Lion of the Blogosphere

Kudos to Trump administration on breastfeeding

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The notion that breastfeeding benefits IQ has been debunked. This is what I previously wrote on this topic:

Der, Batty and Deary study

The Der, Batty and Deary study uses data from the 1979 National Longitudinal Survey of Youth. It looks at the children of participants in that study, who were tested between the years of 1986 and 2002, so these children were fed formula before supplementation of infant formula with DHA and ARA fatty acids (which are supposed to better duplicate the effect of human breast milk) were available in the United States.

The Der, Batty and Deary study notes the major confounding factor in breast-feeding analyses is that women who breastfeed are usually of higher intelligence and social class than those who don’t breastfeed. In the NLSY79 data, breastfeeding mothers scored about one standard deviation higher on the Armed Forces Qualifying Test (AFQT).

A multiple regression analysis of the NLSY79 data, which includes 5475 children, shows that breast feeding has no statistically significant impact on children’s cognitive assessments. Factors having the strongest correlations with children’s cognitive assessments are the mother’s AFQT score, the HOME cognitive stimulation score (which is probably a good surrogate for the father’s IQ and a host of other socioeconomic factors), and strangely enough, birth order.

The study also did an analysis of 332 sibling pairs where one was breastfed and the other was not. The results show that the formula-fed sibling had an IQ that was 0.63 points higher than the breastfed sibling. The authors didn’t bother to point out that this result was the opposite of the expected pattern. The P value is 0.506, so the authors probably figured this is just a statistically insignificant fluke and not worth mentioning.

There is additional evidence in the study, beyond what I’ve written about here, confirming the conclusion. Based on the Der, Batty and Deary study, I am convinced that the hypothesis that breast feeding causes higher IQ has been proven false. The cause and effect go the other way. Breast feeding predicts having parents with higher IQs and higher socioeconomic status.

Probably, any other alleged benefits of breastfeeding are distorted by the same biases, that is that breastfeeding has become highly desired by high-IQ high-social-class mothers, while formula is now primarily used by the lazy poor.

So I give kudos to the Trump administration for sticking up for formula feeding . Only Trump can stand up to the SJWs on junk science like breastfeeding and global warming.

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Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

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  1. That breastfeeding is preferable is not junk science. In poor countries women can’t afford the formula so they water it down, and the water is often contaminated. It is appalling to encourage formula feeding in 3rd world countries.

    I always assumed the IQ data was because smarter women were choosing to breastfeed. But there are many advantages of breastfeeding in first world countries too. For one thing it is just much easier and more convenient, cheaper, diapers don’t stink (until baby starts solids). Breastfed babies get less infections and allergies.

    Rosenmops

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • It was a disgusting cave in to greed.

      Lion looks at the world in a very skewed way.

      gothamette

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  2. I was bottle-fed and turned out dumb, dumb, dumb. No mechanical ability, no math ability, can’t speak metaphorically. Fittingly, I turned out to be good at self-denial, so I have no addictions.

    Department 11

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Being good at self-denial is a trait that millions of people would envy you for. A genius with no self-control wouldn’t be able to accomplish much.

      Maryk (the g-loaded Guidette)

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  3. Most baby formula is made with Soy. It might not effect IQ, but pumping children full of Soy seems like a terrible idea.

    everybodyhatesscott

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • This is misleading. Baby formula uses cow milk as the source for protein and carbohydrates, while a blend of vegetable oils are used for the fat content.

      Children are not being “pumped full of soy.”

      • while a blend of vegetable oils are used for the fat content

        That’s enough to keep my hypothetical future kids away from it. As an Adult, I try to stay away from vegetable oils and soy as much as possible. They’re not good for you.

        everybodyhatesscott

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • When did vegetable oils become the new dietary boogeyman? I can’t mention veg oils on reddit without getting multiple encyclopedic length screeds on their wickedness. I’m not talking about crisco or anything, but olive, canola and soybean oil. Which I use to make scrambled eggs, and I’m still alive.

        toomanymice

        July 10, 2018 at EDT am

      • Soy, especially soybean oil, contains phytoestrogens called isoflavones that may mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in your body. It’s also associated with causing thyroid issues.

        The “traditional” methods of consuming soy generally involve consuming it in very small quantities as a condiment, and even those methods the soy is sprouted AND fermented which mitigates most of the problematic issues.

        Olive oil = good in almost any quantity (although heating at high heat denatures the omega 3 fat and basically removes the health benefit

        Canola oil = We already get too much omega 6 fat in our diet + the manufacturing process basically converts any of the omega 3 into trans fats. Using canola oil causes chronic inflammation which in turn increases your LONG TERM chances of heart attacks

        Soy oil = Hormonal & Goitrogenic effects. Postulated that girls getting their periods MUCH earlier may be in part due to the amount of soy oil in modern diets (pumping them full of estrogen mimicking compounds.

        None of the oils are going to kill you short term… but we are certainly starting to learn that vegetable oils aren’t as healthy as we were being told in the 90’s

        Use Tallow/Lard/Butter/Ghee in your cooking whenever possible (coconut oil when the flavour is right)

        marcks

        July 10, 2018 at EDT am

      • “Soy, especially soybean oil, contains phytoestrogens called isoflavones that may mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in your body.”

        This is false, soybean oil does not contain isoflavones, only soy flesh and soy protein has those.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  4. Another thing, breastfeeding usually delays the return of fertility. Thus it will lower the birth rate in 3rd world countries where people apparently aren’t using birth control.

    Rosenmops

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Unlikely. Breastfeeding means that women have to drop out of school or the labor force. The biggest factor affecting fertility rates is female education and workforce participation.

      Doug

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Mothers with babies aren’t going to working outside the home no matter how they feed the baby.

        Rosenmops

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • *I meant mothers in Africa.

        Rosenmops

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  5. 100% agree, Lion. In addition, it’s now become relatively common for newborns to die because of fanatical breastfeeding propaganda. One of the major requirements for labor and delivery units is making sure that no more than a small fraction of newborns are ever fed formula. However not every mom can produce enough milk, it’s just a basic biological fact.

    Doctors and nurses will relentlessly pressure new mothers to keep breastfeeding, even if the baby’s weight is plummeting. Some even go so far to explicitly refuse any request for formula or bottles. Not that they need to often since most women have already completely internalized the propaganda by the time they get to the birthing day. Consequently, it’s increasing common for newborn babies to die on the altar of SWPL Gaia-ism.

    What also gets ignored is just important formula is for women’s rights. Especially in the third world, where mothers simply don’t have the option to take maternity leave or pump and refrigerate breastmilk. Exclusive breastfeeding condemns women to drop out of work or school and be completely dependent on their husbands, brothers and fathers. Needless to say in backwards cultures like those found in Africa, the Islamic world and Hindustan, this is a recipe for abuse, exploitation, and underdevelopment.

    Doug

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “However not every mom can produce enough milk, it’s just a basic biological fact.”

      Think about evolution. It a significant number of mothers couldn’t produce enough milk the human race would have died out.

      Producing milk is based on supply and demand, The more milk the baby takes, the more milk the breasts produce, Once mothers start giving formula, the baby takes less milk from the breasts, so they produce less milk. Giving formula causes the mother to not produce enough milk.

      Furthermore, it is normal for babies to lose 7% – 10% of their birth weight and to regain their birth weight within 10 to 14 days.

      Rosenmops

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I had unexplained low supply with my third child and delayed supply (about 5-7 days after birth) with others. It definitely does happen. Back in the day I guess a sister or cousin could step in to help nurse. My third child refused formula (that’s another problem, once a baby gets used to one method they will refuse the other) so I fed her sips of water off a spoon and got her on cow’s milk as soon as she would take it. She was barely 12 pounds at a year old… scary stuff.

        toomanymice

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I successfully breast fed two children. For the third one, my milk dried up after six weeks. I switched to formula, and we (baby and I) were both happy. But the breast feed Nazis were furious, and tried to make me feel ashamed.
        Trying to breast feed when your body can’t do it is torture for both mother and baby. There IS a place for formula, unless you want to condemn some babies to die.

        amused observer

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • > It a significant number of mothers couldn’t produce enough milk the human race would have died out.

        Infant mortality rates among hunter-gatherers are 50% or higher. Evolution obviously places low-value on making sure every baby survives. If one in forty moms can’t breastfeed, it would barely budge the numbers. But in the post-industrialized world, where more than 199 out of 200 babies survive, mandated breastfeeding would easily result in infant mortality rates quintupling.

        In addition, it may even be evolutionarily advantageous for mothers not to produce milk at certain times. If the body thinks the baby is particularly weak, or there aren’t enough nutrients to support the baby, then optimal Darwinian strategy is to avoid wasting precious resources on a low-probability offspring. This isn’t just speculation, many mammals actually eat the runts of their liter.

        Moreover wild humans live in large tribes, where at any given point multiple women are likely to be nursing at any given time. In addition hunter-gatherer culture is highly egalitarian, and refusing to share resources with fellow tribe members is heavily discouraged. Wet nursing has existed from time immemorial. So even the inability to produce any milk doesn’t guarantee the baby will die.

        Doug

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • [If the body thinks the baby is particularly weak, or there aren’t enough nutrients to support the baby, then optimal Darwinian strategy is to avoid wasting precious resources on a low-probability offspring.]

        That’s fascinating. The daughter I had chronic and unexplained low supply for has always been physically weak/ sickly and nearly died of asthma age 4. She spent two weeks in ICU and another two weeks in the regular world before she returned to the land of the living.

        toomanymice

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • ward not world

        toomanymice

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I have cumulatively breastfed about… 10.6 years over 8 children (12 to 18 months apiece). By the time I had my youngest (2014) there was HUGE pressure to breastfeed in the hospital. He was just shy of 5 weeks premature, and I don’t know if due to this but there was nothing and I do mean nothing coming out of my boobs. I asked the nurses shouldn’t I give him some formula or sugar water pending my having milk? NO! Finally after more than 24 hours of the scrawny thing alternating between piteous sobs and droopy lethargy I quietly pleaded with a haitian NA to please get me some formula. She sighed and said thank god, I was hoping you would ask. She snuck me formula around the clock. One time an RN walked in and snatched the bottle out of my son’s mouth and scolded me it would inhibit my milk supply (uh, what milk supply?).

      I initially chose to breastfeed because I believed the hype about developmental benefits but eventually realized the studies were flawed. By that point it was what I was accustomed to doing so I kept going with future children. Also it’s free, assuming the mother isn’t abstaining from paid work to accommodate nursing.

      If there is any benefit to breastfeeding, it’s probably to the mother. It does appear to be preventative to breast cancer, and at least with some women helps with weight loss. Also works as a natural birth control method which protects the mother from closely clustered births.

      In the third world formula is very dangerous for reasons other commenters have indicated.

      toomanymice

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “However not every mom can produce enough milk, it’s just a basic biological fact.”

      After my wife had her scheduled c-section (transverse kid), a lactation specialist that we hadn’t requested and didn’t know was coming visited us in her hospital room. The pressure to breastfeed was intense and she stayed a couple of extra days in the hospital while they tried to work everything out. It never worked out and about 24 hours after we got the kid home, he was back in the hospital–in the infant ICU no less–after a bilirubin test came back too high. They zapped him with artificial sunlight and he was home in 24 hours, but the whole ordeal was a nightmare.

      When we got to the pediatrician for the kid’s first checkup, things got even more annoying. We saw another lactation specialist that we hadn’t requested before we met the pediatrician, and she tried to make my wife feel bad for only being able to provide about half of our son’s diet with breast milk. She went on and on about different techniques she could use to increase her milk production, and then she mentioned the importance of breastfeeding and IQ.

      This was in 2014 and I’d been reading about IQ for 3 or 4 years. When I told the lactation specialist that I thought she was wrong and was confusing correlation for causation, she snidely asked me about my educational background. I forget how exactly how I replied because I was livid, but I wasn’t polite and sort of wish I’d said something about her being a nurse.

      We never saw her or another lactation specialist again and my wife continued to breastfeed for a year, but we also gave the kid all the formula he could drink.

      I agree with the other commenters who’ve mentioned the heath benefits of breastfeeding. They seem minor but statistically significant: fewer ear infections, colds, etc.

      Horace Pinker

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  6. I agree with you on nearly everything, but your opinion on this is rather foolish. I’m very surprised actually. Breastfeeding is obviously much better for a child. It goes further than just IQ as well, bone growth, likelihood of developing future diseases, untold other things they’d never test, etc. Also, if you think about it, it’s obvious. How can giving a baby some man made formula be as good as nature. Babies hate formula! Also, there’s the influence of the entire formula industry to consider.

    Bee

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I agree. Lion has got the wrong end of the stick on this one.

      Rosenmops

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “influence of the formula industry”

      Yeah, why is no one saying this?

      Surely the Trump approach here is motivated by lobbying from some formula exporter. Otherwise who cares what Ecuador’s opinion is about breastfeeding? Of course I have to think that Ecuador is motivated at least partly by improving its balance of payments by having its women use their own milk instead of paying hard currency for U.S.-made formula.

      Doug above is correct though that many women don’t produce enough milk, so there’s nothing wrong with using formula to supplement that and ensure baby gets enough nutrition.

      Why don’t women produce enough milk though? Is it that Europeans have been supplementing breast milk for some time? Or something in the mother’s diet? Otherwise insufficient milk production would be tantamount to infertility and should be just as rare, a result of disease or mutation, but anecdotally it seems much more common.

      Wency

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • no one saying it? That was the entire analysis of the Fortune article….

        Lion o' the Turambar

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Agreed – IQ isn’t the only reason to breastfeed. Immune system support alone is a major reason my wife goes through the pain-in-the-butt process of pumping 7 times a day. And we don’t have to pay a dime.

      Baron

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • If you buy powdered formula in bulk it comes out to $1/day in cost. Even at minimum wage, you’re almost certainly spending more in the value of your wife’s time than you ever would on easy, nutritious formula.

        Doug

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • When my wife and I had our first son we were all aboard the breastfeeding bandwagon. But then she didn’t produce milk/or he didn’t take the milk. He cried for hours on end and had crystals in his urine for 3 weeks before we changed to formula. It was much better for us, and it might be in general better to breastfeed you can’t ignore that formula is a very important and useful tool. The hospital and doctor were useless, just support breastfeeding mindlessly even though we were clearly having problems.

      This seems to have become a political issue like climate change. Mothers are fierce about the issue on both sides.

      XVO

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Same for us. What a relief and joy it was to see our new baby girl quickly drain that bottle of formula! I’ll always be thankful to the nurse who finally slipped us some. As for convenience, formula has some advantages. Just put the powder and a bottle of water in a pack and you are ready to go. No need for refrigeration or pumping, and either parent or family member can do the feeding.

        Steverino@Steverino.com

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I don’t think it is political, at least not among parents. Mothers of all political persuasions, from conservative Christians to SJW earth mother hippy types, are likely to enthusiastically support breastfeeding. More likely the parents’ opinions are based on their own experience. If a mother has a hard time with breastfeeding that will turn parents against it.

        I believe there are some mothers who can’t produce enough milk, but I would think this would be quite rare. Often the problem is that baby isn’t latching on properly for one reason or another. It would be interesting to compare data about the percent of mothers who can’t produce enough milk today, compared to, say, 150 years ago when no safe formula was available. And to know what percent of mothers got someone else to breastfeed their child 150 years ago.

        Rosenmops

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. I agree that much of the results is probably skewed by self-selection ie women with higher IQ choosing to breastfeed because they think it’s moire natural, healthy, etc. But does that make them wrong? I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong with breastfeeding. Until the issue is fully understood and settled, it only makes sense to err on the side of caution which is breastfeeding.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131106202408.htm

    destructure

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  8. I’m not an expert, but from what I understand, breastfeeding allows the mother to pass some immunities on to the child. Also, it’s reasonable to hypothesize that formula is missing a couple minor but sonewhat significant components.

    I don’t think it’s necessary to be a fanatic about it, but I do think women should try to at least partially breast feed for the first few weeks.

    As others have pointed out, it’s also more convenient and makes diaper changing easier.

    fortaleza84

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  9. I’ve always considered this hypothesis to be bullshit. Reminds me of the studies which “prove” spanking lowers IQ.

    That said, breastfeeding has other benefits. Breast milk passes the mother’s antibodies to the baby for instance.

    As for nutritional quality it depends on the formula. Here’s a link to the “best” (per marketing claims) that Gerber offers: https://www.gerber.com/products/formula-products/product/gerber-good-start-gentle-powder-formula/15

    Nutrient profile is fairly similar to breastmilk. The use of vegetable oils is unfortunate given what’s emerging about them, but the negative consequences of vegetable oil take a long time to manifest. The kid could grow up to consume butter and olive oil instead and suffer no harm. And it’s not like most American adults are avoiding vegetable oils.

    Lots of crappier products are available of course, but generally as long as the baby isn’t starved of calories or critical nutrients it’s not the end of the world.

    I agree with Trump’s recent tweet that while breastfeeding is best, formula should be available as some people need it.

    Thorfinnsson

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  10. Maybe babies enjoy breastfeeding. My dog enjoys belly rubs. I can’t imagine the appeal, nevertheless . . .

    Curle

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  11. I think there are benefits to breastfeeding in passing on immune system strength. Trust me, I am a professional boobologist.

    Joe

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  12. libertarians breast fed themselves in a log cabin they built themselves.

    HBD tears

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • socialists probably think big-boobed women are greedy and hoarding all the milk.

      destructure

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  13. There once was a lad from Moline,
    Who was weaned at the age of nineteen.
    Said he, “I’ll admit
    There’s no milk in the tit,
    But think of the fun that it’s been!”

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • To make this limerick complete, there needs to be a YouTube video of an average-looking woman shooting a gun, and a complaint about what women are shaving.

      • God damn it, 95% of women are shaved!

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  14. Lion is correct here. Beyond the putative IQ benefits, all the other breastfeeding advantages disappear when you look at sibling pairs, where one was breastfed and the other wasn’t. This 2014 study proves that quite convincingly:
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/02/27/breast_feeding_study_benefits_of_breast_over_bottle_have_been_exaggerated.html
    It’s a pure virtue-signaling thing: “Me? Use chemical formula created by an evil multinational? On *my* precious baby? Never!”
    That said, some commenters here have pointed out that in the developing world, formula-feeding leads to mothers using dirty, unsafe water, which is obviously bad. But it’s not the fault of the formula manufacturers if their customers use the product incorrectly.

    Brarry

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • It wasn’t virtue signalling for me when I breastfed my firstborn in 1977. Few thought it was virtuous back then.

      Rosenmops

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  15. Formula is like McD meal. Not particularly good, but popular, so it wins in the end.

    My 2¢

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  16. Last time I crossed back and forth between China and Hong Kong there were signs banning the transport of formula because a Chinese factory had been poisoning the formula to save money.

    Stilicho

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  17. The obvious conclusion is that the Trump Administration is simply incredibly corrupt and available to help the highest bidder no matter how bad it makes the administration look. If you admire Trump’s amorality and brazenness, fine. But trying to defend the actual policy will just make you look foolish.

    Peter Akuleyev

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I think Trump has made a mistake here. But If I was an American I would still vote for him because of immigration.

      Rosenmops

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  18. Fuck this silly shit.

    It’s embarrassing the Trump admin threatened countries because they pushed breastfeeding.

    Fuck this crony corporatist bullshit. fuck the morons who think it’s not the fault of formula manufacturers that are pushing formula in shitholes that obviously can’t manage it correctly. These people are smarter than that, just like advertising cigarettes in poor countries, they don’t give a damn because it’s profitable.

    I support Trump on immigration which is the most important issue, but I’m not gonna suck his dick for the other half hundred shitty ideas.

    Kaz

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  19. This is very simple. Say you have a glass of formula and a glass of breast milk with you and nothing else, which one would you rather drink, Lion?

    Yakov

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Are you a pervert or something? Who drinks breast milk from glass?

      My 2¢

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Are you a a pervert or something? As a child, obviously.

        Yakov

        July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  20. Obviously you are wrong on this one.

    Breast milk has pro and pre biotic properties that help the babies immune system function normally. This is a huge deal as so many conditions revolve around inflammation which can be affected by not being breast fed.

    That is nothing a baby formula can replicate. Not yet anyway.

    Jeff

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  21. One interesting thing I learned in medical school, one of those things you would never otherwise have thought of, is that one of the reasons the lazy poor use formula instead of breastfeeding is that ghetto teen babymommas think breastfeeding is gross. They think of their breasts as sexual organs, and think it’s weird, like incestuous almost, to have their own baby to suck at their breasts.

    Hermes

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  22. You do know that DT has a ‘thing’ about body fluids especially female ones. Jus sayin’.

    IMO, the greatest benefit is to the mom, who finds nursing relaxing and sleep inducing. Sometimes her only excuse to sit or better lay down. I nursed my 5 for at least a year and was so grateful not to deal with bottles in the middle of the night. By #3 the baby slept with me and it was all very pleasant and easy.

    Newyorker

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “IMO, the greatest benefit is to the mom, who finds nursing relaxing and sleep inducing. Sometimes her only excuse to sit or better lay down. I nursed my 5 for at least a year and was so grateful not to deal with bottles in the middle of the night. By #3 the baby slept with me and it was all very pleasant and easy.”

      Same for me, but I only had 4. It is relaxing and sleep inducing for the baby as well.

      Rosenmops

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  23. Babies get antibodies from their mothers in utero. Between three months and six months after birth, the benefit has faded somewhat while the baby’s own immune system hasn’t gotten up to speed. During that window, breastfed babies may benefit from antibodies in breast milk. Not a big deal in my opinion.

    Breast milk varies a lot. It depends on the health of the mother, her nutrition, her genes, and many other factors. Are all variations ideal? How is that possible? Are they all better than formula?

    More than half of the formula in the USA is paid for by the government via welfare. Of course formula is correlated with poor student performance.

    Steverino@Steverino.com

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  24. Feminists are motivated to be both for and against breastfeeding. They like the idea of breastfeeding in public to make people uncomfortable, but they want formula to be viewed as equally good for the child so that breastfeeding as much as possible isn’t a moral responsibility.

    Perturabo

    July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  25. http://www.health.com/oral-health/breast-feeding-may-have-dental-benefits-study-suggests

    Breast feeding teaches correct natural breathing, which improves dental health and allows the baby to grow a strong jawline like Chad and Stacy.

    Focusing just on IQ is virgin speak.

    Anonymous Fake

    July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  26. Breastfeeding may be oversold in its benefits, but there is one where it is absolutely superior to formula: it is free. A second is that it is convenient; baby literally just draws on the tap. Public breastfeeding is a major culture wars issue driven by (as YeyoZa would have pointed out) female intrasexual competition. Making it harder for other women to shame breastfeeding moms is a good thing.

    JayMan

    July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  27. We used formula on both of our kids. My wife hated breastfeeding.

    After our second child, our daughter, was born, I went to Walmart to get formula and diapers and some other stuff. Wife was still in hospital with daughter. They were out of the expensive brand-name formula, so I got the Walmart brand, because I needed something.

    We ran out of the Walmart brand after a week or so, but by then I had gotten the good stuff. First bottle of the expensive stuff, and my daughter wouldn’t eat it, and would scream. I put the old cheap Walmart stuff in the bottle, and she drank it right up.

    From then on, it was all Walmart crap which was like 40% cheaper. It hasn’t applied to other stuff in her life though…

    GMR

    July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  28. WIC promotes breast-feeding, no doubt because it saves money on formula.

    Sheila Tone

    July 11, 2018 at EDT pm


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