be the right age when it came out. It was catnip for teenage boys of above-average intelligence in the late 90s. And it’s still a lot smarter and more interesting than all the superhero movies that are trying to fill that niche today.

      Wency

      November 30, 2017 at 1:09 AM


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