Lion of the Blogosphere

Thoughts on Jonny Anomaly’s article at Quillette

http://quillette.com/2017/11/29/politics-science-scientists-might-not-say-evidence-supports/

1. If James Damore (the guy from Google) was surprised that he got fired, it’s because he was stupid. Socially stupid, not intellectually stupid. He has probably become socially smarter as the result of destroying his career.

2. I think the author is afraid to come out and say that he believes in HBD, so he’s beating around the bush. However, I suppose the world needs articles like that in order to change minds.

3. This quote:

But the case for deferring to scientific consensus on politically contentious topics is much weaker. This is true because what scientists publicly say may differ from what they privately believe. It is also true because, as Nathan Cofnas argues, some of the research that bears on a topic might not get done due to the fact that those who authorize or accept funding for it might incur reputational costs for working on a topic that is likely to produce results that most people don’t want to believe.

That’s why you shouldn’t believe the “consensus” on “climate change.” It’s the same as the consensus that there’s no genetic difference in intelligence between blacks and whites, or no biological difference in interest in computer programming between men and women.

4. Quillette still seems like an alt-right website where the articles have a higher reading level and sophisticated plausible deniability.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 30, 2017 at 4:38 PM

Posted in Science

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  1. They also have articles and genes and crime you might like.

    Joe

    November 30, 2017 at 4:48 PM

  2. but psychology is not a science. meteorology is. man is the political animal. why argue with one’s political enemies on their own terms? is it because HBDers and climate deniers don’t really believe what they say?

    psychology: climatology :: astrology: astronomy

    ron burgundy

    November 30, 2017 at 4:50 PM

    • Psychology is the scientific study of human behavior.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 30, 2017 at 5:01 PM

      • It has like one formula, something like B=f(P,E). It is a classic pseudoscience.

        My Two Cents

        November 30, 2017 at 5:32 PM

      • Psychology is a science. Many psychologists are not scientists.

        jjbees

        November 30, 2017 at 5:48 PM

      • There are many different branches of psychology. Some are more rigorous than others. Biopsychology, cognitive psychology, and experimental psychology are all part of the realm of science.

        Lewis Medlock

        November 30, 2017 at 8:11 PM

      • only when the work of biologists, biochemists, etc. is described as psychology is psychology a science. PhDs in psychology are not scientists. the function of psychology departments is to allow stupid people to get degrees. it’s a yuge scam.

        ron burgundy

        November 30, 2017 at 11:34 PM

      • “It has like one formula, something like B=f(P,E). It is a classic pseudoscience.”

        …yeah, and that F=m X a. Classic pseudo-science.

        Bob

        December 1, 2017 at 4:47 AM

  3. If it were socially acceptable to discuss HBD, Quillette wouldn’t seem like an alt-right site. It would seem like the centrist site that it is. It simply isn’t sympathetic to traditionalism, nationalism, and populism in the way that the alt-right is. And here I’m talking about the pre-election alt-right. Today “alt-right” means Richard Spencer and ethnostate type white nationalism. The term should just be dropped by people who aren’t white nationalists.

    Horace Pinker

    November 30, 2017 at 5:55 PM

    • I wanna say something about the alt-right. They’re like, “WhiteWestern Civilization, Save and Maintain!” But they don’t know shit about it. They’re all fucking illiterate, every single one of those bloggers. Moldbug (yeah, I know, NRx not alt-right but same deal) never finished a book in his life — and I mention him only because he’s the fucking sage. (Him and his fucking Carlyle — I read 5 Carlyle books and there’s nothing NRx in the slightest about Carlyle; Moldbug never read him.) Those alt-right fucks have nothing to save. It’s all dead. They’re defending a corpse they can’t even recognize. They wouldn’t know the West if it bit them in the neck.

      Garr

      November 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM

      • Spencer comes off as well read. I could never get through a moldbug essay so I don’t know about him.

        It’s perfectly valid to want to preserve whiteness as physical type. The people talking purely about Western Civilization are generally the ones saying they care least about color and race.

        Magnavox

        December 1, 2017 at 12:35 AM

      • What’s NRx? Carlyle – you mean Thomas? Is he a fetish of the alt-right? I thought all they did was rant on about the JQ.

        gothamette

        December 1, 2017 at 5:52 AM

      • “NRx” = Neoreactionary. They’re sort of techno-libertarian monarchists. See Jim’s latest post at blog.jim.com for a feel. Yes, Thomas. He was kind of a saint for NRx in the beginning, a flag that Moldbug would wave around. NRx and alt-right have overlapping readerships and family resemblances, that’s all. (I was in a grumpy mood last night when I commented; sorry.)

        Garr

        December 1, 2017 at 8:51 AM

      • @Garr, how do you figure NRx isn’t alt right? It’s one of the building blocks of the alt right.

        Mike Street Station

        December 2, 2017 at 9:47 AM

  4. Enjoy.

    gothamette

    November 30, 2017 at 6:33 PM

  5. Maybe I am stupid too, but I was surprised Google fired Damore. Google would have been much better off sending him to a sensitivity seminar, making some bland public statement, and otherwise ignoring him.

    Schlafly

    November 30, 2017 at 6:34 PM

    • He created a legal risk for the company. To be honest, he was just a young guy who didn’t understand how the world works and how corporations work. He thought Google’s “Free Speech Forum” or whatever it was called was an actual free speech forum. Well, lesson learned kid.

      I stopped speaking my mind (in the professional context) at 23, I remember it very well. From then on, whenever anyone asks me anything, how i am, how something was, i always say, “It was great!”

      The kid will probably be fine in the end, an intelligent guy, just needs to learn how to bullshit.

      The Shepherd

      December 1, 2017 at 2:16 AM

  6. To know whether your comparison with climate science holds up, all you need to do is look at which sides want more research and which sides want to prevent research and hide the data.

    Aric

    November 30, 2017 at 7:25 PM

    • Well anti climate change people always say it’s impossible to get funding for their views since it all goes to people studying climate change. So clearly the climate change crowd does want research. And the anti climate change people are at least pretending to want it. So where does that leave us?

      Magnavox

      December 1, 2017 at 12:40 AM

  7. “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.”

    – George Orwell

    Logik

    November 30, 2017 at 8:07 PM

  8. “That’s why you shouldn’t believe the “consensus” on “climate change.” It’s the same as the consensus that there’s no genetic difference in intelligence between blacks and whites, or no biological difference in interest in computer programming between men and women.”

    Well except for the fact that there is no consensus that there’s no genetic difference in intelligence between blacks and whites, or that there’s no biological difference in interest in computer programming between men and women.

    James B. Shearer

    November 30, 2017 at 9:16 PM

    • yeah, theres no consensus there at all. at most the APA came out and said “no one knows what the cause is”. thats not a statement especially detached from the truth.

      james n.s.w

      December 1, 2017 at 8:35 PM

  9. Quillette is Alt-center.

    JayMan

    November 30, 2017 at 9:25 PM

    • american centrism is known in the rest of the world as the far right.

      ron burgundy

      November 30, 2017 at 11:36 PM

  10. Kate Steinle’s murderer was acquitted.

    gothamette

    November 30, 2017 at 9:58 PM

    • A leftist San Francisco jury did this to spite Trump and the deplorables.

      Rosenmops

      November 30, 2017 at 11:56 PM

      • Curse them.

        gothamette

        December 1, 2017 at 8:18 AM

      • Yeah, although I was surprised at the verdict, on second consideration how could it have gone any other way? Justice is about getting Trump in San Francisco.

        Mike Street Station

        December 2, 2017 at 9:50 AM

  11. San Francisco jury finds Kate Steinle killer* not guilty of first-degree murder, and not guilty of second-degree murder, and not guilty of manslaughter. http://www.unz.com/isteve/kate-steinle-killer-found-not-guilty-of-murder-not-guilty-of-manslaughter-not-guilty-of-assault-with-a-firearm/#comments

    *Illegal alien, previously deported 5 times, violent rap sheet a mile long, arrested at the scene, warm, stolen gun in hand, before dozens of eyewitnesses, confessed.

    snorlaxwp

    November 30, 2017 at 10:52 PM

    • I’m feeling much better about there never being a DACA deal.

      Andrew E.

      November 30, 2017 at 11:50 PM

    • Wow, not even manslaughter? He was firing a gun at seals, right? Isn’t that already a serious crime, without accidentally killing a person?

      Lowe

      December 1, 2017 at 2:03 AM

      • If he was firing at the seals and hit one, the San Francisco jury would have convicted him of something.

        gothamette

        December 1, 2017 at 8:19 AM

  12. ResetEra complaining about blacks who are not planning to vote in the AL special election. One even said that if they don’t vote for Democrats, they (blacks) have no right to complain.

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 1, 2017 at 12:00 AM

    • What are they saying about Kate Steinle?

      gothamette

      December 1, 2017 at 8:19 AM

      • They are deflecting saying it’s hypocritical to focus on this case when white men shoot people every day in the US.

        Pete

        December 1, 2017 at 12:23 PM

  13. If James Damore (the guy from Google) was surprised that he got fired, it’s because he was stupid. Socially stupid, not intellectually stupid

    Social insight is part of intellect though a lot of smart people have non-social personalities

    pumpkinperson

    December 1, 2017 at 9:55 AM

  14. “Deferring to scientific consensus on politically contentious topics?”

    Bull, what he means is abortion and climate change and the right winger is trying to imply science is just personal opinion so we shouldn’t believe the lefties.

    Pumplin

    December 2, 2017 at 11:50 AM


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