Lion of the Blogosphere

Scott Adams has never been so wrong

http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/12/11/black-lives-matter-blm-republicans-natural-allies/

Scott Adams thinks that blacks would vote Republican if only…

That is never going to happen. Blacks know which party sucks up to them. Republicans could never suck up to blacks the way Dems do. Blacks like being sucked up to. They don’t need to understand or care about any of the other stuff in Adams’ post.

Given this level of cluelessness, it’s time to rethink whether Adams was right about Trump being a 4D chessmaster.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 12, 2017 at EST am

Posted in Politics

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  1. I stopped reading Scott Adams a long time ago, he’s a poseur. Trump may be the best option available, but he’s no 4D Games Master (“moves and counter moves”).

    The lioncub

    December 12, 2017 at EST am

  2. When Trump started running, I actually thought that he might have an opportunity to make inroads into Black votes because he was a known quantity who was popular with Black people as an entertainer. However the media successfully labeled him Republican-Racist early on so that opportunity is long past.

    But otherwise, I agree with Lion that Scott Adams is wrong. Democrat constituencies are based on getting stuff. If you could boil down a Democratic ideology in one word, it wouldn’t be “socialism,” it would be “more.” As in, more stuff. There is no way that a Republican can outbid a Democrat on “more.”

    Say for Trump’s re-election for 2020, he came out and said that he supported reparations for African Americans of slave ancestry: $50,000 applied to either college education or down payment on a house. Well, Elizabeth Warren would say of course she supported reparations too, but that racist Trump only thought the pain of slavery was worth 50k? More like half a million!

    There is no way to win against a Democrat when the voting relationship is based on stuff.

    Mike Street Station

    December 12, 2017 at EST am

    • There’s nothing wrong with Republican-Racist, ie. unashamedly white. Better that it went down this way.

      Andrew E.

      December 12, 2017 at EST am

    • But it really isn’t about socialism at all, it’s about identity.

      Most blacks don’t hate white people. But they also know that they aren’t white, so they vote for the only non white party, the Democrats. Same with Asians and Latinos.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

      • Most blacks don’t hate white people.

        I disagree.

        Nowhere Man

        December 12, 2017 at EST pm

      • Very few blacks born post-1960 out and out hate whites. They’re more like, intensely jealous/have an inferiority complex.

        GondwanaMan

        December 13, 2017 at EST am

  3. Republicans can NEVER overtake the Democrats on the Left by promising people more gimmedats.

    But that won’t stop the Republicans from trying, because they are the Stupid Party.

    Tarl

    December 12, 2017 at EST am

  4. Scott Adams is smart and right-leaning, and he predicted Trump’s win long before anyone else. But he’s not HBD-woke, which means that a lot of his observations and predictions will be off-base as a result. You see that a lot; thinkers who are “almost there,” but whose ignorance of HBD makes them a bit clueless.

    Haggard

    December 12, 2017 at EST am

    • But he’s not HBD-woke,

      Actually, he avoids discussing HBD.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

    • HBD is dead and buried anyway, the antisemites and paleoconservatives destroyed it.

      Because HBD is finished Adams’ commentary won’t miss much quality if he doesn’t kowtow to its ghost.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

      • If HBD is dead, then it wasn’t true. The truth cannot die, and in the end human history will be forced to bend to accommodate it.

        Mike

        December 13, 2017 at EST am

      • … the antisemites and paleoconservatives

        It’s non stop with you. Same neurotic/OCD mentality as JS with his constant “prole America/Anglo-sphere” non sense.

        Scott Adams is just creepy and weird. He also believes in this hypnosis cult mentality.

        So of course he isn’t pro-HBD he thinks we are all blank slates waiting to be hypnotized by a “master persuader”.

        Imagine thinking Trump is a master persuader with his god-awful disapproval numbers.

        Rifleman

        December 13, 2017 at EST am

    • As for whether Adams believes in heredity, I’m pretty sure he does. Although he doesn’t discuss genetics in his analyses, he also is careful to say little to nothing that contradicts the concept. So his predictions end up not being affected by this evasion because he doesn’t base his forecasts on the truth or falsity of heredity.

      A Liberal, by contrast, will make errors in their predictions because their underlying assumptions reject genetics.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

    • Yes. Adams is still in libertarian la la land, but give it time.

      B.T.D.T.

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  5. I think Scott suffers from Aspergers. In any case he seems to have no understanding of status, signalling or that people lie about their actual aims. BLM is all about a group of social activists trying to enhance their social status, they don’t actually want to “win”. On the other side, many of the most vocal opponents of BLM are also trying enhance their social status among conservatives by acting particularly outraged. Trump is a master of using conflict to keep his base loyal. Look how he got everyone all roiled up about an NFL conflict that had basically already been resolved before he stepped in. The last thing Trump wants is to “cut a deal”. He has actually been surprisingly resistant to compromise, in direct contradiction to what Adams was saying before the election. Didn’t Adams predict Trump would usher in a business-like efficient new style of government and would have congress eating out his hand by August? Well, that hasn’t panned out, Trump’s style is to foster chaos and then use that to his advantage. Trump has actually been more of a Bannonist than I thought.

    Peter Akuleyev

    December 12, 2017 at EST am

    • “BLM is all about a group of social activists trying to enhance their social status, they don’t actually want to “win”.”

      It’s a violent revolutionary movement.

      gothamette

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

    • Scott is just a weird, ambitious nerd. He does not have Asperger’s. Do you have any experience with Asperger’s or weird nerds?

      Scott worked a normal corporate career for a while that involved extensive human interaction, including starting out as a bank teller. He writes a comic strip that is broadly popular to a mass audience. Both of these are far beyond the capabilities of someone with Asperger’s.

      People with Asperger’s tend to either be completely nonfunctional in terms of work or (if high-functioning) generally able to succeed only at tasks that require minimal human interaction. A 30-second conversation is usually enough to reveal to ordinary people — even nerds with poor social skills — that they have something seriously wrong with them.

      Scott has insight into some aspects of psychology, but he has a big blind spot in others. I don’t know that it’s really bigger than the average person’s.

      Wency

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

      • You are confusing Asperger’s with more severe autism. Plenty of high functioning adults have Asperger’s. You can make a case that Asperger’s just means further over on the “male” spectrum – people who think in more in terms of quantifiable facts and logic and less in terms of emotion and relative status. Most economists tend to be Aspergery for that reason. Trump is on the opposite side of the scale, he seems to be very emotional and instinctual, intensely aware of hierarchies and sensitive to signalling. I don’t think Adams understands that, so he projects a “4d chessmaster” template onto a man who really just has better political instincts and a stronger will to power than the competition.

        Peter Akuleyev

        December 13, 2017 at EST am

      • You are confusing Asperger’s with more severe autism. Plenty of high functioning adults have Asperger’s.

        True. We aren’t talking about a completely socially isolated nerd with severe autism.

        Rifleman

        December 13, 2017 at EST am

    • “I think Scott suffers from Aspergers”.

      I work with the Aspergers population. Scott does not have Aspergers.

      “He has Aspergers” seems increasingly to be the dissident Right mechanism to resolve challenging political dogma or speech to what makes sense to the masses of the movement. Here’s a tip: if that is encouraged to occur, you’ll lose. Most people are not smart, which includes most people on the Right. This is not an elitist statement, but a factual one that is rooted in the demography of all groups. The Bell Cure applies to everyone. The outlying speech and dogma, coming from the smarter contingent, is the only hope to win. Smarter tribes memorialize such dogma in unquestionable holy books.

      Mike

      December 13, 2017 at EST am

  6. Scott Adams has never been so wrong

    He knows that.

    He’s just trolling your blog.

    And you fell for it.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  7. All I have to do is read the headline and I say to myself, ‘this is a waste of time.’

    gothamette

    December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  8. Lion, I think you’re right. It’s not about the value of ideas, it has to do more with the suck-up factor, and Republicans will never outdo Democrats on that one. But let’s look at some of the proposals:

    1. Create safer neighborhoods to attract jobs and create optimism.
    Great! Who doesn’t want safer neighborhoods? But then again, who makes black neighborhoods unsafe? The Ku Kulx Klan? I don’t think so. We know who commits most of the crimes there.

    2. Fix school bureaucracies in communities where students are failing.
    Sounds like more school choice and charters. Good idea.

    The stuff from BLM -NY is a mixed bag. Who doesn’t think that cops who file false reports should be punished? But all this focusing on “police brutality” against blacks is misleading. From Heather MacDonald, via Instapundit:

    The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 today, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend. Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide-victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 “black bodies,” in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation’s population. The increase in black homicide deaths last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.
    Who is killing these black victims? Not whites, and not the police, but other blacks. In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The Post categorized only 16 black male victims of police shootings as “unarmed.” That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest. Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer. Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers—committed vastly and disproportionately by black males. Among all homicide suspects whose race was known, white killers of blacks numbered only 243. . . .
    Four studies came out in 2016 alone rebutting the charge that police shootings are racially biased. If there is a bias in police shootings, it works in favor of blacks and against whites. That truth has not stopped the ongoing demonization of the police—including, now, by many of the country’s ignorant professional athletes. The toll will be felt, as always, in the inner city, by the thousands of law-abiding people there who desperately want more police protection.

    ….

    So eliminating ALL of the deaths of blacks caused by police (ignoring that most of these victims were armed and dangerous) would have only a trivial effect (about 3%) .

    Scott Adams proposals are mostly feel-good fluff and have little practical value.

    Black Death

    December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  9. The time for negotiating with blacks is over.

    Nowhere Man

    December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  10. […] addresses these issues individually in his post, but LOTB finds it ridiculous since as he writes, “That is never going to happen. Blacks know which party […]

  11. “The prickly part is that most would (presumably) vote Democrat. But Republicans can compete for those votes, “

    Yeah, that was the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever read. Well, at least since Dick Morris said amnesty for illegals would win Republicans the Hispanic vote for a generation.

    Trump definitely is not playing 4D chess. He’s good a good salesman, especially to proles and his blunt and fearless personality was the right-mix for an electorate fed up with the thought police.

    That said, Trump has astonished me by keeping many more promises than I expected. In July of 2016 I would have said that he was the least conservative of all of the Republicans but because he follows through, he’s been more conservative in action than any president since Reagan.

    I’ve slowly come around to thinking that not being beholden to special interests separates him from the rest of the Republicans.

    Mercy Vetsel

    December 12, 2017 at EST pm

    • *should read “The prickly part is that most [convicted felons] would (presumably) vote Democrat.”

      Mercy Vetsel

      December 12, 2017 at EST pm

  12. You shouldn’t read that article as Adams believing what he writes. Adams is smart enough to get the political discourse and how to exploit it. That’s why his writing has become interesting to the dissident Right.

    One of the common strategies of mainstream political discourse, which is most often utilized by the Left but increasingly by the further Right in retaliation, is to make arguments that sound principled; and that thus often force a response by the other side, but which have an underlying untruth. It is a means of introducing noise into the system in order to stymie any channel that would otherwise allow your opponent an avenue for a clear and convincing argument.

    The Left does this all of the time for race incidents (Martin and Brown) and for more general issues. It causes the Right to have to rebut from a defensive position instead of arguing their point (a mechanism that becomes meaningful when the fallacious arguments are high volume) and it also sometimes causes the other side to have to flirt with politically incorrect statements in order to reveal the underlying lie. If we could all be more direct in regard to the truth (disregarding PC), than untruths would not be allowed to stand with any strength.

    First a truth about modern Republicans: ‘Republicanism” refers to a form of liberalism that replaced monarchy. The truth about the newest form of modern Republicans (though this has been longer true for the more stalwart variety in the religious centers) is that they are essentially monarchists in their value system, knowingly or not. Traditional monarchy arose from the agricultural nobility. Their eternal opponent has been the democratic / anti-monarchist international urban merchant class. In modern political discourse, there can be identified a lot of commonly used antisemitic terms in that statement, but that’s not how I mean it. See the Hanseatic League. See the Guelfs (Welfs) vs Ghibilenes. See Emperor vs Pope. See the 30 years War. See the likely operational nature of the Anglo Saxon tribe. Yes, some Jews too. But I’m speaking much more generally, and the topic is important because it describes the essential underlying and eternal political struggle. Rural political power vs urban political power.

    This carries weight when we look at black population behavior. They are not a class of people that is agriculturally productive. It is not in their nature. Their nature, and their interests, align with urban political power. Thus, this is how they will always vote in large numbers. This is also true for other tribes. The tribes that gravitate toward agricultural pursuits will tend to vote for the interests of rural political power at the expense of that of the city. It could be that gravitating toward agricultural life is a large group evolutionary strategy for racial self-preservation. Cities and their lifeblood of ideally international mercantilism, by their nature, will evolve to invite and be comprised of an international population. Only purposefully endogamous tribes can perservere as a tribe in an urban environment. Everyone else mixes. Thus, people without an explicitly endogamous culture can compensate by separating themselves from the paths of transport and centers of international commerce.

    Thus, we can see the outlines form of the two cultural loci of political opposition and power. Agricultural production vs trade. Rural vs urban. Noble vs Burgher. Emperor vs Priest. Monarchy vs Democracy.

    The successful urban elite, or bourgeoisie, will always have a mechanism that allows them to separate from he urban untermensch. That separation mechanism will boil down to race, but the burgher elite also seems to be restricted multi-racial. That is, they mixed at some point to internationalize themselves but mixing is not regular. See the Anglo-Saxons and the Britons.

    This conflict seems to be rooted in two crucial economic functions, and so it seems that it will be unsolvable. It is even mentioned in the story of the first murder. Cain, the builder of the first city, has his settler sacrifice rebuffed and later kills Abel, the rural herder whose sacrifice was pleasing. This story tells the tale of the essential underlying nature of eternal political struggle between what are essentially the interests of racial separation vs the interests inherent in economic prosperity that is rooted in international trade.

    So, that’s an example of a deeper truth (though I would never claim it to be a complete truth) whose purposeful occlusion allows the strategy of introdicing political nonsense arguments to exist. Admittedly, I went into far too much detail to make a concise and thus effective point for the general reader, but maybe it will spark some further thought that will allow readers to resolve what I’m saying and then perhaps to dig into some other material.

    Mike

    December 13, 2017 at EST am


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