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Proles love America

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I was in Staten Island this weekend, and there were American flags everywhere. Yes, it was the end of July 4th week, so people were being extra patriotic, but back in Manhattan there are no flags anywhere. Except one building with two flags on top of it, but I am sure that a prole superintendent placed them there.

Proles love America. Elites love being elite. Liberal elites hate America because they believe that America is a racist country, and racism is the most evil thing in the world.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 9, 2018 at EDT am

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  1. what I don’t get is why dissident white males love america, the police and the military…the establishment discriminates against white males…why love institutions that discriminate against you?
    Just common sense…

    anon

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Indeed, it’s the elites and rich people who should love the country that made them elite and rich, while the proles who got the short end of the stick should hate America.

      • Proles don’t *want* to be elite. They have no respect for the elite and a lot of respect for proles. They also don’t see themselves as getting the short end of the stick.

        CamelCaseRob

        July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • They also don’t see themselves as getting the short end of the stick.

        That’s a big problem and it relates to lion’s point. Elites know a lot about other countries and america’s relative shortcomings, while proles know nothing but the pro american propaganda they’ve been fed.

        Magnavox

        July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • No, I mean they don’t see working in prole jobs as something “bad” or something they should be resentful for. They consider this their natural lot in life.

        CamelCaseRob

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • They should be pissed or that their wages haven’t increased in 40 years. And many of them could be doing something higher up the SES ladder if society were more meritocratic and they should be pissed about that too.

        Proles that live in contact with blacks are often duly pissed about those issues.

        Magnavox

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I don’t think the idea that the establishment discriminates against white males has permeated the culture because the establishment consists of…white males. When we’ve reached the point that no Democratic candidate for President can be a white male then maybe the idea will start picking up traction.

      Mike Street Station

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • We may have reached the point that no Democratic presidential ticket can be headed by a white male as early as the 2020 election.

        Oswald Spengler

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I’m hoping.

        Mike Street Station

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Older white proles show patriotism for an America of the past; a place where they could earn a living and raise a family in peace.

      I suppose that can still be celebrated. But yes, dissident white males should show no patriotism to a country that imports endless illegals to unemploy and displace him, a military that uses him as cannon fodder for the interests of others, and whose media is a gutter whose main theme is white male loathing amongst other lies and depravity.

      fakeemail

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Correct, this seems like a good story to prove your point.

      It took proles in uniform to clean up Manhattan where some of them had to die, so SWPLs can live in their luxurious safe spaces. No sympathy here, because society is about the more intelligent exploiting the less intelligent, and it will continue to be like this, until full automation comes into full force, by that time, many of America’s less desirable would’ve been all dead.

      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/he-responded-to-a-report-of-an-officer-down-then-he-learned-it-was-his-brother/ar-AAzMJcx?ocid=ientp

      9-11 also once again proves your point, how countless number of fire fighting and police patrolling proles die in Twin Towers for the sake of…

      JS

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • JS. Firefighters and cops die because it’s a hazardous job. They get well compensated for it too. Great pension and retirement benefits.

        mpt

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • My life is too precious to engage in a risky occupation for money.

        Do you want to end your life during your prime and not because of suicide?

        JS

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “dissident white males” don’t love America, they hate it. Proles aren’t dissident.

      gothamette

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I don’t hate America. I do despise what America has become in recent years and want no part of it.

        Oswald Spengler

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I feel your pain. But don’t go overboard. I’ve read nasty things on alt-right sights slighting the bravery of the Allied soldiers on D-day. Fuck these bastards.

        gothamette

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  2. Lion: what do you think about the cognitive dissonance in this thread?

    https://www.resetera.com/threads/92-year-old-man-jumped-and-beaten-with-a-brick-for-bumping-into-child.54204/

    if the Left is forced to take sides in the squabbling between their victim groups, which side will they pick?

    Otis the Sweaty

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Nothing about the race of the perps, who are surely black, but looks like the morons at Resetera think the perps are white.

      • at first they did because they really are that delusional, but now they have realized that the perps are black and are still siding with the immigrant.

        Otis the Sweaty

        July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • Well he was just legally walking around his neighborhood, of course you should side with him over a violent mob.

        So did you secretly start that thread with a fake identity?

  3. Proles love America because America wins, and Proles like identifying with a winner. I mean, everybody likes identifying with a winner but Proles generally don’t get to identify with their exclusive college, their amazing tech firm, their country club or their expensive cool hobby. Or being part of a tribe with 5000 years of tradition. The best thing in a lot of poor people’s lives is the fact that they are white Americans. What else are they going to take pride in? Maybe a sports team, but that is kind of artificial.

    Peter Akuleyev

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Instead of “best thing”, I should have written “highest status”.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • “Or being part of a tribe with 5000 years of tradition.”

      Instead they identify with a religion that has only 2000 years of tradition, but is an offshoot of that other tribe with allegedly “5000 years” of tradition but archaeologically more like only 2500 years. (Dates in the Bible are false, you know.)

    • American citizenship is in strictly rational terms one of, if not the most, valuable things a prole has. But realistically America stopped winning 50 years ago.

      Magnavox

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • The elite certainly stopped viewing proles as fellow citizens decades ago. The elite now views the white working class as a crude embarrassment to be shunned at best or a retrograde scourge to be mercilessly ground down and destroyed at worst.

        Oswald Spengler

        July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • America buried the USSR less than 30 years ago, is still leader in high tech and innovation, and is still the richest, most powerful country in the world. Immigrants don’t try to pour into countries that lose. American decline may have begun in earnest around February 2017 but this is apparently only obvious to people outside America.

        Peter Akuleyev

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  4. It’s considered declasse by SJW or SWPL elite types to love one’s own nation or to prefer one’s own countrymen over foreigners.

    Oswald Spengler

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  5. I always thought that anti-Americanism started with the Boomers. They looked at the magnificent civilization created by their fathers and grandfathers, and it made them feel inadequate. So rather than hating themselves, they started hating America. The anti-American elites from younger generations are just conforming to the norms set by the Boomers, going along to get along. Hopefully elite anti-Americanism will fade away as the Boomers fade away.

    Joe Schmoe

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • All this garbage started under Johnson and predates the boomers as any kind of political force.

      Magnavox

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

      • The Hart-Celler immigration act was passed under LBJ after all. The act opened the floodgates to massive immigration to the U.S. from every corner of the Third World.

        Oswald Spengler

        July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • “I always thought that anti-Americanism started with the Boomers.” Nah, you can find elements of it in Thoreau and his protests against the Mexican war. America has always been full of cranky individualists who despise herd mentalities. In the 1960s, individualists couldn’t stand the rah-rah American culture that had dominated since the 1950s. Nowadays a lot of the cranky individualist types have migrated to the right, although they still hate America. But now, instead of claiming America is an imperialist corporate conformist state, they claim America is a cultural Marxist, anti-White, conformist state. But the underlying psychology is pretty similar.

      Peter Akuleyev

      July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  6. You rail against liberal elites but how about conservative elites? Like the Koch Brothers and wealthy Texas oil guys? And the tools that sent us to Irag?

    GondwanaMan

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Like I said, they love being elite.

      • Liberal elites enrage proles with their anti-Meriprolestan rhetoric and deeds.

        Conservative elites are highly suggestive for proles (sort of what Khan’s eels in Star Trek II do to their victims), “they got them by their balls” with mind control. They tell them to go love, serve, fight and then die for their country. Only a sociopath can persuade an idiot to embark on a suicide mission.

        JS

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. What struck me the most about SI when I first moved here were the LET UNBORN BABIES LIVE banners on the catholic churches. This in and of itself wouldn’t be strange, but I was still within the confines of one of the most liberal cities on the planet.

    Yes staten islanders are flag crazy. And halloween decoration crazy. And christmas light crazy. Vanity plates and customized car horns are ubiquitous here too.

    Can anyone pinpoint exactly when patriotism became lowbrow? I’ve always assumed it was fallout from the 60s-70s counter cultural movement but perhaps it’s more complicated.

    toomanymice

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Staten islanders are flag crazy-true. The si advance feed on my fb had an article about some ridiculously high flagpole from which old glory flew on the fourth. Everything has to be the biggest on si.

      Have you seen scot baio’s (?) flag murals all over the island? They’re actually really good

      Newyorker

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Staten islanders are flag crazy-true. The si advance feed on my fb had an article about some ridiculously high flagpole from which old glory flew on the fourth. Everything has to be the biggest on si.

      Have you seen scot baio’s (?) flag murals all over the island? They’re actually really good

      Newyorker

      July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  8. Being a former Staten Islander, I know very well that the proles there love America because they buy into mythology. If you believe in American mythology, then you believe that it’s the greatest country on Earth, greatest humanitarian on Earth, etc. Most proles are average or below average IQ, so they readily accept myths. This is a double edged sword as most proles will fall for “studies” on some liberal fad since they default to believing their superiors (their superiors after all run America, the greatest country on Earth).

    Smart people get tempted (and fall into many times) to becoming liberal and hating America because they learn the “real” history (Howard Zinn and his ilk) on how America was not so noble after all. They get the feeling that they were lied to their entire lives and that they have woken up. But also, most smart people want to escape and distinguish themselves from lumpenproles, so hating America can be more of an attitude to show that I’m not one of those ignoramuses.

    Conservative elites (yes, that’s becoming a rarity) recognize that America has had faults, but those faults are faults found in general in nation states and that such faults are rather mild compared to past and present countries (Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, etc). Although they tend to cuck on these questions as they don’t want to be excluded from cocktail parties with their fellow liberal elites. (Alan Dershowitz is now being heavily tempted to renounce his radical centrism as he says he’s being excluded from cocktail parties at Martha’s Vineyard).

    Basically, Staten Island and Manhattan are like Gondor and Mordor facing off of each other (who is Gondor and Mordor depends on your political orientation of course).

    Red pill aspie

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  9. Left wing black immigrant talks about the dangers of immigration for the Left: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/8/1778078/-Immigration-could-be-a-fatal-Achilles-heel-for-progressives-in-2018

    Great article. Read the comments.

    Otis the Sweaty

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  10. That’s because many liberals consider themselves citizens of the world instead and Manhattan may just as well be mount Olympus!

    guest

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  11. Dangling the flag of Meriprolestan symbolic of reddy whites with a case of blues is prolish to the elites.

    JS

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  12. On your point there was a recent case in manhattan where a co-op board succeeded in having a resident remove the American flag he put up on a small pole from his window.

    Mike Scott

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

  13. but there are exceptions such as James Woods, who is part of Hollywood elite but fervently patriotic

    grey enlightenment

    July 9, 2018 at EDT am

    • Not exactly elite anymore. He retired last year due to lack of work in the industry and his left-wing agent just dumped him.

      Brendan

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I assume his agent’s excuse was an allegation that he hit on a 16 yr old in a restaurant 10 years ago. There was a big twitter dust about it last year. Apparently, he criticized the NAMBLA aspect of Call Me by Your Name and got deluged by tolerant liberals who, apparently, support older gay men raping teenage boys. Odd since they weren’t that tolerant of Milo’s comments about it a year or so earlier.

        The takeaway is that if you disagree with the left on anything then you’d better keep it to yourself. Because anything you say or do will be wrong and used to smear you. That’s the world we live in. Even James Woods with a reported IQ of 180 and 50 years experience dodging Hollywood sharks eventually got bit.

        destructure

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  14. Proles love America because it is normal to love the land of your birth and upbringing. Love of one’s land, culture, and religion is the human norm, not the exception.

    Elites disparage their country because they revel in the sense that they are superior to the mouth-breathers and knuckle-draggers who can’t recognize what a dump the place is — from their point of view.

    ice hole

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Which is why they’re forever batting their eyelashes at “enlightened” Europe. If only we could be as “sophisticated” as those laid back, atheistic, pro-abortion, high-tax, pro-refugee, climate change enthusiasts.

      Brendan

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I’m wondering what will Americans do with all the skyscrapers that are solely dedicated for office/administrative duties, now that such inane tasks can be done remotely via the internet

      What a mess!

      JS

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • They will be rented out to self-employed (or pseudo-employed) people who want a shared working space instead of working from their apartments.

  15. I would say élites hate proles because they aren’t élite and/or because distancing yourself from proles is how to be élite. Racism is the rationalisation they use to justify their hate. Élites are anti-American because proles love America.

    P.S. the most recent episode of Slate’s culture gabfest podcast explains blue America’s embrace of the world cup in terms of explicit anti-Americanism (“finally! A sport where America does not dominate!”), with one of the hosts getting way over-the-top at demonstrating his newfound love of soccer.

    Greg Pandatshang

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Euro proles are of a higher caliber of the Meriprole variety. They love soccer, which is prole in Europe, and American SWPLs are proles in the eyes of the European bourgeois or haute Euros.

      JS

      July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I can confirm this. My parents would be Euro proles and they are more knowledgable in current events, geography, history, etc. than the average American prole.

        Red pill aspie

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Québecois proles are trashy too, but not as down as the garbage you find in America.

        Québec upper classes are definitely a new world version of the bourgeois. Not as superior, but a few notches above our SWProles.

        JS

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I deal with Austrian and Polish proles all the time. They are for the most part more ignorant and violent than white American proles, less interesting and drink more. On the plus side, they are nowhere near as obese.

        Peter Akuleyev

        July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • That might explain the Morning Joe obsession with soccer. They regularly do segments on soccer, as if they are ESPN 23 or something. It’s bizarre.

      Mike Street Station

      July 10, 2018 at EDT am

  16. Hey Lion, your description of Staten Island reminds me of certain parole parts of Vancouver, far flung municipalities usually populated by working class whites and Sikhs. But unlike NYC, here there’s no perceptible difference in patriotism between suburbs and city. Actually, very few Canadian flags fly anywhere in Canadian cities. When I venture into the US, I’m always struck by the volume of flags and advertising billboards, where the two almost compete for space.

    Roli

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

    • There may be more American flags in Vancouver than Canadian flags. I notice in TV production based in Vancouver, how ubiquitous the US flag is in production shots. There must be a massive US flag industry in Canada.

      Mike Street Station

      July 10, 2018 at EDT am

      • Indeed, Vancouver is known as Hollywood North on account of all the movies and TV shows shot here.

        Roli

        July 10, 2018 at EDT pm

  17. Years ago, if you asked a liberal why they hated their country the answer would generally have been the racism and the history of colonialism and oppression. The idea was often floated that they WISHED they could love their country, and that maybe one day when it became racism-free country they could be proud of it at last.

    But that hasn’t happened. It’s still the working classes (and noticeably the white ones at that) who support their teams at the world cup. One Labour MP said that he would be supporting Belgium when they played England recently, supposedly because of Brexit, but of course he would have been supporting Anyone But England anyway.

    Even the watered-down civic patriotism on offer is unappealing to the left, and conversely proles will still root for their country even when those in power never tire of finding new ways to show them that it isn’t their country any more. I imagine this has something to do with the concentric loyalties of conservatives versus the leapfrogging loyalties of liberals. Feeling bound to those who live near you, even when stripped of racial overtones, is simply unappealing to those on the left–loyalty based on geographic closeness and genetic closeness are after all not so very different conceptually. For elites it is the preserve of those without mobility, and who need the support of a community because they are weak and vulnerable, and who are prey to biases of familiarity and convenience which as superior people they do not entertain.

    prolier than thou

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm

  18. I was in Sunnyside Queens recently and noticed the same thing – lots of American flags.

    There are still many white people left in Sunnyside. The Latin/Asian encroachment is obvious, but still, lots of whites. It’s quite a beautiful area when you get away from the elevated train.

    gothamette

    July 9, 2018 at EDT pm


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