Lion of the Blogosphere

Prole white gentiles love Israel

I was listening to Breitbart radio this week. The big news story of the week was Trump’s announcement that the United States will move its embassy to Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Breitbart radio has a call-in format, and caller after caller expressed their love for Israel and the Jews and their delight that Trump finally moved the embassy to Jerusalem.

It was very eye-opening. Of course, I’ve read somewhere that evangelical Christians support Israel, but there’s a big difference between reading about it and hearing these prole white gentiles speak for themselves, and hear the genuine love of Israel in their voices, and their joy that Trump is finally moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

Reading internet sites like Steve Sailer, one gets the impression of a vast army of anti-Semites on the right. Listening to Breitbart radio was a reminder that those voices, although loud, are small in number and have little to do with the Trumpist movement. (And in between callers, there was a lot of despair by the radio show hosts that Breitbart is condemned by liberals as an anti-Semitic website.)

Meanwhile, the self-hatred of elite liberal Jews who oppose Trump and hate him for moving the embassy, is very sad. The worst enemy of Jews, after the Muslims, are Jews themselves.

Last night in Sweden, a synagogue was attacked by a crowd of 20+ Muslims throwing Molotov cocktails. It’s very lucky that no Jews were killed in the attack. This is what happens when you let too many Muslims into a country. Once again, prole white gentiles are the best friends of Jews, because they support Trump’s proposed (but never enacted upon) ban on Muslim immigration, while self-hating liberal elite Jews condemn Trump and clamor for more Jew-hating Muslims to be admitted.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

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  1. Seriously, I think in this context it really would be more appropriate for you not to use the word prole. We have a perfectly good substitute with the phrase “white working-class.” Prole really is a slur, and if you are talking about people who are allies on a subject that is important to you, it would behoove you to watch your words.

    The fact that the white working-class is very supportive of Israel is constantly bemoaned by the alt right. I do think it is possible as the economy and prospects get worse for the white working-class the WWC will begin to resent the money and constant support the United States gives to Israel with very little in return from Big Jewish organizations such as the ADL. The ADL recently wrote a tweet congratulating Trump on recognizing Israel Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. But the ADL is viciously anti-Trump otherwise, and supports such civilization destroying things as gay rights and transgender rights. This is phony and eventually these actions will have consequences.

    My two cents.

    gothamette

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Funny story, I thought the word ‘prole’ as it’s used here was common and well known, so I used it in passing in conversation. The person I was talking to was absolutely baffled and asked what ‘prole’ means. I wasn’t entirely sure how to explain it so said something to the effect of ‘you know… nascar types’ to which they started howling with glee.

      I get the same puzzled reaction when I call basement galley doors the bulkhead. Isn’t that what everyone calls them?

      toomanyspiders

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Didn’t everybody who went to college get exposed to a bunch of Marxist terminology and/or read 1984? Isn’t it only actual proletarians who don’t know the term “proletarian?”

        Gozo

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Prole means the lowest of the low. Actually Lion misuses it, but I got tired of correcting him. A skilled tradesman who makes 100K per year and knows how to run an S corp should not be considered a prole, but Lion says he is. Pretty much anyone who didn’t go to an Ivy League shul (that’s a joke, destructure) is a prole, to Lion.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • No, according to Fussell, there are two classes below proles, the destitute and the bottom out-of-sight.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I stand corrected.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • basement galley doors the bulkhead.

        I’m not entirely sure you are speaking English.

        S.J., Esquire

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • That’s a stereotype. NASCAR demographics pretty much mirror those for the US. The fans actually make slightly more money than average. Probably because the fan base skews slightly older, slightly more white and more male than average. Interestingly. there are more female NASCAR fans than I would have expected. Probably more than watch football, basketball or baseball.

        http://www.brentsherman.com/PDFS/NASCAR.pdf

        destructure

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • The way lion uses it is different in nuance from 1984. I assumed it was common usage (duh).

        toomanyspiders

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • There’s the Alpha, βeta and ωmega proletariat in America, all of them inferior by the way.

        It appears that in America, White supremacists just spout rhetoric.

        French Canadians like this lady expressed it through art.

        http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-video-ad-diversity-1.4089759

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Her mural in its full glory, White children on a swing, which has draw criticism from the darker groups:

        Not that she’s even Northern European in phenotype, just a Med-Latin individual common among the French. She could pass as a guidette or White Hispanic.

        https://www.anniehamel.com/bio

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I think that’s a New England thing. Every house in NE has bulkhead doors to the basement stairs if it doesn’t have a walk-out basement, but they seem to be unknown in the rest of the country (most of which don’t have basements…)

        jimbo

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Another definition for prole that we used here infers to inferiority or gauche.

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Not just the alt-right bemoans white-evangelical support for Israel — my impression is that liberal Jews (not sure about nonliberal Jewish intelligentsia) are openly contemptuous of the proles’ embrace.

      Greg Pandatshang

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Hard care left wing Jews are. Liberals shrewdly keep their mouths shut.

        BTW Sarah Silverman is now among the Trumpists & says she loves them but still hates Trump.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Sorry, meant hard core & that was NOT a Freudian typo.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • A more accurate word, more accurate than “white working-class,” would be the evangelicals. Evangelicals are the ones who really really love Israel and really really love Jews because the Bible says that Jews are God’s chosen people. Growing up in the south in an evangelical culture I never saw or heard anything resembling antisemitism until I started listening to the Howard Stern Show. That’s when I became aware that in the north, Jews were not much loved. Heck I didn’t even know any Jewish stereotypes until I started listening to that show. With Evangelicals, Jews are the people from the Bible. That’s a pretty strong build up. That’s why polling that shows Evangelicals have favorable impressions of Jews but Jews despise evangelicals don’t phase evangelicals. They figure it will all work itself out in the end(times!).

      Mike Street Station

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Even though gentiles are always shoveling money and admiration on them, Howard Stern and his all-time funniest guest, Gilbert Gottfried, are obsessed with the idea that gentiles hate Jews, using anti-Semitism as a springboard for jokes again and again.

        Gozo

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Howard Stern grew up among prole Jews who remembered World War II.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “the Bible says that Jews are God’s chosen people.”

        “Zardoz speaks to you, His chosen ones.”

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/quotes/qt0537904

        MEH 0910

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • According to radio talk show host Michael Savage, Jews like Stern suffer from “uncle Moe syndrome,” which is an inability to break away from the socialist worldview of your uncle or grandparents.

        Lewis Medlock

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I never encountered much anti-Semitism in “the real America,” LOL. Although people were surprised to meet a Jew with blue eyes. Is that anti-Semitic? (to expect a Jew to have brown eyes.

        When they would learn I was Jewish they would always say, “Really?” I’m not exaggering. Every. Single. Time.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Both of my grandmothers had blue eyes.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • We’re related.

        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm

        (I don’t believe this – they are always saying this is the way it happened & then revising. I think blue eyes are a reasonably common mutation and when they crop up, they get reproduced due to sexual selection. But what do I know? I just play an expert on the internet.)

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • I’ve never experienced anti-semitism in America.

        Yakov

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • ” Every. Single. Time.”

        Very alt-cheeky of you.

        Mike Street Station

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • “” Every. Single. Time.”
        Very alt-cheeky of you.”

        Rimshot.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • RE: Stern and “Uncle Mo”

        I guess Stern is part of the leftist media establishment now, but when I listened to him in the ‘80s through the early 2000s he had a real libertarian/conservative edge, bitching about the tax increases when George H. W. Bush broke his “no new taxes” pledge, saying “isn’t rent control communism?” and that sort of thing.

        Gozo

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • @Gozo,

        It’s a shtick. Don’t take it that seriously.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Per Wikipedia, Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a group of a few hundred people, who were 50% Middle Eastern/50% European (presumably almost all Hebrew men from the Middle East and local shiksa babes). Therefore, no distinctively “white” traits should be surprising among Jews: blue eyes, blonde hair, whatever – they are the inheritance of the heavy European admixture. Although, the original admixed Ashkenazi population was apparently in northern Italy, so you’d expect relatively little of stereotypical northern European traits. On the other hand, the Germanic invasions of Italy in the 5th and 6th centuries may have brought blue eye colour to the region before the Ashkenazi genesis. To say nothing of the abundant opportunity for intermittent/occasional intermarriage with northern Europeans later on.

        Greg Pandatshang

        December 12, 2017 at EDT am

      • “Therefore, no distinctively “white” traits should be surprising among Jews: blue eyes, blonde hair, whatever – they are the inheritance of the heavy European admixture. Although, the original admixed Ashkenazi population was apparently in northern Italy, so you’d expect relatively little of stereotypical northern European traits.”

        I’ve been skiing in northern Italy and the population is fairly Germanic; they seem more Austrian than what we traditionally think of as Italian.

        Mike Street Station

        December 12, 2017 at EDT am

      • NYC guido Italians are primarily Sicilian. Northern Italians look much more German.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 12, 2017 at EDT am

    • The ADL plays on the fears of Jews and tends to exaggerate anti-semetic sentiment in America. Basically they back the entire leftist agenda, including open borders and multiculturalism. I remember that Lawrence Auster was quite critical of the ADL.

      Lewis Medlock

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • To be fair, one can easily get an exaggerated feeling of anti-Semitism from Steve Sailer’s blog.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • We have the best antisemites over at Sailer’s, I’m telling you. Absolutely tremendous. Yuge. Believe me, you’ve never seen a better group of antisemites.

        jimbo

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I agree.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Proletariat simply means (the) propertyless.

      Dr Hook

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Then it’s doubly wrong for Lion to use it in the way he does. The overwhelming majority of the people who he refers to as prole r propertied and have some measure of wealth. The real proles in our society tend to be black or very poor whites.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Don’t confuse the destitute with the proles. Prole is the single larges social class in America, so big that Fussell had to divide it into low, mid, and high prole.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  2. A Muslim once made a comment to me: You see, anti-semitic Christians are in love with the Jews, when a new and bolder enemy threatens both of them at their doorsteps.

    JS

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Muslims are dumb and would get their shit kicked in if whitey ever got around to it. The guy sounds like he is trying to sound smart but is not.

      NotWesley

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • The average citizen in America of all colors comes across as a “sheeple”, essentially, this is what we call dumb.

        Reddy residents of the sticks who vote Republican might get labeled as stupid hicksters, but urban hipsters are just as stupid and hive minded in a different way.

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Stop trolling JS.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

    • You’re underestimating the eschatological underpinnings of evangelical support for Israel. Many if not most fundies believe, to some degree, we are living in the end times (ironically muslim extremists believe this too but for different reasons) ie the second coming of jesus christ is imminent and all that entails.

      toomanyspiders

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • If anything, I think non-evangelicals tend to overestimate the eschatological underpinnings as the reason for evangelical support of Israel. That’s the viewpoint of Salon.com types who don’t understand evangelical Christianity but love to look down on people who believe in end-times type stuff. In my experience evangelical support for Israel is mainly because of this emphasis on God “keeping his promises,” that God’s Old Testament promises about giving the Israelites a land of their own still are in force today, and a belief that “God’s chosen people” means that Jews are almost semi-divine beings. See this article where Richard Land, president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, says “God gave the land of Israel to the Jews, forever. And that God blesses those who bless the Jews, and God curses those who curse the Jews. And if we want God to bless us and God wants us to bless America, we’ve got to bless the Jews.” (He’s referring to Genesis chapter 12, where God says to Abram “I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”) Or see the text of this speech by Pat Robertson. There’s nothing in there about end-times stuff. It’s all about God keeping his promises and the Jews being God’s chosen people.

        Hermes

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Alt-right Richard Spencer admires Jews for establishing a nationhood, which serves as a role model for his envisioned Whitetopia. Of course, these individuals have such a singular, perverted, approach to their agenda, that they omit the premise for the creation of the State of Israel. The same reason why SJWs protest about racism without elaborating the underlying issues that causes tensions between the in and out groups.

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Yes support for Israel is practically a commandment.

        Mike Street Station

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I dunno, I’ve spent an awful lot of time interacting with fundies and their recognition of jews as the chosen people (as opposed to the ‘killers of christ-‘ see the catholic ‘reproaches’) centers around eschatology. Not necessarily 100%, but it’s there. They also believe to some degree in the bible code stuff.

        toomanyspiders

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • What Richard Spencer miss out on is that Israel has 20% Muslim population, has a big problem of illegal immigration of Africans and has an Ashkenazi liberal elite which holds the same values as liberals in the US including the anti Israel sentiment, feminism and faux socialism. Luckily for Israel this Ashkenazi elite is outbred and intermix with the rest of the population.

        Hashed

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “See this article where Richard Land, president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary, says “God gave the land of Israel to the Jews, forever. And that God blesses those who bless the Jews, and God curses those who curse the Jews. And if we want God to bless us and God wants us to bless America, we’ve got to bless the Jews.””

        When you take the Bible seriously, like Evangelicals do, that is practically a commandment. Most of the rest of Christianity doesn’t take the Bible nearly as seriously, so your antisemtism may vary with other Christian groups.

        Mike Street Station

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • When you take the Bible seriously, like Evangelicals do, that is practically a commandment. Most of the rest of Christianity doesn’t take the Bible nearly as seriously, so your antisemtism may vary with other Christian groups.

        One problem with Land’s logic is that God made that statement to Abram, who became Abraham, not just Israel (Jacob.) And as we know, Middle Eastern Muslims also identify their lineage as being derived from Abraham, through Ishmael.

        Hermes

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I think non-evangelicals tend to overestimate the eschatological underpinnings as the reason for evangelical support of Israel.

        Aside from end-times prophecies, the return of Jews to Israel proves (in Evangelical minds) the Abrahamic Covenant still applies fully to the Jews despite their not recognizing Jesus as the Messiah.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Yeah, I wonder to what extent WWC/evangelical love of Israel is directly in reaction to the fact that Israel is the enemy our enemy, the Muslims, e.g. the Iranian régime links us together as the Great Satan and Little Satan.

      Greg Pandatshang

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • That’s an easy one. Gelicals were pro Israel way before muslims ever made the radar over here.

        vipltd

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • To no extent. Nice try, or just lazy?

        Joe

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

    • No, dumb

      Joe

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  3. Right. Accusations of anti-Semitism against conservatives are about as unfair as can be. What more can American conservatives possibly do to show they care?

    The idea of America as some great redoubt of anti-Semitism is absurd when it is America standing up as Israel’s ally, almost always alone.

    Dan

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  4. I’ve been trying to tell you this all along. Your average Trump supporters, or “alt-right” or whatever you want to call them, love Jews and are pro-Israel.

    It is only a small crazy fringe of the alt-right that is has conspiracy theories about Jews.

    A very large majority of Jew-haters and Israel haters in the West consist of Muslim immigrants and the large number of leftists that the Muslims have brainwashed with Pallywood propoganda (mainly on universities).

    Rosenmops

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Even Richard Spencer says that he respects Israel and wants the US Government to be more like Israel. White Nationalists tend to make a distinction between Israelis and Secular American Jews. It is brought up in Ryan Gosling’s famous diner scene in “The Believer” which is based on the real life story of Daniel Burros, a Bronx Jew who became a fervent Neo Nazi and then killed himself when the NY Times exposed his true ethnicity:

      PerezHBD

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Milton Friedman famously observed/derided that everything about Israelis is the opposite of everything about American Jews. So, to be logically consistent, whatever alt-rights don’t like about American Jews, they ought to love about Israelis.

        Greg Pandatshang

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Even Richard Spencer says that he respects Israel and wants the US Government to be more like Israel.

      Spencer is a complete idiot and so are all of his followers like you.

      Spencer wants his white homeland to be 20% Muslim?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Hey wait a minute, who died & made you Jewish pope? I never got the sense that Rosenmops is a follower of Spencer. Just because you mention someone doesn’t make you a follower or a liker. I mention Sailer a lot because I think he is a touchstone of sorts. And he’s right on a few things. That doesn’t make me a follower, or an admirer.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I was refering to perezhd.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Oh, sorry, I thought it was Rose and mops. I must be losing my mind.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Rosenmops.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I must be losing my mind.

        We’ll know you’ve lost it when you argue the ideal white ethnostate is one that’s 20% Muslim.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • It’s one that’s 20% Jewish.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Sometimes my phone represents who answered whom strangely. That’s why I thought you had responded to Rosenmops and not PerezhD.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • It’s one that’s 20% Jewish.

        Its an ethnostate concept the alt-omegas might as well get used to because they’re not doing anything effective against Jews.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  5. There aren’t a lot people out there that care about Israel. I’ve never heard anybody talk about it.

    ttgy

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  6. ” I’ve read somewhere that evangelical Christians…”

    It hardly just that hoary old Leftist boogyman “Evangelical Christians”.

    All Christian (including Catholics) I have run into are supportive of Israel. Maybe excepting from some Universalists who are barely Christian. And the British, who once again are barely Christian.

    Leftists are constantly projecting things on to Evangelical Christians. There are some frindgey evangelicals who have a apologetic reason for being pro-Israel (and some Zionists who have reasons to be anti-Israel) and lefties like to project that as being the only justification for Christian’s support of the Jews.

    Lion o' the Turambar

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  7. I propose that from here on out that we simply refer to Evangelical Christians as Christians. They are the true believers and are therefore the true Christians. Mainline Protestantism is thoroughly pozzed. Once great institutions like the Episcopal Church and Presbyterian Church USA are now hangouts for gay activists, Marxist professors and baby boomer cat ladies. They are left wing political action committees that are actively subverting the historic American nation through refugee and third world resettlement. Much like the liberal Jews, these liberal Wasps have nothing but shame and self hatred for their own people and their own country. They should no longer be called Christians. Instead they should be referred to as enemy combatants. On the bright side, their membership is imploding due to the fact that most young families don’t want to go to church with trannies and communists. Alas, poz doesn’t fill the pews.

    B.T.D.T.

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • You’re forgetting orthodox and coptic christianity, which so far are immune to the decay you describe within the episcopal and presbyterian churches. Furthermore coptic/ orthodox presently bear the brunt of current anti-christian muslim violence. Countless churches have been destroyed in egypt, coptic women kidnapped, shrines destroyed. Funny you never hear about it in the news. The MSM did briefly get mad when muslims blew up the 1500 year old bamiyan buddhas but I guess that’s different.

      toomanyspiders

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • I think there is still a reason to differentiate between Evangelicals and the rest of the Christian community. They are Bible literalists, or at least pretty close to it, and it makes a big difference in worldview.

      Mike Street Station

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • So what’s going to happen with these pozzed churches?. When r they gunna to die off already?

      gothamette

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Often times when the churches run out of money they sell them to an Evangelical church or to an Islamic sect, which they actually prefer. I give these denominations about 30 more years at best.

        B.T.D.T.

        December 12, 2017 at EDT pm

  8. I suspect a non-negligible percent of those callers were these people, Christians who call themselves Jews. Check out the link, these ‘messianic synagogues’ who proclaim Christ the messiah are growing.

    “Beit Tikvah is part of a world-wide movement of Messianic congregations who worship Yeshua (Jesus) as the Messiah in the context of Jewish lifestyle and identity. Our Congregational Leader is Hylan Slobodkin. Come and visit. You’ll be glad you did.”

    http://www.messianiccovenant.com/united-states/washington

    Curle

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • No, I don’t think so.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • I was once at a huge evangelical church on SI and noticed a guy in the congregation dressed as an orthodox jew. Beard, tallit, kippah, black pants the whole nine yards. So I go up to him and ask is he a convert? Nope, he’s gentile, but wants to be like jesus who was jewish.

      My childhood best friend was from a jewish family that converted to christianity- her parents were 1960s hippies who joined various christian cults before converting to catholicism. It was actually pretty common for jews to become jesus freaks during this era; in fact I would argue the eschatological fundie movement has its nascency with the hippie collision of jews and hippie christians (see keith green).

      But as jews drew away from the countercultural union the christians held on.

      toomanyspiders

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • That’s another aspect of evangelical philo-Semitism: they think modern-day Jews are practicing the religion of the Old Testament, which they view as a sort of proto-Christianity, thus they tend to look at Jews as sort of honorary Christians.

        Hermes

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • According to the church fathers, the worldwide body of Christians as a whole is Israel and can rely on G-d’s promise to protect His chosen people. This pre-AD 33 Israelites have been fired from their role as chosen people. Logically, this would tend to temper Christians’ enthusiasm for a state that calls itself Israel. Some modern Evangelicals have developed the doctrine of dispensationalism in order to get around this conundrum. In this model, more than one of God’s successive covenants can potentially be in effect at the same time.

      Greg Pandatshang

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • I’ve listened to Breitbart radio for years. Lion is correct. None of the callers are Messianic Jews.

      Lewis Medlock

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • This pre-AD 33 Israelites have been fired from their role as chosen people. Logically, this would tend to temper Christians’ enthusiasm for a state that calls itself Israel.

      Wrong.

      Their thinking is the Abrahamic Covenant is still fully applicable to Jews even if they reject Jesus as Messiah because Israel was given back to the Jews, not to the Christians.

      The antisemites are the ones who are misinterpreting the meaning of Abraham’s Covenant in the context of modern Israel, not the Evangelicals.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  9. I think that casting Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman seriously hurt box office in some European countries. But it didn’t hurt in Brazil, where Wonder Woman was the biggest grossing superhero(ine) movie of all time.

    It didn’t do so good in China but that had nothing to do with Gadot being Israeli, they just didn’t like it. Justice League did brilliantly there & tanked everywhere else.

    But I think the leftists & Muzzies in Europe hurt Wonder Woman’s box office.

    I noted that the alt-right, who are to a man obsessed with pop culture & movies, passed on Wonder Woman. I guess they were scared that if they saw it, they’d like it, and that seeing a drop dead gorgeous Israeli would put a monkey wrench in their disgusting philosophy.

    gothamette

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Vox Day’s commenters like her. It’s not so much that she’s “drop dead gorgeous” (she’s pretty, certainly, but I wouldn’t say she’s drop dead gorgeous) as that she’s sweet in an old-fashioned, walk-on-the-beach hand-in-hand way. The fact that she isn’t at all muscular increases her appeal.

      I’m not sure what the alt-right philosophy is, but this sort of view seems common:
      (1) Jews have an innate tendency to subvert all that is Good, True, and Beautiful. So,
      (2) All Jews should be packed off to Israel, where
      (3) The Temple should be rebuilt, Yehudah and Shomron annexed, Am Yisrael’s Moslem enemies utterly destroyed, and an Israeli Empire established, because
      (4) We Good, True, and Beautiful Whites are going to Mars anyway, so who gives a fuck about the Middle East?

      Note that Moshe Feiglin would only disagree with the first point — he’d replace it with
      (1) Jews and non-Jews will never get along, so,

      Garr

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • “The fact that she isn’t at all muscular increases her appeal.”

        Allegedly, Gal Gadot gained 17 pounds of muscle to play Wonder Woman.

        https://www.livestrong.com/article/1013102-wonder-woman-gal-gadot-actually-gained-weight-her-role/

        But I have no interest in watching another superhero movie, even though Gal Gadot does look pretty good.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I don’t want to ask you “if she’s not drop-dead gorgeous who the hell is?” because I know that will start one of those endless, boring discussions that focus on minute characteristics. So dull.

        I think she’s quite stunning. Your comment about her lack of muscularity I find funny, because the geeks and fanboys were bemoaning this before the movie came out. In the runup to the film they showed her doing all sorts of stupid training stuff and publicized that she had “gained 17 pounds of muscle,” which is physically impossible. (Read PubMed, the most a woman can put on would be about 5-6 pounds.)

        I guess you and I read different alt-right sites. In fact I don’t read them anymore because I figured they were bad for the soul, but the ones I read featured cartoons of greasy hooknosed sleazebags.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I wrote the “17 pounds of muscle” before I saw your comment Lion. No, she did NOT gain 17 pounds of muscle. That’s pure Hollywood BS.

        It’s not a typical superhero movie, it’s worth a Netflix. I don’t like superhero movies, while I liked this.

        Re Vox Day, I tried reading his blog & found it boring. One of his commenters wrote: “Gal Gadot seems nice from what little I’ve seen, but the replacement of white goddess with a Jewess goddess is obvious aesthetic genocide, and a shoddy statistical substitute. Whereas the Germanic beauty stands for justice and truth, the Ashkenazi represents feminism and communism. Of course they find the nicest one they can to sell that lie, just as Sarah Silverman uses her body as a weapon against the white Christ.”

        Jesus. I have to go and wash out my brain after reading garbage like that.

        When I was a kid, too young, I read the hard core left wing bilge that was coming out then. I never believed it, always hated it, but felt violated. I feel the same way about alt-right shit. It’s polluting.

        gothamette

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • OK, I will watch it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Warning and spoiler: it’s really more of a rom-com with superhero aspects than a straight super-hero movie.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Gal Gadot is drop dead gorgeous but only because of plastic surgery. Look at her pre surgery and she is nothing special, a 7 at best.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Godot is beautiful. So is Libby Caplin. So is this gal I just learned about, stage name Libby Holman, real name Libby Holzman. Married into the R.J. Reynolds tobacco company family. Was gorgeous and had a messy personal life.

        Curle

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • * Lizzy Caplan & Gadot.

        Curle

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Gothamette, I find her very, very attractive, okay?

        Now I can’t figure out whether you’re Gal Gadot or Iggy Pop.

        You’re right about the implausibility of a woman gaining 17 pounds “of muscle”. It would have been almost entirely in her butt and legs, though. Maybe she had very skinny legs before.

        You know what bugs me about Gal Gadot? It turns out that she’s 32 and is married with 2 kids, but you never hear about her being a wife and mother and never see her husband around. I read that on SNL they showed her calling her parents — shouldn’t she have called her husband?

        On that Vox Day comment — that’s one of the comments I had in mind, although I didn’t remember the silly stuff in it. That kind of thing is just silly; you should read it with a smile. It was probably written with a smile, too. They’re in a private fantasy-land — it’s like Elves and Dwarfs complaining about each other in Lord of the Rings.

        Obviously a woman can’t represent anything other than womanhood! Men are English, Russian, Jewish, Igbo, Watusi, Han, Communist, Alt-Right, Libertarian, whatever … women are just women. That’s what so nice about them.

        Garr

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Well, I guess I started it so…

        @Otis, she has not had surgery. I have seen pictures of her before she came to Hollywood, and the features are the same. The photos of her as Miss Israel are unfortunate because she looked like shit in that competition, with the frizzed hair. Her hair is naturally straight as can be seen in childhood pics. I’ve seen pics of her in her 20s when she was in that stupid show Bubot (google it, and Getty) and the face is the same, except younger & plumper.

        http://www.thelist.com/69068/stunning-transformation-gal-gadot/

        I do not see a nose job. I see a younger, plumper face but nothing else.

        And anyway, you can’t get a body like hers with plastic surgery. She’s legitimately almost 5’10” and gracefully built. Charlize Theron is same height, but her body is thick waisted and awkward. (Speaking of plastic surgery…)

        Jennifer Lawrence is the one who has had massive and extensive plastic surgery, and still she’s not, and never will be, beautiful, merely a mediocre chick with a hot body that she traded for an Oscar.

        https://beautyeditor.ca/2017/10/20/jennifer-lawrence-before-and-after

        Check out what she did to her face in 2011 – a filler nightmare! You can see a chick like that at any mall. What’s the fuss?

        @Curle – Enty just featured a blind about Libby Holman. Do you read him?

        @Garr, I agree with you about everything. I’m not Iggy Pop. U r right that I shouldn’t get upset about the frauds & losers who say ugly things about Jewesses.

        She cannot have gained 17 pounds of muscle, OK? Look it up in PubMed. I’m a stickler about being accurate about these things. Hollywood is one big bullshit factory. Every time an actress trains for a part they say she gained “15 pounds of muscle.” The only people who can put on that amount of muscle legit w/o T are undermuscled teenaged boys who have been very sedentary, who begin a rigorous lifting routine. Otherwise, impossible.

        Ya know, I agree with you about her being married w/kids and how she doesn’t play that up but understand, this is Hollywood. They are very sick, screwed up people, and they are desperate to make money, and in their desperate search for lucre they follow every trend. In so doing they turn a trend into Truth.

        If this were the 1950s, even up to 1965, they would be playing up her being married with kids, but now in the mistaken notion that we are all degenerates, that’s not a selling point.

        Do you remember the late Soviet dancer, Alexander Gudonov? I will tell you why I asked when you answer.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  10. I’ve read somewhere that evangelical Christians support Israel,

    Lion, I grew up with EXACTLY these people in military towns in the Deep South, I’m one of them. You are exactly correct in that these evangelicals trend prolish in their taste, even the true small-town Southerners who get a college degree usually get one at a regional/directional school and then move right back home after graduation. They’re not the striver type.

    And you are right, their type of strident pro-Israel talk is nowhere near as common amongst Catholics or Episcopalians, etc.

    These are the type of people who generally don’t get passports or care much about international travel even though they could afford it, unless it’s a cruise heading out of Mobile or Ft. Lauderdale. They’d prefer to just add a bass boat or wave runner with their disposable cash.

    Also, most large military bases are in the South, and retired military people tend to stay in the region due to low cost of living and the weather it helps the conservative slant (as do other demographic factors).

    A lot of these people have (literally) never met a Jewish person in their life but they preach love for Israel like they love their own family, due to what their military leaders, FOX and American Presidents have always told them. If you asked them what Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen, Jon Stewart and Charles Krauthammer have in common, they literally could not tell you because the obvious would not dawn on them.

    And did I mention that these folks watch Fox 24 hours per day? Stereotypical, yes. But true.

    Camlost

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • ” They’re not the striver type.”

      God bless them.

      gothamette

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  11. Another thing that white proles love that their would-be champions on the far right often hate: sports (“sportsball”).

    IHTG

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • As I once pointed out here, the alt-right is the true “culture of critique.”

      They are not really right wing at all. They are simply radically dissatisfied young people, mostly men, the modern equivalent of the stereotypical bomb-throwing anarchist pre- and post WWI. If there were still cafes they would be hanging around in them, smoking cigarettes, making wild plots, and hand-cranking out manifestos.

      gothamette

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  12. You’re underestimating the eschatological underpinnings of evangelical support for Israel. Many if not most fundies believe, to some degree, we are living in the end times (ironically muslim extremists believe this too but for different reasons) ie the second coming of jesus christ is imminent and all that entails.

    Yes, this true of evangelicals, that type of “end of days” preaching became standard back in the 80’s, well before 9/11.

    If you want to see it in practice just look at the writings of Jerry Fallwell or the President of Bob Jones University.

    Here’s one of the leaders of the 700 Club (Pat Robertson’s TV program) on the Jerusalem capital issue:

    Camlost

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  13. General Christian Support for Israel is practical and obvious. Its called Pilgrimage. Most Christians would like to visit the Holy Land. That is simply not possible if Muslims control it. Look at how Muslims treat Christians in Iraq or Egypt. So self-interest leads to support for Israel. Israel will not forbid Christians from visiting while Muslim will not only do so but blow up all Christian shrines and places.

    Next, it is clear and undeniable that Muslims are the natural and eternal enemy of Christians. Muslims, whenever and wherever they can, seek to eradicate both Christian Believers and the faith itself. Jews do not. Moreover, the more Muslims rage about Jews, the more real Christian believers feel that Jews must be doing something right to generate the hate by Muslims that is also directed towards them.

    Finally, Jews are compatible with Christians in a way that Muslims are not. Jews do not hold massive public animal slaughters, nor bow down five times a day in weird and icky rituals, nor act violent and aggressive when not beheading Priests during Mass, nor do Jews keep their women in giant tents with only their eyes showing. Outside of the religious beliefs and a desire not to eat delicious ham and bacon, there is no behavioral difference between Jews and Christians; while a vast cultural and civilizational gulf exists between Christians and Muslims.

    Alt-Right anti-Semites miss this (mostly to avoid confronting the role that White women* play in propagating the Poz as there is nothing more White Knight than a WN). Because they can’t and won’t confront how class and culture divide White people. Whites who have it made figure that only “loser” Whites suffer under mass Third World immigration and the PC Poz — examples being John Podhoretz and John McCain. The important thing about both is not their faith (as noted above their behavioral traits are pretty much identical save dietary minutae) but CLASS. Both born on third base figure they hit a triple and every other White should as well — those that don’t suffer moral and spiritual deficiency otherwise God or Providence would have made them a massive hereditary success as well.

    * Lindsey Vonn wants you to know that A. She truly DESPISES Donald Trump and you deplorables. B. She really, really likes Colin Kaepernick and would like to get him (and his bank account) much much better. Inside every woman there is a Kim Kardashian fame-whoring to get out.

    whiskeysplace

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • “Finally, Jews are compatible with Christians in a way that Muslims are not. Jews do not hold massive public animal slaughters, nor bow down five times a day in weird and icky rituals, nor act violent and aggressive when not beheading Priests during Mass, nor do Jews keep their women in giant tents with only their eyes showing.”

      Actually, the practice of orthodox Judaism is like Islam than Christianity, both based on ritual and extreme devotion to the religion. And yes, the orthodox women hide themselves by shaving their hair and wearing wigs. Pretty weird.

      But Jews and Christians philosophically are similar, since both are based on Aristotle, and Orthodox Jews generally believe the same stuff as Catholics, while Muslims believe in crazy stuff like jihad an beheading apostates.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • ‘And yes, the orthodox women hide themselves by shaving their hair and wearing wigs. Pretty weird.’

        Shaving the head is an innovation that had originated in 18th century Hungary. It’s only practised by Hungarian and Polish Hassidim. Yes, it’s weird, but don’t make it worse then it is.

        Yakov

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • I’m not sure about the Aristotle stuff. Chassidim is quite irrational and medieval, and probably more incompatible with Western Civilization than Islam, because Muslims are always out and about with society at large (although they get bad rap due to extremism).

        JS

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0759989/

        Black Is the Color of My True Love’s Wig

        “Gloria buys a black wig and when she models it for Mike, he gets really turned on. But what happens when she takes off the wig leads to a huge fight about their sex life.”

        MEH 0910

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • There were Aristotilian Jewish thinkers who tried to reconcile the two, but Judaism is not based on Aristotle.

        Yakov

        December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Hmmm..

        What did Jesus say to the Jews who reject him?

        Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”
        – John 8:42-47

        map

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • I don’t think the argument that the Jews are better stewards of the Holy Land holds much water. Bethlehem is in the West Bank an has been under Palestinian control for over 20 years. The Ottomans controlled the Holy Land for centuries without incident. Iraq was actually a great place for Christians before the US invasion and Russia/Iran’s victory over the US/Israeli/Saudi backed rebels in Syria literally saved the Middle East’s largest Christian community from genocide.

        It isn’t prophesy, or access to Holy Sites that motivates the good will towards Israel, it is just simple sentimentality. Conservatives tend to be sentimental. Southern Conservatives, who grew up reading the Bible and have positive feelings towards that book, have a sentimental belief that it is both right and proper for the Jews to control Israel. Lloyd George was a sentimental guy too. He had lost the strong belief in religion that was imparted to him by his parents, but his childhood sentiments remained and that led him to back both the creation of the Jewish State as well as the Greek Cause in the Greco-Turkish War.

        Sentiment is a very powerful emotion. Why do you think Trump spends so much time talking about what is going on in Europe with respect to migration? The destruction of the European homeland affects him at a visceral level, as it does most white voters in America. Most white voters in Michigan or Alabama are never going to visit Germany, but they very much care whether or not it is still there.

        PerezHBD

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • It isn’t prophesy, or access to Holy Sites that motivates the good will towards Israel, it is just simple sentimentality.

        It has to do with the Abrahamic Covenant.

        By returning Israel to the Jews – and not the Christians – the Evangelicals believe this is a sign the Abrahamic Covenant is still fully applicable to the Jews despite their not accepting Christ as the Messiah. And the Abrahamic Covenant was an unconditional guarantee by God to Abraham, and not based on whether his descendents accepted the Messiah.

        The Evangelicals are entirely correct with their interpretation and it should be adopted by every Christian denomination.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • What did Jesus say to the Jews who reject him?

        The Abrahamic Covenant was an unconditional promise to Abraham. From an Evangelical perspective (and this is irrefutable for every other Christian denomination) God proved the Jews are still the chosen people because the Jews – not Christians – were given the land of Israel back.

        That means all the benefits of the Covenant apply to Jews as much it does to Christians no matter if Jews do not accept Christ as Messiah.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • MaryK, what’s the leaning of the passage that map quoted?

        Yakov

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • “Both born on third base figure they hit a triple and every other White should as well — those that don’t suffer moral and spiritual deficiency otherwise God or Providence would have made them a massive hereditary success as well.”

      Good description. Either you or Leon should write a post about this. I’ve given a bit of thought to how wealth and class affects one’s psychology.

      destructure

      December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Most Christians would like to visit the Holy Land. That is simply not possible if Muslims control it.

      The Muslims controlled the Holy Land for centuries, right up until 1918. During the 19th century it was quite easy and safe for Christians to visit Jerusalem, and it was a lot safer. Arab Christians were also the economically dominant group in Palestine in those days. Smashing the Ottoman Empire was one of the dumbest things Europeans ever did.

      Peter Akuleyev

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Muslims were better behaved in previous centuries.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • Palestine under the Ottomans was a miserably poor, malaria-ridden place.

        BTW there was no Palestine under the Ottomans. What we now call Palestine was divided amongst several administrative units. If you go to Topkapi Palace there’s a map of the old Ottoman Empire which shows this. There was never a Palestine before Israel came on the scene.

        The “Palestinians” that never were are the Arab Christians of the area that became Israel/Palestine, who naturally thought they were going to rule the place when the area was partitioned and the 1948 war broke out. They thought their side would win, and they would be the elite administrators and rulers of Palestine.

        When things didn’t work out that way, their bitterness was very great, and all that emotion went into creating a country that never was. I believe a certain somebody calls this “retconning.”

        gothamette

        December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  14. Pakastani immigrant arrested for trying to blow up a church tower in Germany. The Germans, like the Swedes and many other European countries, have allowed too many Muslims to come in.

    Black Death

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • The Germans are warped because of WW2. They must continually demonstrate to the world that they’ve learned their lesson and no longer discriminate. This includes taking in all kinds of Muslim refugees.

      Lewis Medlock

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  15. These same evangelical Christians who support Israel also oppose abortion.

    MEH 0910

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Yes, and some make a big show of opposing abortion b/c it kills more black babies and is therefore tantamount to racism which is the biggest evil ever. The perfect union of Christian mysticism and Blank Slate mysticism. I think that fellow at The American Conservative, Rod Dreher, makes this kind of argument though I think he might be Catholic. I know his comment section is filled with this stuff.

      Abortion tolerance may be the place where Jewish conservatives are ahead of everyone else, that is assuming that Lion’s thinking on this is correct and that it reflects Jewish Conservative thought. Where is Gottfried on abortion?

      Curle

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  16. Christians love Jews but hate Muslims. Jews love Muslims but hate Christians. Muslims hate both Jews and Christians.

    Jay Fink

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  17. I know a prole Christian. He normally never discusses politics or current events but he is overjoyed about Jerusalem and couldn’t be more pleased with Trump because of this.

    Jay Fink

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

  18. In the long run Israel is going to become a reactionary theocracy as the religious take over. Basically a Jewish version of Iran. Wonder if there will still be sympathy for Israel then.

    I really think the US needs to disengage from the region. It’s ridiculous how every time Israel does something the Arabs don’t like the whole world comes to the US demanding that they make Israel stop. When the US leaves then the US can just respond, “go talk to the Israelis, not us”.

    Lion: what do you think about that proposal in Philly to ban bullet proof glass in stores?

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • The big unknown is: what is the mean IQ of these high fertility Haredim Jews? Is it 110 like the other Ashkenazis? If it is then not much will change, they will be able to recruit large numbers of them into secularism. But if it is a lot lower, like 95, then yes it may turn into a theocracy.

      DataExplorer

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

      • It’s not unknown, and it isn’t 95. Talmud study is pretty much a selective reproduction mechanism for higher IQ.

        Mike

        December 13, 2017 at EDT am

  19. I’ve been seeing lulzy commercials extolling American proles to send money over to Israel to help needy Jews at food shelters. Truly astonishing Israel has a vast orthodox parasite class, yet no food stamps for old Jews that look like they stepped out of a fiddler on the roof production.
    I like the peanutesque , unrequited love circles of the current year: Jews love Muslims who detest them, dislike and distrust White Proles who love them, and yet get along best with White SWPLs who try and weaken Israel and distrust them.

    HesterLoony

    December 10, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Add to that love circle: non-Arab Muslims (ie Pakistanis, Bengalis, Indonesians, Etc.) love Arabs and will never stop crying about Palestinians and raising money for them. But the Arabs look down on them and treat them like slaves when they go to work in rich Arab nations.

      DataExplorer

      December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  20. I can’t be bothered to read the rest of the comments so I apologize if redundant. But let me say that there are prole whites who have decided they are “Jewish” out of this love for Israel. Some may not have even met a Jew, it’s pretty comical.

    I saw some lady on twitter condemning the “white anti-demotion” of the Sweden attacks; who could have predicted they would be Muslims.

    Joe

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  21. Evangelical Christians (or most Americans for that matter) couldn’t find Israel on a map.

    Nowhere Man

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  22. Blacks don’t like Jewish people.

    Nowhere Man

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  23. Here it comes:

    IHTG

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

    • Meh…

      Made-up stories by random women as opposed to the plausible accusations of long-time female democrat apparatchiks against the bad democrat men that the Democrat party attracts due to no accountability.

      map

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  24. Maybe proles whites are simply smart enough to see the double standards of the media in the way they portray Israel/Palestine which is basicaly the same hypocrisy with the way they portray black-white relations in the US. So they can easily identify with the group the Leftist media constantly demonises.

    DataExplorer

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

    • Except it is not a double standard.

      It’s a single standard.

      The media does not see prole whites as people.

      map

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  25. Most white proles don’t hate Jews because Jews don’t threaten them. Do Jews control Wall Street and the media? So what? WASPs controlled Wall Street and the Media for years. Whether a Silverstein or a Rockefeller is running a multinational corporation doesn’t change much in a small town in Alabama or central Pennsylvania. I suspect most Israeli-loving evangelicals wouldn’t vote for a Jewish man for President, because then it gets personal, but they aren’t going to support pogroms. Most of the virulent anti-Semites I’ve met are educated people who see themselves in direct rivalry with Jews for prestigious jobs or places in school, or are proles in places like Boston or New York who had bad experiences with Jewish landlords and bosses. Even in Nazi Germany the working class needed to be pushed into anti-Semitism. The core anti-Semites were either peasants, who were generally fearful of any outsiders, and the impoverished middle class, who blamed Jews for their own economic decline after WWI.

    Peter Akuleyev

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

    • “Most of the virulent anti-Semites I’ve met are educated people who see themselves in direct rivalry with Jews for prestigious jobs or places in school, or are proles in places like Boston or New York who had bad experiences with Jewish landlords and bosses”

      Amen — America’s hotbed of interracial/ethnic hatred stems from competition and proclaimed entitlement of “resources”.

      JS

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • If there was a time when “WASPs controlled media”, then they were essentially feeding news and opinions to their own population. When a minority population controls it, and is suspected of disseminating socially subversive views, then there is an issue with a justifiable foundation in the minds of the majority. Hypothetically speaking. Disagree or not, his is in fact the core of the antisemitic mechanism surrounding media; rather than what you state.

      Mike

      December 13, 2017 at EDT am

  26. Hilarious:

    IHTG

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  27. I’m not religious or prole, but white from a modest background. I support israel because it’s a beacon in a sea of barbarism; i intuitively choose the side of (dutch) jews bc i see them as my fellow citizens — one of us. Antisemites will say that’s naive, but antisemites are simply looking for an easy scapegoat and are motivated by jealousy of jewish accomplishment.

    I’ve read all the kevin macdonald stuff and it didn’t change my beliefs about Jews at all. First, for whatever jews are blamed for, there’s the abomination of world war II, which was way, way worse. Second, for every franz boas there are 10 kubricks, jonas salks, ludwig von miseses & kissingers who make our lives better. Three, we need to learn to look to the future, not the past: jews & white europeans will depend on each other in fighting islam.

    I am very happy Trump recognised Jerusalem.

    Maciano

    December 11, 2017 at EDT am

  28. The worst enemy of Jews, after the Muslims, are Jews themselves.

    Do you honestly deny there’s any connection between Jews having more money & influence per capita than any other U.S. ethnic group, & U.S. foreign being so pro-Israel? You honestly believe the U.S. is pro-Israel in spite of Jewish power, not because of it? I love your blog, but your normally razor sharp common sense & objectivity goes out the window when you talk about your own people.

    pumpkinperson

    December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Yeah, Jews are funny that way. Like the rest of the world. 🤣

      gothamette

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • Obviously US is pro-Israel on account of Jewish power and influence. It’s very simple and I don’t have a problem with it.

      Yakov

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  29. That the Joos have some sort of super-powerful secret mind-control influence over the U.S. gubmint which they use for the sole purpose of helping Israel at the expense of the United States is a pack of anti-Semitic lies spun by anti-Semitic alt-right that gets repeated over and over again.

    The fact is that elite liberal Jews hate Israel, they supported Obama’s anti-Israel foreign policy. It’s prole Jews who contribute to AIPAC, not elite liberal Jews, and AIPAC’s power is vastly overstated by anti-Semites. Not that there’s anything wrong with prole Jews advocating for their fellow Jews in Israel. It’s admirable of them.

    In fact, elite liberal Jews now HATE AIPAC because the delegates gave Trump a standing ovation.

    Lion of the Blogosphere

    December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • “Liberal” Jewish elites like Chuck Schumer advised Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital:

      http://www.carbonated.tv/amp/schumer-says-he-helped-trump-with-jerusalem-policy-change

      pumpkinperson

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Chuck is NOT elite, he comes from a prole part of Brooklyn, graduated from the same public high school as my mother, served prole constituents as a Representative from Brooklyn before rising to being a Senator (and then Weiner took over his district).

        Among Jewish politicians, Bernie Sanders and Diane Feinstein were publicly against it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Chuck Schumer’s net worth makes him a millionaire. Sources say it doesn’t include his Park Slope Brownstone.

        Let’s call him influential, and this has nothing to do with being prole.

        The Chassidic Jews in Brooklyn as a community is also quite influential.

        JS

        December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • To the prole gentile class, Schumer’s poliics are that of a liberal Jew that is antagonistic to their interests on all important issues that they perceive are central to their continued existence. Thus, to them is he functionally indiscernible from any other liberal Jew and they see him supporting AIPAC. Internal Jewish politics aren’t relevant to prole gentiles.

        Mike

        December 13, 2017 at EDT am

  30. I don’t buy it. I think people (evangelicals, conservatives, military types, international thinkers, all people) who support Israel, or support the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, simply support what they perceive as ‘civilization’ (the Western World, of which Israel is a part) against ‘barbarism.’ (the Muslim world, the UN, Leftists and progressives). Its not necessarily thought out, and I doubt if many would agree with my characterization (civilization vs. barbarism). But it is just the vague sense of ‘good guys’ and ‘not good guys.’ If you or I had to move to the Mideast, we would want to move to Israel-because the Western Rule of Law prevails there. So we want, and evangelicals want, Isreal to be supported. If we decided to go to college, we would not go to Berkeley or Oberlin, because those colleges are on the other side. And so on. There’s no direct tie between the Muslim world and Oberlin college, but there is a rough political/values affinity between the two. This division permeates our whole culture-Israel is just a country that happens to be a significant faultline in that cultural division.

    You are reading too much into the evangelical eschatological blather. Just think of it as good guys vs bad guys, with the ‘good’ being roughly equal to American political viewpoints which they agree with (which are roughly conservative or Republican) and ‘bad being roughly equal to the Third World and political viewpoints which they disagree with (liberalism, progressivism, and Democrat).

    Its really not more complicated than that.

    anon

    anon

    December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  31. Anyway, Happy Hanukkah!

    Nowhere Man

    December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

  32. Todays Google Doodle honors Jewish physicist Max Born who had the sublime insight that quantum randomness isn’t due to a lack of information about an underlying deterministic causality. Rather, the bedrock of our reality is uncaused randomness (the randomness itself does unfold deterministically).

    Also he was the grandfather of Olivia Newton-John.

    https://www.google.com/doodles/max-borns-135th-birthday

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Born

    MEH 0910

    December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

    • No, he was a white guy.

      When a Jew does something good he’s white. When he does something bad he’s a Jew and he is representative of all Jews.

      gothamette

      December 11, 2017 at EDT pm

      • Sublime Jewish intelligence.

        MEH 0910

        December 12, 2017 at EDT am

    • Sublime in what sense? Quantum theories are eminently inapplicable and are thus masturbation. They are mostly mental toys and they are close to noise in terms of human benefit. Such theories likely cause more wasted time, wasted intellectual horsepower, and distraction than anything else.

      Mike

      December 13, 2017 at EDT am

      • Is it the esoteric nature of quantum theories that makes the contemplation of such the equivalent of mental masturbation? What about the contemplation of sublime practical design? What is the practical use of the appreciation of admittedly practical design? Is that not also mental masturbation?

        MEH 0910

        December 13, 2017 at EDT pm


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