Lion of the Blogosphere

Visa and Mastercard ban David Horowitz Freedom Center

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/splc-hate-group-gets-visa-and-mastercard-to-block-payments-to-david-horowitz-freedom-center/

This is another step forward in big corporations with monopoly power censoring conservatives.

The irony here is that Front Page Magazine has been libertarian, and now the big corporations are paying back all of that editorializing against regulation of big corporations by shutting down their income. It’s time for the right wing to stop being cucks to big business.

I can’t help but point out that Horowitz is Jewish. Some anti-Semitic types think that Jews have protection from this type of stuff that gentiles don’t have, but obviously that is not the case.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

Posted in Libertarianism

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  1. It’s 2028, you get a letter from your health insurance stating they’re cancelling your insurance because you called somebody a “faggot” during an intense CoD matchup on XBox Live back in 2016.

    Ronald McDonald

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  2. This is freaking unbelievable. The sad thing about Horowitz is that to him, “the left” is the enemy. He’s a fervent believer in capitalism. But what happens when Big Capital turns against you? Then where are you?

    Lion – no matter how much you point out that Jews are victims of the system, the alt right will never believe or accept you. You want so badly for them to accept you. Maybe I’m wrong. Correct me.

    But they never will because their entire worldview is anti-Jewish. They even have a handbook, which was outed in the NYer and HuffPo, to blame “the Jew” for everything. EVERYTHING. And this is no pose. They believe the world is a drama between the Aryan and the evil materialistic Jew. Once you understand that a lot of things become clear.

    gothamette

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I’m considering giving up on blogging because of the anti-Semitism.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Lots of us gentiles who voted for Trump don’t have any animus against Jewish people and enjoy your blog, and we will miss it if you cease blogging.

        Gozo

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Don’t, we need you

        biffinator

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • The anti-semites are as dumb as the blacks that think they’re poor because of whites. You’re poor because you’re stupid and a loser with a loser mentality not because of some conspiracy against you.

        The enemy is the left, there are Jews among them but they are not the majority. The left is diverse and tolerant and maybe that’s why they’re winning. Maybe it’s impossible for the right to win in a democracy, because everyone wants to be told they’re special and get free stuff.

        XVO

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Yours is the only website I read every day. I wouldn’t do that unless I either liked you or hated you. And I don’t hate you.

        destructure

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • You quitting blogging would have antisemitic consequences.

        My 2¢

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Don’t let a few anti-Semitic losers get you down. Don’t give up blogging, Lion.

        Oswald Spengler

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I hope you’re not serious, Lion. Remember that you just get a lot of anti-Semitic traffic to your blog because it was considered alt-right when “alt-right” was a bigger tent. I’d honestly be surprised if there are more than a few hundred anti-Semites with triple-digit IQs in the entire country.

        Horace Pinker

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • That’s exactly what a Jew would say!

        Hermes

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Yeah Lion, please hang in there.
        The anti-Semites make much noise, but they get major pushback, see e.g. Zman (at http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=13168 ) on:
        “Every intellectual movement since Jewish emancipation, that was not *explicitly* anti-Semitic, saw an over representation of Jews…. The real issue for me is that anti-Semites taste Jews in their sandwich….” .

        And also, see https://theZMAN.com/wordpress/?p=14693 , on:
        “Their fight within the Jewish community over Jewish identity is a *mirror*, of what is happening within the Occident.”

        Seeing as, I gather, Zman is one of the most influential alt-Right bloggers, and that his words here got some (but not very major), pushback, I’ll wager that most alt-Righters find the “JQers” to be, at best, tiresome.

        aNanyMouse

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • @destructure et al, I certainly wasn’t referring to any of the contributors here. I was specifically referring to The Andrews Sisters (LOL, anglin and weev), and their setup. The handbook I referred to his described here:

        https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_us_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2

        HuffPo, yeah, but the content is true.

        gothamette

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • ANY talk about genes related to IQ results in a career destroyed, I don’t see what Jews have to do with it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Don’t do it. Then they win.

        Frau Katze

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Don’t quit blogging! Then the SJWs win! It doesn’t matter to me that you are Jewish. I’m sure you have lot’s of non-Jewish readers.

        Rosenmops

        August 26, 2018 at EDT pm

    • They’re incredibly self-destructive:

      IHTG

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I initially thought the link would detail brownshirt LARPing, which is a real problem. But Johnson’s comments weren’t that bad at all, look in any comment section and you’ll find far more radical stuff. Certainly he didn’t anticipate that they would lead to Claremont deciding to shut down the email list because one person out of hundreds is a Wrongthinker.

        “Darren beattie’s a pretty accomplished academic (so he’s got plenty of friends in that milieu) and you’ll notice he stands by Trump’s decision to fire him 100%”

        This is the mentality of champions!

        “you like these people and want to convince them”

        Convince them of what? If Trumpism is going to be just the Bush agenda with a more masculine figurehead, count me out.

        Alexander Turok

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • That Horowitz is Jewish is completely incidental. For many years he’s been the the Left’s most articulate and effective antagonist – having lived inside the Left he can credibly talk to youth about its real motivations. You strain to make a point about a far-right “they” but it’s not “they” who are causing the credit companies to do this, it’s the organized Left. What if every stormfronter died tomorrow, how would that help Horowitz?

      Vipltd

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  3. This is a problem. I realize that social media companies are private. But if the FCC can regulate radio and television then they should be able to regulate the internet. What we have is a handful of companies conspiring to control information. If that’s not a monopoly then I don’t know what is.

    Normally, I don’t get upset about monopolies. Their biggest sin is to drive up costs for consumers. But there’s something totalitarian about a handful of companies that control so much traffic conspiring to control content. That’s the kind of thing North Korea, China and Iran do.

    This is from a year ago…

    Facebook FAKE NEWS Censor Funded By GEORGE SOROS; TARGETS ONLY RIGHT-OF-CENTER NEWS!

    These are from this week…

    Top Far Left Organizations Bragged About Working with Facebook and Twitter to Censor and Eliminate Conservative Content

    Memo reveals Soros-funded social-media censorship plan

    destructure

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • it’s almost as if libertarians hate liberty more than anyone.

      libertarian

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Monopolies are bad because they enforce conformity of thought and expression. Why do you think most of us speak up here behind screen names?

      gothamette

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “driving up costs” is not the salient reason for opposing monopoly. It was not even the primary reason for anti-trust law.

      IOW, even if products are free, then a monopoly can exist.

      map

      August 24, 2018 at EDT am

  4. I recently noticed paypal prohibits using their service to buy firearms and ammunition as well. If the supreme court is going to prohibit businesses from discriminating against homos for practicing their constitutionally(?) protected right to **** another guy in the *** then they should similarly prohibit businesses from discriminating against people for practicing their constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms as well as freedom of speech. These big internet and financial companies need to be held to the same standard as mom & pop bakeries.

    destructure

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • shame on you non-libertarian.

      libertarian

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Fuck you, Ross.

        destructure

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Make leftists “Bake that cake!”

      chris

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • We will have our cake and eat it too!

        chris

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  5. Interesting. I’ve spent a few hours listening to David Horowitz, probably less than ten, maybe a little more. One striking thing about him is how incredibly moderate his core beliefs are. The major thing he’s concerned about is anyone doing immoral things (especially murder and terrorism) because a utopian ideology has convinced them that it’s for the greater good.

    These companies are actually trying to shut him down for *discouraging* acts of terrorism. That’s scary.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I was going to say, this is extremely troubling, because my impression of David Horowitz is that he is fairly mainstream right, which would be consistent with Lion calling him a libertarian. Lawrence Auster used to talk about that blogger who contacted Horowitz and got him to expel Auster from FrontPage magazine for being a “racist.” So this is a sign that they are starting to go after even the mainstream, “moderate” right.

      The exception might be that I think Horowitz has been critical of Islam. So maybe it was his “islamophobia” that did him in? Looks like that’s why the $PLC hated him so much.

      Hermes

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • I’ve been reading their page on him. Yes that appears to be a big deal.

        https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/david-horowitz

        Again, it’s exactly what I’m saying. He’s criticizing organizations which are “fighting the good fight”, “by any means necessary”, including targeting innocent civilians through acts of terrorism. Condemning organizations like Hezbollah which use these tactics is “islamophobia”, because those organizations are explicitly Islamic, and represent large numbers of Muslims.

        They’re not cutting off Muslim run organizations which condone terrorism. When SPLC, Visa, and Mastercard wade into this, it is to cut off a non-observant cultural Jew who condemns terrorism. Damn. Just Damn.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • Why does that despicable SPLC still have the power to do this? They’ve been questionable for years.

        Frau Katze

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • I’m surprised they didn’t hit HBD sites like Sailer and West Hunter before Horowitz. Maybe tomorrow.

      I notice Sailer has about six ways to contribute, including checks to a post box and Bitcoin.

      Frau Katze

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  6. as a libertarian i applaud this move by the selfless genius value creators at visa and mastercard because private companies.

    libertarian

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  7. Nah. First, FrontPage regularly smears Libertarianism, so they got what they deserved. No one screws with the actual Libertarians because you’re in court the next morning or get a little activist pressure. See: https://www.frontpagemag.com/search/site/libertarianism Let them call the ACLU. Seriously.

    Second, Libertarians have said for years private-for-public (what Gilson calls PfP’s) entities must be non-discriminatory. Most of these groups having trouble are simply not purely private. The far-left fears that libertarian position, as it goes well beyond their phoney-baloney ‘non-discrimination’ would expose their infiltration, regulation rackets, and schemes. They want to regulate-in ‘non-discrimination’ to privilege themselves.

    That said, what is happening is a disgrace. Libertarians of the day gave us juries and a Bill of Rights/common law system. Sue the jerks.

    Robert

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Regardless of any libertarian laws (which sound sensible) the leftists will get around them, saying the targeted parties are criminals. Hate speech, etc.

      Frau Katze

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  8. Is there any corroboration of this claim? Any source for the claim besides Horowitz himself?

    Because I’m somewhat skeptical.

    fortaleza84

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • If he were lying, Visa and Mastercard could sue him. Second, why would a man whose foundation runs on donations announce that he can no longer accept the most common and convenient method of donation unless that were actually the case? Third, we’ve seen Visa and Mastercard target dozens of other right wing voices prior to this, so the escalation to Horowitz fits the pattern and is consistent with the trend.

      PerezHBD

      August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

      • To answer your question, it’s possible that he’s just confused. If his merchant account bank shut him down for political (or non-political) reasons, he might leap to the conclusion that it’s poitically motivated and by Mastercard and/or Visa.

        fortaleza84

        August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  9. Sessions always answers when Trump is down. He is the real cuck. And prosecuting minor drug offenders is crazy. He looks like perfecr, thanks to his immigration views, but he is a big liability. You would need another kind of person to attack a department with 95% of executives said to lean democrat.

    I am not objective because I don’t like is social reactionary values. But I thought it would be compensated by migrant control and pro-freedom of speech policies. It isn’t .

    The Harvard law suit is not bad but there are not really impulsing anything …

    Bruno

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  10. This should be bigger news, leaker gets five years, yet Comey remains free.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/reality-winner-sentencing-russia-hacking-report-794330

    Curle

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

  11. Antisemitism is irrational but very persistent. Why is that? I believe it’s because no one, respectable or otherwise, thinks about the Jews objectively. You have this bizarre situation in which a handful of gentiles believe the Jews are evil, and others nearly worship them as deities made flesh. Both groups tend to treat the Jews as a monolithic group and don’t leave much room for individuality. Quite frankly the bullshit coming from both sides has gotten so deep that you might as well just forgo the rubber boots and get into the nearest boat. Given the current atmosphere, is it any wonder that a few people actually believe in Jewish conspiracies and the Protocols?

    Antisemitism is messed up, but let’s be honest and acknowledge that it’s just part of America’s unhealthy obsession with the Jews and Israel. If we want to curtail antisemitism, then we have to address all of the crazy stuff, not just the hateful parts. For instance, if we don’t want dim witted gentiles to think the Jews, as a group, control American politics, it might be a good idea for politicians to stop gushing about “our staunchest ally” as if it’s really all that important to the American people. Personally, Israel means no more to me than Morocco or Nepal, and I’d rather hear about what a politician is going to do for me and the people I care about.

    Stealth

    August 23, 2018 at EDT pm

    • 10 or 15 years ago, there was an author who introduced the concept of the “market-dominant minority,” i.e. a minority group which is more successful than the people in the surrounding area. Market-dominant minorities tend to generate a lot of controversy since their success excites peoples’ envy and potentially fills their need to find an outgroup to scapegoat.

      fortaleza84

      August 24, 2018 at EDT am

      • Yeah fort84, given Jews’ penchant for displaying *striking* talents, it’d take a *miracle* for them to not arouse this envy.

        aNanyMouse

        August 24, 2018 at EDT pm

    • Well, Stealth, I’ll quibble with you on Israel not being more important than Nepal or Morocco, neither of which could resort to the Samson Option, and neither of which ever has, or ever will, “provoke” the Saudis to deploy the Oil Weapon against the world economy.
      And, I think that you hugely *overstate* things, when you say that “others nearly worship them as deities made flesh.” (More on that, at this post’s bottom.)
      But, I’ll grant, the talk about “our staunchest ally” is a bit much, esp. seeing that much of Israel’s staunchness must owe much to our being by far the best game in town for them. Thus, we’re in quite a position to drive a rather tougher bargain with them.
      And, our failure to do that probably does help fuel anti-Semitism here.

      And, it does hurt, that the ADL and SPLC seem to spare no effort, to look for racists and anti-Semites under every bed.
      However, U.S. Jews (esp. those outside of that famously-rude city, NYC) really have *earned* a rep (esp. with culturally *street-wise* people) for being *quite* likeable and admirable, so the *real* anti-Semitism expressed (esp.) nowadays really is *disgusting/ infuriating*.
      Are the Gentiles of U.S. cities (incl. NYC) *really* any more likeable / admirable, than are (mostly urban) Jews?

      Are NYC inhabitants renowned for being difficult because of Jewish influence there, or are NYC Jews more difficult than non-NYC Jews because they’re *NYC* Jews?
      Hopefully some of those influenced by the “JQers” will learn to think FAIRLY about such questions.
      It is really important for sane alt-Righters to work to ensure, that U.S. Jews get a *fair* shake in this “JQ” debate.
      It’ll be a grotesque tragedy, if the handfuls of very noisy JQers drive (esp. richly talented) Jews away from the alt-Right.

      aNanyMouse

      August 24, 2018 at EDT pm

      • “I’ll quibble with you on Israel not being more important than Nepal or Morocco,”

        Read what I wrote and take it at face value; I don’t care about the residents of Israel any more than I care about the residents of [pick two random countries]. I care about American Jews – as Americans.

        “And, I think that you hugely *overstate* things, when you say that “others nearly worship them as deities made flesh.” (More on that, at this post’s bottom.)”

        I meant to write “divine beings”, or “demigods” (as I’ve heard someone else put it) to indicate that they believe Jews are ranked higher in the supernatural hierarchy than gentiles. So, yes, I guess what I wrote was an exaggeration, just not an intentional one. But yes, Evangelicals take this stuff very seriously.

        Stealth

        August 26, 2018 at EDT pm

    • “You have this bizarre situation in which a handful of gentiles believe the Jews are evil, and others nearly worship them as deities made flesh.”

      ——————————————————————

      Leftists are turning against Jews and are pro-Muslim. Muslims hate Jews. Muslims have been terrorizing modern Israel ever since it was created. In more recent years Muslims have been terrorizing everyone. But the leftists will find no fault with them. When a Muslim man shot up a street in Toronto recently, the leftists in charge of the government and media did everything they could to down play the fact that he was Muslim. The refused to release his name for 24 hours.

      Trudeau seems to be an Islamophile and his government is riddled with Muslims. His minister of immigration was born in Somalia and has dual citizenship, and lectures the rest of us about being “un-Canadian” because we object to the 1000’s of illegal immigrants who are walking across the border.

      Jeremy Corbyn, leader of Labour Party in the UK, seems to be an open anti-semite who worships Muslims.

      I’m trying to explain why a lot of people who have turned away from the leftists and progressives feel sympathy towards Israel and non-leftist Jews.

      Rosenmops

      August 26, 2018 at EDT pm


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