Lion of the Blogosphere

Piper Palin, fourth Palin kid in a row not to go to college?

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Can’t even go to college and get a real bachelor’s degree in nursing?

At least Piper is ahead of her older sister Bristol who briefly attended a certified nursing program but dropped out.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

Posted in Proles

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  1. Since you have no kids, Lion, somebody’s going to have to empty your bedpan when the time comes.

    Dave

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Good point. There’s a lot of foreign CNAs that will let you stew in puddles off filth and bed sores until you die in agony.

      jjbees

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

      • This is HBD.

        jjbees

        June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Derb:
      http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/going-out-with-a-bang-instead-of-a-whimper/

      I have a good selection of guns and have made up my mind that if it comes to diapers, I shall see myself out with a gun. I will not wear diapers—that’s the end point for me, the milestone I am determined not to pass.

      MEH 0910

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • They all say that.

        Mrs Stitch

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • I kinda agree with Stitch. When the day comes that you need diapers, it’s gotta be easy to convince yourself that perhaps it’s temporary and anyway there are still redeeming aspects to your life.

        I myself am a technological optimist and intend to fight to the bitter end and then get cryosuspended.

        fortaleza84

        June 22, 2018 at EDT am

    • Due to a botched C-section, my mother was left with permanent bladder damage after giving birth to me. She underwent four surgical procedures, all of which failed to correct the problem.

      Suffice it to say that, even as a small child, I was accustomed to dealing with her frequent BEs – “Bathroom Emergencies.”

      (The worst-case scenario was the dreaded “No. 2 BE.” Any long car trip would invariably include at least one of these.)

      As the only child of a single mother, I had little choice but to render whatever assistance she required, however icky.

      Stan Adams

      June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  2. That nursing certificate probably has an ROI better than 80% of the b.s. degrees kids go into debt for.

    B.T.D.T.

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “The average hourly rate for a Certified Nurse Assistant (CNA) in Anchorage is $15.20 per hour.”

      This isn’t a lot especially when you take into account Alaska’s cost of living.

      She would be better off becoming an LPN or an RN, but she’s too stupid and too prole to do that. It’s said that all 5 of Palin’s kids are dumber than her.

      SC

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Earning $15.20 per hour while you see if you have an aptitude for the field isn’t bad. It’s not like she can’t go back for an LPN or an RN later.

        Dave Pinsen

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • I agree but everything is relative. In Anchorage that is probably not that bad. It is certainly better than making $12 an hour at a Starbucks in a major city and being $200,000 in debt like so many college grads. And Piper will probably marry a nice policeman or lumberjack and have a few kids instead of being a miserable cat lady shitlib for the rest of her life.

        B.T.D.T.

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • She could still do that. Some places will pay for your lpn. LPNs can become RNs. My step worked his way thru medical school as an LVN at the county jail. He could handle those guys. Now he’s a shrink at the VA hospital in Long Beach and doesn’t talk to us anymore.

        We’re so prole here in Montana.

        Mrs Stitch

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Without a doubt it does.

      Half Canadian

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • One year and she would at least be an LPN.

      Mrs Stitch

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Is there really a market for LPNs anymore? I heard that LPN was being phased out in favor of RN.

        maryk

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Seems to me that the healthcare industry has infinite needs of employees of all levels, but I could be wrong.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Nursing homes and county health use LPNs.

        Mrs Stitch

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Where I’m at (not NYC), LPNs can make ~40K out of school. Long-0term care centers are hiring LPNs, and it doesn’t seem to be changing while the boomers are retiring.

        Half Canadian

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • dammit maryk get back in the kitchen and fix me a sammich

        driveallnight

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  3. Maybe Trig will be the one?

    But, seriously, Piper only turned 17 in march. My guess is that she got the CNA to get a job and make more money while she pursues something else, probably an RN. If that’s the case then it actually makes sense. I knew a girl who did that.

    Then, again, the Palin’s are Assembly of God/Pentecostal. That is a VERY blue collar denomination.

    destructure

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Pentecostals in general tend to be lower/working class (and very racially diverse).

      GondwanaMan

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  4. How many times I have to repeat that happiness is functioning on your own level? My Tajik keeps getting amazed how all work is honorable in the US. It was much more so 40 years ago.

    Yakov

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

  5. Right to both previous comments plus – can you please give up on the Palins? They are not a high status family. Your behavior towards them is uncharitable.

    gothamette

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • They chose to stay in the limelight long after the 2008 election. Lion, remember, saw through Palin the day she announced her candidacy. He’s right to keep talking about it.

      Tanturn

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Putting a picture up on Instagram isn’t staying in the limelight.

        gothamette

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Not if you or I did it. But Palin knew when she wrote the post that the public would be reading; she could have used a private social media account accessible only to her friends if that was what she was going for.

        I think it’s important to remember Palin because she demonstrates the importance of IQ in our “leaders.” If you read Lion’s post on the day of Palin’s selection, there were many comments saying it didn’t matter. The next few months were an excellent test of that theory.

        Tanturn

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  6. A CNA is not a nurse. BTDT is correct that a nursing degree has a very good ROI. It’s hard to say whether a CNA program does too; the shorter amount of time in school probably doesn’t offset the lower pay.

    J1

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. With overtime, RNs easily cross 100k salary in a few years. Not everyone is cut out 4 law or investment banking. Nursing has pretty decent ROI. And can’t be outsourced.

    mpt

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

  8. These type of women are found in the non-elite parts of the Anglosphere, who are the majority of the fairer sex. I would croak and eventually kill myself if I saw these type of women day in and day out.

    JS

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

  9. eh,, the world needs nurses, too. We all learned neither Sarah nor Todd (IIRC) is a brain trust.

    Jack Cade

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • She’s not a nurse, she’s a CNA. Of course, the world does need CNAs, but Mike Pence’s daughter is in Yale Law School.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Nah, a CNA is a nurse. It’s basically the first level. Certainly appropriate for a kid.

        A good certification to have, many useful skills even if you never use it professionally, get immediate work wherever if you want to travel and see the country. Makes perfect sense with the hands-on tiny-l libertarian ethic of the family. Kid probably packs a pistol too and can butcher a moose. I would view this as part of a family strategy that has its own following and has local weight.

        Only in recent years have RN Bachelors become a thing, we even have Nursing Doctorates now.

        Robert

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • I remember 4-year nursing students in the 80s. Not recent.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • @Robert

        Nursing Doctorates are so that society has someone to teach nurses.

        1 year certificate programs are for CNAs

        For LPNs. there are 1 year certificate programs, but it’s better to do the 2 year associate’s degree.

        For RNs, there are 2 year associate’s degree programs, but in order to get into a top hospital in a top city, you should get the 4 year bachelor’s degree from a top university (Columbia, Duke, etc). The RNs that make 6 figures without overtime are mostly graduates of top universities and work in top hospitals.

        Masters Degrees are for NPs. This is a great option for a high IQ, low ambition girl from an affluent family. You can make $115,000 a year right off the bat at age 24 and not have to spend your mid-late 20’s doing med school, residencies, or other crap. NPs imo are highy desirable as wives because they usually come from good families, have high IQs, but don’t have the ambition to be doctors.

        SC

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • “The RNs that make 6 figures without overtime are mostly graduates of top universities and work in top hospitals”

        The RNs that make six figures without overtime are mostly RNs who work in coastal areas with high (or extremely high) RN pay rates. An RN who went to Columbia makes $100K because she stayed in NYC, not because she went to Columbia. In Oklahoma City she’d make $60K. Nobody cares where she got her BSN, just that she has one.

        J1

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • @JI

        Um, no. The top hospitals in New York, Boston, and San Francisco DO care which university you went to and how well you did there.

        Some rural hospital on Oklahoma probably doesn’t care, but I assure you the best hospitals in New York do.

        The most assured way to get hired by a top hospital is to attend a top nursing program at a top university.

        SC

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

    • The RNs that make six figures without overtime are mostly RNs who work in coastal areas with high (or extremely high) RN pay rates.

      Back in the mid-90s, I dated a Colombian woman that legally came to the US on her own at age 19, learned English, got her CNA, and went to work. Then progressed to her LPN, AS Nursing, BS Nursing, RN, MSN, and ARNP w/i less than ten years. Before the age of 30, back in the late ’90s, she was working two full-time RN jobs at two different hospitals making $65K at each job (three 12-hour days at job 1 then three 12-hour days at job 2). She did that for a few years, banked a ton of money and invested early enough in S. FL waterfront real estate, until she was laid off when the hospital brought in a bunch of lower-paid Filipina RNs.

      For the past ten years, she’s been working an easy full-time RN job in the Miami-Dade County jail for $85K plus great benefits. But the real estate has quadrupled.

      Masters Degrees are for NPs. This is a great option for a high IQ, low ambition girl from an affluent family. You can make $115,000 a year right off the bat at age 24

      In order to get away from bedside nursing, way too many S. FL RNs had the same plan, and my Colombian friend could never get a full-time ARNP position; she has been able to hustle up some extra tax-exempt cash doing hospital rounds for docs for $35 per 10-min visit, but that might mean driving to five different hospitals in the S. FL traffic.

      E. Rekshun

      June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  10. That’s lower than prole. Not even a two year degree.

    JW

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • She’s 17 ffs. How many 17 year olds do you know with 2-year degrees?

      Dave Pinsen

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  11. Very smart move by young Palin. Alaska has the highest salaries for CNA’s in the nation. She can earn a decent living while looking for a husband and can slowly gain certifications and higher income in the event she has trouble finding one. She seems cute. Will probably be married within three years.

    PerezHBD

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Given the family history, she’s more likely to be a single mother than married.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

      • She has white-trash mom already written all over her face. How can a 17-year-old already look old?

        DdR

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Proles mature faster.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • If she were a 30 year old, I might note that:

        She looks old because of an unfortunate confluence of too much fat, what might be acne scarring but could be bad makeup or a shadow, fried hair, bad makeup, and bad teeth.

        Losing a few pounds, paying more for her hair, getting some makeup lessons from a professional, and some dermatologist treatments (laser?) for the acne scarring would do a lot for her. After that, then she should think about cosmetic dentistry. Doing better with the prole fashion sense probably won’t help her much in her life because everyone around her undoubtedly dresses as bad or worse.

        She’s an extremely average 17 year old. It follows that there is nothing to be overly critical in regard to, especially given her circumstances in a frozen backwater.

        In fact, that certificate will enable her to squeek by as a more or less independent adult. Very few seventeen year olds can say that. Given her ambition for that field, I’d guess that an RNA is in her future, with plenty of time to obtain a nurse practioner’s license that will have her pulling 120k and in high demand across the country.

        Mica

        June 24, 2018 at EDT pm

    • While we’re at it, let’s flashback to the other commenters who hold a similar opinion of Canada being a nicer country than our ugly Alaskan mess.

      Downtown Anchorage:

      Downtown Winnipeg – Canada’s most dangerous city:

      JS

      June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Another name for Alaska should be the Arctic Arizona. Just as Arizona is known as the Florida Desert. Destinations that share a similar prole demography and attract the same types of people.

        JS

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Reno without the neon.

        xreno

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Winnipeg is the most dangerous city in Canada and it looks like a place where Brooklyn SWPLs could call home. It this joke?

        JS

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

    • This. It’s a great and level-headed strategy. The Palin family are smart people.

      And of course it’s not really a strategy, they probably put way, way less thought into this than, for example, my much cuter high school girlfriend put into her college/graduate school/career planning at age 18 that is basically all for nothing in the end, probably going to result in her a childless and miserable cat lady. Unlike this Palin kid who will be living her hashtag best life.

      Lion, there’s a whole world of life going on that has nothing to do with “elite” “career tracks” and it’s full of people who are very happy. Of course there is also a lot of struggling and dysfunction in prole world too.

      It’s much better for everyone if some of the good, smart proles stay in prole world instead of getting “big meritocratic sort”-ed into a major city and a white collar/new economy grind track.

      Lion being an archetypical upper middle class bugman striver, he can’t imagine why someone would not “leverage” being a VP candidate’s child for all of its striver-value.

      Anon

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • The two oldest Palin kids don’t seem very happy to me.

        “Lion, there’s a whole world of life going on that has nothing to do with “elite” “career tracks” and it’s full of people who are very happy.”

        I think you’re being fooled by the Red on the map, thinking that the world of 1950 still exists. The past really is dead.

        Tanturn

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Right the prole world is full of opioid addicts and single moms, not happy Leave-it-to-Beaver nuclear families. And both Beaver parents were college graduates anyway.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • there’s a whole world of life going on that has nothing to do with “elite” “career tracks” and it’s full of people who are very happy.

        A couple of old high school classmates skipped college and went on to become city firefighters in their very early 20s. Retired on $50K(and growing) annual pensions (+ health insurance) in their mid-40s. They never made $100K but pretty close, had lots of fun working, serendipitously rode the real estate boom from early on, enjoyed tremendous camaraderie with their coworkers, and still happily live in our hometown with a close-by, deep network of friends and family.

        E. Rekshun

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • An increasing number of firefighters have associate’s degrees in fire science.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • A couple of old high school classmates skipped college and went on to become city firefighters…

        Actually, more than a couple…and this is the case at cities and towns all over America.

        While I’ve been stable at the same company and city for the past ten years, I spent the previous 20 years sweating, surviving, and not surviving layoffs; competing; and trudging through half a dozen household moves. No pension, or six-figure salary, but the 401K and real estate turned out pretty good.

        An increasing number of firefighters have associate’s degrees in fire science.
        Yes, no doubt, though hardly rigorous.

        E. Rekshun

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “Lion, there’s a whole world of life going on that has nothing to do with “elite” “career tracks” and it’s full of people who are very happy.”

        “I think you’re being fooled by the Red on the map, thinking that the world of 1950 still exists. The past really is dead”.

        Nah, he’s right. It does still exist for a lot of the nation. You need to get out and experience your country a bit more.

        Mica

        June 24, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “An increasing number of firefighters have associate’s degrees in fire science”.

        That’s a strange way of stating that the vast majority do not. Moreover, most large urban departments have their own training systems that teach their way of doing things. Its no dissimilar from in-house Union training for the trades.

        Mica

        June 24, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “She can earn a decent living while looking for a husband and can slowly gain certifications and higher income in the event she has trouble finding one.”

      Would you marry her? I advocate MGTOW, but if you are going to marry, you should marry a smart woman, or else a hardcore fundamentalist. Marrying her would be an invitation to get tossed onto the family court plantation.

      Tanturn

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Not only that, for a 17 years old she is fat, I don’t care if this is the American standard these days, it is disgusting.

        Hashed

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  12. I can think of worse things for a society than women not squandering their most fertile years in college.

    Issac

    June 20, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Hear, hear.

      Any society that discourages its brightest women from passing on their genes is doing grave harm to future generations. The credentialist/careerist treadmill leads to barren wombs, empty cribs, and dead family trees. Dysgenic fertility leads directly to civilizational decline.

      Feminist dogma aside, women exist to bear children and to raise them to maturity. It is their primary function.

      As an atheist, Lion, you should appreciate the viewpoint that the cold, hard reality of life is that there is no higher purpose beyond surviving long enough to procreate, to ensure the continuation of the species. No heaven above, no hell below, just a bunch of opposable-thumbed monkeys trying to spread their seed.

      As a man, you are fairly expendable. Sperm is cheap; eggs are valuable. But it is still disturbing to consider the prospect that your intelligence will die with you, while the stupidity of a Walmart-shopping troglodyte might endure for a thousand generations.

      Then again, if modern technological civilization does collapse and the world reverts to barbarism, then Darwinian selection will once again promote eugenic fertility. (This is assuming that creatures resembling modern humans are still around after the final collapse.) As survival becomes ever more difficult and intelligence grows ever more necessary, the troglodyte genes will be winnowed out. So maybe we needn’t worry about it in the long run.

      Stan Adams

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Good post!

        CamelCaseRob

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Yeah, you saw Idiocracy, no?

        sestamibi

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Oh boy!! A manosphere lurker over here. Lol.

      mpt

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Get a load of this guy, he’s been here for two minutes and wants to act like this HBD blog hasn’t been allied with the HBD-manosphere since forever. “Lol”.

        S.J., Esquire

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • I would say that I’m sympathetic to the idea of MGTOW, but I don’t follow the manosphere very closely.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Mock me all you want, but just remember that civilization is a fragile thing.

        Stan Adams

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • There is nothing gayer than mgtow. Nothing.

        driveallnight

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I think any of the numerous gay associations are by definition more gay.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Nah

        driveallnight

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  13. She’s 17, Lion, and probably a rising high school senior. I think it’s a 8-12 week program. Might take longer in high school, and I imagine she did it in high school in a pre-health professions track. Lots of health professions students get the CNA, or similarly, phlebotomy certification, or “EMT Basic,” on their way to becoming an LPN or RN or something else. Even some MD’s did it, to buff their resumes as a pre-med by working as a CNA/Phlebotomist/EMT to show their dedication and experience working in the healthcare field. I was advised to do it, back in the the day (but didn’t).

    Kosher Kowboy

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • yeah this is my thinking, this was probably a program encouraged or offered by her school. My niece is in a similar nursing track at her high school. Curtis HS on SI has a well regarded nursing program where students graduate as LPNs.

      My daughter wants to go into medicine and plans to do EMT training at 17.

      toomanymice

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  14. At least she doesn’t have tattoos.

    Daniel

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • She’s not 18 yet.

      Mica

      June 24, 2018 at EDT pm

  15. Oh well…IQ of about 95 and decent-enough looking. All most women really want other than a successful husband.

    GondwanaMan

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  16. It will be really weird Palin’s grandchildren. Just random blue-collar people but with a grandma who was governor and a serious contender for the vice presidency.

    Spoons

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  17. Those awful prole cellulite legs….

    Alex

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

  18. “Maryk” has been considering a CNA certificate and possibly addiing phlebotomy and EDK to become a pateint care technician. She thought she might try CNA to see if she wanted to go into nursing. What do all of you think? A CNA certificate can be obtained in 4 weeks.

    maryk

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • do it

      Otis the Sweaty

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Thanks for the advice, Otis. I’m probably going to. But does your answer mean that you hope one day I’ll be giving you a partial bed bath? LOL.

        maryk

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • that’s EKG. Typo!

      maryk

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • Maryk: Just keep in mind that the CNA is doing stuff the nurses don’t want to do, and as a CNA you’ll be under the direct supervision of nurses who may not be as smart as you. There may be some logic to it as a stepping stone. But part of me just wants to tell you to go straight into an RN program.

      Kosher Kowboy

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • I’m not sure if I would be accepted into an RN program. Although I have a master’s degree in Information Science and a BA in Poli Sci, my overall GPAs weren’t good. Although if there is some nursing equivalent of the LSATs I’m sure I could ace them. I’ve never been much of a science student, but I did take and pass high school chemistry, and College Biology. How much math do you need to do the nursing degree?

        There is something called Patient Care Technician, which is CNA with EKG and Plebotomy training added. This may be less competitive. I’m 57 and have to take into account the fact that I’m competing with younger peope.

        At any rate, you said that part of you wants to tell me to go straight into an RN program. What’s holding you back from actually suggesting it? I assume it’s probably my age. Or maybe you’re not sure I can handle the science and math courses. Just curious.

        Maryk

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Are you young, maryk? I assumed you were an older woman like gothamette.

      CamelCaseRob

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • driveallnight, what makes you think I’m a good sandwich maker? LOL.

        Maryk

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Sorry, Rob, I was trying to repy to driveallnight and messed up. Yes, I ‘m an older woman – age 57.

        Maryk

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

    • From what I’ve seen in hospitals, CNAs are glorified janitors, cleaning up the nasty bodily fluid messes, changing diapers, hauling patients around which especially for obese patients is extremely labor intensive. You would probably be paid about the same and exposed to less danger working in a hospital cafeteria.

      toomanymice

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • There’s some truth to what you say. But I ‘ve mentioned several times that I’m more than a few pounds overweight. I’m not sure it’s a good idea for me to work in any job involving food service!

        Maryk

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

  19. College is overrated. Unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer or investment banker, you can make a good living by learning a trade (be it nursing, plumbing, computer programming or whatever).

    Mister Triple 800

    June 21, 2018 at EDT am

    • Without a college degree, for the rest of your life everyone will think you are prole, and for every employer there is a glass ceiling for those without college degrees.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • College has become so prohibitively expensive and yet frequently so useless in the job market that what you claim is bound to change. Not everyone pines for an alternate life as some asshole law partner with a summer cottage in The Hamptons. And what the hell is wrong with being prole? What you call proles literally built this country and fought its wars. Only the weak allow what others think of them to rule their lives.

        Mister Triple 800

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • “What you call proles literally built this country and fought its wars. Only the weak allow what others think of them to rule their lives.”

        George Washington wasn’t prole.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT am

      • Washington was a member of the elite, and he was born into that elite. Going to college is not likely to make anyone elite unless they are very, very lucky. This matter about the “glass ceiling”, by the way, is largely relevant to those who want to rise up within some bureaucratic organization like a big company. The vast majority of hopefuls who attend college so that they can rise in some big company (rather than starting their own business) end up as middle managers at best, or vice presidents (if they’re lucky, and their company has as many “vice presidents” as the army of a banana republic has colonels). They go through a lifetime of kissing ass and classroom compliance and obsessive conformity only to end up as some well-paid schmuck who shuffles paper in your classic, even quintessential “bullshit job”. Again – if they’re lucky. Everybody else ends up as time-serving cubicle rats. Such are the wages of college. Speaking of the founding fathers, let’s consider Jefferson’s idea of a nation of citizen farmers. Everyone a responsible and autonomous individual running his (or her) own farm, or shop, or service, or trade – that would be far more psychologically salubrious a fate than spending your life timorously bowing and scraping to the petty tyrant on the next step above you. That is what college prepares you for – for the majority. If you want to be a lawyer (hard to do nowadays, as you’ve observed), a doctor (all those long, long hours and years of preparation and fifty grand a year tuition fees), a dentist (each to his own), an investment banker (depending on your Hare Test rating), or – my personal alternate world aspiration – a college professor (which my departmental adviser strongly encouraged me to pursue), then fine – by all means, go for it. But if all you want is to make a living, college is an increasingly wrong-headed option. Last but not least, the college-educated path to the white collar hell is notoriously emasculating, the ultimate generator of “beta males”, while the masculinity of the blue collar male can remain intact.

        Mister Triple 800

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “Washington was a member of the elite, and he was born into that elite. Going to college is not likely to make anyone elite unless they are very, very lucky. ”

        Piper Palin was born into the elite on account of her mom being a former governor and VP candidate, but she’s going to make it into being prole.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • College has become so prohibitively expensive and yet frequently so useless in the job market that what you claim is bound to change.

        The living expenses are a big component of most student loan debt. Tuition is free or almost free via active or reserve military. Or get a job, any job, even the mailroom, at nearly any reputable corporation and take advantage of the tuition reimbursement benefit. Just today, my employer promoted a 30 y/o female into a respectable, well-placed $65K coordinator-type position. She started with the company ten years ago as an $8/hr receptionist, took advantage of the 100% tuition reimbursement, earned her BS, and finished her MBA last week. She’ll be a $150K director-level in five years.

        E. Rekshun

        June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

  20. Lion, you should applaud as a good life choice a person going to a vocational school instead of college. Do we need more college kids from the 50th percentile? Do we need them funding the leftist programs of liberal arts college faculty? Do we want more young people up to their eyeballs in debt when they have little hope of return on investment?

    The Palins are proles, but their refusal to be hoovered up into the education industrial complex is pretty smart.

    DN Poolside

    June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

    • There certainly is a problem with credentialsm, but I doubt Palin and her family are bright enough to understand it. Most likely, Sarah Palin would be happy to send a kid to college, and why would a kid chose to work a crappy job like being a CNA when her millionaire parents are willing to send her to college? Because she lacks the aptitude for it.

      Tanturn

      June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I’m not sure it’s a question of aptitude. The Palin children weren’t raised well. I think it’s more a question of lacking the self-discipline to stick with anything other than a short job- training program. People often forget how much work goes into a BA (even one from a “crappy” school.) Then there’s the income lost when one goes to school full-time.

        Maryk

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Sarah Palin is rich enough to afford to send her kids to the University of Alaska.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 22, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Why would people in Alaska raise their children well? It’s asking the same question of NAMs who live in the inner cities.

        The state ranks #40 in education. And only about 25% of the population actually finish a 4 year college program within the normal time frame.

        JS

        June 23, 2018 at EDT am

      • Maybe some of the Canadian commenters can chime in.

        Manitoba is the worse province in Canada and its major metropolis is Winnipeg, which is considered the most crime ridden city in Canada.

        I can’t imagine this place is worse than Alaska.

        JS

        June 23, 2018 at EDT am

      • And prolier states which tend to be the least intellectual and cosmopolitan, tend have a demographic that lacks a drive or ambition whether to garner status and/or immense wealth. Therefore, the populace appears dullard or laggard and you see it in their education measures. Alaska is a good example and the Palin family fits the profile.

        JS

        June 23, 2018 at EDT am

      • I got this full map that defines the regional culture and political ideologies of North America which includes Canada and Alaska from Jay Man’s blog.

        Alaska shares similar values with the prairie provinces of Canada. Manitoba is comparable to Alaska, but Americans as we know are prolier. Arizona and the Western frontier states are also of the same category known as the Far West region. Manitoba shares more commonality with states like Arizona than Minnesota, despite its close proximity.

        JS

        June 23, 2018 at EDT am

  21. Maybe kid number 5 will go to college…

    Anyway, she isn’t really a nurse. And why are Sarah’s kids all uglier than she is?

    ScarletNumber

    June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Kid number 5 is retarded.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 21, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The girl on the left is cuter

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        June 22, 2018 at EDT am

      • Yes, hence the ellipses at the end of the statement.

        ScarletNumber

        June 22, 2018 at EDT am

  22. “The girl on the left is cuter”

    Check out the tree trunk legs and incipient varicose veins. Tragic on a girl of her age.

    ice hole

    June 22, 2018 at EDT pm


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