Lion of the Blogosphere

Analysis of the Ellen K. Pao tweet

Clearly the tone of the tweet is that it’s outrageous that tech CEO’s have “incels” working at their companies, and they aren’t doing anything about it.

But what does K. Pao expect the CEO’s to do? One interpretation is that they can create programs to help their celibate employees get laid. But does anyone seriously think that’s what she means? Nope, it’s clear that she means the “incels” should be fired.

But what does she think an “incel” is? I have always assumed that it’s just shorthand for “involuntarily celibate” and applies to any male who isn’t having sex because he can’t find a girl who wants to have sex with him. Under this definition of “incel,” the CEO’s should devise some way to figure who among their male employees are not having sex with women despite not being gay or true-believing fundamentalist Christians, and fire them.

However, the fake-news media has been using the term “incel” more specifically to mean males who complain about the problem on the internet. Under this more narrow definition of “incel,” she wants CEOs to monitor employees’ internet usage, even when they aren’t at work, and if they ever write anything anywhere on the internet about being “incel,” then they should be fired.

The latter explanation is actually more likely what she means, but it’s still pretty chilling and Nazi-like that big corporations should police everything their employees do in private when they aren’t at work, and destroy their careers if they ever express “incorrect” political opinions, or simply confess the wrong information about their private sex lives.

I would say that the SJW-left correctly realizes they can crack down on all dissenting opinion with a crackdown on anonymous internet posting and the career destruction of anyone caught writing the “wrong” things. This is the McCarthyist communist purges on steroids.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 4, 2018 at EST am

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  1. So because of Elliot Rodger and that dude in Toronto, sexless dweebs should have their civil liberties violated. Swell. Imagine being a virgin and being denied employment in addition to pussy. There’d be no reason to live.

    Brendan

    May 4, 2018 at EST am

    • But a lot of reason to go out blazing.

      sestamibi

      May 4, 2018 at EST am

      • lol

        chris

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • How about looking at this way. Throughout history men have always been expendable and before the Industrial Revolution this culling happened via war, conflict, slavery. But in the post-WWII West with no large scale violence happening anywhere for decades, no slavery, and feminism having taking over everything, men are culled via the sexual marketplace. In other words, one way or another, wars or no wars, slavery or no slavery, lots of men are guaranteed to never marry and reproduce.

      Andrew E.

      May 4, 2018 at EST am

      • Why lots of men? Unless you are talking about China where they killed off a lot of female babies.

        playalongmusic

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • O, that’s so so sad!

        Men don’t reproduce because many of us have little interest in it. Our genitals achieve 100-percent utilization upon busting a nut.

        Women also want to achieve 100-precent genital utilization, so that means getting pregnant and pushing out a baby. Women reproduce more because they WANT it more, duh, Occam’s razor and all the et cetera.

        hard9bf

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • This isn’t actually true. Outside of the tropics, a woman needs a man to survive and bear and raise a child. A woman can’t hunt or farm herself outside of the tropics and get enough calories to survive and have kids.

        Currently, following the Industrial Revolution and technical developments, there’s such a surplus of wealth that this kind of feminism can be tolerated. It’s like we’re back in the tropical rainforests of our ancestors where food just grows constantly year round and you can survive by just picking something off of a tree or the ground and thus where women don’t need men to survive. But of course we’re not actually back in the tropics, but in an artificial environment that needs men, so this can’t go on indefinitely.

        Tom

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Women don’t need man to survive? who is going to build the houses, maintain all the important infrastructure like water, electricity, trains and sewage? If men don’t go to work the country collapse in one week and you are back to the stone age, if women don’t go to work nothing serious is going to happen. They are still very dependent on men.

        Hashed

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • > where women don’t need men to survive

        I just commented elsewhere that I think this is really a two way street. Your bachelor lifestyle was going to be materially more uncomfortable than being married to a reasonably intelligent woman (no matter her looks or charm) until very recently. Whole Foods wasn’t down the street.

        bobbybobbob

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Relevant Shakespearean bit: http://shakespeare.mit.edu/two_gentlemen/two_gentlemen.3.1.html

        Guys talking about an ugly dumb chick who’s a bit slutty, but then weighing that against the fact that she can brew great beer and is strong as an ox and great at sewing. It’s a tough call.

        bobbybobbob

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • Not exactly, because of Elliot Rodger and that dude in Toronto, a certain type of women are feeling emboldened to now call for the absolute destruction of any man deemed unworthy which is roughly 90% of the general male population (which includes me now that I think of it!) and 50% of the male criminal population. This particular type woman is using tragedies to unleash her inherent vicious cruelty against the harmless and the banal (yikes, that’s me!!!). She knows exactly what incel means and who they are.
      None of this is new, for a significant % of the female population, if you are a man not blessed with height, attractiveness or low impulse control, it would be better if you just died lest they run the risk you might befoul their transcendent beauty by gazing upon them (this includes the morbidly obese if you weren’t sure).
      They loathe you, they always have, if you are unable or unwilling to cause carnage you are nothing, less than nothing. Sadly, this will affect that % of woman who are not vicious and cruel by habit.
      The gloves are coming off lads, the neo-dark ages are upon us, when will the first Whole Foods or upscale waffle house be shot up? When will rape become a political act?
      O but learn Game! that will save you for sure (does anyone have a course outline?). At the least could you show some compassion for the wretrches for once and stop holding doors for these harpies?

      EzE

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • I also wonder how anyone would know that unless the information were volunteered. Are the HR cunts going to ask that directly in an interview? The only one who ever got outed for that was Steve Carrell in “The 40-Year Old Virgin”, and that wasn’t in the context of a job application.

      sestamibi

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • I think it’s probably pretty obvious, gazing across the cubical farm, who is getting laid and who isn’t.

        Mike Street Station

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Any guy under 6 feet and isn’t married should go buy a wedding band to wear to work. The faux wedding band of the near future will be like the tie was. It’ll probably work out for the marginal cases as many women are attracted to married men.

        EzE

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

  2. Women typically only give thought to two types of men, super-attractive men and creepy, dangerous-seeming men. Harmless betas are mostly invisible to them, unless one particular harmless beta manages to combine friendship, luck, and a few good moves and gets into the head of that one particular woman.

    So when women hear the word “incel”, they don’t think “harmless beta on a long dry spell”, as men might. They think “creepy, dangerous man”.

    I’ve long thought that women don’t have a good grasp of how tough it is for a lot of young men out there, how asymmetric the dating world is for 20-something men and women. It doesn’t occur to them that dating is significantly tougher for the median 25-year-old man than the median 25-year-old woman. So surely a man who struggles to date is not anywhere close to the median, but a bizarre outlier.

    Wency

    May 4, 2018 at EST am

    • The only reason it would be more difficult for men is because they are being too picky, or they just want sex with no commitments.

      Rosenmops

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • You’re proving Wency’s point. One reason it’s more difficult for men is that women consider 80% of men below average in looks. Men, as the more numerate sex, see it as a 50-50 thing.

        http://archive.is/489UV

        (It’s interesting that OkCupid removed the original copy of that page yesterday. Is Ellen Pao’s campaign against incels bearing fruit?)

        Richard

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Richard alludes to one reason, which is really that a small number of men (“alphas”) play the field and get a lot of action. Which results in more men getting zero action, and the median woman at least seeing some interest, even if she’s disappointed in her inability to achieve a monogamous relationship with these alphas

        But the bigger reason:
        Men in their 20s have a much smaller pool of women they can date.

        Women in their 20s are targeted by men in their 30s, 40s, on up. Even for those not interested in older men, this dynamic takes their competition out of the dating pool.

        Meanwhile men in their 20s are socially/legally forbidden from targeting girls in their teens, and there are forces at work dampening the attraction between younger men and older women, such that it will never be nearly as common as the reverse.

        Wency

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Richard,
        I read he article you linked to.
        It says:

        “Site-wide, two-thirds of male messages go to the best-looking third of women. So basically, guys are fighting each other 2-for-1 for the absolute best-rated females, while plenty of potentially charming, even cute, girls go unwritten.
        The medical term for this is male pattern madness.”

        Rosenmops

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • That distribution doesn’t sound too uneven to me. And of course the male distribution is going to be skewed to the right. In what universe would more attractive women not get hit on more? Men are going to reach before they settle.

        The fact is that men send out a lot of messages on these sites, women send out almost none, especially young women. So the median 20-something woman is still getting plenty of messages, perhaps more than she can respond to. The median 20-something man is getting very few, perhaps zero, and very few responses to the many messages he does send out. He has to play a numbers game and hope to catch lightning in a bottle.

        It’s true that some men do have too high of standards, but at the end of the day, if all men in their 20s had zero standards, there would still be plenty of incel men in that age range, because there aren’t enough women in their 20s to go around.

        Wency

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Rosenmops

        That’s just spamming behavior on a website – in the real world women misunderstanding what they see so badly as to perceive 80% of men “below average” is going to have a lot more effect on social interplay.

        Richard

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • (Note to Leon. Post this comment instead of the other one. Thanks)
        **
        The only reason it would be more difficult for men is because they are being too picky, or they just want sex with no commitments.

        You say men are too picky. Some probably are. But “picky” isn’t most guy’s problem. There are a lot of guys for whom the primary requirement is merely for the woman to have a pulse.

        As for sex without commitment, that’s a little more tricky. Some guys are like that. But there are plenty of guys with oneitis too. But most women are turned off by men with oneitis. Those are the kind of guys that women laugh at, take advantage of and call creepy. So most men learn not to be that way.

        ““Site-wide, two-thirds of male messages go to the best-looking third of women. So basically, guys are fighting each other 2-for-1 for the absolute best-rated females, while plenty of potentially charming, even cute, girls go unwritten.”

        Of course, men are going to give beautiful women more attention. But I disagree with your implication that “plenty of potentially charming, even cute, girls go unwritten”. Even if some women feel that way, the average girl/young woman still gets a lot more dating opportunities than the average guy does. So much so that most average girls wouldn’t even consider dating an average guy. When we say that the top 20% of guys are dating 80% of the women, we’re not exaggerating. The situation is so lop-sided that an average woman who marries an average guy feels like she “settled” because she didn’t end up with the kind of guy she was used to dating. Women don’t see it this way because they’re perspective is skewed. As the dating stats show, women consider 80% of guys to be below average. Dating stats do NOT show men with a similarly skewed perspective towards women. Yeah, more men will hit on a beautiful woman. But they’re under no delusions that most women are sub-par or “beneath” them the way women are about men.

        destructure

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • “and there are forces at work dampening the attraction between younger men and older women, such that it will never be nearly as common as the reverse.”

        Yeah, those forces are called Biology. Old female flesh is disgusting.

        WangHu?

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

  3. Ellen “Kung” Pao chicken. Eat it.

    Forbidden Thoughts

    May 4, 2018 at EST am

    • “Ellen “Kung” Pao chicken. Eat it.”

      Greasy and MSG-laden prole food, no thanks!

      • “Greasy” simply means that the food is fatty. Fat is a vehicle for flavor. Greasy is just a negative way of saying fatty or even “rich”.

        MSG is a flavor enhancer which makes food more savory. You don’t know it’s in something unless you’re told so.

        Thorfinnsson

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

  4. The SJW left would gladly send dissenters to concentration camps if they had the power to do so.

    Oswald Spengler

    May 4, 2018 at EST am

    • Of course they would. Re-education Gulags.

      Rosenmops

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

  5. Honestly, I think we would largely get rid of our problems between the sexes if we brought back strict rules on dating and marriage. Sure, you couldn’t have sex until you were married, but does anyone think that is more preferable today than women screwing only alphas and always on the fear of getting used, then dumped my men, which causes them to start claiming rape for the smallest infractions?

    Our dysfunction today is from baby boomers who thought their elders imposed these archaic rules because they were squares. We now see they had good reasons for those rules.

    Redpillaspie

    May 4, 2018 at EST am

    • As I get older, I’m more and more surprised that my grandparents were right on things that I used to think they were hopeless wrong about.

      Mike Street Station

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • As the son of Baby Boomer parents, as I get older I discover more and more things that my grandparents were right about, and more and more things that my parents were totally wrong about.

        Kyo

        May 7, 2018 at EST pm

  6. I keep telling you mates to function on your own level, but you just don’t wanna listen. Check this out. Yesterday I was working by a Jewish lawyer. Now, this guy is out of shape and ugly, his wife is overweight and ugly, his kids are all pretty ordinary to ugly, BUT he is married on his level, his is very smart, his wife is very smart and his kids are very smart. Got a very nice house, a table set with china and silverware waiting for him to when he comes home and a happy family. This guy and his wife are functioning on their level.

    Now Lion is very stupid, instead of having his mother set him up with a Jewish girl on his level to make him gefiltefish, he is gone on a shopping spree for sexbots. Tell me if he isn’t stupid?

    Yakov

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • I don’t understand the obsession with attractive women. Most women aren’t attractive so you’re already setting yourself up for failure by narrowing possible mates down to a small fraction of society, that by virtue of being attractive can already be insanely demanding and picky.

      I would 1,000 times rather interact with a smart, funny, ugly person than a beautiful person with a nasty personality. The talmud says the best tasting wine comes in the ugliest containers.

      toomanymice

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • ” The talmud says the best tasting wine comes in the ugliest containers.”

        I wouldn’t trust Orthodox Jews to be wine experts. They drink Manischewitz, the worst wine ever created in human history.

      • I interact with the public a lot and it might surprise you but more often than not it’s the unattractive women who have nasty personalities.

        Jay Fink

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • “You should try to date and marry women who are nice and/or smart even if they are ugly” is very good, very logical advice that is obvious to people over 30 or 40. But when you are young and under the influence of hormones and peer pressure and the media, chasing women who aren’t good-looking feels like an admission of defeat or something.

        Gozo

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Lion, don’t make me laugh now. Manishewitz is horrible, cheap and isn’t used by the orthodox, but by the traditional Jews, who don’t have access to proper kosher wine stores. I don’t know anybody, who would drink it. Out of nostalgia I buy their blueberry wine, but that’s it.

        Yakov

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Beautiful and ugly are the extremes. Most people are average so there is no problem.

        Yakov

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • lion, manischewitz didn’t exist when the talmud was codified.

        toomanymice

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • I only use the Manischewitz to make charoses at Passover. Lion, you should know there are far better kosher wines out there from Hagafen and Baron Herzog.

        sestamibi

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • And the Talmud scholars lived in areas were making wine was common practice unlike the Ashkenazi orthodox from east Europe which had to make wine for religious reasons and probably drank vodka when they just wanted to get drunk.

        Hashed

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • ” The Talmud says the best tasting wine comes in the ugliest containers.”
        Let’s put this Talmudic saying into its proper context.

        Nedarim 50b
        The William Davidson Talmud

        The daughter of the emperor said to Rabbi Yehoshua ben Ḥananya: You are the epitome of magnificent Torah, but it is stored in an ugly vessel, as Rabbi Yehoshua ben Ḥananya was an unattractive man. He said to her: You may learn the answer to your statement from your father’s house. In what container do you place wine? She said to him: In earthenware vessels. He said to her: Is it conceivable that everyone stores their wine in earthenware vessels, and you also store it in earthenware vessels? Is there no distinction between the emperor and ordinary people? You should place your wine in vessels of silver and gold. She went and placed the wine in vessels of silver and gold, and it spoiled. Rabbi Yehoshua said to her: The same is also true of the Torah. It spoils if it is contained in a handsome person. She asked him: But are there not people who are both good looking and learned in Torah? He said to her: If they were ugly they would be even more learned.’

        So as we can see the original passage relates to the Talmudic scholarship, not to female beauty. There are other saying regarding it, but this just isn’t it.

        Yakov

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • A verse in the proverbs says:

        As a jewel of gold in a swine’s snout, so is a fair woman which is without discretion.

        Meaning to say that her beauty brings into sharper contrast her low human qualities.

        Yakov

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

    • Yakov, I think you just killed this blog.

      njguy73

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Agreed. This is up there with the best of TUJ and Otis.

        Horace Pinker

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • I disagree. I would rather be alone all my life than be married to an ugly woman.

      Jay Fink

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Most European or Mideastern women aren’t ugly.

        Yakov

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Well there you are.

        Rosenmops

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • so what happens when she ages and loses her beauty? even the most beautiful women lose it to some degree with age. the majority of attractive women lose it fast before even middle age! Perhaps you guys should join ISIS or FLDS.

        toomanymice

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • @toomanymice…I don’t understand the connection between not wanting a physically ugly woman and joining ISIS. I am as anti-ISIS as anyone. They want to cover up women and make them sexually invisible…That’s the extreme opposite of what I desire.

        Jay Fink

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • The problem is a spouse is just a lot less of a compelling business proposition in our modern world. Even 30 years ago it was difficult to live comfortably without a wife, while holding down a decent job that required a lot of hours. Running a household and getting decent food and preparing it well was not a trivial job. Now we have appliances and grocery stores and apps that make it trivially easy. That would-be wife can get a job and afford a comfortable lifestyle rather easily herself — she don’t need no man. Spouses have been automated out of necessity, lowering the market value of everyone.

        The insane family courts and divorce rape just compound the problem manyfold. Now not only is a spouse way less useful than in the past, but a critically serious threat to a comfortable retirement. This is the exact opposite of the historical norm, where a couple kids who did OK were your ultimate retirement plan.

        bobbybobbob

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • @toomanymice, this is something women can’t understand. Having a wife who is post-wall, but who had that youthful cuteness and sexiness when you first got together, and with whom you got to enjoy a few years of that youthful passion, is totally different from marrying a woman who is just plain ugly or who was already post-wall by the time you first met her. You’re conflating them both as “having a wife who is not physically attractive” and considering them the same thing when they’re not.

        Hermes

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • Yakov knows what’s up. He is one of the most insightful commenters on this blog, and he is completely correct here. Contentment is the root of happiness.

    • It you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife.

      — Joseph Royster, Carmella Guida and Frank Guida

      ScarletNumber

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • guidaguida! Maryk my little lovemuffin, this comment was obviously for you!

        driveallnight

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Driveallnight, when I saw two “guidas” my first thought was “Oh, my God, I’m really gonna hear it now!” But please don’t call me any lovey-dovey pet names. It doesn’t bother me, but it’s making you look like you need to take your meds.

        maryk

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • 10-4 sugarbutt

        driveallnight

        May 7, 2018 at EST am

    • Easier said than done.

      Most men are in denial of what their level is. It’s a bitter pill to accept who you are when your dreams don’t come true.

      fakeemail

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

  7. “I would say that the SJW-left correctly realizes they can crack down on all dissenting opinion with a crackdown on anonymous internet posting and the career destruction of anyone caught writing the “wrong” things. This is the McCarthyist communist purges on steroids.”

    It is impossible to crack down on all dissenting opinion. The truth gets out. Also, the truth is a great defense.

    The big thing for people if ‘caught’ for wrongthink is never apologize. Don’t go around using the n-word but don’t shy away from uncomfortable truth.

    Many times self-censorship is much worse than actual censorship.

    Dan

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • “Also, the truth is a great defense.”

      Truth didn’t prevent people from being burned at the stake for being witches and other nonsense.

  8. Chairman Pao is just projecting here.

    She herself is an incel as her husband is a gay black man (seriously), and she was fired from a tech company.

    Thorfinnsson

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • She’s voluntarily celibate. There’s always some beta male who’d do her, but she hates men too much.

      • She’s probably a lesbian, right? I mean she looks and acts like a lesbian. I always assumed she was just a lesbian who was in denial or just too career focused to fully embrace being a lesbian. A lot of professional women who are lesbian look and act like her. They have that masculine jaw and aggressive demeanor.

        Tom

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • I was making a joke about her ridiculous life.

        Doesn’t even have to be a beta male.

        Certainly no alpha male would commit to her (other than a homosexual financial fraudster in need of a beard), but plenty of players are willing to tap subpar pussy. Or you just get drunk and horny and she’s there so who cares. At least she isn’t fat.

        I do agree that not only is she a man hater, but she probably also hates fun.

        Thorfinnsson

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Ellen Pao is unequivocally physically repulsive. She looks like an ugly yellow boy with long hair recovering from anorexia and the flu. Combined with her extremism, I’m unsure as to how “voluntary” that voluntary celibacy actually is. That beta male would have to be an impressive specimen of his social type to rationalize wanting to see that naked.

        Dorian

        May 6, 2018 at EST pm

    • I started a go fund me page to finance having sex with her. Please donate. I know how to handle these types.

      Asian persuasion

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

  9. This is what the facebook dating feature is for. White men and women will be somehow always paired with a non-white and those not using facebook will shut out of society. China has its social credit system and the US has all the pieces in place, but no unifying system. Facebook would be that system.
    Also the new trend in media is to make the man stupid but not a fat retard like Homer or Peter Griffin. Watch the new Lost in Space on Netflix. Now the father is a dumb boy toy for the all wise and knowing matriarch.

    Gigachad

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • “Also the new trend in media is to make the man stupid but not a fat retard like Homer or Peter Griffin. Watch the new Lost in Space on Netflix. Now the father is a dumb boy toy for the all wise and knowing matriarch.”

      I haven’t watched, but it makes sense, make the men believably incompetent rather than a parody of incompetence, right?

      • I think it is more as total female wish fulfillment. A dangerous and attractive bad boy who bends to the females every whim. I don’t think it has anything to do with making the men believably incompetent. You should watch the new Lost in Space and review it. It is only 10 episodes.

        @Rosenmops
        Nobody is going to marry the average American fatty other than thirsty men with no standards. American women are cancer. Here in the Midwest they are all fat and act very entitled because they have a monopoly on their gross, fat pussies and the losers here lap it up. American is an irredeemable nation of white knights. If you want social stability then every guy is entitled to a thin gf. Don’t complain when some guy cuts your throat for fun because that is how he proves he is alpha to get laid. Incels are the last hope of men everywhere and let us all hope they realize it because normies sure as hell won’t do a damn thing about anything except wonder when sportsball is on.

        Gigachad

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Gigachad wrote:
        “Nobody is going to marry the average American fatty other than thirsty men with no standards. American women are cancer”

        This is the type of thinking that makes me lose sympathy for incels.

        Rosenmops

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • “because they have a monopoly on their gross, fat pussies and the losers here lap it up.“

        The ‘losers’ choose not to go home alone. Probably because the fat p***** is alleged to feel remarkably similar to the skinny ones.

        Curle

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • American women are cancer, though, sadly.
        This has more to do with feminism & the cultural context in which they fit, but it’s an accurate description. American men are not much better. But American men, by and large, are doing the job of keeping the broken husk of America limping along. Women are actively killing it by not having children, working a job instead of taking care of children, and happily voting for more immigration to further balkanize the country.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Rosenmops could save himself a lot of trouble by simply stating “let them eat cake”. Of course it’s easy to call someone a loser from the comfort of their own home and propose solutions that are untenable.

        Do you really think fucking a fatty will make incels or beta men happy? You really that dense bro? How about you try eating shit for a week, I hear it’s nutritious.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • Midwestern women! Best women in the country. So hot when they’re young, then they drink a lot of beer, eat a lot of cheese curds, have a lot of kids and sure they get fat but they know how to have fun! You sound like a sad case.

        Two in the Bush

        May 6, 2018 at EST pm

      • The women are fat and annoying and actively leftist because they can afford to be. Follow the money. It comes from taxes paid by men, and alimony.

        The only solution is to deny women the vote.

        There’s a lot of fixation on race in the blogosphere, but in my day to day life I have to say I have no race problems for months at a time, while I almost daily have fat annoying cunt problems.

        bobbybobbob

        May 7, 2018 at EST am

    • I started watching the new Lost in Space but I couldn’t take it anymore. Ditto to what you wrote, and that matriarch is one of the most obnoxious harridans I have ever seen.

      markus

      May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • Holy shit. Now THAT is terrifying. That basically constitutes the eradication of political and social freedom.

      I’ve actually been a victim of a very bad social atmosphere in a Facebook group that I needed to belong to for academic purposes.

      It eventually caused a 4 year work and school catastrophe that was exceedingly difficult to work out of. Social mobs of strangers can wreak havoc for no reason other than an emotional wave that spreads. If ONE person decides they dislike you. Mob social ostracization is somewhat like being figuratively murdered. Its hard to explain unless you go through it. I’m no longer on Facebook and I’m not going back.

      I’d recommend investing in the anxiety reduction pharmaceutical business in China. It’s will likely take off after this.

      Dorian

      May 6, 2018 at EST pm

  10. If the concern is based on the possibility of terrorism, then why not fire Muslim employees and PETA members, like that Iranian girl who shot up YouTube?

    Dave Pinsen

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • Correct, after a terrorist attack by Muslims, one could write; “CEOs of big tech companies: You almost certainly have Muslims as employees. What are you going to do about it?”

      • We’re going to demonize heterosexual white working class men in flyover country, because after all, they’re the real threat to life and limb.

        Oswald Spengler

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Don’t be ridiculous. We all know that incelism is a philosophy of peace and that this tiny minority of extremists doesn’t represent the majority of incels and is in fact not even incel at all.

        Hermes

        May 4, 2018 at EST pm

      • Lion, you almost certainly have incel commenters here. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?

        driveallnight

        May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • I wish I could do something to help them get laid, but I don’t know how to do that, so I’m not going to be able to do anything for them, unfortunately.

      • Ellen Pao’s comment wasn’t anything more than simmering butt-hurt over Reddit bubbling to the surface for an opportunistic back-hand.

        Dorian

        May 6, 2018 at EST pm

  11. But what does K. Pao expect the CEO’s to do?

    MEH 0910

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

  12. The attitude of a lot of the men on this blog toward women is getting so bizarre that I’m beginning to think I’m reaching the end of my LOTB days How many times can you hear men complain of not getting “pussy?” And talk only about the mammalian aspects of reproduction (“popping out babies”) It’s hard to know how to respond to men who seem to think that if they found their dream woman and married her at age 25 they’d be content once her looks start to slip as she passes 30. As for children, I really think a lot of the men here wold be happy if women just raised children on their own after being impregnated by sperm donors, while most men just had casual sex with lots of women It doesn’t occur to them that we already have communities where people live like this – they’re called inner city ghettos. And the results aren’t pretty.

    I try to be sympathetic. The sexual revolution and feminism wrecked life for both women AND men. I’ve never been a feminist or a man-hater. But for how long can you listen to men pretend that most women in their 20’s are chasing after super-rich and super good-looking men when we all know that more women than men are interested in commitment and more men than women view sex as important in life? And totally mind-boggling is the idea that women, when unable to attract wealthy and good-looking men, search for “bad boy” types. The men then have the perfect excuse for why they can’t find a woman – they aren’t at either extreme.

    I guess I shouldn’t blame the men of LOTB. They’re victims of a society obsessed with sex, and one that increasingly devalues the institution of the family. But you’d think they’d be embarrassed to so often sound like the stereotype of 14 year old boys.

    maryk

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • You can’t leave lotb maryk! What about us?? Our love is like a fairytale penned by idiots

      driveallnight

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Glad to know you’d miss my presence here, but we don’t have any “love.” We don’t even have “a love-hate relationship” (although it might be said that JS and I have this.) But I’m wondering, does all this flattery mean that you’re after something? Since I’m in my 50’s, you obviously aren’t after sex.

        maryk

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

    • That’s an interesting take. I hadn’t considered how those constant digs over time effect a woman’s enjoyment of this and other right leaning blogs. As a general rule, as soon as I hear the word misogyny, I tune right out because it sounds as if some leftist haranguing is on the way. However there are lots of comments here (and not just here obviously) that could be considered real misogyny.

      Some of it even bugs me. Particularly the comments against marriage. The idea that a guy is better off not marrying because feminist dominated rape divorce courts entitled bitches fill in the blank or whatever, is missing the big picture. Life is long, if you’re lucky, and there is nothing sadder than some elderly person who is all alone, with no family to care for, or about them. We make fun of women who never married who turn into mentally ill cat ladies, but seldom mention that a similar dynamic happens in never married men as well. At the end of life, the fact that you managed to avoid divorce rape by staying single will mean nothing when you have no family who care or aware of you.

      For all of the imperfections of marriage, I have a contentment that I think is probably rare about never married men my age. Keep chasing perfection and die alone.

      Mike Street Station

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

      • Men die earlier. In the age brackets at the end of which you write women significantly outnumber men. All the articles I’ve read about “elder orphans” focus on them, and I have absolutely no sympathy for them. They were too busy pursuing “careers” to settle down and have kids, and now other women’s kids are expected to support them in their final years. Fuck that.

        sestamibi

        May 7, 2018 at EST am

    • i.e. like most women, any observation which puts women in a negative light is perceived by you as a mortal insult so you will exaggerate it to make it seem as unreasonable as possible.

      “I’ve never been a feminist or a man-hater”

      99.9% of Western women are feminists but just reject the label. It’s just difficult for women to accept that they are not equal to men; that society and its institutions are biased in favor of women; and that society would be better off if women had far fewer rights.

      fortaleza84

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • “It’s hard to know how to respond to men who seem to think that if they found their dream woman and married her at age 25 they’d be content once her looks start to slip as she passes 30.”

      a man who got to enjoy his wife’s youth would be far more content to spend old age with her than a man who never even got to have her youth (nor any other woman’s youth).

      chris

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • Exactly! These are my thoughts too. I wonder if having a vast selection of porn readily available has somehow warped there views of normal women.

      Rosenmops

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • MaryK you’ve proven yourself time and again out of touch on social issues so of course you wouldn’t know the average girl from the age of 14 to about 24 has probably 10-20 sexual partners of which a handful are one night stands or some type of short term bonding. When you consider her male counterpart has 0-2 during that same time frame if he is lucky, so you really have to ask why a man wouldn’t want to commit to a woman like this at the age of 25?

      Probably not though, you are a woman and so are incapable of fairness and logic.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • Please feel free to leave the blog, your inane regurgitated comments won’t be missed.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • “Please feel free to leave the blog”

        I don’t have to leave in order to make you comfortable in your illusions. Anyone who thinks that the average young women is tarting it up all the time while the average young man is sitting home alone unable to find a woman to be with is beyond any argument I could make.

        As for fairness, I’ve shown more than once on this blog that I believe many women are hypocritical and want it both ways in life. And I do think that in some ways modern society is unfair to men.

        maryk

        May 7, 2018 at EST am

    • A lot of us appreciate your contributions (like this very comment) to the blog, maryk, and hope you don’t leave.

      Gozo

      May 5, 2018 at EST pm

    • Men without religion are dogs. Where are you gonna go?

      Yakov

      May 5, 2018 at EST pm

    • “The men of LOTB”?

      Seriously? We rarely talk about women here.

      I’ve never seen anyone natter on about he merits of casual sex here, let alone the merits of the “bad boy” type.

      Did your rant require thee paragraphs? That’s a lot of frustration in regard to a seldom broached topic on this blog.

      Dorian

      May 6, 2018 at EST pm

      • You cant’ be serious! The men on this blog seldom talk about women? The failure of ordinary looking men to find women to give them sex is a major topic on this blog. As for the merits of casual sex, there would be no need for anyone to “natter on” about it. Sex is quick and pleasurable. Relationships, even if they are satisfying, take long-term effort and are risky.

        I didn’t “rant” about anything. If my posts are too long to interest you then don’t read them. It’s not like there’s some feminist-created law that’s forcing you.

        maryk

        May 7, 2018 at EST am

      • Jesus dude. More crazy emotion.

        I’ve been reading LOTB for a long time, and have been semi-regularly participating one here since that time. My participation has been mostly very consistent.

        I’ve read countless comments sections here, over a period of many years

        “The failure of ordinary looking men to find women to give them sex is a major topic on this blog”

        Not only is that not a “major” topic, I don’t remember discussing it. Perhaps there have been a couple of dating related off hand posts, or comments in the comments sections, but those are exceedingly intermittent.

        You comment like you are new here and what you claim is what you think goes on here, just to be able to slam it. The reality is your claim is more than bizarre.

        Is sex pleasurable? Thanks for the information.

        Your prior comment implied that we natter on here about casual sex. Here:

        “How many times can you hear men complain of not getting “pussy?”

        and here:

        ” As for children, I really think a lot of the men here wold be happy if women just raised children on their own after being impregnated by sperm donors, while most men just had casual sex with lots of women”

        and here:

        “But for how long can you listen to men pretend that most women in their 20’s are chasing after super-rich and super good-looking men”

        and here:

        “But you’d think they’d be embarrassed to so often sound like the stereotype of 14 year old boys”.

        So what is your point? to inform me about the pleasures of sex? Really, its to argue over nothing. Stop wasting my time.

        Oh, shit, yeah, I have to watch out for those “feminist created laws” being such a “victim” and all. Because in your bizarre head, everyone here is obsessed with sex, feminism, MGTOW topics, and causal sex. Which will be news to me and most here who come for the pop culture, economic, and political discussions.

        And your the revolutionary, rational “family oriented” person (man / woman?) who is going against the grain. I’m ten miles ahead of you, as are many here. In reality your views are more than rudimentary and self evident for anyone in these politics for any amount of time.

        Yeah, maybe you better be done with LOTB. It’s too MGTOW and causal sex oriented here. Gimma dat puss-a! Fuk da hoze! How was that?

        Don’t expect to come here and shit all over the participants while threatening to leave and not get a response. Now, as you so kindly threatened, perhaps you better fuck off.

        Dorian

        May 7, 2018 at EST pm

      • “Don’t expect to come here and shit all over the participants while threatening to leave and not get a response”

        I’m not sure that the comments I made constitute “shitting all over” anyone. I wasn’t criticizing everything that the men here say about male-female relationships. I do agree, for example, that men are often treated unfairly in child custody hearings. And I also think that society is too quick to believe any women who alleges she’s been raped by a man when there is no proof. I gave society’s devaluing of the institution of the family as the main reason why so many men don’t marry and have unrealistic expectations for what kind of wife they’ll be able to get.

        I apologize if you felt insulted by my comments.. I just wanted to provide an alternative viewpoint. If you examine our posts on this thread you’ll see that you are the one exhibiting crazy emotion. Probably because you’re viewing me as the feminist man-hater that I have never been.

        maryk

        May 7, 2018 at EST pm

  13. This scares the crap out of me.

    I’m an unattractive man. I’m working on it, but it will take some time. More than a year at the very least.

    I don’t blame others for my inability to get a date. There are consequences for allowing myself to fall this far, and I accept them.

    I don’t talk about my lack of a dating life at work, and I don’t let it affect my work.

    If anything, I know (through overhearing coworker conversations about me) that I’m pitied for my lack of a sex life. Believe me, you don’t ever want to hear someone talk about how they feel bad for you, or rattle off your painfully obvious shortcomings as reasons why you never seem to have any stories to tell come Monday morning. I guess it serves me right for eavesdropping.

    And you definitely don’t want to have a coworker pause to shoot you a sad look when they’re talking about their vacation with their new fiance at lunch with the rest of the work team.

    This “incel” concept making its way through public consciousness really frightens me. Now there’s a label, a series of assumptions, a stereotype out there for men who aren’t successful in the dating realm.

    I need this job to survive, and to fund my efforts at self-improvement. I’m terrified at the idea that I could lose it because of being lumped in with some really disturbed and violent individuals.

    terrified

    May 4, 2018 at EST pm

    • Sounds like a bunch of assholes to me, is your company big enough for a HR department? Would open discussions about a fellows lack of a sex life constitute a hostile work place? What kind of place is this anyway? Who talks about getting laid Monday morning at work these days? Why should that be accepted, sounds pathetic to me.
      Life is a melee man, fight. the fuck. back. but by the same token there must be zero fucks given, so there you go, a koan to think about. You’re welcome.

      EzE

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • Grow the fuck up. You sound pathetic.

      GondwanaMan

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • I don’t think you need to worry. This Pao woman is probably crazy.

      Rosenmops

      May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • If you’re not talking about your lack of a dating life, then you’re not talking about your dating life either. How can anyone know what you’re doing and how much you’re getting or not getting? If anyone asks, you can quite properly tell them that it’s none of their business. I really doubt you will lose your job for that.

      I was in your situation in my mid-40s too, and not only did they consider me a loser, but also a closet gay. When I started seeing someone seriously at age 45 I kept it secret as long as I possibly could. Only when we got married (and still married 21 years later) did I have to own up for health insurance and beneficiary reasons. That didn’t stop the snickering either: my colleagues all were wondering who would be desperate enough to marry HIM?

      A year later I lost that job in a big layoff, but the market was good and I got another one in another city where no one there knew me as anything other than K’s husband and D’s father. Good luck to you.

      sestamibi

      May 5, 2018 at EST pm

      • Your story is inspiring, thank you for sharing it.

        As far as how they could possibly know about my lack of a dating life – unfortunately I work somewhere where people overshare about their personal lives, and expect you to do the same. I’ve been asked point blank if I’m seeing anyone (this was in the middle of a deeply uncomfortable conversation around everyone’s weekend exploits), and stupidly answered no.

        Knowing what I do now, I should have just pretended I had a conference call to get to or something and excused myself from the conversation. Live and learn, etc.

        I don’t get snickering – its mostly just pity. People here are generally nice, they just share a whole lot more about their personal lives than I’m comfortable with in a work (or really any) setting.

        My fear is more than any man who is known to have trouble finding a date will get lumped in with these “incel” folks, and that niceness with a touch of (cringe-inducing) pity turns into hostility or suspicion.

        terrified

        May 8, 2018 at EST am

    • In spite of Ellen Pao’s Asian style extremism, you still have a robust legal system protecting your employment rights. In theory.

      I’m unsure as to what size business you work for, but in the end whether you are kept on will 99% have to do with your usefulness and how well your boss likes you. If you have those two things relatively under control, then you likely have little to worry about. If you are fired at some point, it is doubtful that it will have anything to do with other than one of those two things – with company budget being a possible third factor.

      This will pass.

      Dorian

      May 6, 2018 at EST pm

      • So far so good on the boss liking me and me being useful.

        I don’t have many obligations outside of work, so there isn’t much to distract me from getting things done right the first time. I spend my free time exercising and volunteering for now, and am looking to get into some more active hobbies as I get into better shape.

        Thank you for your kind words and encouragement.

        terrified

        May 8, 2018 at EST am

  14. As an “incel” myself, sometimes. in my darkest moments, I slip into their mindset. But reality always pulls me back. Incels are wrong about how the world works. In my workplace alone I have seen many examples of unattractive men having perfectly pleasant conversations with hot women, and even become close friends with them. Looks matter, sure. Hot girls won’t want to fuck you if you don’t have something to offer, that could be looks, it could be mad guitar skills, or could it be money, etc. But just because they won’t fuck you does not mean that they hate you. You can be perfectly good friends with a hot girl even if you have “nothing to offer”. Incels think that women hate them because they’re ugly. No. Women don’t hate them, it’s all in their heads.

    josh

    May 5, 2018 at EST am

    • As I learned from unpleasant experiences long ago, being “friends” with women is a frustrating dead end. The only purpose they can serve is providing entrée to any of their friends who might want something more from you. If they won’t provide this service, then it’s because they are embarrassed to do so and you are wasting your time even cultivating them.

      sestamibi

      May 7, 2018 at EST am

    • In my experience, hot girls have so many demands on their time that they won’t be “just friends” with a man unless they think they can get something out of him.

      fortaleza84

      May 7, 2018 at EST pm

    • The guitar thing actually works, as corny as it sounds. I’m a nerdy black guy and my only interaction with above-average looking white chicks before college came about because they knew I played the six-strings. Seriously, they would come up to me all the time just to strike up random conversation.

      Somehow I still never got laid, though.🤔

      GondwanaMan

      May 7, 2018 at EST pm

    • #1 rule of life: all relationships are transactional. People only want to hang out with other people of their social status or better, so as to maintain or improve their status. I’m that sense, high school never really ends.

      #2 rule of life: the vast majority of people aren’t thinking about you as much as you think (if at all). The guy who used to beat you up everyday in high school has probably long forgotten you ever existed.

      GondwanaMan

      May 7, 2018 at EST pm

  15. Ellen K Pow is not attractive, but there’s a man out there who desperate enough to disagree.

    JS

    May 6, 2018 at EST am

  16. “This is the McCarthyist communist purges on steroids”.

    A (Eur)Asian tendency toward ideological extremism that always departs from Western standards of a balanced legal system,

    plus an enabling ideologically corrupt media,

    plus a Western European tendency to prioritize social harmony (which was never supposed to be applied with outside groups),

    equals an encroaching oppressive communism (I use this term in a social context).

    Listening to continental Asian prescriptions on sociopolitics is like listening to a dynamite salesman talk about bridge engineering.

    Dorian

    May 6, 2018 at EST pm

  17. Yes I have just discovered that Incel like PUA (pick up artists) are considered as alt right communities attracting young males . So she didn’t go for the bachelor (that would be very PUA like), but against the burgeoning right, wich is normal for a liberal tech financier …

    Bruno

    June 3, 2018 at EST am


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