Lion of the Blogosphere

When girls weren’t princesses

An additional thought related to my previous post about gender-equalizing schools in Iceland.

It’s probably an anomaly of modern times that girls are raised to be little princesses. Before the industrial revolution, when times were hard and it was a struggle to survive, everyone had to be tough and pull their own weight. Only actual royalty had the luxury of raising their daughters to be princesses.

So the Icelandic school where girls are taught to climb trees and not to cry is probably more in line with how girls were historically raised.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 11, 2018 at EST pm

Posted in Males and Females

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  1. If Icelandic school wanted to be more in line with how girls were historically raised, there’d be classes in harvesting crops, churning butter, and making soap and clothing. And for the boys there’d be classes in hunting, fishing, and plowing.

    Oh, I’m sorry, did I accidentally bring up reality?

    njguy73

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • There was a practical division of labor, women did tasks they could do while looking after young children, while men did tasks that required leaving children behind (like hunting) or labor that benefited from greater physical strength. But women would still chip in by doing physically demanding tasks when it made sense. Harvesting crops, which you said was woman’s work, is still pretty physically demanding.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Whatever. I made my point.

        njguy73

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Depends on the crop. Women harvested Indians’ corn, squash and pumpkin when early explorers arrrived.

        Mrs Stitch

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • Because of the ubiquity of labor-saving devices like the washing machine, dishwasher, and vacuum cleaner, we’ve forgotten how laborious household chores used to be. In particular, I’m given to understand that washing clothes by hand was an extremely strenuous process. (Notice how we don’t say that someone has washboard abs anymore because no one knows what a washboard is anymore; instead we say six pack abs because everyone knows what a six-pack is.) Not to mention that without such plenty as we have today, you had to mend old clothes by hand instead of buying new ones. Women used to expend huge amounts of time and energy on these tasks, which have been rendered unnecessary.

      Hermes

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • You are forgetting that women invent work to fill out all available time. Nobody washed dishes before. The dog would lick them clean. One plate was used for the whole family. Laundry was done once a month, some of it once a season. Bath was taken once every one or two weeks. The vacuum cleaner was not needed because there were no carpets, mostly. A broom was used instead. Mending clothes is not strenuous and does not take much time. They still somehow managed to do embroidery to kill time.

        My 2¢

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • You see people talking about how horrible it is that one income can’t sustain a stay at home spouse anymore. I just wonder what they heck they’d do all day. With modern appliances and 24×7 grocery stores it’s just not that hard to keep a household running. As recently as the early 80s sourcing good food, prepping it, and keeping stuff in good repair was very time consuming. Now those jobs are a lot easier, and clothing is so cheap people just throw it away rather than mend.

        bobbybobbob

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Bobby, taking care of kids leaves one without much free time. It’s not about washing the clothes.

        Perturabo

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  2. yes, but boys were traditionally raised to be even tougher than girls. It’s the feminization of the boys that I think borders on child abuse.

    amused observer

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  3. lion wrote a teenage girl.protagonist vampire story without telling us!

    https://www.wattpad.com/634689998-layla%27s-rebirth-1-hannah-is-bitten

    fyi typo: Then she felt a sharp pain AS he bit her neck.

    toomanymice

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • That’s correct. Both that I wrote it, and that there’s a typo.

      However, it is not finished (more accurately, barely started but not being worked on), and I am not sure that I’m approaching it the right way.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • The idea of politically correct vampires is very clever.

        toomanymice

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Where did you get the idea that they are politically correct? Vampires are lawful-evil.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • ‘It’s not like the old days when our kind were violent.’

        They’re also fussy about labels just like SJWs.

        toomanymice

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • Wouldn’t a vampire have an anesthetic effect like all other biting creatures? Aren’t vampires supposed to bite while you sleep?

      Toad

      October 12, 2018 at EST am

      • In order for a Vampire to convert a human into a vampire under his control, the human has to be awake when that happens. Everyone know that!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 12, 2018 at EST am

  4. My mother, who was a farm girl, was taught how to kill a chicken. Her two sisters also learned this type of skills.

    That’s real Girl Power!
    Imagine what would happen if somebody proposed teaching these skills nowadays.

    WRB

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • How about killing a pig? A horse? A bull? A tiger? Who did all that?

      My 2¢

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • No doubt that men did all of the dangerous tasks. Women killed less-dangerous animals like chickens.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Medieval women hunting rabbits with ferrets:

        https://imgur.com/euQiSs2

        bobbybobbob

        October 11, 2018 at EST pm

      • Women milked them, I mean the cows and goats, not the men and the chickens, obviously.

        Yakov

        October 12, 2018 at EST am

  5. Speaking about princesses, have you seen that Abby Huntsman has left Fox & Friend week end for The view ! It’s like going straight to the ennemy. I wonder if there is a link with her father, ambassador Huntsman, being implicated on 25th amendment conspiracy ….

    She has changed her look completely and there is an episode when she is saying that, about Melania colonial like white helmet :

    – Yvette Nicole Brown said : “This is a group of people that do not like people that know more than them. They don’t. They revel in not knowing. They revel in not preparing.”

    – Huntsman said : “I actually think it’s different, it’s from the Trump playbook of we don’t care.”

    Not really Trump enthusiasm ….

    Bruno

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • And she said Meghan McCain is like her sister. We saw how incredibly anti-Trump this girl was with all her family. They may even be more so than the Bushes. Bizarre ….

      Bruno

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  6. Of course, most of human history was not only pre-industrial but also pre-agricultural. Not that the girls were raised as princesses then, either. Life was still a struggle to survive, I suppose, although the struggle was less from food shortages, disease, and backbreaking labor than from random violence. Even still, hard to know what that optimizes for. Violence against a man always lowers his reproductive chances, but violence against a woman can potentially lead to more children. Being physically fit enough to run away from danger was probably valuable for women.

    In any event, the “princess” thing does seem like a case of degenerate modernity.

    Blue Tribe Dissident

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  7. For the last time, girls are not “taught” to be princesses. They are genetically predetermined to aspire to it.

    DataExplorer

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • I ‘aspire’ to be Conan the Barbarian but I still show up for my paper pushing mid-management job.

      Jokah Macpherson

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  8. I think feminist types would strongly disapprove of the term Princess for being not only patriarchal, but also classist.

    Roli

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

    • Haha which just proves the point. Men don’t give a shit what you call them.

      Jokah Macpherson

      October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  9. Can’t girls run around and jump and climb (which seems entirely natural), and also pretend to be princesses? It’s nice that little girls want to wear Snow White costumes. It’s pro-femininity.

    Perturabo

    October 11, 2018 at EST pm

  10. In past only rich girls could be taught to be princesses.
    Today all the pretty girls can get a sugar daddy, so they can all be princesses.

    tmmm

    October 12, 2018 at EST am

    • People somehow think that they are special. They think that what is happening during their lives is different from what used to happen before. It amuses me.

      My 2¢

      October 12, 2018 at EST pm


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