Lion of the Blogosphere

Are UFOs from Atlantis?

No, I don’t mean that the UFOs are from the prole resort hotel complex in the Bahamas.

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If (and please note the word “if” here) the unidentified flying objects are advanced technological aircraft beyond the capabilities of known human technology, everyone then assumes they must be extraterrestrial in origin.

But I don’t think that’s the most likely explanation. We only know for sure of one planet in the galaxy that has given rise to intelligent life, and that’s our own planet. Furthermore, if the UFOs were built by a terrestrial civilization, it solves the problem of how they traveled here from a distant star system; they didn’t have to do that.

There have long been myths of a lost or hidden advanced civilization, maybe those myths are actually based on fact?

How could this hidden civilization have become so much more advanced than the rest of mankind? The answer here is very simple: eugenics! Let’s suppose the Atlanteans castrated all males in their society except for the top 5% in IQ, and then those 5% got to have sex with all of the available women. Over the course of merely a few centuries, the Atlanteans would achieve an average IQ way beyond the rest of mankind. With every Atlantean an Einstein, they would be able to achieve scientific and technological progress beyond our own with a much smaller population and without having to exploit the entire planet.

The other mysteries of why and how they remain hidden aren’t explained any better by the more common extraterrestrial assumption. Why are the UFOs only rarely seen and for very brief periods of time? Where and how are the UFOs hiding and why are the hiding from us? Whether they are extraterrestrial, or terrestrial Atlanteans, why not reveal themselves?

We can only assume that the Atlanteans have the technology to hide themselves and a philosophical reason for doing so. Perhaps something like the “Prime Directive”? Perhaps their eugenics program made them so much more advanced and different from the rest of humanity, they believed that there should be no contact or fraternizing with them. But because they had higher ethics than non-Atlantean humans, they didn’t take advantage of their intellectual and technological superiority to enslave the lesser humans (as whites did to black Africans). Instead they adopted a strict policy of non-contact.

Also remember that any civilization more advanced than ours would have reached the singularity, and the UFOs probably have no biological lifeforms aboard, which would explain why they are said to accelerate with g-forces beyond what any human could handle. It’s possible that the Atlanteans are all dead and only their intelligent machines live on.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM

Posted in Nerdy stuff, Robots

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  1. “Let’s suppose the Atlanteans castrated all males in their society except for the top 5% in IQ, and then those 5% got to have sex with all of the available women.”

    We already do that. Except the castration is not physical, and instead of the top 5% of men in IQ it’s the 5% most Alpha.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    December 25, 2017 at 12:32 PM

    • If that were the case wouldn’t 95% of men die childless?

      The men with inordinate genetic impact are probably sperm donors. Some donors end up fathering more than a hundred children. There was a homeless guy in CA who regularly donated sperm and he ‘has’ a huge number of kids today. Not even the polygamists match that!

      toomanyspiders

      December 25, 2017 at 5:26 PM

  2. Yup, I learned all of this (except for the eugenics part explaining Atlantean superiority) reading books from the New Age / Occult section of a Barnes & Nobles in Mesa AZ in the late ’90s. Those are robotic vehicles based in the hollow center of the Earth. They fly out through holes in the poles (pole-holes I guess). The Nazis were trying to make contact with the Atlanteans via tunnels in Bohemia.

    Garr

    December 25, 2017 at 12:59 PM

    • The center of the earth is molten metal and rock.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 25, 2017 at 2:25 PM

      • Well, no one’s ever seen it. Do you understand the math that requires this to be true? I don’t. We just take it on faith. Could be an Atlantean conspiracy.

        Wency

        December 26, 2017 at 8:08 AM

  3. the physics of intergalactic space travel just don’t work. Nor is it likely that life exists anywhere else in the universe outside of earth. If the UFO phenomena are not just delusions/lies/mis-identifications then they just be beings from another dimension of plane of existence, as opposed to beings from another planet.

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 25, 2017 at 1:23 PM

    • Even the physics of interstellar travel doesn’t seem to work out, at least not in our favor. However, it is almost certain that life exists elsewhere, even intelligent life. They just can’t visit us, nor we them.

      Lowe

      December 25, 2017 at 3:31 PM

      • I don’t know why people feel so confident that there is life anywhere else but here. We can’t even make life in the lab, so we don’t have a mechanism to have a lifeless world (even with water, in the Goldilocks zone, and with a magnetosphere) have life. It seems far likelier that the universe is devoid of any life except for us.

        Mike Street Station

        December 26, 2017 at 7:12 AM

      • Simple math. Because we exist, we know that the possibility of technological life developing is > 0. And, the universe is huge. Hell, the Galaxy is huge. So unless the odds of technological life evolving is mind-numbingly small, it must exist elsewhere in the universe.

        JayMan

        December 26, 2017 at 10:08 AM

      • no. There is no life anywhere else in the universe. The physics are clear.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 26, 2017 at 12:53 PM

      • “So unless the odds of technological life evolving is mind-numbingly small, it must exist elsewhere in the universe. ”

        Well that’s what I would think: the odds of technological life evolving is mind-numbingly small. In fact, I’ll take it further and suggest that the odds of any life, even the most simple, is mind numbingly small. Why? If the processes that led from non life to life were fairly straightforward (assuming of course the proper conditions, which I suspect ARE abundant in the universe), we would have figured it out decades ago. Whatever the process that leads to life, it’s clearly not simple enough to wait for the right conditions or we could have already done it in the lab.

        Life may be a total one off based on a zillion to one circumstances.

        Mike Street Station

        December 26, 2017 at 1:07 PM

    • If we’re living “in a simulation” (i.e. are basically conscious Mine Craft villagers) then the UFOs and aliens would be intrusions by people from the Programming Community one reality-level up — maybe spectators, maybe kids in their World Programming Academy learning how our virtual (for them, although real for us) world works.

      Garr

      December 25, 2017 at 4:07 PM

  4. Lion, I recommend the book “Passport to Magonia” by Jacques Vallee. Vallee is an interesting figure in his own right and worth reading about. UFOs have been occurring for all of known history and they always seem to take the shape something in comtemprary culture. Airships were spotted in the late 19th century, chariots in the sky are in some ancient texts, after WWII modern UFOs appeared. There are many reports that UFOs can travel underwater and the ocean is still largely unexplored. The idea of a hidden civilization is not unique either and in 2017 America was introduced to Peter Dale Scott’s term the “Deep State”. The mainstream put out a bastardized version of the term though.

    NotWesley

    December 25, 2017 at 1:24 PM

    • This is one of my favorite paintings showing a ‘ufo,’ from 15th century:

      toomanyspiders

      December 25, 2017 at 3:18 PM

      • Wow, that’s what happened to PKDick! (VALIS)

        Garr

        December 25, 2017 at 5:11 PM

      • Sorry that was supposed to have a link to the annunciation with st emidius, 15th century. UFO in background!

        toomanyspiders

        December 25, 2017 at 6:07 PM

  5. Hollywood Sci Fi trash feature aliens who appear more primitive than humans where they get the privilege to invade and pollute the Earth.

    This mode of thought is typical of our liberals who don’t believe in HBD.

    JS

    December 25, 2017 at 1:24 PM

    • In some cases it may be an allegory.

      Lowe

      December 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM

    • When they’re more advanced they always resemble David Bowie.

      Garr

      December 25, 2017 at 5:12 PM

      • The original V was cool. Ugly reptilian aliens from outer space hiding under a layer of pretty human skin, where they seem agreeable to earthlings, and they also wore sunglasses, because the California sun was too toxic for their crocodile eyes. Hollywood’s creativity at its finest. And the invasion takes place in liberal Los Angeles, where a fleet of diabolical space nazis are under the command of a Jewish actress from NYC. How cool is this? You can’t get better than this.

        JS

        December 25, 2017 at 5:53 PM

  6. Hinduism has a belief tradition in an underground network of civilizations featuring among other entities, the naga, who supposedly are more sophisticated spiritually and technologically than humans. Also supposedly they are interdimensional with a corresponding location to all earth places. So in theory there is a naga version of the white house and kremlin that coexist. We cannot see into their dimension but they can see into ours. That means there’s a naga watching you in your interdimensional naga house right now!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patala

    toomanyspiders

    December 25, 2017 at 3:08 PM

    • Trippy. The Puranas look like the SouthAsian equivalent of the Marvel Universe — maybe that’s where we’re headed, culturally — kind of a Spenglerian cultural-organism-life-cycle thing.

      Garr

      December 25, 2017 at 5:18 PM

      • Hinduism is a mind bogglingly complex religion. I’ve spent 24 YEARS trying to understand it, but have only understood it slightly in the past 2-3 years.

        Whereas it took me 2 months to understand judaism, that included teaching myself to read hebrew.

        toomanyspiders

        December 25, 2017 at 8:44 PM

      • Maybe “Hinduism” is more equivalent to, say, “Hellenism” (designating an entire culture/civilization throughout its history) than to “Judaism”. The closest Jewish equivalent to the Puranas would be the weirder stories in Gemara, and then maybe you’d have to add Isaac Bashevis Singer, Cynthia Ozick … and the Marvel Universe.

        Garr

        December 26, 2017 at 5:29 AM

  7. “…the prole resort hotel complex in the Bahamas.”

    Where is the cutoff between prole and lower-middle? A huge number of Americans don’t have passports and never seriously consider traveling internationally. Making the little puddle-jump to the Bahamas is an out-of-reach fantasy to them. (They don’t know where the Bahamas are.)

    The same goes for cruises and Hawaii vacations. Those really are out-of-reach for millions of Americans who live month-to-month because of low incomes or poor financial choices (or both). How high in the social hierarchy do you have to go before you start looking down on that sort of thing? Somewhere well above proledom, I would think.

    SQ

    December 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM

    • I think George Lucas had in mind that most Americans were just proles who never went anywhere, which inspired him to create all kinds of exotic destinations in Star Wars. Dream on as one would say.

      Tatooine was Tunisia and Hoth was Norway.

      JS

      December 25, 2017 at 10:01 PM

  8. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to bring up the Star Wars debacle.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/25/the-last-jedis-gargantuan-151m-2nd-weekend-plunge-is-an-epic-and-hollywood-choke/

    I’m not really a Star Wars fan, and thus I had no intentions of seeing this movie, but I am aware of the fact that the franchise got all PC’d up. I truly believe that this is the reason for the movie’s failure.

    gothamette

    December 25, 2017 at 4:20 PM

    • Now I know it’s true. The Guardian’s feminist film critic (redundant?) loved it because it was feminist.

      gothamette

      December 25, 2017 at 4:34 PM

    • Movies in general are having a harder time up against original content on streaming. Ironic it was thought video would kill movies, but streaming ended up taking a much larger bite. Old school guys like Weinstein didn’t see this and it may in part be what brought the house of cards tumbling.

      toomanyspiders

      December 25, 2017 at 6:10 PM

      • The movies-in-theaters business has been in more-or-less continuous decline for 70 years, since the introduction of television. (e.g. The Last Picture Show)

        snorlaxwp

        December 25, 2017 at 7:12 PM

      • Hollywood has been making lots of big budget movies that have to sell tons of tickets to make a profit.

        To achieve this, Hollywood needs overseas ticket sales. As such, they dumb down the plots and crank up the CGI, both of which are things SWPLs absolutely loathe. In a feedback loop, Hollywood studios dumb down the plots even more and fine tune the CGI.

        Serious American TV series usually don’t have the budgets for CGI, so they make up for it with good writing and traditional film making techniques. SWPLs eat this up and they’re the ones with the upper middle class disposable incomes.

        Low IQ NAMs and white proles can only afford to go to the theater a few times a year. Disney realizes this and has set up their franchise releases a relatively predictable seasonal fashion.

        What’s interesting is that SJWs, who tend to be far-left proles (SWPLs are left-wing upper middle class), so they’re obsessed with all the garbage comic book and Stah Woz movies flooding the theaters. They now dominate movie reviews, which is why The Last Jedi got great critical reception but a dismal popular reception. They also have weird fanboy allegiances to certain franchises, so Marvel can make trash three times a year and still reap the hype.

        Sid

        December 25, 2017 at 7:52 PM

      • Maybe so, but the crash in box office is pretty shocking. 2nd week BO usually declines, but this was timed for Christmas. Shouldn’t have happened. Real person reviews have been brutal. I saw something on Youtube that was devastating.

        gothamette

        December 25, 2017 at 8:16 PM

    • I haven’t watched any of the new Star Wars movies, but from what my friends have told me, Disney has two countervailing aims:

      1. Treat the IP as a corporate commodity, and milk people’s nostalgia for every last buck.

      2. Apply the Great Replacement to the franchise, killing off all of the white men and making the cast “diverse.” But in this case, it’s white women who are the biggest beneficiaries.

      Of course, it was white male nerds who made the franchise as big and important as it has become. White women, as usual, don’t really like nerdy things the way white men men do, nor do NAMs.

      I know plenty of Japanese men who love Star Wars, but Japanese people find white Western culture to be much more interesting than the new “diverse” culture is. Similarly, white nerds often appreciate Japanese culture and enjoy seeing what they produce.

      I’m glad white nerds are waking up and demanding they be given respect after all of what they’ve done for America.

      Sid

      December 25, 2017 at 7:32 PM

      • With the new diversity theme, aliens must also portray themselves as NAMs, when they take on a human appearance.

        In V, the space reptiles were mostly White people in their human disguise.

        JS

        December 25, 2017 at 7:51 PM

      • ” But in this case, it’s white women who are the biggest beneficiaries.”

        At first, yes. Later on it’s blacks, gays, etc.

        Today a movie opened which is based on a real life story, in which Jessica Chastain & Kevin Costner played Jews. (Yes, very realistic.) The real life Jewish lawyer was played by Idris Elba. It’s a 2-fer; white-washing and blackwashing when convenient.

        Speaking of Japanese culture, there has been a fruitful cross-fertilization between Hollywood & Tokyowood since at least 1960, when the Magnificent 7 was based on the 7 Samurai.

        gothamette

        December 25, 2017 at 8:19 PM

      • “With the new diversity theme, aliens must also portray themselves as NAMs, when they take on a human appearance.”

        In the former EU, there was the Diversity Alliance, which more or less was what happens when you put SJWs in Space!

        http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Diversity_Alliance

        “In V, the space reptiles were mostly White people in their human disguise.”

        Serious question: What’s V? I haven’t heard of it.

        “At first, yes. Later on it’s blacks, gays, etc.”

        Apparently a pink haired feminist gives a Latin dude a hard time!

        “Speaking of Japanese culture, there has been a fruitful cross-fertilization between Hollywood & Tokyowood since at least 1960, when the Magnificent 7 was based on the 7 Samurai.”

        Japanese pop culture often interacts with themes and imagery from Hollywood in an interesting way. Similarly, Hollywood often takes things from Japanese traditional and pop culture.

        Sid

        December 25, 2017 at 9:50 PM

      • V is a sci-fi TV series from the early 1980s about a takeover by aliens. After a while it become stupid, and I think it only lasted a season.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 25, 2017 at 10:30 PM

      • The Hollywood PC script is that whenever an alien takes on a human disguise of a NAM, it must be a good character.

        Only sinister aliens appear White.

        JS

        December 26, 2017 at 10:58 AM

    • For Star Wars geeks:

      Ever wonder how those large bulky imperial walkers are deployed in Hoth and other planets?

      Here’s your answer.

      https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/55/Titan_schematics.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100313175830

      JS

      December 25, 2017 at 8:18 PM

    • The trailer starts with the girl-hero dropping into the frame from the top left onto her hands and knees, panting and sweating — as those she’s just been thrown down to be taken from behind, not necessarily against her will but in a way suggesting that her will has nothing to do with what’s happening and about to happen to her.

      Garr

      December 26, 2017 at 5:32 AM

    • PC has nothing to do with the failures of The Last Jedi.

      The fact that it pisses on Star Wars fans does.

      Not everything is about alt-right nonsense.

      JayMan

      December 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM

      • “alt right nonsense.”

        Truer words were never written, but I think that the aspects of the movie that made it a clunker might be the identity issues. I didn’t see the movie so I can’t say.

        But I don’t think you have to be a religious Christian to enjoy IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE. You do have to respect it, though.

        gothamette

        December 27, 2017 at 4:14 PM

  9. And where on earth is Atlantis?

    Daniel

    December 25, 2017 at 4:38 PM

    • There was a volcanic explosion on the island of Thera which decimated Minoan civilization. I believe this is the basis of the Atlantis legend. Really, it just fits too neatly into Plato’s account of Atlantis for me to believe there was an advanced prehistoric human civilization.

      I find the idea of an advanced “Precursor” civilization to be much more interesting than aliens from outer space, but I find Bronze Age civilization as we know of it far more fascinating than that.

      Sid

      December 25, 2017 at 7:19 PM

      • There’s no evidence of any legends about Atlantis or the Thera eruption existing before Plato, which his own text admits: the frame story claims that a Greek senator was told about Atlantis by Egyptian priests, based on their own historical records. The Greeks had no cultural memory of it. But a lot of Egyptian literature has been recovered by archaeologists and there’s no record of that either.

        What’s far more likely is that Plato just made it up, cobbling together disparate ideas from more recent events. L. Sprague de Camp wrote a great book called “Lost Continents” that makes this case. Plato was an imaginative writer of parables and philosophical constructs, not any sort of oral historian.

        Richard

        December 26, 2017 at 11:08 AM

      • That’s cool that even in Plato’s type, ancient Egyptians were used as a plot device! The Stargate series was based on the same idea.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 26, 2017 at 11:15 AM

    • One Casino Drive Suite #59, Paradise Island, Bahamas

      J1

      December 25, 2017 at 7:20 PM

  10. “Let’s suppose the Atlanteans castrated all males in their society except for the top 5% in IQ, and then those 5% got to have sex with all of the available women.”

    LOL. That’s a nice riff on Steve Sailer’s first law of female journalism, but instead it’s the first law of sci-fi: Come The Revolution, socially inept nerds will be in charge of stuff and score all the hawt girls.

    hard9bf

    December 25, 2017 at 5:36 PM

    • I think in the future genetic engineering will allow geeks to customize their sex buddies without the attitude.

      JS

      December 25, 2017 at 7:41 PM

  11. Lion: your fans want you to do a review of ex-machina. It deals with several Lion concepts:

    1. Beta males, how they think, how they operate with females (or robot females) and how they deal with alpha males

    2. Sex bots

    3. AI, what AI really is, and how AI will replace humans

    Otis the Sweaty

    December 25, 2017 at 9:44 PM

  12. interesting theory….now write a blog about mass castration of the elites in order to allow the majority to take back control of the nation

    Big Brained Nibba

    December 26, 2017 at 2:59 AM

  13. “Also remember that any civilization more advanced than ours would have reached the singularity”

    If this was not meant as a joke anyway, it may be worth pointing out that this is obviously not correct. The “singularity” could be just a wet dream of early 21st century human nerds that is either actually impossible (for logical, metaphysical, physiological or physical reasons) or if not impossible it could still be unreachable.

    A few decades ago (or maybe there still is) there was speculation about superheavy stable nuclei far beyond the radioactive elements beyond Uranium (such a stable “island” is predicted by some shell models in nuclear physics). But it could very well be the case that this is a mere possibility because there are no processes in the universe that could synthesize the superheavy nuclei. They are possible in a fashion but the path to them is impossible to travel. The same could be the case for singularity style Super-AIs: The necessary intermediate steps would always lead to unstable, useless systems and so the gap to the theoretically possible Super-AI could not be bridged ever.

    parrhesia

    December 26, 2017 at 4:03 AM

    • Interesting thought — states that could exist but are impossible to get to.

      CamelCaseRob

      December 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM

  14. I know that this post is more about the benefits of Eugenics than Atlantis, but as an aside I don’t believe that Plato’s Atlantis myth is about a great society that is hidden or that fell victim to nefarious outside forces. Also, I don’t think that it’s about genes, directly, except to hint that an influx of bad genes may have assisted in its symbolic fall.

    I think that it’s a tale (real or fiction or both) that illustrates the cyclical economics and social turmoil of a dominant city-state, which I feel rose due to international trade. Its problems likely closely resembled our own, making Atlantis a cautionary tale rather than a city of a golden age whose form we should seek.

    Atlantis symbolically fell due to tumultuous internal forces, and probably was also overrun with foreigners.

    Aside from the other clues that are present in Plato’s account but which I did not review here, the geography is very telling. An island super-nation will always be one who seeks an existence through international trade and naval dominance, similar to Great Britain and its coast-rich USA offspring.

    Dan

    December 27, 2017 at 11:32 PM


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