Lion of the Blogosphere

School shootings are fake news

In the sense that the fakestream media presents them as a huge problem, that’s fake news. We hear stories about parents who want to homeschool their children because of the out-of-control news coverage of school shootings.

Approximately 30 teenagers per year die from school shootings.

Meanwhile, approximately 1800 per year die from suicide, 2100 per year die from being murdered outside of school, and 5,700 per year die in traffic accidents. My source is this CDC web page.

The sooner we replace all of the human-driven vehicles with accident-free autonomous vehicles, the sooner we will save almost two hundred times as many teenage lives as we would save from ending all school shootings.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

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  1. I agree that it’s obviously being pushed for political purposes. The idea is to make conservatives out to be callously indifferent to the death of innocent children. Leftists are savvy enough to know that “we’re for the children” is an effective banner to wave.

    fortaleza84

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • For now, yes. But eventually I expect that enough “woke” activists will claim concern for Columbine and Sandy Hook style school shootings is white supremacy, and the left will have shot itself in the foot.

      Sid

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

  2. The left only cares about school shootings if they lead to passage of ever stricter gun control laws.

    Oswald Spengler

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • There is no scenario where someone fires an ar 15 and they don’t end up dead or in jail. Defending this is defending a weak position which weakens all other positions.

      Your mom’s mom

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Drunk poasting? It is true that anyone firing an AR-15 will end up dead…… eventually.

        And I am certain that people who fire AR-15s have a far lower incarceration rate versus the overall population.

        hard9bf

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Since they usually kill themselves when they are finished firing, I suppose so.

        Your mom’s mom

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

  3. what we learn from this example is the same thing we learn from observing the amount of time and money spent on fighting terrorism. even in 2001, deaths by terrorism pale in comparison to deaths by auto accident, and yet we don’t ban cars or lower speed limits to 10mph or set up dui checkpoints every 2 miles. and the reason for that is because the value of human life is not, as one would think, the most important value to uphold. random acts of massacre like terrorism and school shootings are such a complete affront to the notion of having any kind of civilized society that it demands our total attention and commitment to acting to change the situation.

    interesting to note though that gun violence deaths and auto deaths are about the same in US. therefore it is demonstrated that we value our freedom to engage in both of these potentionally deadly activities more than we value the lives lost in either case. which in the case of cars seems fair enough for their profound convience. in the case of guns, i guess if you really like guns it makes sense just the same.

    JM

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Motor vehicle transportation is necessary for our society to function. And probably, before cars, lots of people died from horse accidents.

      But guns… if they disappeared, no one would notice except people who shoot guns for a hobby.

      • Perhaps…but that doesn’t mean we should ban guns, though.

        GondwanaMan

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • What about all the people beaten and raped by roving bands of “youths”?

        CamelCaseRob

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • There goes Lion with his city slicker class consciousness.

        You can learn a thing or two from LA Koreans, and I’m not talking about golbi 😉.

        A Dilettante

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Motor vehicle transportation is necessary for our society to function.

        The argument “you don’t need a car” is just as valid as the argument “you don’t need an assault rifle”.

        Tarl

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Totally backwards. Widespread possession of guns preserves the political order and is absolutely necessary. The cops and DAs need to experience a certain level of fear.

        Widespread usage of motor vehicles, on the other hand, will be over in the next fifteen years. People who think otherwise are not capable of grade school arithmetic. Cars are going away. They will never be equipped with automated drivers because the automation aspect is irrelevant. There won’t be the energy to move cars around. People will be walking and biking. Cargo will be moved by barge and rail, not truck. Places that need cars and trucks will disappear.

        bobbybobbob

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • You don’t notice the lack of guns until some new Stalin rises to power and black trucks come to empty your neighbourhood at nigth. Then you would wish you still had those guns.

        tmmm

        June 1, 2018 at EDT am

      • And so are schools necessary. Middle class parents don’t want to send their kids to a school and learn on the news that the kid has been shot.

        Lion, there is no easy answer to this but school shootings are NOT fake news.

        Fail.

        gothamette

        June 1, 2018 at EDT am

      • Lion,

        That is all specious reasoning. There is. I intent behind a car accident. No one is using that to force you to submit to their ideology under threat of death. Meanwhile, both terrorism and gun control are ideologies designed to force you under the will of a hostile power who wants to do bad things to you. The solution to both is the same: report terrorists and gun controllers from your country and tyranny will go away.

        map

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

    • About 3/5 of gun deaths are suicides. Presumably eliminating guns would have a small impact on those.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

      Aperson

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • And what basis for that do you have? Supposedly there’s an even stronger relationship between gun ownership and suicide than with murder.

        Magnavox

        May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Suicide is a surprisingly impulsive act. If guns were less available, I’d expect the effect on self-termination to be significant. When soldiers in the IDF were restricted from taking their guns home on the weekend, suicides dropped something like 40%. When the packaging on pills is changed from a bottle to a blister pack, overdoses decline.

        Vince

        June 1, 2018 at EDT am

      • What basis?

        Our suicide rate is not high. We’re #48.

        Lots of countries above us and near us with much more restrictive gun laws.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

        Aperson

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Cars are only convenient because society is built around them. It’s also convenient to have elevators in 70 story buildings, but we wouldn’t need elevators if we had only 3-5 story buildings. Or if we had 3-5 story buildings the people who wanted to pay for the elevator could still take it but most who are healthy would just use the stairs or only use the elevator when they have to bring a bunch of things up. Our whole society is built like a 70 story building.

      It’s really a shame how this country developed around the car, We could have used cars properly without them becoming a necessity for everyone who wants to live a reasonable life.

      “d probably, before cars, lots of people died from horse accidents.”

      The biggest cause of death in Yellowstone National Park in its early years before cars became ubiquitous was horse and carriage accidents.

      ttgy1

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Some good points here.

        GondwanaMan

        June 1, 2018 at EDT am

      • Our modern industrial society can’t exist without motor vehicle transportation.

        Transportation is very valuable. Before motor vehicles there were horses, boats, steam-powered trains.

      • “Our modern industrial society can’t exist without motor vehicle transportation”

        I didn’t say we shouldn’t have cars or other motor vehicles. I only said we should build society so you don’t have to have one if you don’t want one. Society should be built with 3-5 story buildings with an elevator. The car is the elevator. You can still have single family homes and 70 story buildings.

        ttgy1

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Suburbs allow you to escape from people who are too poor to own a car.

      • NAMs drove whites to drive to the suburbs.

        Stan Adams

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Lion,

        Why don’t you move to the suburbs and commute? I assume because it is more convenient to live in the city.

        How long does it take you to get to work?

        “Suburbs allow you to escape from people who are too poor to own a car.

        Aren’t a lot of those people being moved out of the inner city projects to various suburbs and smaller towns in places like Iowa?

        ttgy1

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I HATE long commutes, and in NYC all commutes are extremely long unless you are paying a lot for rent. I’m in a nice doorman building, so I don’t have to worry about poor people.

    • Well, I have to disagree with the whole framing. Just because a democracy does something doesn’t mean it reveals much about the preferences of the people. Most people are grossly misinformed and give very little thought to any of these issues. Which is entirely rational.

      There’s an important difference between Al Qaeda terrorism and school shootings. One was an organized campaign to inflict maximum harm against us that inflicted thousands of casualties and billions of dollars of damage, and the other is a rounding error. Moreover, while USG responded pretty stupidly to Al Qaeda, if it had ignored Al Qaeda entirely, a lot more damage might have been inflicted. School shootings, on the other hand, could safely be ignored.

      Ideally you’d have a class of intelligent people who help provide context and data around these issues, but we have the exact opposite. A class of people who scaremonger, inflate the significance of every incident, and twist it to score points for their side.

      We have a national media, and we have 24,000 public high schools in this country. If our country was otherwise the same besides having 1/24 as many people, these incidents would be extremely rare, and people would be much less scared, even though the odds of any given school having an incident would be exactly the same. If our population doubles, they’ll become twice as common, and I guess we’ll be obliged to become twice as scared.

      Wency

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

  4. I’m more in favor of public transit, but that has a lot of NAMs so that scares your audience (which I can understand, I used to get scared whenever I rode public transit in college and I’m a decent-sized male).

    Regardless, there’s plenty of issues in America more pressing than school shootings. Plenty!

    GondwanaMan

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Most societies that are built around transit have few parallel systems with different price ranges of a ticket. Different class cabins on airplanes, ships, and trains. Different kinds of bus lines. Subway vs. bus vs. light rail vs. taxi cabs vs. car sharing etc. Some major cities have two or more different subway systems that target different income levels or different kinds of suburbs. It is not rocket science.

      My Two Cents

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

    • You could easily clean up public transportation just by making all fares traceable back to person who bought them and then cracking down by fining, banning, and imprisoning people. Everything is videotaped already it’s just so difficult to identify people that they only even try for very serious crimes. We obviously can’t have that because as a society we decided that law and order are just racist conspiracies, but the solution is quite simple.

      Magnavox

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

      • “because as a society we decided that law and order are just racist conspiracies”

        Except when the FBI is investigating Donald Trump, in that case they are the very core of Democracy!

      • If the place is too clean, it does not look and feel good to live in unless you have OCD. There is an optimum level of crime. Too little crime is as bad as too much crime. Also, a healthy society’s laws control both ends of normal distribution. There is as much damage from too smart people as from too stupid people. Too stupid people cause harm by physical aggression. Too smart people cause harm by fraud. The effect of both on normal people is about the same.

        my 2¢

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Except when the FBI is investigating Donald Trump, in that case they are the very core of Democracy!

        We’ve also decided that investigating and prosecuting rich powerful people is a communist conspiracy and therefore also something to be avoided at all costs. But Trump has become something of an exception there. He really may end up going down for some sleazy real estate behavior that nobody would have cared about until he became president.

        Magnavox

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The new high-speed Brightline train in South Florida (now running from Miami to West Palm Beach, with eventual expansion to Orlando) does not allow cash transactions of any kind. All purchases are made through credit cards. Presumably, this is a clever way of excluding from Brightline the homeless NAM derelicts who frequent Metrorail and Tri-Rail.

        Incidentally, Brightline trains have killed several pedestrians over the last few months. They function as a kind of Darwinian weeding-out mechanism: If you’re too dumb to figure out when it’s safe to cross the railroad tracks, then you’re too dumb to live.

        Stan Adams

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Public transport story from ’08. I’m at the Emarcadero BART station in SF on a Sunday morning and while I’m at the ticket machine a 60ish black man strolls through the emergency gate, down to the platform. So I go down and confront him about farejumping. and he spits on me, then says I have to “take your punishment” and goes into a boxing stance. I take out my mace and he walks up the escalotor, out of the station. I call it in to the cops, and they track him down a block away. When they handcuff him, he says, “why you always picking on the black man?” Ten or t turned out he had a warrant for failure to appear on a care eating charge.

        Marty

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “The new high-speed Brightline train in South Florida (now running from Miami to West Palm Beach, with eventual expansion to Orlando) does not allow cash transactions of any kind. ”

        Who takes this train? Are there that many commuters from WPB to Miami? I assume you would drive to the station in WPB and then catch the train into Miami?

        I wonder who will take the train to Orlando. It seems you would still need a car in Orlando unless you just stay at Disney.

        Good stations shouldn’t even allow people to cross the tracks. Just about all stations I’ve been to in Europe either have a bridge over the tracks or a tunnel if you need to get to a certain track.

        ttgy1

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @ttgy1

        State officials been talking about building a high-speed Miami-Orlando rail link since the early ’90s. Now a private company is finally doing it. It’s one of those recurring liberal wet dreams: “If we build a really fast train, everyone will get rid of their cars and we’ll be just like Europe!”

        The Miami station is right next to Government Center – the main downtown transit hub. It’s part of a large mixed-use complex, most of which is still under construction. Eventually, it will serve Amtrak and Tri-Rail, as well.

        I live in the Miami area. I haven’t been on the new train yet, but apparently it runs empty much of the time. The Ft. Lauderdale station and the train itself look nearly deserted in this video (and in others that I’ve seen):

        Note that, on that Sunday afternoon (May 21), a ticket for a one-way trip from Ft. Lauderdale to Miami cost $15. Not cheap.

        On weekends, Tri-Rail offers a $5 unlimited pass for service to any and all of its stations in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach. (It’s very popular with NAM mothers looking for a cheap way to entertain the kids.) Then again, Tri-Rail is only half as fast.

        In Dade County, a one-day pass for unlimited travel on all county Metrobuses and Metrorail is only $5.65. (The downtown Metromover is always free.)

        The Palm Beach Post reported recently that many trains have ridership in the single digits:
        https://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/business/brightline-trains-look-empty-post-counts-how-many-were-board/WeNuCY7pgphQYy7Ywv6jFO/

        (begin quote)

        WEST PALM BEACH — Before dawn on a Tuesday in late March, a four-car Brightline train — capacity 240 — pulled out of the company’s West Palm Beach station and headed south to Fort Lauderdale.

        Just eight passengers were on board.

        A few weeks later, an early-morning Sunday train carrying six people made the same trip.

        While Brightline’s service has been touted as a model for the future of passenger rail in the United States, opponents have questioned whether the company can make money with so many empty seats, with one even derisively referring to them as “ghost trains.”

        Not all the trains run near-empty. A Palm Beach Post review of ridership found at least three trains during a six-week period that carried more than 100 passengers, including a Saturday afternoon run in March with 144.

        (end quote)

        I take the Metrorail (and Metromover) fairly often. Metrorail covers only a small portion of Dade County. It’s pretty much useless for anyone who doesn’t work downtown.

        The much-ballyhooed Metrorail airport link opened in 2012, nearly three decades after the rest of the system. After decades of anemic ridership, Metrorail as a whole now has a respectable usage rate, but the airport station is usually pretty empty. I have had entire rail cars to myself on that trip.

        (Keep in mind that the Miami Airport station is the southern terminus of Tri-Rail. It was supposed to be the southern terminus of Amtrak, as well, but the designers screwed up their measurements and built the platforms too short.)

        The safety problem is at the crossings, not the stations. At least one of the deaths was a suicide:
        http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/delray-beach/fl-pn-brightline-fatality-delray-20180408-story.html

        Stan Adams

        June 2, 2018 at EDT am

      • @ttgy1

        Not that it matters, but May 21 was a Monday.

        Stan Adams

        June 2, 2018 at EDT am

      • That would not solve anything. 99% of the current ridership are paying the fare. Public transportation in most of America is for NAM’s too poor to afford a car. It is a hellish, dangerous, vomit inducing experience for the average white person and they are never going to participate in it unless they are in truly desperate straits.

        PerezHBD

        June 2, 2018 at EDT am

  5. Just like they claim that more people are killed by “white supremacist terrorists” than Muslim terrorists, then you find out that they count the likes of Elliot Rodger as a “white supremacist terrorist.”

    Hermes

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

  6. In the sense that the fakestream media presents them as a huge problem, that’s fake news.

    The point is to ultimately repeal the Second Amendment as John Paul Stevens called for.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. ResetEra say that Trump’s pardons are because Mueller is closing in and he is panicking.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • ResetEra say that Trump’s pardons are because Mueller is closing in and he is panicking.

      Mueller is “closing in” on targets that are less and less likely to have been involved in collusion with Russia and who are instead being nailed for alleged wrong doing unrelated to Russia collusion such as Stormy Daniels and that Russian car dealer Michael Cohen did work with.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • If Mueller’s investigation is “circling” it is only in the sense water ripples move further and further away from their central origin.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

  8. Yep, and so are teachers sleeping with students and terrorism.

    CamelCaseRob

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • > Still, it is clear that both boys were somewhere near the bottom of the social pyramid.

      Incorrect. They were mid tier. The school and town were and are shit shows of American moral dysfunction. Michael Moore had some valid points to make. When you run with the “bullied sad weird kid shoots up the jocks” trope you are simply wrong about what has ever happened. That just sells ads.

      Much as with the narcotic abuse epidemics the more relevant questions, in my opinion, is what is driving people crazy. It’s not bullying and lion’s social status neuroticisms. There are deeper spiritual ills and the toxicity of day to day life in modern America.

      bobbybobbob

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

  9. They’re tailor-made for media tear-jerking: “The children are dying! Shame! Shame!”

    Then again, sometimes the fake news can be interesting.

    Some years ago, I devoted a substantial amount of time to studying the Columbine massacre. I was primarily interested in uncovering the killers’ psychological motivations.

    There is a best-selling book that purports that Eric Harris was a bloodthirsty psychopath, while Dylan Klebold was a flaky emo who just wandered into Harris’ orbit. The book’s author appears frequently on CNN as an expert on school violence and is a professed admirer of David Hogg.

    The author claims that Harris was a popular, swaggering ladies’ man who “got lots and lots of chicks” and “outscored the football team.” (These are actual quotes.)

    This is preposterous. The preponderance of evidence indicates that Harris was a bitterly resentful incel.

    Harris himself wrote:

    “Everyone is always making fun of me because of how I look, how f**king weak I am and shit, well I will get you all back: ultimate f**king revenge here. you people could have shown more respect, treated me better, asked for my knowledge or guidence more, treated me more like senior, and maybe I wouldn’t have been as ready to tear your f**king heads off. then again, I have always hated how I looked, I make fun of people who look like me, sometimes without even thinking sometimes just because I want to rip on myself. Thats where a lot of my hate grows from, the fact that I have practically no selfesteem, especially concerning girls and looks and such. therefore people make fun of me… constantly… therefore I get no respect and therefore I get f**king PISSED. as of this date I have enough explosives to kill about 100 people, and then if I get a couple bayonetts, swords, axes, whatever I’ll be able to kill at least 10 more. and that just isnt enough! GUNS! I need guns! Give me some f**king firearms!”

    “NBK came quick. Why the f**k can’t I get any? I mean, I’m nice and considerate and all that s**t, but nooooo…The amount of dramatic irony and foreshadowing is f**king amazing. Everything I see and hear I incorporate into NBK somehow…feels like a goddamn movie sometimes…

    “I hate you people for leaving me out of so many fun things. And no, don’t f**king say, ‘Well, that’s your fault’ because it isn’t, you people had my phone #, and I asked and all, but no no no no no don’t let the weird looking Eric kid come along, oooh f**king nooo.”

    On the infamous “basement tapes,” never seen publicly but screened for reporters back in ’99, Harris listed five girls “who never even called me back” and then said: “You know who you are. Thanks. You made me feel good. Think about that for a while, f**king b***hes.”

    There is footage from before the massacre that shows Harris dealing with a group of “jock bullies” at the school:

    (If you examine Harris’ body language, you can see that, as he nears the larger boys, he cowers like a little dog.)

    It is interesting that Harris and Klebold made a fake commercial (for a video class) in which they depicted themselves as armed “hitmen for hire” for bullied kids:

    Harris kept a number of “s**t lists,” including a “should have died” list of kids who graduated the year before the massacre. The kid at the top of one of these lists was a star football player and wrestler who was widely regarded as a sociopathic bully – a living, breathing version of Biff from the Back to the Future movies.

    The Washington Post published a long front-page article about him:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/june99/columbine12.htm

    There was a rumored incident where a bunch of jocks threw ketchup-covered tampons at Harris and Klebold in the cafeteria. In her book, Klebold’s mother recounts a day when Klebold stormed into the house, covered in ketchup, and said that he had just had the worst day of his life. He refused to tell her exactly what had happened.

    There were also alleged incidents involving the flinging of human excrement.

    I am not convinced that bullying, per se, was a major factor. (Social alienation was most definitely a factor.) Many if not most kids are bullied; vanishingly few commit homicide. Still, it is clear that both boys were somewhere near the bottom of the social pyramid.

    I could write a lot more, but I’ll leave you with this: I’m not a psychologist, but how anyone can study Columbine and conclude that Harris was anything other than an omega incel is beyond me.

    Incidentally, this author is gay as all get out. He’s an outspoken proponent of “barebacking” and heartily endorses the use of Truvada.

    (If you don’t know what any of that means, then your mind is still pure. Keep it that way.)

    Stan Adams

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Truvada is leading to a resurgence of ghonorea in the MSM community. Yeah them.

      Half Canadian

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Do dogs f**k other dogs in the anus? Sorry, I’m not up on gay dog behavior.

      Curle

      May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

    • The Columbine shooters were bullies, not bullied. This is widely documented. The whole “weird bullied kid shoots up the school” trope came from that event and in that case it was simply not true. They beat up people without consequence before the event.

      bobbybobbob

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

    • The Hoffschneider goon seems to be a great reason why individual citizens need to be armed. He’s basically a white Michael Brown or any of the so called NAM criminals discussed on this blog.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      June 1, 2018 at EDT am

  10. What is this ‘news’ thing of which you speak? I only know of heavily edited and typically incomplete stories purporting to recount recent events in a manner designed to present the background conjectures and prejudices of those paying to circulate said stories as if they were reliably coherent with reality which they rarely are.

    Curle

    May 31, 2018 at EDT pm

  11. The list of top twitter account by followers is women singer (60%), anchor and media companies (30%) and head of government (10%). It’s probable that neither the third nor the second group have any more power than the first one

    Bruno

    June 1, 2018 at EDT am

  12. Autonomous cars will fail for many reasons the main one being what is going to happen when a group of “urban youths” surround your car ready to murder you and your passengers?

    redarmyvodka

    June 1, 2018 at EDT am

    • Perhaps the car can be programmed to avoid vibrant neighborhoods.

      Oswald Spengler

      June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

    • This is so ridiculous. What’s to stop “urban youths” from surrounding you as you leave Starbucks? The autonomous vehicle is the most valuable property, and it’s something they can’t steal. And it has cameras recording the event. Naturally, people will get mugged. People will always get mugged, but driverless cars are a huge net gain for humanity.

      Vince

      June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • You can avoid most ghetto areas but you can’t avoid a Black Lives Matter protest blocking the street especially when the chickenshit local city political class won’t do anything about it. News reports will even suggest the driver is at fault for “provoking” peaceful protestors.

        Autonomous cars are all hype and no substance a way to enslave humanity not liberate them. Make no mistake the powers that be want to control, track, and restrict your movements to a few designated habitat zones in the urban cesspool of the future while creating exemptions for themselves.

        redarmyvodka

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “Autonomous cars are all hype”

        Not hype. Backhaul fiber for newly deployed and soon to be deployed small cells to carry the digital load of these cars is being installed throughout the US. Cable companies are counting on this new revenue stream to make up for over the top programming losses. Satellites aren’t reliable enough to do the job.

        Curle

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

  13. “Fake news” should be reserved for news that is false. You may think that school shootings are covered too much, but they are terrible events that should be reported.

    someguy

    June 1, 2018 at EDT am

    • I disagree. What the fakestream media does is not make up facts that don’t exist, but they control the message by deciding what to report and what to ignore, and only reporting half of the facts that advance their narrative and ignore the facts which don’t.

      • Lion, ur still below 130, otherwse u’d notice that it’s nowhere near 30 deaths per year! They’re counting gang incidents on school grounds!!!!!!!!!!! The true death toll from mass shootings (at least 4 dead) is closer to ~ 8/year. Not anywhere near 30! 8 dead per 70 million students and a year! And it may barely climb to 10, if we we lower the bar to 3 dead (and 2 deaths ain’t a mass shooting).!!!!!!!!

        bombexpert

        June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “They’re counting gang incidents on school grounds!”

        That’s still a kid dying at school. May as well be liberal in estimating the number of on-school-grounds deaths, given how few there are. Kids are less likely to die at school than at home, although much more likely to be bullied at school.

      • I agree with you but I think it’s a bit worse than that, which is that the fakestream media will accept dubious claims without skepticism if those claims support their narrative. So for example if a Muslim woman tells a reporter that a bunch of white men grabbed her hijab while yelling “Donald Trump,” there is a pretty good chance the fakestream media will report her claims as fact, even if there is no corroboration.

        fortaleza84

        June 2, 2018 at EDT am

  14. If you always report a story of the granny biting the german Shepherd while never pointing out that generally it goes the other way around, you are both building a narrative but lying. Some comment can be literally true but a lie in context by omission or insinuation for example.

    Bruno

    June 1, 2018 at EDT am

  15. How do school shooting fatalities compare to deaths inflicted by cows?

    Oswald Spengler

    June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

  16. Autonomous cars are fake news.

    my 2¢

    June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

  17. 800,000 people commit suicide each year, worldwide. More gun laws probably wouldn’t reduce that significantly; in india people poison themselves with pesticides. China accounts for 25% of all suicides and I’m not even sure they can own guns over there.

    Speaking of deadly weapons I saw a deer trot by my house (north shore) this morning.

    toomanymice

    June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

    • CO2 poisoning, medication overdoses, jumping off bridges and jumping in front of trains remain popular options. And in a few states, Oregon for sure, you can have a doctor off you.

      Curle

      June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

  18. O/t – Mikey Rotondo finally moves out of his parents’ basement not before a rift between his dad over some missing lego pieces that belongs to his son, where the police was called upon to settle the dispute.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-millennial-finally-leaves-his-parents-home-but-first-calls-cops-on-his-dad-over-legos/ar-AAy7dSp?li=BBnbfcL

    I wouldn’t even call this guy eccentric. He belongs in another dimension. He looks like a nerd, a guido hipster, but comes off as a prole because of his situation, but he isn’t your prole to label him a prole.

    More out of the reality scenario: he will be living in an airbnb rental before moving into his cousin’s place of residence, all this within the confine of Syracuse.

    JS

    June 1, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Agreed this guy is a weirdo extraordinaire. I wonder what he did, or failed to do, to lose visitation rights with his son. I listened to some of the alex jones interview with rontondo and his level of self pity and deflection is pathological.

      toomanymice

      June 2, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “Agreed this guy is a weirdo extraordinaire.”

        All the more reason why it’s mean-spirited for the fakestream media to use him as a punching bag.

      • In all fairness he put himself out there. Even after that dreadful cnn interview, he kept doing more interviews!

        toomanymice

        June 2, 2018 at EDT pm

  19. What does “fakestream” media even mean in this context? Both the left and right exaggerate the importance of school shootings, just with different spins to suit their own agendas. If you watch Fox News all day you will still think school shootings are a major crisis – but that we need more religion in schools and less pornography.

    Peter Akuleyev

    June 2, 2018 at EDT am

    • I presume fakestream encompasses participants in a bogus hegelian dialectic. Though this site regularly mocks the ‘alt-right’ I take it is a base premise of the alt-right that phony Right-Left dialectic is a big part of the problem in that it excludes reality which might, and likely does, exist outside the boundaries of the dialectic.

      Curle

      June 2, 2018 at EDT pm


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