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Nazi sympathizer fired

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/30/nazi-sympathizer-loses-job/

The guy who foolishly allowed himself to be profiled in the NY Times last week for being a Nazi sympathizer was fired from his food service job. Not only was he fired, but his wife and brother-in-law were also fired.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 30, 2017 at EDT am

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  1. How about a link to this Pulitzer-Prize-Winning article?

    Gilbert Ratchet

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

      • Thanks!

        Gilbert Ratchet

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • That link is to a series of articles.
        This is the link to the article in question: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/11dna.html
        That article is quite stupid I think, in a typically NYT, IQ-115 kind of way. Like the boilerplate quote by genius scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr: “We are living through an era of the ascendance of biology” – that’s a bland and meaningless statement that would have equally been true 50 years ago, or 100 years ago, but to the typical IQ-115 NYT reader it sounds profound. Same for the article’s other dumb quotes, where cherry-picked experts are allowed to claim that the environment influences IQ much more than genes do; that was a stupid thing to believe even back in 2007.
        I think you were playing with fire by giving your real-world info to an NYT journalist. Even though they didn’t dox you then, I suppose they could still do so in the future, which kind of makes you beholden to their irrational SJW whims until forever.
        The article also made me a bit nostalgic for the HBD blogosphere of 2007: La Griffe du Lion, Gucci Little Piggy, In Mala Fide, Occidental Ascent, One STDV. Seems like a simpler age back then, but that’s probably just sentimentality speaking.

        Bandango

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Comments sections back then were smaller and more intelligent and insightful. Present company excluded.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        December 1, 2017 at EDT am

  2. But I’m sure that none of the wives and brother in laws of the Muslim terrorists would have been fired.

    Yakov

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

  3. So if he was working in a restaurant does that mean he wasn’t a good welder? I thought welding was supposed to be one of the best blue collor jobs.

    Magnavox

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • It’s very good, but it’s physically demanding.

      Yakov

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Didn’t mean to imply that HVAC wasn’t also a good job, yakov.

        Magnavox

        December 1, 2017 at EDT am

  4. This country is now a soft Stalinist regime. The powers that be punish not only thought criminals, they crush their families as well.

    Oswald Spengler

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • Reactionary groups in America don’t really who know their enemies are. They either do things like this or blame the machinations (or the minions) of the elites for their problems.

      His collection of books include The Roots of American Civilization. I’ve never read it, but it seems like America was founded by people who believed divide n conquer is a lucrative business. By pitting the lowest rung of Whites with black slaves for jobs and you get today in a more refined form, Anglo Capitalism.

      JS

      November 30, 2017 at EDT am

  5. Hadn’t known about that article before. Having read it, I have two impressions: (1) somewhat lightweight for a Pulitzer, (2) get a load of the Stanford biologist with his new job category of DNA agitprop team, to dampen worrisome research implications.

    Marty

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

  6. Never talk to media. It’s absolutely useless. Not that Nazi LARPers like Hovater would take my advice. He got – amazingly enough – a sympathetic article. He is still screwed. And he wasn’t able to deliver any memes or talking points as far as I can tell. So what’s the point?

    Media exposure is no longer necessary to spread a message. So the benefit is low. Articles and news clips remain online forever. The internet never forgets. So the risk and potential lifetime cost is greatly increased.

    Does Ohio have laws against firing somebody for political views?

    “wife and brother-in-law were also fired”
    We are approaching soviet block level unpersoning.

    Contrarian

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • Liberals were outraged that the article humanized him and didn’t make him a caricature of B-grade WWII Nazi movies.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 30, 2017 at EDT am

      • Google image search “Traditionalist Worker Party” and “Matthew Heimbach”. It’s definitely a self-caricaturing, LARPy, attention-seeking organization.

        These guys remind me of Gen-X self-alienating Satanists. “Why doesn’t society accept us? We are just regular people who live like everybody else. We just happen to engage in satanic rituals and have demons tattooed on our foreheads, … “

        Contrarian

        November 30, 2017 at EDT am

      • Heimbach and his “Traditional Larper Party” are real cringey and lame. I hope nobody got the impression from OP that Hovater was ever going to be a good spokesman for sensible political ideas, and that’s why it’s bad that he lost his job.

        Greg Pandatshang

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • It humanized him the lazy way, which is to not delve into any specifics of his neo nazism.

        Magnavox

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  7. Their go fund me page has exceeded its $1000 goal by a considerable amount. I might throw a few bucks their way when my Roy Moore (I was able to buy $850 of Moore at 37 cents per share, thanks to Lion for turning me on to PredictIt!) windfall comes in next month: https://goyfundme.com/projects/hovater-support-fund/

    I didn’t actually read the article because I don’t read the Times, but I did hear some smug liberal douche bags talking about it at dinner the other night. The girl seems pretty so she should be able to find a new waitress job pretty easily. They might want to move someplace like Gatlinburg or some other Conservative tourist destination where there aren’t any antifa around to pester them though.

    PerezHBD

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • Dude’s going to need a whole lot of Go(y) Fund Me to make up for the lost or reduced wages he will suffer for the rest of his life, to say nothing of the knock-on effects on people who happen to be too close to him.

      I’ve started to wonder if I will some day be publicly shamed just for making donations to socially unacceptable elements, such as Am Ren or this fund for Hovater.

      Greg Pandatshang

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • He works in a kitchen. None of his potential employers are reading the NY Times so he’s not going to have the same kind of problems a Lawyer or somebody working in the corporate world have in that regard. And $10,000 probably represents 1/3 of his yearly salary so it is nothing to sneeze at.

        PerezHBD

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I’ve started to wonder if I will some day be publicly shamed just for making donations to socially unacceptable element

        Already happened. Brendan Eich

        everybodyhatesscott

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “I’ve started to wonder if I will some day be publicly shamed just for making donations to socially unacceptable elements, such as Am Ren or this fund for Hovater.”

        There’s a record of every credit card transaction so the next time the Democrats take power…you’ll be vulnerable. That’s why even if they had the numbers, there wouldn’t by any alt right political action committees. Anyone who donated would be targeted.

        Mike Street Station

        December 2, 2017 at EDT am

  8. ResetEra super traumatized by the tax bill.

    My mom is also flipping out about the tax bill. Worse than she was about Obamacare repeal. Not sure why the Libs are so upset about this. Did they freak out this bad over Bush’s tax cuts?

    I am again re-evaluating my position on the meaning of the VA Gov election. In GA-06, we won because both sides had midterm level turnout. In VA, only the Dems had midterm level turnout. Had we turned our base out I think we’d have only lost by around the same margin that Trump did. If we are able to hold Trump’s margin then we’ll only lose the House popular vote by 2 to 3 which translates into us losing a net ~15 House seats. Also given the map we should still be able to net 5 Senate seats.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 30, 2017 at EDT am

    • Did they freak out this bad over Bush’s tax cuts?

      Yes but they were quickly displaced by Iraq as the freak-out locus.

      snorlaxwp

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • In my liberal period during the Bush years I read (godawful) books by Al Franken and Michael Moore from the early Bush first term that were like 3/4ths whining about the tax cuts. They had some deranged conspiracy theory that the tax cut legislation was written by Enron in exchange for campaign donations.

        snorlaxwp

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  9. I think it was unwise of you to talk to her anyway. Your name’s not on file somewhere in the NYT’s archives, I hope? Harmon and the 2007 editorship may have respected your wishes but that doesn’t mean the info will always be in the custody of people so scrupulous.

    Richard

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • And for what? As far as I can tell they only quoted your blog.

      Richard

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Status. Few people start blogs that get quoted in the NY Times. It is especially important to somebody from NYC.

        PerezHBD

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • The left was still pretty fanatical in ’07 but nowhere near, and nobody thought it would become, what it is today. I doubt Lion would talk to the NYT now.

      snorlaxwp

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Word of warning to Lion; be prepared that if Trump ever tweets a link to your blog the NYT is definitely going to dox you. So as a career fallback you should make sure Peter Thiel’s also reading your blog.

      snorlaxwp

      December 1, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Trump is never going to link to my blog.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 1, 2017 at EDT pm

      • That was mostly tongue-in-cheek of course but you never know, he links/retweets obscure figures all the time. Probably the bigger risk is he retweets one of your tweets.

        snorlaxwp

        December 1, 2017 at EDT pm

  10. I hesitate to ask a question you likely shouldn’t answer, but how did they find you? It’s not like H*** S**** appears in the phone book.

    Curle

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Hasn’t he always had an email address somewhere on his page? Right now his contact info is on the top right below the big Lion icon.

      Richard

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  11. I feel sorry for the guy. I don’t think he’s really a Nazi. I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about.

    gothamette

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

    • In the sense that Nazis were a political party in Germany that was outlawed before I was born and no longer exists, no one is really a Nazi.

      But yes, he really does like to wave around Nazi flags at white nationalist rallies.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I got the sense from the article that for him the Nazi stuff was at least partially ironic/attention-seeking (like 4chan /pol/ used to be when he was in high school) rather than serious (like /pol/ is today), hence the “LARP Armband,” winking/ridiculous statements like “Hitler was a pretty chill guy,” and of course going on at length about how Seinfeld is his favorite TV show, which no actual neo-Nazi or even Richard Spencer type would be caught dead saying.

        That said waving around Nazi paraphernalia is about the dumbest and most counterproductive possible strategy for political action, next to talking to NYT reporters (under one’s real name and photograph, no less). Hopefully what happened to this guy will alert others not to follow in his dumbass footsteps.

        snorlaxwp

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • @snorlaxwp:
        Why would Richard Spencer necessarily dislike Seinfeld? The term “alternative right” was first coined by jewish paleocon Paul Gottfried who was Spencer’s mentor and who worked closely with him until fairly recently, before Spencer drank the media exposure cool aid and decided to become the new David Duke.

        Richard Spencer is, unlike Hovater, a trust funder. He can afford to engage in offline trolling antics.

        If Hovater was a better troll he would have picked Larry David’s “Curb Your Enthusiasm” as his favorite show and declared it the source of his anti-semitism. That could have kicked of a major shitstorm.

        Contrarian

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • 1. I’m not sure how genuine Spencer’s antisemitism (or his anything, for that matter) is, but he’d lose most of his current followers if he dropped it.
        2a. Hovater already did kick off a major shitstorm.
        2b. If anyone were turned into an antisemite by CYE they have a heart made of ice.

        snorlaxwp

        November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

      • @snorlaxwp:
        Trolls get their opponents to kick off a circular firing squad, to unmask themselves and to make fools of themselves in front of the public. Hovater on the other hand got his opponents to join ranks and gang up on him.

        Spencer’s followers are late Millenials and Gen-Z, most of whom probably haven’t seen a single episode of Seinfeld. Richard Spencer counter-signals everyone and everybody and always adopts unexpected positions. He is pro-EU and came out pro-Macron and he bashes Trump and Orban. It is part of his dialectical, hegelian shtick. He used to do movie reviews in which he would re-interpret popular movies from an alt-right perspective.

        The alt-right and alt-right trolling engages with popular culture and practices culture jamming. This is what sets it apart from old school WN 1.0, classic anti-semites, christian conservative reactionaries, John Birch types and similar groups who would just hate, denounce and recoil from contemporary popular culture.

        “2b. If anyone were turned into an antisemite by CYE they have a heart made of ice.”

        CYE has a small audience, but few haters. I suspect that most people find it too intense and cringe-inducing to watch in the first place. I was initially surprised when Larry David was attacked for his SNL monologue. Then I realized that his horrified critics probably don’t watch the show.

        Contrarian

        December 1, 2017 at EDT am

    • The nazis weren’t even nazis.

      fakeemail

      November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  12. https://www.theonion.com/breitbart-criticized-for-publishing-humanizing-profile-1820881338
    Blasting the publication for its gentle treatment of the divisive figure, far-right news outlet Breitbart was criticized Thursday for publishing a humanizing profile of a libtard beta-cuck. “It’s absolutely absurd that Breitbart of all places would think it was okay to portray this low-T liberal shill as a sympathetic figure,” said Roy Hagar of Traverse City, MI, one of many readers expressing anger and confusion over the site’s decision to treat the globalist SJW like he was just some regular everyday neo-Nazi. “Those blue-pill snowflakes already have enough of a bullhorn without Breitbart giving them even more media attention, and we can’t start normalizing their behavior. Just because he goes to Olive Garden with his family doesn’t mean that he’s not actively promoting white genocide.” At press time, Breitbart issued a retraction of the piece, explaining that it was never its intention to lend credence to the views of soy boys.

    curri

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  13. “… foolishly … ”

    This is unclear. He could rationally believe the publicity is worth the lost job. You can’t become a revolutionary leader (if that is your ambition) without taking chances.

    James B. Shearer

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  14. “… To her credit and the credit of the NY Times, they respected my request to keep my name out of the article (which won the Pulitzer Prize).”

    If they promise not to use your name and then violate that promise and you are harmed as a result you may be able to sue them for money damages. See Cohen v. Cowles .

    James B. Shearer

    November 30, 2017 at EDT pm

  15. How can the term “Nazi” have any meaning or credibility when the actual men who fought and killed nazis would certainly be called nazis today?

    Further, since we know that any person who espouses the mildest pro-white sentiment, or even a cuckservative, is called a nazi and caricatured as evil, then therefore does it not makes sense that historic nazis were similarly caricaturized and their reality was closer to a pro-white organization fighting the sinister forces of leftism/globalism etc? be honest and think about it

    fakeemail

    December 1, 2017 at EDT am

    • Two some extent, we can blame this on George Lincoln Rockwell. Rockwell was a Navy commander who fought against the Nazis. After the war, he decided to “become” a Nazi and established the American Nazi Party, explicitly linking Hitlerism to pro-white advocacy in the U.S.

      Greg Pandatshang

      December 1, 2017 at EDT pm

  16. Reminder that a similar article about a communist would have zero repercussions.

    Cool Nerdy Guy

    December 1, 2017 at EDT pm


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