Lion of the Blogosphere

Why the Muslims hate us

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/china-pathologizing-uighur-muslims-mental-illness/568525/

One million Muslims are being held right now in Chinese internment camps, according to estimates cited by the UN and U.S. officials. Former inmates—most of whom are Uighurs, a largely Muslim ethnic minority—have told reporters that over the course of an indoctrination process lasting several months, they were forced to renounce Islam, criticize their own Islamic beliefs and those of fellow inmates, and recite Communist Party propaganda songs for hours each day. There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims, as well as reports of torture and death.

But the Muslims don’t hate the Chinese, they hate America and Israel. Muslims respect brutality and strength, they detest SJWism which they perceive as weakness. SJWs in the U.S. fakestream media are far more distressed about Chinese mistreatment of Muslims then actual Muslims.

Muslims would like Israel a lot better if they treated the Palestinians the way the Chinese treat their Muslims.

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However, I can see a future where SJWs put conservatives into internment camps and brainwash them using the same methods.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 29, 2018 at 12:52 PM

Posted in Religion

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  1. Per Machiavelli, it is better to be feared than loved.

    Oswald Spengler

    August 29, 2018 at 12:57 PM

  2. However, I can see a future where SJWs put conservatives into internment camps and brainwash them using the same methods.

    Already occurs. It’s called “the education system.”

    snorlaxwp

    August 29, 2018 at 1:10 PM

    • Haha, yeah. There’s no need for internment camps; the entire modern liberal Western world is an exercise in brainwashing. Forcing people to bake gay wedding cakes? TV shows and movies where the most cognitively advanced characters (computer hackers, neurosurgeons, scientists, etc.) are black? It’s already happening all around us.

      Hermes

      August 30, 2018 at 8:58 AM

  3. “There are media reports of inmates being forced to eat pork and drink alcohol, which are forbidden to Muslims”

    The Chinese were probably serving slabs of drippy roast pork and rice wine.

    SWPLs would offer Muslims artisanal sandwiches laced with thick cut bacon and a glass of hard cider from the finest of craft breweries.

    In a similar scenario, could you imagine someone throwing you a Playboy magazine and then forcing you to jerk off at gunpoint?

    JS

    August 29, 2018 at 1:48 PM

  4. Or maybe like us, the Muslims find the Chinese inscrutable.

    IHTG

    August 29, 2018 at 1:51 PM

    • I don’t know what you mean by that.

      gothamette

      August 29, 2018 at 4:02 PM

      • It’s often said that the West should be more hostile or on its guard against China, a rising power, instead of say, Russia.

        Why isn’t it? I’m saying it might be because there’s something about the Chinese character that strikes Westerners as…inscrutably not as threatening. Always the second priority on the enemies list, not the first.

        If that’s the case, maybe it’s the same with Muslims.

        IHTG

        August 30, 2018 at 6:23 AM

      • I was making a joke about the inscrutability – saying that YOU were being inscrutable. SDNWOTI.

        gothamette

        August 30, 2018 at 6:57 PM

    • If you find other people inscrutable that says more about you than them.

      SC

      August 29, 2018 at 5:57 PM

  5. “However, I can see a future where SJWs put conservatives into internment camps and brainwash them using the same methods.”

    They already believe that right wing beliefs are some sort of mental illness. So it’s not that big a leap.

    Mike Street Station

    August 29, 2018 at 1:52 PM

  6. Two nights ago, I took my 94 year-old Mom out for dinner in SF. As we prepared to enter the restaurant, the entrance was blocked by a young Muslim, dirty and grungy, who was on his knees praying (facing southwest, which seemed weird). Didn’t last long, not that big a deal, but I’ve never seen them doing it in a restaurant doorway before. Internment in a concentration camp would be too good for the people responsible for bringing muslims into this country. Steve Sailer suggests it might have been a combination of nice-white-lady protestants, and Strobe Talbot.

    Vipltd

    August 29, 2018 at 2:01 PM

    • Why southwest is weird? If you look at the map Mecca is south to SF and almost the same distance whether you look west or east, so he could choose either. In NY I would expect him to point south east though.

      Hashed

      August 29, 2018 at 8:43 PM

  7. Muslims are very tribal. The Middle East and Iranian Muslims probably don’t care about Chinese Muslims because they probably don’t see them as real Muslims. They probably barely know that there are Muslims in China.

    The various groups of Muslims all hate each other, even though they are all brutal. Hatred of Jews and Israel is built in to Islam. The Hamas founding charter speaks of killing all the Jews.
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hamas-covenant-excerpt

    The Palestinians don’t believe that there were ever Jews in ancient Israel:
    https://www.memri.org/tv/montreal-friday-sermon-sheikh-wael-al-ghitawi-jews-are-khazar-slayers-prophets-and-have-no

    Some crazy shit out of Egypt: (Jews stole Egyptian gold during the Exodus!)
    https://www.memri.org/tv/egyptian-political-scientist-jews-must-return-gold-they-stole-egypt-during-exodus

    But I agree they tend to respect a show of strength–it is probably the only thing they do respect,
    According to the “shame vs guilt” culture theory, Muslims have a shame culture. This is why they have honour killings. If they feel their daughter has shamed the family in some way they must kill her to restore their standing in the community.

    Rosenmops

    August 29, 2018 at 2:21 PM

    • From what I can tell, even Turks in Turkey don’t care about Uyghurs, who are also Turkic.

      Jason Liu

      August 29, 2018 at 7:56 PM

  8. The future is already here. Remember you MUST bake the gay cake.

    Artifact

    August 29, 2018 at 2:49 PM

  9. Has anyone else noticed that there have not been any major Muslim terrorist attacks in any Western country since Trump became president? The mere threat of banning Muslims from access to the West seems to have nipped the problem in the bud entirely.

    DataExplorer

    August 29, 2018 at 2:50 PM

    • #winning

      Dragonlady

      August 29, 2018 at 11:26 PM

  10. Did you know that Uighur get affirmative action for college admissions in China?

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    August 29, 2018 at 3:23 PM

  11. Well, we’re clearly doing something wrong. I don’t mean morally but pragmatically. Because whatever we’re doing ain’t working.

    destructure

    August 29, 2018 at 3:26 PM

    • Although I should probably say “whatever we were doing wasn’t working”. As DataExplorer points out, the muzzies have settled down a lot since Trump became president.

      destructure

      August 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM

      • ISIS was a major instigator of terrorism, and ISIS has been demolished during the last two years.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 29, 2018 at 3:36 PM

      • “…and ISIS has been demolished during the last two years.”

        Yep. It worked.

        destructure

        August 29, 2018 at 5:08 PM

      • “ISIS was a major instigator of terrorism, and ISIS has been demolished during the last two years.”

        When you say they were an instigator, do you mean on a moral level? Or an actual physical / financial level? I definitely agree with the former but I am a little more skeptical of the later.

        Certainly Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi declaring an Islamic State was a huge moral boost to Islam and a huge encouragement for Muslims that now is the time to go all out against the West. But I doubt they would have been able to coordinate and finance many attacks themselves from Raqqa.

        What we can say is that the Muslims overplayed their hand, they created the Islamic State too early. It was bombed to oblivion and now Muslims realize that now is not the time to be going all out against the West, especially now that the West is threatening to cut off immigration access. They know that the only way they can increase their chances of a final victory is through gradual demographic replacement, so they are laying low and buying their time. But they would not have necessarily made the decision to change strategy if there had not been a reaction from Trump and the rising “Far Right” in Europe. So we can say that Trump’s proposal for a full Muslim ban definitely had an impact.

        DataExplorer

        August 30, 2018 at 10:16 AM

  12. This isn’t mistreatment of the Uighurs. It is the best treatment of the Uighurs, because the paternalistic aim is build citizens who will function well in Chinese society. In a generation, the more enterprising of these Uighurs will be very rich, no doubt.

    SJWs have no paternalistic aim. They are motivated simply by bitterness and resentment toward the well-functioning and the successful. What would they try to mold someone into?

    The Chinese re-educate in the name of building a unified society. SJWs seek the opposite of a unified society; they want to turn America into a PT Barnum circus freak show.

    Dan

    August 29, 2018 at 4:55 PM

    • I doubt China’s policies towards the Uighurs are as benevolent as you suggest. The Uighurs are a nuisance they want to get rid of. So they’ll do to them what they’ve done to the Tibetans and Mongolians, They’ll destroy their resistance then flood their region with han chinese until they’re a minority in their own land. In a generation they’ll be extinct. In that regard, the Chinese are exactly like the sjw’s. The difference is that chinese do it to others while sjw’s do it to their own.

      destructure

      August 29, 2018 at 5:15 PM

      • The Han Chinese are legitimately the more advanced people and the Uighurs are legitimately backwards. This kind of colonization is good: it is how civilization advances.

        SJWs seek to replace civilized people with barbarians and in this way civilization recedes.

        Dan

        August 29, 2018 at 8:22 PM

      • I’m pretty sure civilization could advance without exterminating the Uighurs,

        destructure

        August 29, 2018 at 9:16 PM

      • Desrtucture wrote:
        “They’ll destroy their resistance then flood their region with han chinese until they’re a minority in their own land. In a generation they’ll be extinct. ”

        ———————————————————————————-

        Gosh, I thought you were talking about white people in Vancouver for a minute there.

        Rosenmops

        August 29, 2018 at 9:46 PM

      • Gosh, I thought you were talking about white people in Vancouver for a minute there.

        So did I, no joke.

        #blackpill

        SJ, Esquire

        August 30, 2018 at 10:15 AM

  13. There are co-workers you hate more than murderers — why? Because human beings do not base their emotional responses on abstract figures. Try as you might, you’ll never loathe convicted killers as much as your boss Blake. Israel’s intergenerational tyranny, with full U.S. support, is well known and has been on-going. Also, for Muslims, and most others, there’s a racial tribalism. Middle-easterners can readily identify with other middle-easterners. Given time and attention, Muslims around the world can be just as upset with oppression from the Chinese and Burmese.

    Vince

    August 29, 2018 at 4:56 PM

    • “Israel’s intergenerational tyranny”

      LOL! Some people…

      Perturabo

      August 29, 2018 at 7:38 PM

  14. In Paris, people are talking about rabbi Freundel. Everyone likes the story and is devastated for the rabbi ….

    Bruno

    August 29, 2018 at 5:51 PM

  15. China hasn’t invaded any Muslim countries, the Uyghur issue is still quite minor compared to the Gulf War/Iraq/Aghanistan and a bunch of other little wars. It also hasn’t been as long.

    That being said, I think Chinese leadership is making a mistake. It’s like they read a bunch of sensationalist news from Europe about rapefugees and turned all about paranoid about Muslims in China. Uyghurs are not ISIS, and even if they are, it’s largely as a reaction to government heavy-handedness. Sinicization of the area, if that’s what they want, should be carried out with more finesse.

    Jason Liu

    August 29, 2018 at 7:55 PM

  16. Islam has eschatological friction with Jews in possession of Judah (I’m being cheeky). Jews are one step closer to building their messianic temple which then implies Islam is maybe not so much a false religion, but an inferior cosmology, which itself is life threatening to its belief system.

    The Chinese by contrast are wallflowers.

    A Dilettante

    August 29, 2018 at 8:12 PM

  17. After overthrowing governments of Iran, Iraq, Libya I can’t imagine why some of them would hold any resentment towards America.

    Jokes aside. Are you intentionally being obtuse, do you think globally muslims are united in their hatred for America? I feel like Americans have been sold that hatred a lot more effectively than Muslims.. Enough to wage a trillion dollar war for more than a decade..

    Kaz

    August 29, 2018 at 8:32 PM

  18. They don’t hate us.

    They have contempt for us.

    gothamette

    August 29, 2018 at 8:43 PM

  19. I think you don’t understand the religious aspect of this hate which is embedded in the Muslim and the Christian psych for generation. Christians suppose to replace Jews and the true Judaism, and Muslims suppose to replace the Christians so any power applied by those over Muslim is hitting deep in their religious believes. There is nothing symbolic in the Chinese oppression of Muslims, it is just oppression.

    Hashed

    August 29, 2018 at 8:53 PM

  20. The Uighurs were doing fine, even if they were poor and relatively undeveloped, until Saudi provocateurs with Saudi money showed up to agitate. Not so different from what happened to Rohingya. Once those Imams come in and start riling up the locals with dreams of Sharia for everyone…no serious state will tolerate that. Ugly as it is. Here, of course, we let them run for Congress.

    Dragonlady

    August 29, 2018 at 11:34 PM

  21. I have a fair number of Muslim “friends” and none of them are stressing out about the Uighurs. I would call that understandable because of how far away that’s happening to them, but they never pass on a chance to bitch and moan about Europeans being fed up with rapefugees.

    I don’t think there’s anything redeeming about the Islamic religion and community. They’re a bunch of ungrateful bullies. Some of them are nice people but that’s inspite of being a Muslim, not because of it.

    Sid

    August 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM

  22. What would be the American equivalent? Forcing them to eat BBQ ribs and hot dogs and drink Bud Light while singing the anthem and songs like ‘America the Beautiful’? It kind of reminds me of school events and field days back in elementary school when we’d have cookouts and assemblies and sing patriotic songs, except without the beer and with the addition of songs like ‘YMCA’, which wasn’t considered gay back then but just a harmless fun song appropriate for kids. I don’t think American schools even do this sort of thing anymore. This was before multiculturalism become a dominant philosophy in schools. Every kid was forced to participate in these generic American cultural events.

    Tom

    August 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM

    • Do schools still even do the Pledge of Allegiance anymore? We used to do that every morning.

      Tom

      August 30, 2018 at 1:52 PM

  23. Anthony

    September 1, 2018 at 12:35 PM


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