Lion of the Blogosphere

No, Islamic terrorism is NOT beta-male rage

Certain commenters have been trying to push the false narrative that Islamic terrorists are just beta-male ragers of a different religion.

Let’s look at the four Islamic terrorist attacks in the United States since 2010 with the biggest death tolls.

1. Orlando Nightclub Shooting. Omar Mateen was married twice and had a three-year-old son.

2. San Bernardino attack. Married couple, Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, with baby.

3. 2017 New York City Truck attack. Sayfullo Saipov was married with three children.

4. Boston Marathon Bombing. Tamerlan Tsarnaev was an alpha-male boxer, and had a pregnant wife.

Conclusion: Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with beta male rage, which is always perpetrated by incel men. All of these Islamic terrorists were family men, not incels. None of these men became terrorists because they hoped to lose their virginity with houris.

On the other hand, many non-Islamic attacks that the MSM calls terrorism have a strong beta-male rage component. For example, Dylann Roof, the perpetrator of the Charleston Church shooting, was a loser who never had a girlfriend.

Wade Michael Page, the perpetrator of the Sikh Temple Shooting, was a never-married loser. Unlike Islamic terrorists, White American terrorists are rarely family men.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 7, 2018 at 3:39 PM

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  1. So what is the motivation for Islamic terrorism – reward in the after life, or just blind belief in Islamic world domination?

    The lioncub

    May 7, 2018 at 3:57 PM

    • The muslim guys in the west who go aloha snackbar? They just get all discombobulated from living in an alien society they’re not built for. They’re supposed to be smoking shisha in the desert and listening to horrible music. It’s like when zoo animals snap and hurt themselves or their handlers.

      The beta rage guys have a different historical precedent: “running amok”. Orwell wrote about it in South East Asia. Some weird Malay guy would just lose it and start stabbing everybody, and this happened often enough there were procedures to deal with the situation.


      May 7, 2018 at 5:21 PM

  2. Elliott Rodger: jealous virgin
    Toronto driver: sexless dork
    Austin bomber: home-schooled dweeb
    Roof: incel Nazi
    Nikolas Cruz: bullied loner

    Conversely, the San Antonio church shooter was married twice. Similarly, the Vegas shooter was married and divorced twice.


    May 7, 2018 at 4:24 PM

  3. Counter-examples:
    Stephen Paddock, married twice (though with no children), had an Asian girlfriend.
    Jared Loughner, had had a girlfriend for several months in high school.
    James Holmes: had a girlfriend for a couple of months within a year of the shooting, often visited hookers.



    May 7, 2018 at 4:50 PM

    • Who’s calling any of those shootings beta male rage? We don’t know Paddocks motive, but as you say, he was married twice and had a girlfriend; thus almost by definition it wasn’t beta male rage. Loughner and Holmes were definitely mentally ill.


      May 7, 2018 at 5:35 PM

    • So I guess hookers aren’t the answer.


      May 7, 2018 at 5:41 PM

    • Yup, the Vegas shooter and the Texas shooter seemed pretty alpha to me, although the latter seemed very mentally unstable and violent.

      Loughner and Holmes were beta males who went full omega with the onset of mental illness.


      May 7, 2018 at 6:47 PM

      • Incel-ness can be hard to ascertain. Adam Lanza is a case in point. He almost certainly had never Done the Dirty Deed,* but he was so stark raving mental he may never have had any desires. Or he wanted sex but figured no woman would go near him, and was more or less resigned to his fate. Whatever the case, it probably would be unwarranted to call him an Incel, much less make that the motive for his rampage.

        * = he had a car and money, so there’s always the chance that he had patronized hookers



        May 7, 2018 at 8:40 PM

      • I think it came out recently that Adam Lanza had been on Internet forums discussing man-boy love and “children’s autonomy” over their bodies. Or some weird shit like that.


        May 7, 2018 at 11:44 PM

  4. You called the New Mexico school shooting a few months back beta-male rage (and I agreed) even though the shooter had a (controlling, Jesus-freak) girlfriend. I suggested that if she were instead Elliot Rodger’s gf, and the shooter were an incel, neither would be mass shooters.


    May 7, 2018 at 6:20 PM

  5. So the question begs if Islamic terrorism is also caused by sexual frustration?

    1. Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan shot 13 people dead and was known to frequent strip clubs before the massacre.

    2. Mohammed Atta and the other 9-11 hijackers also frequented strip clubs before flying into the towers.

    Perhaps some Muslim men just dislike their wives and can’t seem to get sex outside of their marriages.

    The NYT has this:

    Sex and Shame: What Incels and Jihadists Have in Common


    May 7, 2018 at 7:14 PM

  6. Muslims still remember how to do alpha-male rage. The Boston Bombers and their ‘roid ragey friend were already alphas or within striking distance of it. But they felt angry that their team isn’t thoroughly dominating the globe. Promoting group dominance has the practical effect of increasing personal status. The idea is to be in the vanguard of conquest, and then, if he survives and conquers the dhimmis, he gets to be king – or at least a wealthy colonel and part of the king’s entourage. Either way, his alpha male dominance switches from pretty good by American teenager standards to epic.

    Not that those boys had a realistic plan to get there, but I think that’s the instinctual urge we’re looking at.

    Greg Pandatshang

    May 8, 2018 at 1:11 AM

  7. Lion is wrong. Islamic terrorism is indeed largely a beta male control problem.

    1. Rich Shieks and Imams take multiple wives. Leads to many Incel Muslim men.
    2. Men, incels and otherwise are taught that the reason they aren’t getting laid is the fault of the non believers. In addition they are taught that conquest of non believing women is ok, and that they’ll get 72 virgins if they die.

    As long as there is Islam, there is undersexed men who blame non believers for their personal issues.

    True believers who take action in non Islamic countries are overwhelmingly going to be alpha males. Beta Islamic males have a pretty good deal in the USA, where their high natural T put them at a dating advantage. But once Islam increases as a % to more than 3%, it will be the betas committing the violence, just as in Sweden and France and Italy.


    May 8, 2018 at 11:42 AM

  8. Even if Islamic terrorism can be seen as coming from the same place as beta male rage, this does not mean what liberals would want it to mean–that Islamic terrorism is not such a big deal because it’s just another form of a problem we have anyway.

    I’ve seen the same argument used here over the Rotherham and Telford ‘grooming’ scandals; that there are British men who do the same thing, so there are no greater implications if some Muslim men do it too. But the difference is that when British men do this they do not get the support, tacit or otherwise, of their local community. There is no sense that informing on such people constitutes a betrayal of their people to their enemy. There is no taboo about discussing the problem, the police do not have to worry about the cultural sensitivities of the perps community, and so on.

    Even if a Muslim man, say, stabs a Dutch documentary maker because deep down he is angry about his sex life, there is still a reason why he chose this target rather than another, and if you are a Dutch documentary maker you are still going to think twice before making a film critical of Islam just the same as if he was motivated by purely Islamic aims.. I doubt anyone would be too worried about making a film critical of incel men. Such men are not part of a cultural group, they don’t seriously ally with a coherent cause.

    Most of the men who followed Mohammad probably did so because of the promise of booty, in all its forms.

    Of course, if a terror attack can possibly be shown to have a white supremacist link then liberals will quite happily link their politics to the act and ban confederate flags and suchlike.

    prolier than thou

    May 8, 2018 at 5:07 PM

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