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#SOTU: Success for Trump

Based on the reaction this morning, it was a success for Trump. People in the MSM who hate Trump seem pissed because they perceive it as good propaganda for Trump. Ironically, merely by being boring and free of new content, it makes Trump seem more presidential.

Democrats booed Trump when (very late into the long speech) he criticized chain migration, even though Trump’s remarks would seem like just common sense to regular Americans who were watching.

I personally criticize the proposed immigration deal for being too soft. It would grant amnesty for a huge number of illegal aliens, allowing chain migration to continue for years and years for existing applications (despite Democratic boos), and there is no E-Verify or any other crackdown on people who cheat the system by hiring illegal aliens.

But despite the softness of the proposed deal, Democrats appear to be so pissed at Trump that there is zero chance they will support it. Hopefully, it falls apart, and Republicans force a better deal through Congress using the so-called “nuclear” option. OK, I’m just dreaming here, but bloggers are dreamers too.

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“Americans are dreamers too” has really triggered the liberals! It’s like “all lives matter.”

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 31, 2018 at 7:19 AM

Posted in Politics

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  1. “Based on the reaction this morning, it was a success for Trump.”

    We can now start the timer for the next self-inflicted Trump wound because they follow with predictable regularity from any success he has.

    Whoever kept him on the chain for the 10 days prior to the election (I suspect Alies) deserves credit for him being President. *Thats* the collusion that really sunk the Dems.

    Lion o' the Turambar

    January 31, 2018 at 7:54 AM

    • The next horrible twitter post will be especially devastating because it will show just what a sham his ghost written sotu speech about working together really is.


      January 31, 2018 at 2:12 PM

      • “ghost written sotu speech”

        What modern president wrote his own speeches? Peggy Noonan wrote Reagan’s speeches.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 31, 2018 at 2:39 PM

      • Yeah, what a bizarre line of attack considering Trump speaks off-script and ad-libs more than any POTUS at least since Hoover.


        January 31, 2018 at 3:27 PM

      • snorlaxwp: That’s the point. The point is that no other president has been stupid enough to broadcast his raw, unfilitered gut reactions to things. It makes the whole SOTU speech (which I didn’t even like) look like a sham. His next twitter outburst will just undo whatever good will he garnered for himself with this speech.


        January 31, 2018 at 4:35 PM

  2. Devil’s advocate: If a Democratic demographic majority is inevitable anyway, I think one could make the argument that the top priority in immigration should be to introduce meaningful systemic reforms rather than prevent amnesties, even if those reforms don’t go into effect in many years. If you’re doomed in the short or medium term no matter what you do, you can at least set yourself up to be able to bounce back in the long term.


    January 31, 2018 at 8:02 AM

    • Were talking about reducing legal immigration by 200k a year while amnestying 10-30 million people. Itll take 50-150 years for that to balance out.


      January 31, 2018 at 2:14 PM

      • “Were talking about…amnestying 10-30 million people” We are?


        January 31, 2018 at 2:44 PM

      • We don’t know what it’ll take to get democrats to go along with reducing legal immigration, but all signs point to citizenship for every single illegal alien, which is 10-30 million people.


        January 31, 2018 at 3:04 PM

      • The democrats are not in charge.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        January 31, 2018 at 4:00 PM

  3. Calling Yakov: I just landed in a scary, heartless terrain called “HVAC Hell”. It’s a land where replacing a heat pump for the upstairs is going to cost me b/w $5,500 – $8,000.

    My upstairs unit is 12 years old and uses freon (which I hear will be phased out in 2020?). I keep hoping to repair it but, but I’ve had 3 HVAC techs come out and inspect the unit. They can’t agree on what’s wrong (“It needs a new compressor”, “No, the compressor is fine but there’s a freon leak somewhere.”

    All agree it’s foolish to dump good money into a 12 year old freon unit. Do you agree? Given that the techs can’t agree on the precise reason the unit is not working, I think replacing it makes sense.

    All this to say that, even for a family man who makes good money — there is never a good time for ~$6000 expense.

    Welcome to hell(!).


    January 31, 2018 at 8:36 AM

    • Gimme your manufacturer, model and serial number and I’ll get back to you.

      As far as the price goes, you gotta make up your mind: if HVAC people are to pay taxes and not take food stamps and Medicaid the prices will be high. #HVAC techs are people too.


      January 31, 2018 at 9:28 AM

      • #HVAC techs are people are DREAMERS too!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 31, 2018 at 10:39 AM

      • I am in the same position as SWPL2- I have two heat pumps and my upstairs (which is just spare bedrooms, gaming room and workout room) is 25 years old and a little flaky.

        Last service call the guy ballparked $5.%K for an average replacement. This would be an optional proactive expense at this point.

        What brands would you consider?

        Lion o' the Turambar

        January 31, 2018 at 10:51 AM

      • Also, is the quote for replacing just the condenser or the whole system?


        January 31, 2018 at 10:56 AM

      • Gimme the model# and manufacturer.


        January 31, 2018 at 11:59 AM

      • I’ve decided to replace the system. All of the quotes for replacing the split heat pump were between $5000 and $7000. Having spoken to a bunch of techs and salesmen, I feel like I’ve learned a great deal.

        I’ve settled on a Trane XR14 / TEM4 and the HVAC tech is doing it all for $4950 (tax included). For my area this seems to be a very good price. It’s a family company that is well reviewed on Angie’s List and didn’t pressure me to make a decision. He did offer a cheaper model (an Ameristar from China), but he suggested that the aluminum coils with a Trane might last longer than the copper coils with the Ameristar). “If you’re going to be in this house for another 10 years, get the Trane. If you plan to sell this house in the next few years, get the Ameristar.”) Another HVAC salesman offered me a good deal on a Carrier model (around $5800 all in), but our upstairs area is not all that big…if I was going to splurge it would be on the downstairs unit, where we entertain guests etc.

        I definitely don’t begrudge HVAC techs from charging for their service…it’s a damned valuable service! The issue is that I haven’t been a home owner very long so I was completely ignorant of the substantial cost of these repairs. Now I know to put extra money away every month for our downstairs air conditioning unit (that one is a Trane from 2004…I’m certain it’s waiting for the “perfect day” to die).

        So the lesson I’ve learned is to budget extra dough in the bank for HVAC issues. Today I am a man.


        January 31, 2018 at 1:06 PM

      • @SWPL2

        What’s the size of the unit? Are you replacing the line set?


        January 31, 2018 at 3:01 PM

  4. From the Left we are hearing a few things today:

    1. The economy isn’t doing better than it was under Obama
    2. Trump’s attacks on immigrants are evil
    3. The speech will be forgotten in 2 days

    I’m not interested in 1 and 2, but issue 3 is worth examining. With the general public, it is true that any gains Trump makes with this speech will be small and short lived, but what was more important is that the speech tied the party more closely to Trump. This is a big deal going into the midterms and into the endgame of the Mueller saga.

    Adam Gingrich says this is how it will play out with Mueller:

    1. Mueller and Trump’s lawyers will negotiate a type of written correspondence with Trump where Trump will send affidavits, instead of have an in person sit down deposition.
    2. After this, Mueller will move for an in person sit down depo. Trump’s lawyers will rebuff this request flatly, saying that there is no evidence of obstruction or collusion and so they won’t continue any further in the process. What they will say is, “Give the President all the info you have and what charges you are looking into so I know what information I have that he can help you with.”
    3. Mueller is gonna say, “Since you are the one under investigation, I’m not going to do so.”
    4. At this stage Mueller blinks. He stops the investigation and holds a press conference where he says he believes that the President was extremely careless with his campaign visa vi the Russians and that he may have colluded with the Russians but he can’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Mueller will then say that he believes that the President has obstructed justice, but since the President refuses to speak to a certain set of questions to me, I am unable to prove that he has either perjured himself or obstructed justice. Mueller will say that he is now turning over everything his investigation has covered to Congress because impeachment is a political question, not a legal one.
    5. Deep state hack Mueller then rides off into the sunset, never to be heard from again.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 31, 2018 at 8:43 AM

    • vis-à-vis


      January 31, 2018 at 9:04 AM

    • Mueller won’t say those things in the press conference because he has zero evidence to even suspect it let alone investigate or prove it. The worst he can say is that Trump’s rhetoric during the campaign was too friendly to Russia and that’s bad because Russia and Putin are bad and any patriotic American would know that we should be willing to go to war against Russia at the slightest provocation.

      Andrew E.

      January 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM

      • A patriotic American would be willing to at least stand up to Russian aggression. Trump may not have committed a crime, but he is weakening America abroad to an extent we haven’t seen since Jimmy Carter.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 31, 2018 at 2:52 PM

      • Weather patriotic or not, it’s about time that America realizes that other countries, including Russia, have their own national interest and areas of influence and stop distabilizing them and interfering in their internal affairs.


        January 31, 2018 at 4:07 PM

      • Crimea and the bungled attempt to deprive Russia of its Syrian naval base happened under Obama’s watch. And Georgia under GWB. To date the Trump administration is head and shoulders over those jokers’ inept posturing.


        January 31, 2018 at 7:57 PM

    • black unemployment has been declining since Obama was in office — thanks to Jeff Bezos, Barnes & Noble, Chipotle, Whole Foods, Best Buy, CVS, Walgreens and Trader Joe’s. Some doodoo has to patronize these places and frivolous consume to keep these businesses alive. You get the picture.


      January 31, 2018 at 10:14 AM

    • Sounds like a slightly less crazed Democratic wet dream.

      In actuality, Mueller is trapped. Pinned like a butterfly on a board. First, the Memo will show that this entire investigation was a cooked up sham. But that will be nothing once the IG’s Report (cough, Obama appointee, cough) eviscerates the FBI/DOJ and shows, among other things, that this was a complete cooked up sham.

      I suspect that even now Mueller is under investigation by the FBI. Certainly he is peripherally involved in U1, if not others where he gave Hillary a pass.

      I would speculate that he is maneuvering for a way to maintain his freedom and his so-called “spotless” record.

      The winning for Trump is just now getting under way.


      January 31, 2018 at 10:40 AM

    • Adam Gingrich says this is how it will play out with Mueller:

      You mean Newt Gingrich?

      1. Mueller and Trump’s lawyers will negotiate a type of written correspondence with Trump where Trump will send affidavits, instead of have an in person sit down deposition.

      If Trump’s strategy is to let the investigation bleed credibility but allow Mueller to stay on then Trump should not and will not give any testimony.

      Mueller is obviously going to design to questions to be perjury traps.

      If Trump doesn’t testify then Mueller can’t move the goal posts to a process crime (perjury/false statements) absent an underlying “collusion” crime nor to take attention away from the fact the motivations for the FBI investigation are coming under constant attack from items like the Intel Committee memo, the IG investigative report, etc.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 31, 2018 at 3:03 PM

  5. bloggers are dreamers too.

    So important!


    January 31, 2018 at 8:57 AM

    • And so brave!

      Lion is our Rosa Parks


      January 31, 2018 at 9:13 AM

      • Lion, please consider changing your twitter display name to “Rosa Parks of the Blogosphere” and doing a series of posts for Black History Month where you compare yourself to civil rights leaders.

        Horace Pinker

        January 31, 2018 at 2:25 PM

  6. “Americans are dreamers too” has really triggered the liberals!

    That’s because, deep down, liberals hate Americans. Studies have shown that conservatives rate higher on loyalty than liberals. The more liberal one is the less loyal they are. Liberals are prejudiced against their own country and extreme liberals actually put the interests of strangers and foreigners above their own families and even their own children. That’s not a joke. Psychology experiments have repeatedly shown this. So, yes, speaking out on behalf of Americans infuriates liberals.


    January 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM

    • True, Euro liberals hate the states, and so do many French Canadians who embrace Euro Style liberalism.


      January 31, 2018 at 11:30 AM

      • But again, American liberal are wingnuts, because they are righter than the right leaners of Europe.


        January 31, 2018 at 11:31 AM

      • JS please elaborate on why you think American liberals are right wing.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        January 31, 2018 at 4:06 PM

      • The fundamental traits of Meriprolics is that they are inherently conservative and anti-intellectual — in addition, they love government meddling in every facet of life based on tribal affiliations. This is a reactionary behavior.

        Liberals tend to hate proles and want the government to ensure they do not benefit at the expense of racial minorities. This is the inverse of the right wingnuts who are the opposite and want the government to clamp down on non-whites, especially the immigrant types who milk the system.

        Furthermore, American liberals rarely foster an environment conducive to self actualization, creativity or intellectualism. They only react to more conservative, which are often pro-white, anti-intellectual ideologies

        European liberals don’t want bureaucracy to micromanage the individual, they only want it to facilitate a good life for the average citizen — and this is the basic fundamental right of man. The government is suppose to make everyone happy.

        Most important, Euro wingnuts believe in this same idea and are agreement with Euro liberals in everything, except their governments shouldn’t provide the good life to non-natives.


        January 31, 2018 at 11:06 PM

    • Deep down?


      January 31, 2018 at 6:20 PM

  7. The most important thing is the ratings & I can’t get any clear info from the controlled press. They are comparing it w/his 1st speech of last year, which isn’t fair. I want to compare Trump SOTU1 with Obama SOTU8 and I can’t get any figures. The press is totally controlled.


    January 31, 2018 at 12:03 PM

  8. Getting the Democrats worked up about chain migration and “dreamers” is politically a brilliant move. If the Democrats were intelligent they would let Trump have his way on immigration and attack him on his tax cuts for the rich, his ties to Goldman Sachs, his fake infrastructure plan and his give-aways to the extraction industries, but they don’t. They just keep harping on moronic identity politics issues. Trump has made it impossible for the Democrats to run as saviors of the working class in 2018 and exposed them for the utter frauds they are.

    It will be interesting to see whether Trump has opened the door for a true populist, like a Ross Perot, to now attack both the GOP and Democratic elites, or has sucked all the oxygen out of the room making a populist attack from either the right or left impossible. I am guessing the latter, and that may be what the elites have been counting on.

    Peter Akuleyev

    January 31, 2018 at 2:51 PM

    • Trump have his way on immigration and attack him on his tax cuts for the rich, his ties to Goldman Sachs, his fake infrastructure plan and his give-aways to the extraction industries, but they don’t.

      The Democrats won’t attack the infrastructure plan because unions will get a good portion of the government pork. Unions will be especially desperate for money if SCOTUS overturns Abood this year.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 31, 2018 at 3:05 PM

      • Please write more on the Scotus case.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        January 31, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    • True. Since tax reform the elites are warming up to Trump. Jamie Dimon said so himself. This is good because it is slowly red pilling the rich and getting them to go along with immigration restriction. As long as they keep getting richer they won’t care much about the deportations. Trump is a rainmaker so he is bringing back tons of jobs but not instituting populism in a socialist manner. It’s the best of both worlds.


      January 31, 2018 at 3:38 PM

    • If the democrats give in on immigration they lose their demographic victory, their low wages loving donor base, and the white hating cultural elite. That ain’t smart politics.


      January 31, 2018 at 4:40 PM

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