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Sweden: crime-ridden because of immigration

https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-bombings-grenade-attacks-violent-reality-undoing-peaceful-self-image-law-and-order/

Article in Politico about how peaceful Sweden has become crime-ridden because of immigration.

The head of the paramedics’ union Ambulansförbundet, Gordon Grattidge, and his predecessor Henrik Johansson recently told me in an interview that some neighborhoods are definitely no-go for ambulance drivers — at least without police protection.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 18, 2018 at EDT am

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  1. There national crime statistics are almost at american white levels! It’s hard to overstate just how dumb conservatives are for crowing about this.

    Magnavox

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • You’ve outdone yourself with this masterstroke of obfuscation. Btw did you know that Baltimore is a very wealthy city, compared to Harare.

      Roli

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • What obfuscation? Conservatives have this fantasy that immigration has turned Europe into a forsaken shit hole but that america still has a chance to save itself. This is errant nonsense. America is in a much worse place demographically and blacks, who conservatives have a pathological need to slather with unearned praise, by themselves constitute a much graver threat to America than any minority population in Europe. And America has Hispanics and dysfunctional southern whites in addition to its black population.

        Baltimore is a much bigger shithole and all around tragedy than any muslim area in Europe.

        America is the originator and continuing embodiment of the diversity cult that is destroying Europe. It ridiculous to think that it is in a better position.

        Magnavox

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The point is not the total numbers, the point is to show that responsible immigration will cause more crime relatively to the previous levels, it is true for America and for Europe.

        Hashed

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • If you had an even rudimentary appreciation for statistics, you would compare contemporary Swedish crime with Swedish crime from ten years ago or twenty years ago. Bringing US crime into the mix, renders your argument useless and pointless.

        Roli

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Blacks dont pose an existential threat to whites in the US because they dont have particularly high fertility and dont have a desire to force their culture and values on others. Hispanics integrate very well into the US and because they are multi-racial and on a gradient to between 30%-90% white, they are never going to hate whites. The worse that can happen to the US is that a low IQ workforce will turn it into a third world economy. But noone is going to force Americans to pretend to pray 5 times a day and pretend to fast during Ramadan. Also America is used to multiculturalism so has sufficient laws already in place to deal with it (death penalty, right to bear arms and shoot trespassers, minimal welfare state, etc.) Sweden’s laws evolved in a monoculture so they are sitting ducks right now and will have to adapt very quickly.

        DataExplorer

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @DataExplorer:

        This is a very sunny prognosis. Young black males are a serious problem for any area that has them, and Hispanics while not enforcing prayer, will enforce you having to hear “Despacito” roughly 10 times a day, which honestly may be worse.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • Conservatives are just dumb and bigoted against muslims and mainstream ones combine that with an even dumber worship of blacks and Martin Luther King. And add to that this pathetic drive to see europe fail to justify conservatives own economic cuckness and you have quite a toxic mix. The dumbness of those things is way more than the sum of it’s parts.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • ” Young black males are a serious problem for any area that has them”

        That’s true, but at least their crimes have no political implications. When they rob, rape, steal, etc. it’s just for short-term gratification. Immigrant crime in Europe is part of an overall cultural strategy to terrorize and eventually dominate and subjugate.

        fortaleza84

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • There is no reason not be be prejudiced against Muslims. In fact, the historical record clearly shows that not being prejudiced against them is dumb.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • I disagree with the Mestizo integration rationalization.

        Black criminals are violent but extremely stupid and thus overall less lethal to outside groups and controllable. Keep building prisons and don’t live near them.

        Mestizo criminals benefit from extra IQ points that allow them to more effectively run things like international cartels and more effectively get away with murder and other crimes. And they have just as much, if not more, capacity for extreme violence. They are much more of a threat to their adjacent populations because of their IQ enhanced ability to cooperate with one another.

        Dumber criminals are always preferable to smarter. The extra IQ merely means extra lethality.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • There is no reason not be be prejudiced against Muslims. In fact, the historical record clearly shows that not being prejudiced against them is dumb.

        I’m defining bigotry as irrational. I’m all for a permanent ban on muslim immigration but the fact is lots of conservatives don’t know any muslims or anything about Islam and have gotten themsemves manipulated into a completely irrational bigotry against muslims. If you hate muslims but love black people an Martin Luther King or think that crime ridden, culturally alienated, economically depressed urban areas are a european Muslim phenomenon then you’re obviously not thinking straight.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Also America is used to multiculturalism so has sufficient laws already in place to deal with it (death penalty, right to bear arms and shoot trespassers, minimal welfare state, etc.)

        And yet crime rates in Sweden are still not even at the white american level. You’re just propping up your own pathetic country and ethnicity by projecting some imagined horrible future of what is currently a better country with better people.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @Dorian Because Hispanics have those extra IQ points they are less likely to be criminals than blacks. This is especially true for violent crime.When Hispanics took over South Central Los Angeles from blacks violent crime rates fell dramatically.

        Jay Fink

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

      • @Magnavox I am by far more threatened by Muslims than any other group because they want to change Western culture. I highly value women looking sexy in public and Muslims want to take this away.

        Jay Fink

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

    • Do these feral third world animals rape at the same rate as white Americans?

      Horace Pinker

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • They rape at the same rate comparable to black Americans, I think that is Magnavox’s point. Sweden has become more dangerous, but it is still safer than the US. Sweden’s immigrant population is still a lot smaller than the US black and Latino population so despite immigration Sweden is still much much “whiter” than the US:

        That said, Sweden seems to have attracted a particularly feral kind of immigrant. Austria has a lot more Muslims than Sweden, but the crime level is nowhere near as high. May be Sweden has just taken the worst of the worst, or it may be because Swedes are so soft, the immigrants feel entitled to prey on the locals. Austrian cops are like Boston cops – quietly racist, violent, and effective. And there seems to be a tacit agreement ,even among left leaning media, not to talk too much about that. As long as they keep us safe.

        Peter Akuleyev

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Probably. But murder is generally considered the most reliable statistic.

        Magnavox

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • My point is also that American whites aren’t even that great compared to Swedish ones. Conservatives just have this pathetic, completely cucked, desire to see Europe destroy itself as though that will somehow shore up their ridiculous and totally discredited economic ideas.

        Magnavox

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “Probably. But murder is generally considered the most reliable statistic.”

        Do you have a link for Swedish crime statistics that break things down demographically, or do they not count things that way because it’s racist? The wikipedia page on crime in Sweden doesn’t say anything about demographics.

        “Conservatives just have this pathetic, completely cucked, desire to see Europe destroy itself as though that will somehow shore up their ridiculous and totally discredited economic ideas.”

        Huh? Please explain. “Conservatives” are big on free trade and the immigration that comes with it.

        Horace Pinker

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I for one do not want Europe to destroy itself! I’m watching in horror as it does so.

        Rosenmops

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “as though that will somehow shore up their ridiculous and totally discredited economic ideas.”

        THAT is your point. It took you long enough but I knew you’d get to it eventually. Your little bitchfest has nothing to do with anything except socialism. You’re mad because no one else shares your strange combination of socialism and anti-immigration (except maybe that pinko tool Akuleyev), So you’re constantly throwing a tantrum about “conservatives”.

        What you stupidly fail to understand is that all the problems we face are rooted in socialism. Immigration is corporate socialism. Gay rights is rainbow socialism. Affirmative action is racial socialism. Environmentalism is green socialism. And Feminism? Well, hell, that’s just socialism in panties!

        And what is socialism? It’s when one group tries to extort wealth and privilege at the expense of another. Period. That’s all it is — looting. And they’re all trying to loot US. Maybe you think you can loot a piece for yourself or something. Not going to happen. They’re not going to let you into their little socialist coalition because you’re the stupid mf’er they’re all trying to loot! Dumb ass.

        destructure

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I for one do not want Europe to destroy itself! I’m watching in horror as it does so.

        Good! But you also have to accept that America is further along.

        destructure: socialized medicine would cost 2 trillion dollars less a year. So is the current system actually socialism because the health care industry is looting $2,000,000,000,000.00 (2 followed by twelve zeros!) every year through the favorable regulation they’ve bought?

        Magnavox

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • gothamette

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @destructure,

        Pardon the long-winded quote, but the problems of this country go back to the Declaration of Independence, or rather, its writer.

        “It is well known to those who have travelled a great deal in the United States, that Virginia is one of the most agreeable parts of the Union, that there are many persons in it who eminently deserve the character of gentlemen, and that Virginians are, generally speaking, a lively and ingenious people, full of kind attentions to those who go amongst them…

        …but the complexity of political opinions in modern times is so great, that a traveller who is merely passing through the State, and has not paid particular attention to Virginian politics, is quite baffled in the attempt to understand what he reads or what he hears. The principal cause of this degeneracy from the straightforward and simple principles of the old school is fairly attributable to that eminent person who is considered by many of his admirers in America and in Europe to be the Confucius of the United States. Now whether this parallel is flattering to the memory of Mr. Jefferson or not, it would certainly seem to be true that he believed, as that antique philosopher did, that little was wanting to produce good government amongst mankind beyond a string of well concocted abstract maxims; he therefore bequeathed to his countrymen a set of opinions that were quite independent of anything taught by the Christian religion, and which to a great extent he had derived, during his residence in Paris at the period of the French Revolution from those Gallic philosophers who, dissatisfied with the condition of man as it develops itself through the various degrees of intellect, temper, and physical power with which Providence has endowed him, attempted to bring all to a philanthropic equality by the lively action of the guillotine.”

        Ahem.

        We were founded by a man who believed heart and soul in violent revolution, and who didn’t understand much about human nature.

        Jefferson is the father of our country, not Washington.

        The quote is from George Featherstonehaugh, Excursion Through The Slave States. Fascinating book. Written in 1844, I believe.

        https://archive.org/details/excursionthrough00featiala

        gothamette

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • „pinko tool Akuleyev“

        I may be a lot of things, but „pinko“ isn‘t one of them. But in a world where Trump is „conservative „ clearly political labels have no meaning.

        Peter Akuleyev

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • The US has been very stable politically so I don’t see how you can point to Jefferson’s endorsement of political volence as having much effect. The origin of our problem very much lies in slavery, both because of the pattern it set up of giving the wealthy societally destructive cheap labor and the civil Rights movement it eventually brought about. Modern immigration is at once about civil rights on the one hand and securing cheap labor on the other.

        I really agree with far leftists that these slave owning founding fathers were real pieces of shit. The north should have stayed with canada.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • Magnavox,

        Who are Americans going to steal from to bring down the cost of healthcare?

        map

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “socialized medicine would cost 2 trillion dollars less a year.”

        No it wouldn’t. It would balloon out of control just like every other government program.

        “So is the current system actually socialism because the health care industry is looting $2,000,000,000,000.00 (2 followed by twelve zeros!) every year through the favorable regulation they’ve bought?”

        I’m not convinced the “healthcare industry” is looting 2T. You sound like someone who hasn’t bothered to investigate where the money actually goes. I normally wouldn’t reference a response to a Quora question. But David Chan’s answer is so good that I’ll make an exception. An excellent summary of reasons I’ve read in more formal publications.
        https://www.quora.com/What-makes-the-US-healthcare-system-so-expensive-Why-is-the-US-so-expensive-compared-to-Canada

        Regardless, the government isn’t better, more efficient or less expensive at anything. That’s not why other countries spend less on healthcare, But, yes, medicaid and medicare are socialist, In fact, even private insurance is technically socialist. But not the way government is. Because, at least with private insurance voluntarily purchased on the free market, people have a right to opt out when they’re getting screwed.

        destructure

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I normally wouldn’t reference a response to a Quora question.

        That’s the policy of reasonable non desperate people. But every single thing that guy lists would be solved by utility style regulation except for the one about fraud, which isn’t limited to medicaid and medicare. It would also solve the single biggest cause of high US prices, which Chan doesn’t mention, which is that equivalent services are so much more expensive in the US compared to other countries.

        Regardless, the government isn’t better, more efficient or less expensive at anything./em>

        This is just a pathetic delusion. Even ideologues accept the need for price controls in utilities.

        Because, at least with private insurance voluntarily purchased on the free market, people have a right to opt out when they’re getting screwed.

        Well that says a lot about how dumb your thinking is. The same services cost more without insurance and almost no one willingly forgoes needed medical treatment.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Healthcare in the US is expensive for one reason and one reason only. The insurance scam. Insurance companies and healthcare providers actively prevent price transparency and pretend like you are getting a bargain when they “let you” pay only 90% of the cost. Force all hospitals and doctors to post prices for routine procedures upfront and prices fall by 66-90%. Ie you can pay with cash.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “The US has been very stable politically”

        No it hasn’t. It fell apart 87 years after its founding into one of the bloodiest civil wars the world has ever seen, and has been kept together by force ever since. We’ve had four presidents assassinated by gunshot and many others.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians

        How many Prime Ministers have been assassinated?

        We’ve had numerous race riots. We had thousands of lynchings. And all this, when whites were firmly in control of, well, everything.

        Don’t expect this “stability” to last.

        gothamette

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “What I’m opposed to is this pathetic completely delusional american triumphalism.”

        That’s hardly true of the people here. I think u r talking about the National Review/Breitbart crowd.

        That said we are not as down on America as the true alt-right. They hate what it always was. We wish the old America was back – but it can’t come back, it’s gone with the wind.

        gothamette

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “That’s the policy of reasonable non desperate people.”

        Dr Chan is an Assistant Professor at the Stanford School of Medicine as well as a Faculty Research Fellow at the National Bureau of Economic Research. That makes him one of the foremost experts on this topic. But, by all means, take a cheap shot.

        “But every single thing that guy lists would be solved by utility style regulation”

        Yeah. Rationing care and letting sick people die is one heck of a “solution”. That’s the way countries with socialized medicine control costs.

        “This is just a pathetic delusion. Even ideologues accept the need for price controls in utilities. “

        A patient is easier to move than a power plant.

        “The same services cost more without insurance and almost no one willingly forgoes needed medical treatment.”

        I’m not opposed to private health insurance. So I don’t know what you’re on about. But if costs got high enough then, yeah, I’d opt out. It’s a gamble. But lots of people take that gamble and do fine.

        For the record, I currently live in a country with socialized medicine and it works great… as long as you don’t really need it.

        destructure

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @Horace Pinker For a very long time in France it is illegal to report things like crime by ethnic background. You don’t see anyone holding mass protests to stop this. You can’t count by ethnic background, in a simple census. France doesn’t even known how many Muslims they have.

        I don’t know if it’s true (the link references Breitbart) but the Swedish govt has either stopped reporting crime by ethnic background or is planning to do so. They’re so concentrated in Malmo it might not matter.

        Frau Katze

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

      • destructure: If you can’t see that other countries have vastly cheaper more effective systems then I’m obviously not going to convince you. A cuck is a cuck, its fundamentally an emotional rather an intellectual thing.

        Map: To the very limited extent that all the added expense in the US system creates innovation that the rest of the world piggy banks off of that that obviously needs to stop. It’s not 1946 anymore and the US has middling standards of living by first world standards and is dropping fast. It’s not our job to subsidize a bunch of other countries that are richer and smarter than we are. That would be one of the advantages of adopting a first world style health care system. But as with military spending, where I think other countries actually do benefit significantly from US spending, its not about helping other countries its about subsidizing large american businesses.

        Magnavox

        April 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Sweden has double the number of reported rapes than does the US.

      toomanymice

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • There is no single way to define rapes.

        Magnavox

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • However defined, Sweden’s rape rate has risen in the last 20 years. I suppose you’ll say that correlation isn’t causation.

        gothamette

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Noone is denying that crime is going up in sweden. I don’t even think Sweden should let southern Europeans immmigrate, let alone Muslims. What I’m opposed to is this pathetic completely delusional american triumphalism.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • @Magnavox True, but relevent mostly for stupid white girls who get drunk and then voluntarily go to the man’s hotel room.

        The distinction is, do they know each other? Stranger rape is completely different.

        Judging by what stats we have the Muslims are not usually in the first category (know each other) although a few could be.

        In Germany stranger attacks are disproportionately Muslim.

        And let’s not get started on Muslim grooming gangs in Britain. That’s a very distinctive crime.

        Frau Katze

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

      • Grooming is just pimping. It’s only “distinctive” because the british use a different word and treating it as something uniquely heinous feeds into ignorant american’s Islamophobia. These british girls are literal whores and these dumb dumb conservatives look really stupid pulling a trayvon martin and illustrating all their articles with pictures of them as smiling 12 year olds. Grooming is also all about building a relationship and so isn’t stranger rape. So it’s not as important by your own standards.

        Magnavox

        April 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • What’s an “American White”?

      We have Northeast Wops
      East coast WASPS
      East coast Germans
      Northeast Irish
      Inland German farmer stock
      West coast German and Scandi stock
      North Central Scandi stock
      Inland mountain-forest Scots Irish stock
      Texas Germans
      Coastal Jews
      Coastal Slavs
      Coastal Persians
      And all manner of mestizos everywhere that count as White in government statistics

      Rarely do these groups intermingle or share culture and behavior. So, who are you referring to?

      Dorian

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The full blown, ambiguity of the Anglo Prole Sphere stemming from its vast and disparate cultural and racial elements defines its subjects based on phenotype and race categories, and not of ethnic makeup, when one wants to discern an in-group vs an out-group. Irish, Italians and Jews feel akin with each other in a city like NYC, when numerous, non-Western, non-white, 3rd world immigrants are at their backdrop. Furthermore, adding White transplants from greater America into the mix, your so called inland Germans and Scandis, and they feel right at home with NYC’s White ethnic groups, because of the same reason.

        JS

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • “The full blown, ambiguity of the Anglo Prole Sphere stemming from its vast and disparate cultural and racial elements defines its subjects based on phenotype and race categories, and not of ethnic makeup”

        The fact is that my list more or less is fully diversified by race and phenotype, with some crossover in ethnic Germanic stock that would resemble but still not largely match one another by subclade across groups.

        There are at least three historical genetically and ethnically distinct German tribes in Germany, not including North Germans (Scandinavians) and not accounting for individuals resulting from modern racial migration from without Germany to within.

        If you want to get less specific, there are two tribes: East and West Germans. But I don’t find that distinction high resolution enough in a historical (nor modern) sense.

        The only true cultural difference that occurs, in the presence of racial consistency, is when the same genetic tribe (by majority haplotype and general haplotype mix) occupies both coastal and inland regions or occupies both urban and rural regions. The exception to the cultural similarity rule is when individuals partake in cultural extremes: like when they go hard Left or are Amish. However, I am referencing the large group and not the outliers.

        Though, there will be cultural similarities in all places where any one specific tribe resides, even if no other overt cultural parallel can be bothered to be illustrated (though it is usually there). This accounts for the Right noticing racially distinct behavioral difference across groups.

        Your problem is that you haven’t learned to detect “white” yet. That is, you haven’t learned to see haplotype yet. There is no genetically meaningful race called “White”.

        Separating out individuals (most groups are effectively haplotype-mixed throughout the world, but the limits on that mix are what defines the race), and to use colloquial terminology instead of specific haplotypes (which I can also cite), we have Nord, Celts, Nordicized Celts, Slavs, Nordicized Slavs, and all manner of subclades for the “White” group. These range from vastly racially different to effective cousins. But still racially different.

        I am specifically omitting “Jews” (in quotes for the moment to acknowledge that I am using an ethnic term to describe a racial mix) here not because they don’t deserve to be described but because it would take another paragraph and my point can be made using the groups already mentioned. Its off topic. I am omitting describing the Irish for the same reason.

        “Feeling akin” is meaningless except perhaps when a shared political enemy is targeted. I am deeply familiar with Irish, Jews, and Italians in the Northeast to include in NYC. The largest crossover would be at the margins, but even then the large groups are both culturally and genetically distinct. You must be absolutely joking to state that NYC Jews as a whole (vast swaths of them being Orthodox) have any meaningful genetic or other integration with anyone else, outside of those that outbreed and get lost in the mix. I acknowledge that there are a lot of these, but that doesn’t change that the core group remains largely untouched.

        Trust me. Irish, Germans, and Italians do not mix very well. Some will, but most won’t. The core groups have vastly differing behavior / cultural patterns.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • I’ll amend my response to concede that the Irish and Italians havve long mixed here in a significant fashion, to the point that there is a lot of mixed genetics (but still distinct groups). However, these groups have long co-occupied urban regions, whereas Germans have long reigned (demographically) in places in he USA that these groups do not significantly exist. A fact that underlies my prior point about differing racial behaviors (and preferences for economic modes) that exist within the supposed “White” race. There are rural farmers, urban merchants, and exurban factory labor.

        Also, the Irish and the majority of Italians are very racially similar. Most being R1b, of differing subclades across both groups. This is excluding other “race” haplotypes typical of both “Italians” and Irish. Ie” the “Iberian” Irish breed and Germanic Italians that seem to be rare in the US vs their southern Celtic and mixed African race “Italian” neighbors.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • “What’s an “American White”?”

        Oh, yeah…this stupid argument.

        An American white is the one targeted for discrimination by the US government.

        Funny how the state seems to have far less trouble defining “white” than Dorian.

        map

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “You must be absolutely joking to state that NYC Jews as a whole (vast swaths of them being Orthodox) have any meaningful genetic or other integration with anyone else, outside of those that outbreed and get lost in the mix”

        Well, yeah, I’m ripping a page from TUJ’s book. Secular Jews of Manhattan often associate with White Gentiles, because non-token afros, the majority of Hispanics, and Asians are too racially distant to join in the SWPL crowd.

        JS

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Dorian, is there a reason why Italians are the only ethnic group you referenced with a slur?

        maryk

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

    • There is no such thing as “American white levels.”

      It goes state by state.

      gothamette

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • Over the years I’ve spoken to a lot of police friends in Europe.The stats–police, health, education, etc.– are massaged so they’re low. The key is to look at non-gang homicide rates and how they’re defined. Murder is tough to massage, though it is done.

      Sweden is a perfect example of a ‘paradise’ long worse than the US. One head of police told me UK stats were 5 times worse than the US since the ’60’s, and that was in the ’90’s. They simply don’t report or classify downwards a lot of crimes and other incidents. And East Europe is worse. Japan covers up a lot of murders as suicides. When you look at primarily White areas of the US they’re far lower than even the massaged official pan-Euro stats.

      Right now the UK has a crime wave so of course the government is trying to impose knife control on law-abiding gunless citizens, and the media is obsessing on how the US needs more gun control.

      The rest of the world is far worse. The Left always lies.

      Robert

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

  2. Sweden is the exemplary poster child of the dysfunction that liberal immigration policies bring into a country. But how exactly do you explain that to dyed in the wool stupid liberals who will initially deny Sweden has any problems at all, and later insist that any and all problems are simply the result of racism and Islamophobia directed towards immigrants in that country.

    Roli

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • The idiot leftists say it’s our fault that Muslims don’t integrate.

      From reading extensively on the Middle East, it seems to be the case that some fraction of Muslims (perhaps as high as 50% for urban elite, much lower for proles) aren’t even believers.

      But you’re putting your life on the line to admit this. The official policy is death for anyone who leaves Islam. The government doesn’t have to enforce this, the crazed Muslims in the general population will carry this out.

      The 50% is a guessed based 1) A book I read on Osama bin Laden’s enoumous family. The author described how fond the non-believers are of the freedom of the West, and he put the split at 50/50

      2) The protests that eventually got the Muslim Brotherhood out of power in Egypt during In the “Arab Spring.” The Brotherhood are fanatics. (I read a whole book on them by an Arab man who could get closer to them, but he was also a non-believer and a UK academic. The Brotherhood is an awful thing, they sound like cultists). Anyway, there was a very large group of Egyptians who wanted them gone, even if it meant a military dictatorship. It seemed about 50% of population wanted them gone. They gathered names in a petition. Massive crowds protested.

      One complication is the how many Christians there are in Egypt. No government had ever made an honest attempt to count them. They definitely a minority. But we can assume that 100% of them wanted the Brotherhood out.

      In any case there massive celebrations after they were kicked out. The photos showed the crowds, the fireworks.

      So, some fraction of Muslim immigrants will assimilate. But many, even if they live in the West and are non-believers, may be trapped in clans so they can’t marry outside the clan.

      Assimilation won’t happen without intermarriage.

      Frau Katze

      April 20, 2018 at EDT am

  3. How appropriate is it that Sweden (in this context) is the prime example of an entire country in the grip of Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to immigration?

    Sign at Stockholm Int’l Airport:
    “Sweden welcomes our returning ISIS freedom fighters. Swedish born citizens should be advised that criticizing immigrants or immigration policy is racist, and may be punishable by fines and/or up to 2 years incarceration.”

    Remember how they roasted President Trump for pointing out the obvious?

    OK – that’s not a real sign (at least, not yet).

    gda

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I think Trudeau has really put up a sign like that in Canada. ISIS war criminals? No problem! Welcome back to Canada!

      Rosenmops

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

  4. Only a dictatorship that can save Sweden. All other comments are meaningless and will not help that poor country.

    Yakov

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Monarchy is the only institution that can save any nation. Nations that choose the power hungry to rule over them, instead of those simply born into power, are doomed and damned.

      Anonymous Fake

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The United Kingdom isn’t saved, in spite of their monarchy.

        Mike Street Station

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • They castrated and housebroke their monarchy bit by bit from the late 19th century on.

        One could make the case that the monarchy, especially in the form of the present Queen, retarded the decay for a decade or two… but I readily admit I have no proof of that. You can’t clone countries.

        In any case, when she goes, the monarchy goes, and England goes.

        gothamette

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • Sweden has as much of a monarchy as England.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • The UK doesn’t have a monarchy in the governmental sense. It has a parliament.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • True, Yakov. This has always been the subtext of the dissident Right. Not out of primary desire, but out of primary necessity. No center can hold. Either the Left or the Right will eventually arrive at a successful dictatorship. We used to call it Monarchy.

      Dorian

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I’m not a believer in monarchy. Fascism is neither right nor left – it’s a radical center. I think it’s the practical approach for these troubled times.

        Yakov

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Would you be able to describe why you believe that fascism is the radical center? I’d be interested in the argument.

        I define the political sphere by the social tenor. Social tenor (effective family and community bonding and positive outcomes) underlies the effectiveness of human cooperation. The effectiveness of human cooperation is what builds political power. Thus, the political spectrum is defined wholly by the social sphere.

        This is why I have a hard time envisioning fascism as center.

        Because the center seeks to balance the group social sphere between conservatism and liberalism rather than to allow it to become optimally conservative and thus maximally politically effective, or rather than to become maximally liberal and thus sociopolitically disintegrate. Which are the the respective goals of a group (inherently internally Right Wing) and its enemies (inherently outwardly Left Wing).

        My concept of fascism is a government that prioritizes the social health of its people by facilitating for a group culture that maximizes the most functional family and community bonds (ie: cultivating for functional behavior and rejecting dysfunctional behavior and individuals), and thus seeks to maximize its group political self determination. For me, this seems to define a Right Wig rather than Center government.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • I’m new to this so my thought on the subject aren’t worked out yet, but here is what I think. A nationalist approach seeks the welfare of a nation and this requires practical, not ideological solutions. Take health care, for example. What’s happening today when tens of millions don’t have it because they cannot afford it is an outrage from the nationalist perspective. What to do? I don’t know, but I would put Magna, destructive and Lion in a room and make them come up with something that’s gonna work. A nation needs to have access to good healthcare. So here you have it: neither left nor right, not bound by by either a socialist or a free market ideology. This is center. It’s radical because it’s authoritarian and violent and is meant for critical times. Magna, destructive an Lion can’t just sit there and talk with no results, you know. I don’t want to say what would happen to them if they fail to offer a solution, but if I’m running the show, it won’t be pretty. I would shut down their blogging for starters. We need people who have real solutions, not talkers. Not gonna get anywhere this way.

        Yakov

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

  5. I love these stories about “no go” zones because a few years ago the media here in America claimed they were a myth.

    Gozo

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • The past, if it doesn’t support the present narrative, didn’t happen.

      Curle

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • It’s partly because the media are too dumb or lazy to understand context. There are no “no-go” zones in Sweden for a normal white man (or even a middle aged modestly dressed white woman) during daylight hours. If I want to walk into the worst part of Malmö and buy a kebab and baklava chances are nothing will happen, and I will feel much safer than I would in North Philadelphia or Camden. That is what journalists experience. But ambulances, police cars, etc. are symbols of state authority and get attacked on purpose by Islamists who want to demonstrate that they run the neighborhood.

      Peter Akuleyev

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • Exactly. Muslims (believers not closet atheists) simply consider themselves as superior. The Koran says so. The People of the Book are inferior of course, but if they acknowledge their inferior status and conduct themselves in accordance with their status, they are at least allow to exist. But the Muslims must be the clear leaders.

        Now in Sweden, the Muslims find themselves as a powerless minority. The believers among them try to take over neighbourhoods, where they don’t have to keep seeing reminders that they’re not top dogs.

        In particular, as you point out, no one is less welcome than white police. Hence the grenades thrown at police.

        Frau Katze

        April 20, 2018 at EDT am

  6. Us too. Did you hear about the “police brutality” case up in Harvard?

    A Ghanaian Harvard Law student was subdued by the cops after he disrobed publicly and stood in traffic. He resisted arrest violently. This is the latest cause du jour, taking the place of the Sbux atrocity.

    gothamette

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • We will never hear the end of this. The Black Harvard Law students are all up in arms. The guy will probably sue and win big bucks.

      Apparently he was on drugs and spitting at EMT and police.

      You can hear him freaking out when they take him down.

      http://www.wcvb.com/article/police-naked-harvard-student-arrested-for-indecent-exposure-assault/19819268

      I’m sure if LotBS stripped nekkid and stood in the road he would just get friendly waves. No one would call the police because of all that White Privilege.

      Rosenmops

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “We will never hear the end of this.”

        Tell me about it. They have zero shame now. In the past they played their violins for people who conceivably, if you were sufficiently soft in the head, might be pitiable. Now it’s just, “We’re black and we can do what we goddamn please.”

        “I’m sure if LotBS stripped nekkid and stood in the road he would just get friendly waves. No one would call the police because of all that White Privilege.”

        Not to mention Circumcision Privilege.

        gothamette

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. Apparently the Danes are making fun of the Swedes for not getting their shit together. The Danes cracked down hard on immigration. But they now are 10% Muslim, so we’ll see where that goes.

    gothamette

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Sweden…just slower.

      jjbees

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I fear you’re right. Once the Muslims get a beachhead, it’s curtains.

        gothamette

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

  8. People are disgusted by the alt-right because it is comprised of proles, but there is only hope in the proles now.

    jjbees

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • That’s always a losing proposition, and it also essentially reflects the hierarchy flattening values of communism. The Right needs a smarter (than average) hierarchy to take firm control or it will go exactly nowhere.

      Dorian

      April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

  9. This is news to you? From my (Islamophobic) sources I’ve reading about this for years.

    But this article does make it sound worse than the earlier allegedly Islamophobic reports. Car burnings sound like they are at French levels (ie, always at least one every day).

    Attacking police with grenades also seems relatively recent.

    France is cracking down on buying gas for anything but filling up your car on site.

    Here in BC an enormous influx of Chinese (legal immigrants) has caused some problems like extremely expensive housing and many many Chinese in STEM fields at universities. But they don’t seem be particularly violent, There are gangs but they stick to killing each other.

    Plus the sheer volume makes some people feel uneasy. At least amongst those old enough to remember the distant past, say the 1970’s.

    Several years ago a team of Swedes came to BC, because some of our top scoring kids in high school and university were immigrants.

    They were all positive that the poor showing of their Muslim immigrants relative to our immigrants must be that BC had a magic formula.

    They wouldn’t even consider that some immigrants are intrinsically different.

    In one forum I read, we get some Swedes (who know English) complaining bitterly about their insane government.

    Frau Katze

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Yup, if a white person wanders into a mall in one of the many large all Chinese parts of Vancouver (like Richmond, with all Chinese signage) they will ignore you at best, stare at you rudely or tell you to go away, at worst. They are not likely to throw a hand grenade at you.

      Rosenmops

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • What is “Islamophobic”?

      Dorian

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • People afraid of being killed by Islamic terrorists.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • It’s bigotry [irrational dislike] against muslims, which a very real thing. If you want to ban muslim immigration but not ban black immigration, then you have an irrational dislike of muslims.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

  10. They have imported a lot of Somalis to Sweden. Somalis (as well as Muslims and Africans in general) are bad news. But Somalis seem to be among the absolute worst.

    A few years ago Sweden sent a delegation to Vancouver, maybe to see why Vancouver had so many immigrants but didn’t have the no-go zone problem. The reason is, of course, that Vancouver has few Muslims. The Chinese and Sikhs certainly cause plenty of other types of problems, but not the type of violent no-go zones you get in Europe.

    Rosenmops

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

  11. My grandfather’s home town in Sicily is being overrun with African “refugees” that are causing a crime wave and lowering the rates of tourism. But the mayor there (who I know by his last name is a distant relative of mine) seems to think only of how much more the town can do for these people and how “shameful” it is that the town can barely afford to give decent burials to those who’ve died on the arriving boats. Not a word about what this does to the nature of Sicilian culture. I don’t get it. Is he being bribed by someone? Sicily won’t be Sicily much longer if this keeps up. I’d write to this man. But he doesn’t know me. I doubt I could get through to him.

    I’m not against these people being helped, of course. But helped and then sent back to their home country or any African country that will take them in. What’s taking place now is colonization by any other name.

    maryk

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • It’s quite interesting that North Africans don’t want Sub Saharan Africans who are far more dysfunctional and anti-civilizational. They pass them to Europeans who are high in empathy.

      Just remember, Muslims enslaved blacks before Europeans.

      JS

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • It’s the Jews maryk.

      gothamette

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • But what does Burlesconi say?

      Curle

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • ” Is he being bribed by someone?”

      It’s Sicily, what do you think? The sad story is that the mafia has played an instrumental role in bringing African “refugees” into the country. The mafia makes money off the “schleppers” who bring them in, makes (probably a lot of) money off the government funds that are supposed to go to refugees and uses some of the Africans as muscle. In the long run of course this is suicidal but mafia guys ain’t geniuses.

      Peter Akuleyev

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • OK, so Sicily is going to hell, and my own family is contributing to it’s downfall. After years of thinking my family was mob-free I find out one of us is colluding with La Cosa Nostra. Got it.

        Now I feel better.

        maryk

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • These migrants don’t want to stay in Sicily because it’s already a shit hole. They don’t even want to stay in northern italy.

        Magnavox

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Peter is right. In this case, it isn’t the Joos. Its the Italian mafia selling out their own mothers. They get paid by the government for ‘accomodations.’

        https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/community/2017/08/01/the-real-migrant-crime-wave-mafia-exploitation-of-migrants-in-sicily

        Dan

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Well that’s the whole immivasion problem in a nutshell. It’s a prisoners dilemma where a substantial number of individuals get short-term wealth and power in exchange for pursuing policies which are long-term disastrous for the group as a whole.

        If you could push a button and (1) 5 third-world refugees would be admitted to the US; and (2) you would privately receive $1,000,000, would you do it? I think most people would. Even a lot of conservatives would think “The country is going to hell anyway, 5 additional refugees won’t make a difference, and with a million dollars, I could move somewhere nice with my family and forget about all this.” But that’s the kind of thinking that got us all into the mess we are in.

        fortaleza84

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Anyone has a breaking point. I’m not marrying my Tajik’s relative for $50,000 that I’m being offered, but I would do it for $1,000,000. That’s not the market price and nobody is offering it to me, though. Would I let in a 1,000,000 immigrants for that price? No way! So how many for a $1,000,000? More than one, buy not a whole lot more. I dunno. This is a lot of money. I mean, who isn’t gonna let in a few wetbacks for a million?

        Yakov

        April 20, 2018 at EDT pm

  12. I did some recent analysis and discovered that, with the exception of Ireland and Iceland, Denmark is the country in Western Europe with the lowest proportion of Third World immigrants, and Sweden is the country with the highest. Not only does Denmark have one of the lowest, but it also recently elected an anti immigration party and passed a law that says that Danes nust never become a minority in their own country, so the future looks bright for Denmark. It will be interesting to see how the fortunes of these 2 neighboring countries pan out in the coming decades.

    DataExplorer

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Screw the Swedes, Norwegian blonde are hotter anyway as the faces are less circular. I feel bad for the 49% of swedes who are agains that shit.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Sweden has more strictly Nordic stock. Norway has more Nordicized Celt stock, similar to the Netherlands, Northwest Germany, and Northern Belgium.

        Dorian

        April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

    • There’s one historic thing about Sweden that might explain some of it. It did not participate in either World War. They sold iron ore to Hitler.

      Denmark and Norway were both invaded. The Norwegians in particular had a bad time of it. The Germans were wanting to get hold of a stockpile of heavy water (the hydrogen is an unusual isotope called deuterium). It’s was being used in the early research into radioactivity. Before the war started scientists had advanced to realizing that an atomic bomb was possible. Everyone was worried about the Nazis getting one. So the heavy water was important. Norwegian saboteurs plus some support by sea with Britain stood in the way.

      More here,

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_heavy_water_sabotage

      Anyway when the Nazis lost they used scorched earth tactics as they retreated. They were highly unpopular.

      By the of the war much Europe was a wreck. But Sweden was doing nicely. They didn’t need “guest workers” to help rebuild because they didn’t them. They were still prosperous and remained so.

      Maybe some Swedes feel guilty, even though very few alive today could have participated in WW II. They’d have to very old.

      Frau Katze

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

      • They made a movie about it. The Heroes of Telemark.

        Re: Sweden, I have met many, and a more insufferable bunch of lib-cucks you never met in your life. Always with the smirk and the lectures about American racism. (Think Gunnar Myrdal. Well, soon we will have “A Swedish Dilemma.”)

        Danes are way different. They are frankly elitist and semi-openly racist. ZFsG.

        Never met a Norwegian. Only met one Icelander.

        gothamette

        April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • It won’t require a Nostradamus to make some decent predictions on that.

      Mike Street Station

      April 19, 2018 at EDT am

  13. Newsflash. The nanny was convicted.

    gothamette

    April 18, 2018 at EDT pm

  14. I was at a business conference yesterday in Europe, and all I heard was executives and consultants complaining about desperate the labor shortage across Europe and how stupid and short-sighted places like Hungary and Czech Republic are for not letting in immigrants. Greed is an amazing thing. The obvious answer would be cut social benefits and welfare, and I’m sure most companies would suddenly discover a large pool of local workers, even if they have to get paid 2 or 3 Euros more an hour than they do now. Instead everyone wants to compete with China by becoming China and running sweat shops filled with Somalis and Afghanis.

    Peter Akuleyev

    April 19, 2018 at EDT am

  15. “Ban Immigration-Critical Parties to Stop Genocide, Sweden Told”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/19/ban-immigration-critical-parties-stop-genocide-sweden-told/

    DataExplorer

    April 19, 2018 at EDT am

  16. I briefly met a young Swedish girl; an exchange student who is about 20.

    Beautiful, smart, friendly, hard-working, INNOCENT.

    If she is at all representative of the native stock who are having cultural enrichment foisted upon them by the millions. . .tragedy and evil beyond words.

    fakeemail

    April 19, 2018 at EDT am

    • Ask her about her views on immigration and multiculturalism, I’ll bet she’s not nearly as innocuous as she seems.

      Roli

      April 19, 2018 at EDT pm

  17. It’s ironic that Sweden of all countries would be so welcoming of Muslims. They had the most advanced gender roles. For example they had no sexual double standard, no matter how many guys a woman slept with no one called her a slut. Now they brought in the Muslims and they are changing all this with their male dominant culture. This explains why Muslim men rape at alarming numbers.

    Jay Fink

    April 20, 2018 at EDT am

    • Like Magna had said: there is no universal definition of rape. Is raping and INNOCENT (lol!) Swedish slut a rape? In whose book? Not in Magna’s it seems.

      Yakov

      April 20, 2018 at EDT am


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