Lion of the Blogosphere

Reminder: Jews are smarter because gentiles discriminated against us

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/07/0718_050718_ashkenazim.html

Because Jews were discriminated against in medieval Europe, they were often driven into professions such as moneylending and banking which were looked down upon or forbidden to Christians.

Writing last month in the Journal of Biosocial Science, the researchers said, “For the most part they had jobs in which increased IQ strongly favored economic success, in contrast with other populations, who were mostly peasant farmers. They lived in circumstances in which economic success led to increased reproductive success.”

Historians suggest Jews with lucrative jobs often had four, six, or sometimes eight or nine children. Poorer families, meanwhile, tended to be smaller, possibly because they lived in overcrowded areas of town and children were more prone to disease.

As a result, the researchers say, over hundreds of years European Jews became more intelligent than their gentile countrymen.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

June 27, 2018 at 12:24 PM

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  1. Another theory I read was that all Jews were required to read the Torah during services in the Middle Ages while Christians and Muslims were largely illiterate and required a priest or imam to read the holy books out loud to them. Being able to read in of itself qualified you as a scholar during that time. Any Jews who couldn’t read or catchup in their scholarly studies were likely to convert to the religion outside their ghetto. Thus, Jews kept all the smartest people by evolutionary adaptation.

    Red pill aspie

    June 27, 2018 at 12:35 PM

  2. The Sephardim were often discriminated against in the Muslim world. Why aren’t they smarter?

    Lionel of the Richiesphere

    June 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM

    • Greg Cochran largely covers this in the 10,000 Year Explosion. Sephardim, like their Christendom counterparts, often found themselves in niche jobs. However unlike Ashkenazim, most of these jobs weren’t cognitively loaded. Instead of moneylenders, the archetypical job was craftsmen.

      Doug

      June 27, 2018 at 2:14 PM

    • They’ve higher iq than whites.

      leopard

      June 28, 2018 at 8:43 AM

      • Judaism is a religion not a race. Ashkenazi is an ethnicity with the umbrella of whiteness. Please stop this thing about Jews being a separate race.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 28, 2018 at 8:59 AM

      • Jews from all the diasporas has common genes, not from Africa but from 2000 years ago in Israel, except maybe from the Ethiopians. Yes they were mixed but they do have a distinct ethnic origin. You can easily tell that they are not the same race as the people around them in the countries were they lived for many years. It is an ethno religion.

        Hashed

        June 28, 2018 at 6:37 PM

      • From genetic studies, Ashkenazim are closely related to people of the Eastern Mediterranean.

        JS

        June 28, 2018 at 8:05 PM

      • Jews from all the diasporas has common genes,

        That’s not true.

        According to genetic research from about 10 years ago Persian, Iraqi, and Yemeni Jews, who are among the oldest Jewish populations in the world, have more in common with their surrounding gentile populations than with other Jews.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        June 28, 2018 at 8:33 PM

      • Jews, may not be a race in the same sense as Negroes, but they aren’t a religion – they are a religio-nation. It’s time that you wrap your head around it, Lion.

        Yakov

        June 29, 2018 at 3:10 AM

      • JS, Iraqi Jews are very pure genetically and halachically., hen Ezra ascended to the Land of Israel to rebuild the Temple, he took with him all the Jews with a problematic lineage and inly the ines with a pure lineage were left in Babylonia as the Mishna teaches:

        Ten pedigrees emigrated from Babylonia [to Israel]:
        Priestly, Levitical, [Ordinary] Jewish,
        Invalidated Priestly, Converted, Freed,
        Mamzeric, Nathinitic, Silent Ones and Foundlings.
        Priestly, Levitical and [Ordinary] Jewish
        are permitted to mingle with each other [in marriage];
        Levitical, [Ordinary] Jewish, Invalidated Priestly, Converted and Freed
        are permitted to mingle with each other;
        Converted, Freed, Mamzeric, Nathinitic, Silent Ones and Foundlings
        are permitted to mingle with each other.

        Yakov

        June 29, 2018 at 3:18 AM

      • “Whites” are not a race. For example, Saxons and North Italians are not the same tribe and nor do they have the same IQ.

        The only valid IQ comparison that you would be ale to make between Ashkenazim, for example, and other tribes is with Ashkenazim and other specific tribes. Germany itself is comprised of at least three racially distinct tribes (for the traditional German population). Cousins? Perhaps. But not the same exact racial composition and certainly not the same achievements. Historically, those tribes are the Ingaevones, Istaevones, and Irminones. Now repeat this type of division across the “White” race, and most of it will be far starker than for these three related German tribes.

        IQ is a result of racial composition. It has nothing to do with discrimination. The Sephardim are not smart on the whole because they are a very high Arab racial mix, or in other words a very high hominid admixture.

        There are a lot of smart Jews, and a lot of smart cro magnon (low homind admixture) type gentiles. I’ve noticed a particular type of neurotocism in a lot of smart Jews that inhibits the fruit of their intelligence. High emotion and a mostly unwarranted arrogance. Its difficult for them to grasp that there is a lot that they don’t know, and as a result they make snap judgements that have frequent errors. I also know a lot of well balanced smart Jews that are a credit to their race and whom I consider to be invaluable and irreplaceable people.

        What I am waiting on is the civilizational fruit of the Jews that extends beyond supplementing gentile nations. Yes, doctors, liberal professors, “journalists”, mercantilism, scribes, and value transference. But where is their BMW? Where is their Toyota? Where is their NASA? Where is their Boeing? Where are their completely novel electrical, plumbing, transportation, communications, or other novel tech developments that aren’t supplementary to or improvements on earlier or modern novel inventions? Where are the game changing completely novel developments that do not have to do with weaponry? I heard that there might be one in water accessibility. Good! Now more. Much more, to bring reality to meet the reputation. In government, I see mostly liberal agitation, which is essentially a process of deconstruction.

        I’m a fan of a lot of Jewish people. However, riding the cultural reputation derived from a mostly self-touted meme that Jews are particularly smart wears a bit thin absent a more impactful proof of concept.

        Just to give you the view looking from the outside in.

        Mike

        July 1, 2018 at 12:55 PM

  3. But those jobs have a requisition of higher IQ to begin with.

    Jews have a richer heritage of a vastly advanced literary, and by extension metaphorical, culture birthed out of the radically advanced Mesopotamia. Agriculture was introduced to Europe around the time of the first temple in Israel, for instance.

    Why? The God of Israel, and His activity in the historical development of mankind, is a complex idea. Job was written as a Theodicy approximately 1,500 years before Leibniz struggled with the same.

    The epigenetic impact of culture is continuously ignored despite it arguably being the catalyst for human adaptation since the birth of writing.

    A Dilettante

    June 27, 2018 at 1:00 PM

    • “Agriculture was introduced to Europe around the time of the first temple in Israel, for instance”.

      That is not true. Agriculture has origins in Europe (and Eurasia) thousands of years before Judaism existed. Agriculture in Mesopotamia occurred thousands of years before Judaism existed.

      The God of Israel was mostly synonymous with the God of Canaan. The God of the outer desert was YHWH, and he was also a Canaanite deity. He later came to over-ride Israel-Canaan’s original chief god, probably not until after the Assyrian invasion. This outer desert god even went through a transitionary period where he was the chief god of the large Canaanite pantheon, sharing in his name an attributes, and then finely monetheism was proclaimed. Read any of the central mainstream anthropological books on the matter. This is all very clear. I’m unsure what you mean by “his activity in the historical development of mankind”. He was (is) mostly the God of Judah, full stop. Even Jews believe this.

      Mike

      July 1, 2018 at 1:06 PM

  4. “Driven” in to lucrative jobs? “Discriminated” against because, unlike Christians, their religion didn’t prohibit usury? There are several legitimate examples of historical discrimination against Jewish people (pogroms, prohibitions on land ownership) but having the freedom to participate in highly lucrative career paths is certainly not one of them.

    PerezHBD

    June 27, 2018 at 1:07 PM

    • You don’t seem to be aware of the fact that creditors often defaulted, kings annulled the debts under pressure from the population or due to their own inability to pay, the accounting records were destroyed by the angry mobs, special heavy taxes were imposed on the Jewish communities and the Jewish wealth was lost time and again. When Jews were expelled from their places of residents nobody rushed to pay them what they were owed. This is all so simple and so much a common knowledge that I really, really don’t know why I’m even saying it.

      Yakov

      June 29, 2018 at 3:26 AM

    • Jews were often the middle-men between landlords and serfs in the middle ages. Look to Poland for a clear example. This was a job that was far more lucrative than any available to the common Polish serf.

      Mike

      July 1, 2018 at 1:08 PM

  5. I guess alt-right people will focus on the fact that it’s seems to be OK for a mainstream magazine to write
    about how Jews are smarter then other ethnic groups and how it’s probably a result of genetics and selection, but on the other hand it’s a compactly evil to suggest the same conclusions and explanations about black-white achievement gap.

    eyaldavid

    June 27, 2018 at 1:27 PM

    • I mean, it’s true. Can you imagine a “Why Whites are smarter than blacks” article. And the difference between white and black average IQ is greater than between Jew and (white) Gentile IQ. And I’m sure it’s wrong antisemitism to notice Susan Goldberg is the new editor of national geographic.

      https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/from-the-editor-race-racism-history/

      everybodyhatesscott

      June 27, 2018 at 2:39 PM

      • This article is 13 years old, I don’t know if it would still be allowed. We have become more PC since then, not less.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 27, 2018 at 2:49 PM

      • Yeah, I doubt it would be published in the Current Year.

        fortaleza84

        June 27, 2018 at 7:17 PM

      • To be fair, the article does cite Rushton at the end. But that is what a lot of these types like Steven Pinker are after. “We’re naturally smarter than you goyisher kopfs, but it’s your fault when Blacks do poorly in school.”

        Hwite

        June 27, 2018 at 8:40 PM

      • Wait! This is from 2005! Well they have changed the tune by now. Nice trolling to get a rise out of your readers, Lion.

        Yakov

        June 27, 2018 at 8:42 PM

      • “This article is 13 years old, I don’t know if it would still be allowed. We have become more PC since then, not less.”

        In this case its different cause around that time Richard Lynn published “IQ and the wealth of nations” that got a little of mainstream media coverage .

        eyaldavid

        June 28, 2018 at 10:19 AM

      • “We’re naturally smarter than you goyisher kopfs, but it’s your fault when Blacks do poorly in school.”

        We’re so smart we’ve taken over the white supremacist movement (i.e., Stephen Miller) from the goyisher kopfs who were running it.

        And we’re doing a better job of it than black pill goyim ever did, you should be more grateful for the role Jews have played in immigration policy.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        June 28, 2018 at 8:48 PM

    • Alt-Right people underestimate the role moral authority plays in all of this. By confronting only our white demons over the past 50 years and ignoring our black demons we’ve created a situation where efforts by gentile whites to level the moral playing field by exposing black parasitism or Muslim sexual predations is deemed outside the scope of acceptable discourse. This has to change.

      Curle

      June 28, 2018 at 7:48 PM

  6. You’re welcome.

    destructure

    June 27, 2018 at 1:27 PM

  7. NatGeo goes there! Interesting.

    IHTG

    June 27, 2018 at 1:38 PM

  8. You have the baniya cast in India,who were traders and financier, who have allegedly the highest IQ. It is said that even in Tel Aviv, diamonds are sold by those Indians. They are over represented in the USA and they are the most successful ethnic group having surpassed the Jews in average income. With their black skin, they are able to avoid the discrimination suffered by East Asian and non Jewish whites in the USA.

    Bruno

    June 27, 2018 at 2:18 PM

    • The skin colour of India’s baniya caste is an interesting point, which often gets overlooked or ignored within the HBD community, because it doesn’t neatly fit the HBD construct. Fact is, India’s Baniyas along with many of the country’s other successful and intelligent classes are significantly dark skinned people, comprising a hue which in many cases approaches African skin tones. My own people, the Sikhs are lighter skinned, comparable to average skin tones in the Arab world, but—and this is important—are far less successful than their darker skinned Indian brethren. Tellingly, lighter skinned Sikhs in places like Vancouver have gained the same level of success in criminal enterprises that darker skinned Indians have established in the diamond markets of Tel Aviv and Antwerp.

      Roli

      June 27, 2018 at 4:36 PM

  9. And here I’ve always speculated it was self-selection; the desirability of the more intelligent reinforced by intellectually demanding religious norms. In medieval Christianity, the smart poors could only go into a celibate religious order. Jews, not so much. The rabbi could marry and could have all the kids they wanted.

    Jack Cade

    June 27, 2018 at 2:20 PM

  10. “They lived in circumstances in which economic success led to increased reproductive success.”

    In contrast to contemporary times, in which (at least for Jewish women) economic success leads to reproductive failure.

    sestamibi

    June 27, 2018 at 2:23 PM

    • Today, the poorest people have all the kids they want, and none of them starve to death or die from disease, they all grow up to repeat the cycle.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 27, 2018 at 2:36 PM

      • Oswald Spengler

        June 27, 2018 at 9:15 PM

  11. Your welcome.

    Toad

    June 27, 2018 at 2:36 PM

  12. Not necessarily. The majority of ashkenazi mitochondrial dna comes from european women, whereas paternal dna is traced to the middle east. So a group of smart men from the middle east moved to europe and married gentile european women who converted. Northern europeans have some of the highest IQs of any group which might explain any IQ discrepancy between ashkenazi and sephardics.

    Chances are the women willing to convert were outside the box thinkers which ‘might’ mean they were smarter than average. So perhaps there was a built in litmus test for each marriage. I have no idea how much stigma was involved in marrying a jewish guy 1000 years ago but I doubt it was encouraged. People willing to go against the grain are often more thoughtful or intellectually oriented than strict conformists.

    There is also the issue that judaism has long been a literate religion, whereas christianity was a religion of illiteracy for periods. The catholic church discouraged independent reading of bibles and prohibited secular translations of it. This is why there is so much gorgeous biblical art in cathedrals, it’s how christians ‘read the bible’ back then, by looking at pictures.

    That being said there are other literate religions like islam where you don’t see the same emphasis on intellectualism.

    A lot of talmudic exegesis is based on a logic system of hermeneutics which is to say it’s always been a nerdy, nitpicky, detail obsessed endeavor. I guess the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    Being relegated to accounting degrees probably helped things along but I doubt its the sole answer to ashkenazi IQ.

    toomanymice

    June 27, 2018 at 2:47 PM

    • >>Chances are the women willing to convert were outside the box thinkers which ‘might’ mean they were smarter than average.<<

      Quite likely the first wives of this Ashkenazi community were slaves. There was some cultural event where some Rabbi or Rabbis got together and laid down the law: marry your favorite concubine, convert her, and no more fooling around.

      Daniel

      June 27, 2018 at 3:12 PM

      • That’s kind of funny, like frasier finding out his grandmother was a prostitute. I always wondered how exactly these jewish men managed to marry and convert gentile europeans given that- I assume- the cultures were isolated from and hostile to each other. Whatever the details, it gave the world ashkenazi jews and lots of great chess players.

        toomanymice

        June 27, 2018 at 5:55 PM

    • The women they married were Italians, not north Europeans

      Hashed

      June 27, 2018 at 9:49 PM

  13. Yet somehow this totally true iron clad proven science fact has totally bypassed Israeli Ashkenazi. Lion, what compels you to pretend as though (or is it truly believe) these issues are settled science?

    Magnavox

    June 27, 2018 at 2:55 PM

    • And lion chooses not to accept arguments using the same logic to “prove” that all sorts of negative Ashkenazi traits like ethnocentrism and anti Christian animus are also innate.

      Magnavox

      June 27, 2018 at 3:14 PM

      • Stop it with the “ethnocentric” crap, Jews are the opposite of ethnocentric, they worry way too much about everyone else and sabotage other Jews.

        The most ethoncentric minority in the U.S. are the blacks. Ethnocentrcity is inversely correlated with IQ.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 27, 2018 at 3:34 PM

      • To be fair it’s only the liberal jews who are (suicidally) committed to helping others.

        The ultra orthodox are profoundly ethnocentric and xenophobic.

        toomanymice

        June 27, 2018 at 5:57 PM

      • An ethnocentric group wouldn’t have outmarriage rates of 70% – which is the outmarriage rate for secular, Reform, and Conservative Jews.

        SC

        June 27, 2018 at 6:01 PM

      • ‘negative Ashkenazi traits like ethnocentrism and anti Christian animus are also innate.’

        Don’t make me laugh now. Ethnocentrism is a good thing and traditional Jews have it to the appropriate degree. Obviously, the Jews aren’t the only ones that need to eat. But Lion, being a Jew, has a priority in the food chain compared to you. Everyone has their place under the sun though and I don’t expect you to feel any different towards your kin and kith.

        What’s innate anti-Christian animus? This sounds crazy.

        Yakov

        June 27, 2018 at 6:26 PM

      • Let’s not say ethnocentric, but Jews aren’t foolish to not understand ethnic interests, which still has a role in Jewish survival and wealth accumulation.

        JS

        June 27, 2018 at 6:32 PM

      • Jewish elites would rather hire diversity candidates than other Jews.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 27, 2018 at 7:10 PM

      • “Jewish ethnocentrism” is very different from the low brow type that one finds with gentile proles who come across as parochial and unprogressive. Many Jews are both very cosmopolitan and proud of their ethnicity.

        JS

        June 27, 2018 at 6:35 PM

      • “Many Jews are both very cosmopolitan and proud of their ethnicity.”

        Everyone else is proud of their ethnicity, especially the Italians and Irish and the Puerto Ricans, why shouldn’t Jews also be proud?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 27, 2018 at 7:11 PM

      • I totally reject equating ethnocentrism with ingroup and outgroup marriage behavior. I know many jewish people that married gentiles yet retain an ethnocentric bigoted hatred of white Christians. What other words should I be using to describe the glee and gloating that they use to describe white demographic extermination? And there are lots of afrocentric bigoted black men still date and marry white women, even if that’s something I’m much less familiar with personality.

        Magnavox

        June 27, 2018 at 10:53 PM

      • I don’t know any Jews who hate Christians. I knew older generation Jews who feared Christians or felt discriminated against by gentiles.

      • “Everyone else is proud of their ethnicity, especially the Italians and Irish and the Puerto Ricans, why shouldn’t Jews also be proud?”

        Jews are clearly different in the sense that as a group they are more successful, more educated, most important – more cosmopolitan – making them more diverse as a people, in terms of interests/talents, where as Italians, Irish and Puerto Ricans fit nicely in specific categories.

        JS

        June 27, 2018 at 11:19 PM

      • ‘I don’t know any Jews who hate Christians.’

        Neither do I.

        Yakov

        June 27, 2018 at 11:32 PM

      • Religious Groups’ Ratings of Each Other

        http://www.pewforum.org/2014/07/16/how-americans-feel-about-religious-groups/pf_14-07-16_interreligiousrelations_all/

        Chart shows that jews like themselves more than any other group likes themselves. Chart also shows that jews dislike evangelical christians negligibly more than they dislike muslims. Which I consider odd considering that evangelicals rate jews higher than any other group except themselves. So I’d say there’s probably some prejudice at work.

        destructure

        June 28, 2018 at 1:24 AM

      • Evangelicals actively proselytise

        Yakov

        June 28, 2018 at 8:00 AM

      • Evangelicals actively proselytize to the Jews in a deceptive manner. They would invite you to a perfectly Jewish sounding event and pitch Jesus. This could be a contributing factor. There is a difference between Christians, who generally are ignorant of their religion and only have a vague understanding of it, and Christianity, which is doctrinally hostile to Judaism and Jews.

        You can only pity ignorant and theologically primitive people, who would interpret ideas like ‘love your neighbor’ or ‘turn the other cheek’, which apply to an individual attitude in his heart, as guidelines for foreign policy and extreme self-damaging practical actions. Incidentally, these correct moral principals are common to most religions and there is nothing uniquely Christian about them.

        Yakov

        June 28, 2018 at 8:17 AM

      • Evangelicals actively proselytise

        Catholics and other Protestant denominations we get along fine with.

        The sentiment about Southern Evangelicals is part of a broader phenomena broadly shared by secular Northeastern gentile whites.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        June 28, 2018 at 8:37 PM

      • At least TUJ is honest about his prejudice.

        destructure

        June 29, 2018 at 1:58 AM

      • Yakov —

        I’m not sure there’s any actual data on proselytizing. But I grew up in an area where the largest denominations were evangelical. And, based on my personal experience, most evangelicals don’t actively proselytize. Though some may passively proselytize in the sense that, if you become friends or discuss religion with them, then they might invite you to church. That’s about the extent of evangelical “proselytizing” that I’ve seen.

        The most aggressive proselytizers I know of by far are jehovah’s witnesses and mormons. And neither of them are evangelicals. Those are the ONLY religious people who’ve ever knocked on my door or actively tried to recruit me. Regardless, even the jehovah’s witnesses and mormons don’t harass or trick anyone. That’s just silly. No denomination does that. Denominations attract new members by being nice. And, if you tell them you’re not interested or ask them to leave you alone then they will. But I suspect you’ve never even had the opportunity to tell an evangelical to stop proseltyizing to you.

        PS: I find it ironic for someone who believes in the supernatural to call others “ignorant and theologically primitive people”. Don’t get me wrong. I may not be religions myself but neither am I against religion. I think it’s great for keeping people from doing self-destructive things. But a little humility might be helpful.

        destructure

        June 30, 2018 at 9:43 PM

      • “An ethnocentric group wouldn’t have outmarriage rates of 70% – which is the outmarriage rate for secular, Reform, and Conservative Jews”.

        Not in my network. And I know a lot of reform and conservative Jews. The majority marry Jews.

        Mike

        July 1, 2018 at 1:13 PM

    • I don’t know what lakes you say it. Israeli Ashkenazim excell in all forms of traditional Jewish endeavor and than some.

      Yakov

      June 27, 2018 at 3:17 PM

    • “what compels you to pretend as though (or is it truly believe) these issues are settled science?”

      I’ll answer for him, the rule if parsimony.

      Please, by all means, present us with your general hypothesis of egalitarian outcomes. Gould had one, that genetic mutations take longer to become heritable for populations than the time distance to the out of Africa event. Since then the egalitarian position has been and endless series of exotic untestable propositions. Why not make history and come up with a testable hypothesis? Your side needs one pretty badly about now.

      Curle

      June 27, 2018 at 10:47 PM

  14. Sounds like Lysenkoism. From Wiki:

    Lysenkoism (Russian: Лысе́нковщина, tr. Lysenkovshchina) was a political campaign against genetics and science-based agriculture conducted by Trofim Lysenko, his followers and Soviet authorities. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union’s Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. Lysenkoism began in the late 1920s and formally ended in 1964.

    The pseudo-scientific ideas of Lysenkoism assumed the heritability of acquired characteristics (Lamarckism).[1] Lysenko’s theory rejected Mendelian inheritance and the concept of the “gene”; it departed from Darwinian evolutionary theory by rejecting natural selection.[2] Proponents falsely claimed to have discovered, among many other things, that rye could transform into wheat and wheat into barley, that weeds could spontaneously transmute into food grains, and that “natural cooperation” was observed in nature as opposed to “natural selection”.[2] Lysenkoism promised extraordinary advances in breeding and in agriculture that never came about.

    Joseph Stalin supported the campaign. More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were fired or even sent to prison,[3] and numerous scientists were executed as part of a campaign instigated by Lysenko to suppress his scientific opponents.[4][5][6][7] The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was sent to prison and died there, while scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.[2] Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines was also negatively affected or banned.[8]

    Black Death

    June 27, 2018 at 2:55 PM

    • I have investigated the Neo-Lamarkist claims and believe there is in fact substantial inheritance of acquired traits, and people who fixate on genes and selection are missing a big part of the picture.

      bobbybobbob

      June 27, 2018 at 4:10 PM

    • Many scientists chose to study physics and math over biology because of this affair. That helps explain why the USSR had a strong math/physics culture.

      Ivanthegrozny

      June 27, 2018 at 6:24 PM

  15. My ancestors were so discrimination riddled that they were generally wealthy businessmen. Oh the humanity. We’re it if we had been indentured or enserfed like those lucky average Christians. The mind struggles to find words for how obnoxious and egregious the organizers of the diaspora have become. They turn our proud history of struggle and SUCCESS into a baleful minstrel show.

    Issac

    June 27, 2018 at 3:08 PM

  16. It’s a plausible hypothesis.

    A more interesting question: Why do Jews hate white goys and, at least through their media, seek our genetic eradication via miscegenation?

    My answer: We have the most felicitous combination of beauty, intelligence, and creativity; thus in the sexual arena, man’s most ruthless battlefield, Jews can’t compete with goys. For Jews, high school never ends.

    I’m open to other hypotheses.

    hard9bf

    June 27, 2018 at 3:09 PM

  17. A surprising article from this publication given their recent position on HBD.

    Yakov

    June 27, 2018 at 3:12 PM

    • black n White race discussion in America is so outdated and prole. Immigrants have eclipsed both native blacks n Whites in education and income.

      JS

      June 27, 2018 at 6:26 PM

  18. Gypsies were discriminated against too. Didn’t seem to make them smart,

    Rosenmops

    June 27, 2018 at 3:17 PM

    • Yes but specializing in street begging and pickpocketing wich may not require high IQ to succeed. I would rather say that it requires lower IQ to succeed, maybe that’s why they are the only white people with African IQ level (around 70). It is said that it’s even lower now in Romania and Bulgaria.

      I read that ashkenazim in Israel have only 103 IQ. Maybe Jewish American 110 IQ (120 verbal, 115 math and 95 spatial) is partly a product of migration effect. I read that African migrants in the USA ave an average IQ of 110 with an sd of 20, or 40 points above African average. And Ashkenazim has so many migrations : from Palestine to Rome, then Greece and Venezia, then Mainz and Strasbourg , and then going through east Europe up to Lithuania and south to Odessa in Ukraine. That’s lot of settling before going to the USA …

      Bruno

      June 27, 2018 at 3:52 PM

      • Migration from Europe to the U.S. was difficult back then, so those who migrated were self-selected. We see the same thing today, migrants from India and Africa are both smarter than their countrymen back home.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 27, 2018 at 3:58 PM

      • those who migrated were self-selected.

        Oh so the whole post is wrong and it has nothing to do with the history of discrimination.

        Magnavox

        June 27, 2018 at 6:02 PM

      • Magna, they left Europe because of discrimination. This is very simple.

        Yakov

        June 27, 2018 at 9:21 PM

      • Maybe it is because the ones who immigrated to Israel were more the fighter/explorer types rather than the smart type. But I think the more interesting aspect is not the level of IQ but the level of originality and creativity. Asians have the highest level of IQ but it manifest in a lot of accountants, dentists and mid management type of people. The Jews excelled in everything and created new industries, art forms, science breakthroughs and were cool in general, at least some of them. The Asians in the US are just boring and their IQ is wasted on them. The ones in their original countries are slightly better, like Japan for example at least has a character and brought many interesting things to this world.

        Hashed

        June 27, 2018 at 9:58 PM

      • My point is that Lion is presenting two entirely different theories in the main post and this comment thread. One that they evolved a higher IQ through selective pressure over hundreds of years and one theory that they were just selected for IQ upon immigration. The first theory is pure “just so” speculation and I’m pretty sure the latter theory is essentially impossible.

        Magnavox

        June 27, 2018 at 10:43 PM

      • Mag — In fairness, the theories aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

        destructure

        June 28, 2018 at 1:47 AM

      • I read that ashkenazim in Israel have only 103 IQ.

        In Israel “Ashkenazi” means European Jews generally. Many of those have primarily Eastern European DNA since it only takes 1 Jewish grandparent for an otherwise entirely Slavic immigrant to claim Israeli citizenship.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        June 28, 2018 at 8:40 PM

      • 103 is a very high average IQ. That the number is lower than the 110 numbers that I normally see touted (mostly without citation) makes it more credible. A one point difference in average IQ make a large difference at the long tails of the distribution. Groups that have 103 and 100 averages, respectfully, will be very different. It is very unlikely that any truly large group has an IQ that is much higher than that average. Anything beyond another couple of points would seem rightfully suspicious.

        Mike

        July 1, 2018 at 1:18 PM

  19. A slightly different (but still based on selection) explanation was offered by famous mathematician, Norbert Wiener:

    “Let me insert a word or two about the Jewish family structure which is not irrelevant to the Jewish tradition of learning. At all times, the young learned man, and especially the rabbi, whether or not he had an ounce of practical judgment and was able to make a good career for himself in life, was always a match for the daughter of the daughter of the rich merchant. Biologically this led to a situation in sharp contrast to that of the Christians of earlier times. The Western Christian learned man was absorbed in the church, and whether he had children or not, he was certainly not supposed to have them, and actually tended to be less fertile than the community around him. On the other hand, the Jewish scholar was very often in a position to have a large family. Thus the biological habits of the Christians tended to breed out of the race whatever hereditary qualities make for learning, whereas the biological habits of the Jew tended to breed these qualities in. To what extent this genetic difference supplemented the cultural trend for learning among the Jews is difficult to say. But there is no reason to believe that the genetic factor was negligible. I have talked this matter over with my friend, Professor J. B. S. Haldane, and he certainly is of the same opinion. Indeed, it is quite possible that in giving this opinion I am merely presenting an idea which I have borrowed from Professor Haldane.”

    WRB

    June 27, 2018 at 3:34 PM

    • One might summarize Wiener’s argument by saying that there was a beneficial interaction between culture and genes. A good culture leads to good genes.

      WRB

      June 27, 2018 at 3:46 PM

  20. So smart and yet you never had your own country. Maybe if Jews quit undermining their host countries with immigration, usury, and blood rituals(spirit cooking is a nice example that came out right before the election) then you would not have problems. Most Jewish IQ is directly traceable to this thing called nepotism. So smart.

    NotWesley

    June 27, 2018 at 3:56 PM

    • This is the type of crappy anti-Semitic comments I have to delete day-in day-out. I think it’s time I start banning some commenters.

      Jews had their own country before the Romans conquered them. What’s different about the Jews is they managed to keep their religion and identity and not become absorbed.

      That’s not the case for secular Jews in the U.S., the very Jews you hate, they are being absorbed and will cease to exist as an indentifiable group in another hundred years. In a hundred years, the only Jews will be those guys with beards and hats.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 27, 2018 at 4:02 PM

      • What’s the average.IQ for the Haredi/Hasidim?

        Oswald Spengler

        June 27, 2018 at 4:20 PM

      • Don’t be shocked that the average Haredi/Hasidim is more clever than his neighbor, the White Gentile Hipster in Williamsburg.

        It’s a cultural thing which has a biological basis.

        In our current America, Jews clearly have more privileges/advantages over White gentiles. Some of it was earned and passed on.

        JS

        June 27, 2018 at 6:24 PM

      • At least this is a thread about Jewish people. On Sailer’s blog, there are people who try to make almost every discussion about Jews.

        fortaleza84

        June 27, 2018 at 7:21 PM

      • Which religion/identity? A schism broke the Sons of Abraham into 3 groups. The Pharisees, the Sadducees and the Christians. Sadducees are extinct, Pharisees (rabbinic Jews) put the Talmud above the Torah. The Christians were later converted to Muslims, although some Palestinian Christians still remain.

        Rabbinic Judaism is a new religion, like Christianity, not a continuation of ancient Judaism.

        Mr. Frosty

        June 28, 2018 at 4:40 AM

      • Maybe if Jews quit undermining their host countries with immigration,

        We oppose immigration according to surveys, probably more than ethnic groups like the Swedes.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        June 28, 2018 at 8:44 PM

  21. Does sexual selection have anything to do with this? Gentile women generally select for athletic men with physical prowess, height and muscularity. They don’t care too much how smart the guy is. Jewish women had to choose a Jewish man to mate with and they were smart.

    Jay Fink

    June 27, 2018 at 5:13 PM

    • Jewish parents, not Jewish women were doing the mate selection.

      Yakov

      June 27, 2018 at 9:22 PM

      • Parents always have better taste in mate selection than the women themselves.

        Jay Fink

        June 27, 2018 at 11:56 PM

  22. Modern Jews are directly descended from the Pharisees, who were a splinter group of the priest caste. A small, high-IQ sub-population began a “rootless cosmopolitan” lifestyle and was forced to inbreed since their numbers were so few. This inbreeding further increased the IQ, but also lead to a high prevalence of mental illness and unique genetic disorders.

    Personally, I think Jewish IQ is overstated. Yeshiva school is like a prep course for IQ tests, but since the “information revolution” of the past 30 years or so, the gentiles seem to have caught up. Today even rural gentiles are inundated with information from the internet.

    Mr. Frosty

    June 27, 2018 at 5:59 PM

  23. Discrimination was good for the Jews in many ways. It compelled the Jews from the early childhood to strive for achievement. What was good enough for a Gentile wouldn’t get a Jew anywhere. I was the only Jew in my boxing club and the only one who had to fight both in the ring and in the locker room of my own club. No complaints though, the best fighters were friendly and always shook my hand.

    Yakov

    June 27, 2018 at 8:02 PM

    • That was back in the USSR, obviously. There is no such discrimination in the USA. I hope everybody understands that.

      Yakov

      June 27, 2018 at 8:04 PM

  24. I often wonder how a simple Jew like myself would have survived in those times. Lion, he is smart, so he would be a rabbi or a macher and do ok, but me? I’m glad that I’m living today.

    Yakov

    June 27, 2018 at 8:48 PM

  25. Sorry, that makes no sense.

    The argument, basically, is that Jews were not allowed to be peasants so they became bankers? After all, what is this “discrimination” that led them into these lucrative, high-paying professions? In what were they being discriminated against?

    map

    June 28, 2018 at 1:06 AM

    • The historical reality was that Jews couldn’t own land, be members of guilds and practice crafts, attend university or have an academic or a military career. This left them with very limited opportunities in the fields not desired by or forbidden to the surrounding population.

      Yakov

      June 28, 2018 at 8:38 AM

      • “The historical reality was that Jews couldn’t own land, be members of guilds and practice crafts, attend university or have an academic or a military career. This left them with very limited opportunities in the fields not desired by or forbidden to the surrounding population.”

        Exactly, thank you Yakov.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 28, 2018 at 8:57 AM

      • > The historical reality was that Jews couldn’t own land

        Not true.

        bobbybobbob

        June 28, 2018 at 10:55 AM

      • They didn’t let me be a serf so I had to become a banker instead. How sad!

        Jimi

        June 28, 2018 at 10:13 PM

      • Jimi, it should be obviously that banking and other services available in the middle ages weren’t sufficient to honorably employ most of the nation. The comparation isn’t with the serfs, obviously, because why would Jews be serfs? It’s with the free classes of the society. This is so simple that I have no idea why I’m even saying it.

        Yakov

        June 29, 2018 at 3:04 AM

      • Yakov,

        “The historical reality was that Jews couldn’t own land, be members of guilds and practice crafts, attend university or have an academic or a military career. This left them with very limited opportunities in the fields not desired by or forbidden to the surrounding population.”

        Most people could not own land because the land was owned by the nobility. Most people could not join guilds because apprenticeships depended on knowing someone to get in if your father was not already in the profession. Most people did not attend university and most people did not have an academic or military career.

        So, because the jews did not get immediate entry into the highest echelons of society they were discriminated against?

        Doesn’t sound right when you think about it.

        map

        June 29, 2018 at 3:40 PM

      • Jews were discriminated against by Christians. The concept of freedom of religion until the enlightenment. Jews were prohibited from many different trades and from owning land.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 29, 2018 at 3:55 PM

      • Jimi, it’s not a brand new story, you know. Do you think that the Egyptians had acted unreasonably? Why do you think so?

        The Book of Shemot (Exodus):
        Shemot: Table of Contents
        1:1 Now these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt; every man and his household came with Jacob.

        1:2 Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah, 1:3 Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin, 1:4 Dan, and Naphtali, Gad, and Asher.

        1:5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.

        1:6 And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation.

        1:7 And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.

        1:8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

        1:9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: 1:10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.

        1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

        1:12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew.

        And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.

        1:13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour: 1:14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

        Yakov

        June 29, 2018 at 6:16 PM

      • Yet Jews mostly run any remnant of guilds today, and have since a least the renaissance in Europe. How does that work?

        Mike

        July 1, 2018 at 1:22 PM

  26. Any advice for those that aren’t apart of the master race?

    Ronald McDonald

    June 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM

    • Marry a nice Jewish girl?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 28, 2018 at 6:29 AM

      • Except that the commenters on LOTB seem to think that Jewish woman are materialistic, pushy, and unattractive. This is not an assessment that I agree with, but still it’s made quite often.

        The thing to do if you like any trait of an ethnic group or race you aren’t part of is to improve yourself and those in your own group by adopting that trait and trying to promote it in-group. Trying to join someone else’s ethnicity is a mistake. It often produces confused and bitter children. I’d give anything to be Italian on both sides instead of Italian and Irish. And this makes no sense because there’s a lot about Nordic culture that I do like. My motto is “Keep life simple” (i.e. stay with your own kind.)

        maryk

        June 28, 2018 at 10:03 AM

      • In reality, Jewish women are a rare topic of discussion on this blog, besides Catherine Rampell and Toby Milstein, the latter being more agreeable to men, because she isn’t a career striver.

        JS

        June 28, 2018 at 11:27 AM

      • Toby is a “director” at some startup that sells single-purpose ipad-like things that don’t do anything besides display photos.

  27. The Jewish Ron Unz proved that Jews are in Harvard at greater percentages than they should be, even considering IQ. Google the article to see.

    Return of Shawn

    June 28, 2018 at 1:23 AM

    • It has been explained here many times before the Unz used bogus methodologies. As another commenter explained, “Unz is wrong as demonstrated by Gelman. Unz used two different methods of counting Jews – a stingy method for measuring academic achievement and a generous method for representing representation in the Ivy League. Once you make it an apples-to-apples comparison, the disparity disappears.”

      For example, there is a MASSIVE difference between Unz who says that Jews are supposedly 25% of Harvard, and the actual Harvard incoming students survey showing that Jews are only 7.7%, which would mean that Jews are underrepresented at Harvard and still discriminated against them: https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2017/12/31/does-harvard-still-have-jewish-quotas/

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 28, 2018 at 6:50 AM

  28. Harlan Ellison, Provocative Sci-Fi Writer of ‘Star Trek,’ ‘A Boy and His Dog,’ Dies at 84

    Born in Painesville, Ohio, Ellison grew up in the only Jewish family in a small town where he said he had to defend himself in physical altercations on a daily basis.

    MEH 0910

    June 28, 2018 at 6:32 PM


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