Lion of the Blogosphere

Free Maria Butina

So she gave some speeches at NRA meetings. And she also talked to her friends back in Russia.

I thought this was a free country and even people here on visas had freedom of speech and freedom of association. I am sure that there are huge numbers of Canadians and Mexicans in the country who have the same level of involvement in U.S. organizations.

Is this sudden arrest and indictment done to promote the Deep State’s Russia narrative?

How would the U.S. feel if a U.S. citizen were imprisoned in a foreign country because they gave a speech to some group that was unpopular with that country’s government? We would be screaming about how it’s anti-Democratic and that she should be immediately released.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 24, 2018 at 1:24 PM

Posted in International, News

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  1. That can’t be why she has been arrested, can it?

    Dan

    July 24, 2018 at 1:39 PM

  2. An interesting piece on Mueller’s investigation with several former prosecutors discussing what they think is going on based on how he’s handling the cases. They don’t think he has anything.

    Why is Mueller handing off key cases?

    destructure

    July 24, 2018 at 2:27 PM

  3. Living today seems to be like a redux of the 60’s counterculture protests and Red Scare rolled into one package. And dialed up 10 times.

    Red pill aspie

    July 24, 2018 at 2:57 PM

    • Very true. Even in the 60s people weren’t calling for no borders, as Alexandria Ocaso-Cortez is. And the state of California is approaching that.

      Of course the the Wall Street Journal called for it in the 1980s but I believe they now realize that, no, businesses can’t fire American workers and replace them with cheap Mexicans. Those danged “populists.”

      Nor was Europe subjected to wave after wave of unwanted Africans. The “populists” won the last Italian election and closed its ports to crackpot SJW-financed boats.

      This is a civil war going on all over the West.

      Frau Katze

      July 24, 2018 at 4:38 PM

  4. From Fox News:

    The 29-year-old Russian woman accused of covertly working as a foreign agent while living in the United States allegedly offered to have sex with an unnamed individual in return for a job in the United States, prosecutors said Wednesday.

    And that’s not all. According to new court filings, Maria Butina allegedly “gained access” to “an extensive network of U.S. persons in positions to influence political activities in the United States” by living with and having a personal relationship with another individual.

    ….

    Well, failing to register as a foreign agent is a crime. If Butina was working for the Russian government, she would be guilty. But how could such an allegation be proved if she denies it? The Russians aren’t exactly going to help.

    All the other allegations against her seem pretty hollow. Even if she did offer to trade sexual favors for a job or access, so what? This whole thing seems like a plot by the Deep State to promote their phony Russia narrative and embarrass Trump. If they’d really something to investigate, try the Clinton Foundation, Hillary’s Russian uranium deals and her unclassified emails.

    Black Death

    July 24, 2018 at 3:06 PM

    • “Well, failing to register as a foreign agent is a crime.”

      It’s a crime in oppressive governments like Soviet Union and China, the United States is supposed to have freedom.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 24, 2018 at 3:31 PM

    • “Well, failing to register as a foreign agent is a crime. ”

      (1) Was failing to register as a foreign agent typically prosecuted in the past?

      (2) Is there any evidence that she worked for Russia as a spy?

      I hate the totalitarian streak of our government.

      If there was any justice, there would be sanctions, arrests and asset freezes on British nationals, who are really the ones that interfered in the 2016 election.

      Dan

      July 24, 2018 at 4:09 PM

      • (1) Rarely, and hasn’t been succesfully prosecuted as a crime, by itself, since the 1966 revision of FARA. It’s only used against people the U.S. Government is especially mad at.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 24, 2018 at 4:11 PM

      • Jeff Sessions has been such a disappointment. His own DOJ is the center of all this crap. The crimes that the DoJ have been going after is the crime of supporting conservatives and Trump. This is rank insubordination and Sessions should have fired one after the other until these clowns who are supposed to be neutral stop acting like the resistance.

        Hillary Clinton deserves a lot of the blame for acting like a victim after losing the election and calling for resistance. Her white knights at justice have been obeying her in stupid chivalry to an old hag. She couldn’t graciously accept defeat like everyone else who ever ran for President and lost. What a disaster she has been, even in defeat. Bill Clinton has been pathetic too. If his wife is off the rails with nobody close to her telling her any sense, that is partly on him. Bro, you were a US president — show some backbone.

        Dan

        July 24, 2018 at 6:32 PM

      • There’s the outstanding case of Hollywood producer Arnon Milchan, who was never prosecuted by the FBI after he facilitated nuclear trigger smuggling to Israel and other such activity. Others have also long pointed out that institutions such as AIPAC and the ADL (who has been investigated for spying) more than represent unregistered agent roles within society, often being ignored on the technicality that dual citizenship is common for Jews.

        I know that this contrast will be difficult to process for many here, but in the end any double standard on the part of the FBI, especially when contrasting cases like Milchan’s, only hurts the FBI and how Jews are perceived in American society. Milchan escaped all prosecution. Relying on the ignorance of the populace in such cases is no longer enough.

        I’m not trying to pick on Jews whatsoever. These cases only represent the most relevant answer to the question of whether or not foreign agent registration failure has been prosecuted in the past. It would be better for everyone if this statute was uniformly enforced or unenforced.

        Jon

        July 25, 2018 at 11:03 AM

      • I agree that AIPAC is violating FARA just as much as Maria Butina did, but let’s not only pick on AIPAC, there are surely tens of thousands of people openly doing the same stuff that Butina did.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 25, 2018 at 1:08 PM

      • I agree with you, Lion. Though, for better or worse, AIPAC is one of the first (and perhaps one of a handful) of noteworthy organizations (vs. individuals) that will be cited by those of the populace who are paying attention, as a counter-example of orgs in violation and who are allowed to get away with it.

        If it helps, we can concentrate on, say, CAIR as another who is likely in violation. Though, unless we can trace a majority of their international activity to one Muslin nation its not quite equivalent. But good enough for this example and I would not object to them being brought to heel.

        The point is that the FBI needs to prosecute groups and individuals uniformly if, as you seem to imply in your post, it doesn’t wish to look like a politically motivated secret police organ.

        My opinion is that this law should be tightly enforced in order to dissuade too much social fracture in this excessively multicultural nation.

        People who live here, if they wish to engage in politics, should be dissuaded to engage in them for the benefit of foreign nations. We can not have a free for all political environment here when it comes to our interests vs foreign interests, especially in the context of our extreme multiculturalism. Its not fair to the people of this nation who see this one as their only nation. They should not have to endure the influence of foreign-nation interested politics in their schools, communities, or media. Their interests, as members of this nation, should be primary and should be what are prioritized by all of our institutions.

        That being said, what would be proper and improper to prosecute under a stricter interpretation of the law would become muddier as we began to look at individuals, like Maria Butina, with seemingly more random social and political habits that have to be interpreted by someone as transgressing the regulation. This is in contrast with organizations with mission statements.

        Jon

        July 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM

  5. So what is the DoJ trying to do? Use her to get to someone else? Discredit the NRA? Give the appearance of a Russia spy network operating in plain sight in the USA? Undercut Trump meeting with Putin? Pick on her just because most of the spies have diplomatic immunity and she does not?

    Yes, the case against her, as has been made public, is extremely weak.

    Roger

    July 24, 2018 at 3:11 PM

  6. “Maria Butina allegedly “gained access” to “an extensive network of U.S. persons in positions to influence political activities in the United States” by living with and having a personal relationship with another individual.”

    Sounds a lot like this Brahmin lady who married a Microsofty, moved to Seattle, became involved in socialist circles, became an US citizen, ran for office and now terrorizes the police.

    https://thecisforcrank.com/2015/07/09/solidarity-fund-beneficiary-funded-6000-in-sawant-travel-expenses/

    Curle

    July 24, 2018 at 4:18 PM

    • Khsama Sawant makes the cultural mistake of a lot of Asians and is entirely too emotional and radical to connect with American (read: White) society, at least outside of privileged White druggy circles (aka: Antifa) and extreme outcasts like the homosexual community. Drugs make a person ever-emotional over time, as does social exclusion. Asian radicals aren’t social enough, they aren’t “us” enough. The kids would say that they aren’t “cool” enough. This isn’t surprising considering her first generation status.

      Asia is wracked with such over-reaching. See Tiananmen Square and suicide by tank. See the self-immolations. See the success of Communism in Asia. See the Kamikaze fighters and Seppuku of Japan. See the average protest over any issue in South Korea or Thailand. The people look like they are one step away from taking to the roofs. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/roof-koreans

      This type of zealotry is what Sawant is attempting to bring to Seattle. She sees it as normal and likely doesn’t understand how and why it isn’t more common. The answer lies in the cultural gap. I would in turn point to the state of her home nation and ours to identify which cultural approach is more functional.

      Jon

      July 25, 2018 at 11:53 AM

  7. As Russia interferes with American global domination more and more, we will see more of this kind of stuff happening.

    My 2¢

    July 25, 2018 at 9:14 PM


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