Lion of the Blogosphere

Interview with Peter Thiel

https://www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2018-29/artikel/en-hypnotische-massenphanomene-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-29-2018.html

German news site interviews gay billionaire Trump supporter Peter Thiel. Worth reading.

He mentions IQ tests (secret believer in HBD?) and groupthink.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM

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  1. he is also signed up for cryonics

    active pooter

    July 23, 2018 at 4:21 PM

  2. that picture makes it clear. he’s HIV+ and has been for some time. the anti-retroviral drugs are disfiguring.

    frum613

    July 23, 2018 at 4:39 PM

    • I don’t see it.

      Sam

      July 24, 2018 at 4:48 PM

  3. Not his best interview. He’s more interesting when he challenges the metrics of progress and technology, both of which are more like marketing gimmicks, or believed in like a religion, than something we actually notice improving life style anymore.

    The sad thing is how conformist everyone has become, especially in Sillycon Valley, the supposed home of free thinkers.

    Artifact

    July 23, 2018 at 4:58 PM

  4. Moldbug and Milo had been in contact prior to Milo’s downfall. A bunch of Milo’s emails were leaked. Moldbug spent election night with Thiel and assured Milo that he’s woke af. Seems unlikely that Thiel isn’t an HBD believer.

    Horace Pinker

    July 23, 2018 at 5:13 PM

    • I hadn’t heard this so looked into it. Unfortunately source for this seems to be BuzzFeed, which released only excerpts of e-mails and not their entirety (presumably for propagandistic reasons).

      Moldbug/Yarvin’s description of Thiel was reportedly “fully enlightened”.

      Wency

      July 23, 2018 at 6:25 PM

      • Unfortunately? What do you think Moldbug meant by “fully enlightened” in an email to Milo? That Thiel an admirer of Frederick the Great?

        Horace Pinker

        July 23, 2018 at 6:51 PM

      • He’s obviously a secret believer in HBD and other politically incorrect truths. The key is that he talks about thinking for himself and not going along with the crowd when the crowd is wrong.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 23, 2018 at 6:57 PM

      • Thiel is more redpilled than he lets on publicly. He has met privately with prominent HBDers you have heard of.

        Dave Pinsen

        July 23, 2018 at 8:03 PM

      • Read again. Unfortunate that source is Buzzfeed.

        Wency

        July 23, 2018 at 8:13 PM

  5. WTF? The English version of the article is free, but I have to subscribe to read the German version. Crock o’ shit.

    DdR

    July 23, 2018 at 5:26 PM

    • So ein Mist!

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      July 24, 2018 at 8:46 PM

  6. Thiel is asked about personal investing. 80% of his personal capital is in private tech companies and no more than 1% in bitcoin, which he got into in 2014. Lion, what is your portfolio allocation? Do you follow the Vanguard approach of trying to buy the entire US and world stock markets or the Buffet approach of putting 90% in the S&P 500 and 10% in treasuries, or do you do something else?

    John Shade

    July 23, 2018 at 5:31 PM

    • Lion investment advice is generally one of those ‘do the opposite’ situations.

      Jokah Macpherson

      July 23, 2018 at 5:54 PM

      • Most of my money is in the ETF MINT (short term debt), plus 10% in SPDRs, 10% in an equity mutual fund that came with my 401K, and 4% in ticker symbol RIG (oilfield services company Transocean).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 23, 2018 at 6:01 PM

      • Thanks. I am trying to match the composition of the Vanguard Target Retirement 2040 Fund (which is allocated 51.5% to the U.S. stock market, 33.5% to international stock markets, and 15% to U.S. and international bond funds). Thiel thinks going forward it will be hard to even preserve the value of your capital. Cash and bonds protect against the next bear market, but 1%-2% returns are unappetizing.

        John Shade

        July 23, 2018 at 6:44 PM

      • MINT is now paying 2.45%. Plus if the Fed raises interest rates, that will go up.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 23, 2018 at 6:52 PM

      • Vanguard Prime mmkt was 2% as of a couple weeks ago.

        Mrs Stitch

        July 23, 2018 at 7:36 PM

  7. gay billionaire Trump supporter Peter Thiel.

    America’s Ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, is also gay.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 23, 2018 at 6:14 PM

  8. No doubt that Thiel is fully red pilled. So is Elon Musk. They will ultimately find the courage to stand up and speak the truth.

    B.T.D.T.

    July 23, 2018 at 9:02 PM

    • Why do you believe Elon Musk is?

      Mike Street Station

      July 24, 2018 at 6:23 AM

      • He is from South Africa.

        B.T.D.T.

        July 24, 2018 at 10:57 AM

      • So is Charlize Theron. She’s not red pilled/

        Mike Street Station

        July 24, 2018 at 11:25 AM

      • Musk’s close and continued association with Thiel, to include the manner in which Thiel speaks about him, makes it highly probable that Musk is Red Pilled.

        After you listen to Thiel speak a great deal, you gain a particular respect for his intelligence. Others may be able to match it on paper or be its equivalent a lab, but few if any in the last twenty years have applied it as repeatedly in a successful manner as Thiel has in business. He has something special, and he speaks. Few others of his caliber do.

        What I’m getting at is that one attribute of his type of intelligence, and this presumably applies to Musk as well, is that it will allow one to will think of new angles to problems faster than most. You will pick this up the more that you listen to Thiel. Not much of the box remains unexamined. These guys specialize in identifying undersold and oversold solutions (and people). It follows that something like HBD, which is purposefully undersold and if true (as we know that it is), would not escape notice nor its proper value assignment from these two.

        After you listen o a lot of Thiel, its not a question that he believes in HBD. He says everything possible without stating outright that he believes in it.

        In addition, his first book was about the foollishness of prioritizing diversity on campus (I have not read it). It is called: The Diversity Myth : Multiculturalism and Political Intolerance on Campus

        Sam

        July 24, 2018 at 5:02 PM

  9. Are you aware of Robert Smith? He’s a billionaire private equity guy who happens to be black. He buys mid sized software companies, gives everyone an IQ test, and fires the dumb people. He’s turned this trick into something like a personal six billion valuation.

    bobbybobbob

    July 23, 2018 at 11:49 PM

  10. People often tip off the fact that they’re red pilled by the specific images and talking points they have at their fingertips. His mention of Star Wars cantina is a giveaway- unlikely to be the first thing that pops into someone’s head when they’re thinking about diversity, but it’s a common reference in alt right circles.

    Anon2

    July 24, 2018 at 12:00 AM

  11. Three billion dollars and one of these will never haunt his dreams. Hard to believe. Is he the richest gay ever?

    Curle

    July 24, 2018 at 1:00 AM

  12. I’ve been bingeing on Peter Thiel lectures and interviews lately. He’s a very well-read guy and a gracious interviewee.

    SQ

    July 24, 2018 at 1:20 AM

    • “On some level, you can think of the European VAT as a corrective to the welfare state. Even if nothing gets resolved on trade and the US end up with tariffs that function like the European VAT tax, this will shift things from welfare to work.”

      I have to admit that I did not understand what he meant by this.

      SQ

      July 24, 2018 at 1:24 AM

      • A VAT is a consumption tax rather than an income tax. How much VAT you pay depends on how much you spend. It doesn’t apply to what you save or invest. Your US income tax is unaffected by whether you choose to save/invest all your income or simply spend it all. Countries like Sweden, with both high VAT and income tax rates, are actually less “progressive” tax-wise than the US where the top 10%, 1%, 0.1%, etc. pay a much higher percentage of tax receipts than everyone else. A tariff is more like a special kind of consumption tax, as imports are overwhelmingly xonsumer goods rather than capital assets.

        PV van der Byl

        July 24, 2018 at 11:15 AM

      • Thanks, PV. How do consumption taxes and tariffs shift things from welfare to work? How are they correctives to the welfare state?

        SQ

        July 24, 2018 at 6:33 PM

  13. Thiel wrote this book 20 years ago:

    The Diversity Myth : Multiculturalism and Political Intolerance on Campus

    Of course he’s red-pilled!

    Murray Head

    July 24, 2018 at 8:43 AM

  14. Lion, I recommend listening to all of Thiel’s speeches on youtube.

    In addition, the audiobook version of his book Zero to One is available for free on youtube. Its a great way to spend a couple of hours. I’ve listened o everything freely available of is multiple times. It doesn’t get old.

    If you like intellectual dialogue, seek out Rene Girard’s 5 part interview on Mimesis on youtube. Girard was one of Thiel’s Stanford professors and I learned of his work through Thiel, for whom it was philsophically formative.

    Sam

    July 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM

  15. In the article he mentioned that one can no longer become a polymath like the great men of the 18th Century Enlightenment due to technological advances. You need to defer to other people who are experts of their field. I say BS. In our capitalistic American society the respect for independent inquiry or the pursuit of knowledge for its own sake is nil.

    JS

    July 24, 2018 at 7:48 PM


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