Lion of the Blogosphere

Censorship and this blog

When I began blogging, I didn’t censor any posts at all. But as time went on, the vileness of the comments increased. Antisemitic comments increased.

Regarding online antisemitism, it has grown so much during the last 15 years. Back in the early 2000s, Steve Sailer’s blog was at the forefront of HBD writing (after all, Steve Sailer coined the term), and I commented there, and the antisemitism we see today wasn’t there back then.

I had an argument with a blog commenter a few months ago, and unfortunately I can’t find the comments, but he claimed I was being a paranoid Jew, and I said look at the guy who shot up the JCC in Kansas City, it’s only a matter of time before another crazy person does something like that again. Jews aren’t paranoid, they just remember history better than most.

But anyway, there’s a difference between being a publisher versus being a platform. I’m a publisher, so it’s in my right to delete comments I don’t like. Twitter, Facebook, WordPress, the higher level internet providers we seldom think about like the companies who maintain all those domain names, they are platforms that publishers use, and they are the ones who should not be allowed to ban publishers for the content of their speech.

I also don’t think that Con Ed should be allowed to turn off your electricity because of what you say on Twitter. Right now, they don’t, but who knows what the future holds?

So no, it’s not hypocritical of me to censor comments and also argue that big corporations which control the internet should allow free speech.

But after this shooting in Pittsburgh, good luck convincing anyone of the importance of free speech. Libertarians will continue to stupidly insist that free speech is only something that the government can restrict, not corporations. And just about everyone else will approve of the coming crackdowns.

And for this blog: I don’t make any money from this. (I used to make a hundred dollars a month before Google cut off my adwords.) If I stopped deleting comments, then the comment section would just become a vile cesspool of antisemitism, and then I’d stop blogging out of disgust. So comment censorship is necessary to keep this blog running. If you happen to be someone whose comments get frequently censored, then maybe you are reading the wrong blog?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 29, 2018 at 4:44 PM

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  1. Why did google cut you off?

    Joe

    October 29, 2018 at 4:49 PM

    • Google never tells you why. Just a generic message about a web page violating the terms of service.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 5:01 PM

      • That’s fascinating. So google, or someone in their google ads department, opposes your website? I am actually a google shareholder, so in a rather indirect way, I am responsible. Sorry about that.

        The Shepherd

        October 31, 2018 at 3:43 PM

      • Blazing Cat Fur still has ads. But he & his comment monitors really check. I used to be a comment monitor. But some things I didn’t know like, delete any comment naming “John Doe” who had already sued him.

        Now my contribution is a selection of scenic photos to take peoples’ minds off the depressing stuff. They’re only there for a week, then the photos and post are deleted to reduce the chance of a takedown notice. So far so good (over 2 years with this.)

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 8:30 PM

  2. What is the percentage of antisemitic comments you are getting? 1%, 10%, 50%?

    My 2¢

    October 29, 2018 at 4:55 PM

    • Antisemtic comments beget more comments. I would say less than 10% but more than 1%, but if I stopped being vigilant it would skyrocket.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 5:02 PM

  3. the legit reasons to censor comments are:

    1. they’re not comments but ads.

    2. a given commenter is making way too many comments. or a “class” of commenters (such as jew haters) is making 90% of the comments or whatever. this is the equivalent of nuisance restrictions on speech in the offline world.

    3. the comments are irrelevant to the post.

    4. the comments reveal the identity of the commenter, the blogger, or some other commenter.

    there are no other legit reasons.

    if a commenter is making credible threats then call the police. don’t delete his comments.

    any other restrictions are ANTI-democratic and therefore make violence MORE likely.

    the 28th amendment

    October 29, 2018 at 4:56 PM

    • “he comments are irrelevant to the post.”

      And the Jew haters try to link every single post to the Jews.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 5:03 PM

      • You have a right (I might add, a duty) to censor. It’s a bit dodgier with Facebook, Twitter, etc.

        That said, you know what the problem is now – there are unhinged haters out there, whose lives basically revolve around internet hate. What should Twitter and FB do? It’s a money decision – if a place gets a rep for being a neo-Nazi site, normal people won’t go there. It’s like crime in a park.

        I think that shutting down Gab is silly – it wasn’t Gab that caused him to blow up. It was the neo-Nazi sites that he consulted daily. Gab is kind of the Skid Row of the internet.

        gothamette

        October 29, 2018 at 6:40 PM

      • @Gothamette Gab had more use than neo-Nazis. There were, for example, several thousand Moroccans evading Morocco’s censorship on Twitter. You are correct that there are lots of neo-Nazis, but so what.

        Twitter has never been a real money-maker. It doesn’t easily lend itself to advertising. They’re making another stupid decision to remove the “like” function. Never remove functionality! These companies do stupid things.

        I use Pinterest a lot, to gather and organize photos for Blazing Cat Fur’s nightly display. I do nothing remotely political there. But they keep adding things, then removing them. Bad management. But they’ve become like Twitter, eclipsing the competition. Now they are getting arrogant and stupid. They did ban Alex Jones.

        I hear Gab is planning to reopen, on a server in one of islands that will tolerate that sort of thing. Not confirmed.

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 9:02 PM

    • “if a commenter is making credible threats then call the police. don’t delete his comments.”

      That’s a great way to get your blog banned. The police aren’t going to do shit, just like they didn’t do shit when Bowers was ranting on Gab, meanwhile when something does go down and people find his threats on your blog you’ll get de-platformed for hosting it.

      Richard

      October 29, 2018 at 6:03 PM

  4. I’m sure it’s grown, but I remember seeing all the recognizable elements of contemporary antisemitism already being hashed out in the old Gene Expression blog’s comments section way back in ~2001-2002.

    IHTG

    October 29, 2018 at 4:57 PM

  5. Back in the early 2000s, Steve Sailer’s blog was at the forefront of HBD writing (after all, Steve Sailer coined the term), and I commented there

    Your mind is playing tricks on you. Sailer’s blog didn’t have a comments section until December 2006.

    https://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/12/malcolm-gladwell-strikes-back.html

    Fiddlesticks

    October 29, 2018 at 5:00 PM

    • Hmm… Maybe it was Gene Expression.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 5:04 PM

      • That place could get pretty crazy. I think some of the first white nationalists to ever participate in any blog discussion anywhere got their start there. It was right around when the infamous second book in Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy became well-known and there was a lot of passion going around.

        Razib and Godless Capitalist (I wonder where that guy is now) humored those guys for a long time and even hired additional bloggers to post more about politics, but eventually Razib got tired of that stuff, dropped the hammer and became strictly science-only.

        IHTG

        October 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM

      • and it’s not just the comments. sailer himself has become an anti-semite by ADL/SPLC standards.

        the 28th amendment

        October 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM

      • I do not think Sailer is an antisemite. I do think that he and many others were radicalized by the Iraq War era in a way that has become unhelpful. It was absurd to see him still bloviating about “neocons” years into the Obama presidency.

        In general, I think the right loses the plot on a lot of things because of a fixation on past struggles that are no longer relevant. You see guys ranting about the harmful effects of watching television when young people are watching less TV than ever, or ranting about black criminals as if we’re still in the 1980s. They’re not just fighting the current culture war, they’re fighting every culture war that has happened since the day they were born, all mixed up into one self-contradictory mess. You can’t win with that lack of focus.

        IHTG

        October 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM

      • “sailer himself has become an anti-semite by ADL/SPLC standards.”

        That’s not saying much. One would have to go pretty low indeed to limbo under their bar.

        destructure

        October 29, 2018 at 9:37 PM

  6. yeah. lion might “curate” his comments for quality, but that’s a yuge waste of time.

    best is the blog owner doesn’t read his comments.

    trolls starve without food.

    the 28th amendment

    October 29, 2018 at 5:02 PM

  7. I can see why you want to curate your comments. But it slows things down around here. You should try to sort through comments more frequently so we don’t have to wait so long for replies.

    Rosenmop

    October 29, 2018 at 5:12 PM

    • So you don’t have to wait so long? How about ‘thanks for this free, great thing’. I won’t even do business with people with white Liberal self-hatred, y’all niggaz expect this dude to run a platform – for no money – that shits all over his people? Whinging about censorship … ingrates.

      JamesJames Mormont

      October 29, 2018 at 10:31 PM

      • I guess I’m used to other places where my post appears immediately. Places such as West Hunter, or Blazingcarfur. If they get trolls posting they probably block them and erase their posts.

        I’m in the Pacific time zone. I’ve noticed that anything I post after 7 or 8 pm (10 or 11 pm Eastern time) usually won’t appear until the next day. But as you say, it is not a service I am paying for so it doesn’t make much sense to complain. I can always go over to reddit–there are people posting there 24 hours a day. But there are so many stupid people and social justice warriors there. I usually end up getting called racist or nazi for suggesting something like, say, that intelligence is genetic. It is difficult to find any topic of discussion these days that doesn’t split along some sort of left/right line.

        Rosenmops

        October 30, 2018 at 1:26 AM

      • @Lion @Rosenmops If comments weren’t vetted, the site would be to frustrating to read. 9pm Pacific is midnight in the east.

        Blazing Cat Fur relies on a system that automatically finds the most obvious ones and holds them. He uses WordPress with Disqus commenting.

        He also isn’t the only one blogging or monitoring comments. Someone in Halifax can be checking while we’re fast asleep. Readers report them too.

        The primitive WordPress commenting system can’t find possible bad ones nor does it permit reader flagging

        And it doesn’t have a comment moderation system. The one for Disqus is quite good.

        Unz and NYT have this thing where if you’ve made X number of comments and none were nuked, your comments appear right away. Both are custom commenting systems.

        I don’t think it’s possible with WordPress. But Lion could consider Disqus. It’s a lot better, as I’ve noted. You could delegate monitoring comments to trusted readers. Letting them be comment monitors doesn’t give them any access to WordPress itself.

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 1:51 AM

  8. My posts only get censored for putting in too much personal information. I don’t really object to that, as I’ve said in the past, I see it as largely benevolent. I think there’s also some degree of need, or at least utility, to keeping things ‘on topic’. I kind of wanted to post about social class as it relates to my recent vacation, but felt like it would just be hijacking conversations about various current events items.

    If we applied the same arguments about keeping conversations on topic to platforms like Twitter or Facebook, we’d have to ask what the topic is. Clearly there are vast differences between an individual participating in an endeavor, and a gigantic corporation involved in the same field of endeavor. In practical terms, a mega-corp functions more like a government than like an individual. Doesn’t it seem natural that the laws regulating huge corporations which interact with millions of people each day should be more like the laws regulating governments than the laws regulating individuals?

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    October 29, 2018 at 5:13 PM

    • Another blogger I know (using Tumblr with Disqus) is now creating open threads for people to discuss any topic at all.

      He’s made his blog unsearchable. You can do that with Tumblr. So newcomers are always friends of existing commenters. They can’t find the blog with Google,

      Frau Katze

      October 31, 2018 at 2:02 AM

  9. I remember seeing a few Jew-hate comments on Steve Sailor’s blog when i first heard about HBD (maybe 8 years ago, but I’m not sure), but there weren’t many. They seemed irrational to me so I complained about them, in a comment, and was referred to your old blog. I was told it was Jew-friendly HBD.

    The negative things said about certain other groups didn’t bother me so much because they seemed to be based in reality. I don’t recall ever seeing comments advocating violence against anyone on Steve Sailor’s blog.

    I frequent Blazingcatfur.ca and Weaselzipper.com, both very non-PC but Jew-friendly, especially Blazingcatfur.ca.

    Rosenmop

    October 29, 2018 at 5:22 PM

  10. I never thought Lion was that overbearing with the censorship, but a number of other commenters (including a few who are bloggers that I highly respect) seem to think otherwise. So I’ll leave it at that.

    Lion, you’ve put in the most value to create this blog, and this blog doesn’t belong to anyone else (well maybe some of the electronic aspects do), so it’s your prerogative at the end of the day as far as who to censor and not to censor. I’m as big a free speech advocate as they come, but there are some private spaces where it’s completely appropriate to moderate some forms of speech.

    GondwanaMan

    October 29, 2018 at 5:22 PM

  11. The recent uptick in antisemitism is due almost totally to the extremely dynamic content created by Andrew Anglin at the Daily Stormer. He is a brilliant, virtuosic propagandist who has I think single handedly shaped a lot of the current cultural zeitgeist.

    Two in the Bush

    October 29, 2018 at 5:53 PM

    • Why are there so many explanations except the most direct, which is, to paraphrase Bob Dylan “you know something’s happening but you don’t know what it is, do you Mr Jones?”

      Somebody, I repeat SOMEBODY, is paying to bus protestors to Ferguson, screamers to the US Senate, Antifa to crack monument protestor skulls, media outlets to engage in Kamikaze campaigns against Trump and likely helping caravans to evade American laws using refugee strategies. This kind of coordination isn’t organic and it doesn’t come cheap. And, it has the hallmarks of central coordination.

      If the Neo-Nazis have picked the wrong target now’s the time to help them locate the correct target. Whining about their confusion is pointless.

      Curle

      October 30, 2018 at 12:02 AM

      • A bunch of old people at a worship service in Pittsburgh of all places aren’t masterminds of anything.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 6:18 AM

      • There are a lot of true believers who are happy to do the activist stuff you described without being paid. Maybe some are paid, I don’t know, but most are not.

        Perturabo

        October 30, 2018 at 8:05 AM

    • If that’s true, why do so many anti semitic comments appear in other languages?

      Too simple to blame on a single person.

      Frau Katze

      October 31, 2018 at 12:06 PM

  12. It must x50 for Steve.

    Your blog over the years has been very high quality. I wondered what the price of troll suppression was.

    I love Steve’s “moderated at whim”.
    Do what you wish, never be concerned with anything other than your vision.
    You have nothing to prove.

    Anon

    October 29, 2018 at 6:00 PM

  13. I agree 100%. For a while I thought Jews were sensitive, and they sometimes are, but this sensitivity is for good reason.

    It’s one thing to be critical of Jewish organisations, like AIPAC or ADL for doing things you don’t like. It’s not wrong to ridicule the ADL for listing Pepe the frog as a hate symbol. But many ppl just don’t stop there, they veer over to antisemitism. Suddenly it blurs into Jews this, Jews that. Very stupid.

    Same with Israel, suddenly Jews, Israel, Judaism blur into one thing: “the Jews”. And then the media, the banks, the academia, Frankfurt School, neocons, etc., all blur into a giant conspiracy.

    Antisemites hating Jews are like blacks & feminists hating “white males”, or incels hating “Chads & Stacys”: pure jealousy of someone doing better. Instead of facing reality, they hate the people who make them feel inferior or powerless.

    Maciano

    October 29, 2018 at 6:08 PM

  14. Pittsburgh was the first anti-Jewish shooting at a synagogue in American history. It’s a man-bites-dog story. The reality is America has been incredibly philosemitic, despite most Jewish American pundits arguing against the preferences of most gentile white Americans.

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Censoring antisemitic comments seems counterproductive, as it contributes to paranoia about Jews controlling the media.

    The best blow to Jew-haters would be if an Israeli or Jewish-owned firm agreed to host Gab.

    Dave Pinsen

    October 29, 2018 at 6:36 PM

  15. he claimed I was being a paranoid Jew

    I have thought this before, about both you and some of your commenters, but I suppose the thing is it’s just hard for we non-Jews to understand what you have to deal with.

    S.J., Esquire

    October 29, 2018 at 6:45 PM

  16. The first antisemitism I was exposed to, other than my father’s alcohol laden rants, was a reprint of the protocols of the elders of zion in behold a pale horse by bill cooper. I remember thinking: wtf is this? This obviously has nothing to do with judaism (I was and am fairly well versed in jewish theology).

    toomanymice

    October 29, 2018 at 6:55 PM

  17. …’Libertarians will continue to stupidly insist that free speech is only something that the government can restrict, not corporations.’

    No. I’ve refuted this chestnut here many times. If a corporation or anyone else says or implies they’re a neutral provider to the public they must be non-discriminatory. Now Libertarians and most of their fans are many things. In general, stupid isn’t one of them. When it comes to law, their lawyers know what they’re about.

    …’When I began blogging, I didn’t censor any posts at all.’

    I don’t see that you censor. I do see you control for decorum, which is appropriate unless this place is explicitly a free-for-all. Having co-edited a Libertarian Blog (‘The Libertarian’) for a while I know how time-consuming getting rid of bad-faith comments can be, not to mention comments on how to make a million from home or comments from all those Nigerian princes who want to give us all their money. It’s not perfect (‘Libertarians…stupidly insist’ comment, mebbe?), but we’re human beings and this is not a formal setting. I The commenters seem on the whole intelligent and diverse with out-of-the-box links and data, your comments politely move things along, and I enjoy and learn a lot often with a good laugh which at my age is a blessing. Thank you, Lion.

    …’I also don’t think that Con Ed should be allowed to turn off your electricity because of what you say on Twitter. Right now, they don’t, but who knows what the future holds?’

    Very true. Also why libertarians try and alert people to get rid of or prevent such state coerced oligo-/monopolies. Which is why we have an internet with many providers today.

    Robert

    October 29, 2018 at 7:13 PM

  18. Most of the comments on Sailer concern the supposed hypocrisy of Jews wanting to break all ethno nations except their own (Israel). Is that anti-Semitic to you? I hear arguments both ways.

    As for money, why don’t you set up a Patreon account?

    CamelCaseRob

    October 29, 2018 at 7:53 PM

    • Actual Israeli Jews LOVE Donald Trump.

      Extreme support by liberal Jews for Israel is a antisemitic myth. Only Donald Trump, the guy those liberal Jews hate, has been able to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 9:14 PM

      • How do you predict that the division between the gentile White Right and the Right Wing Jews becomes healed?

        In thinking about this like a game, in terms of likely successful movements, I can’t forsee a future wherein the Right Wing Jews get to both claim Left Wing Jews (for our purposes, defined as any group that has supported broadly impactful Left Wing policies in the USA) and heal the division with the gentile Right Wing. There is too much bad blood between Left Wing Jews and the Gentile White Right.

        Of course, this prediction is only valid absent an unforseen event that eradicates the political currency of one political side (like the Left Wing) and forces that side into submission. Absent such an event, would Right Wing Jews forgo their liberal brethren for principle? This is a serious question, as its difficult to see this decision not being the culmination of all of this drama.

        If you were to pose the same question to the Gentile White Right, I would offer that history has proven over and over again that they will war with one another over principle and every other matter. Though, submission would be a better solution for the future.

        Sam

        October 29, 2018 at 10:41 PM

    • Jews like Soros, who want to break ethno-states, don’t care for the existence of Israel either.

      Yakov

      October 29, 2018 at 9:29 PM

      • Exactly, but most of Sailer’s commenters don’t get that.

        CamelCaseRob

        October 30, 2018 at 7:49 AM

      • I’ve pointed that out many times to Sailer commenters but not a single one has changed their ways. I guess they don’t believe me.

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 9:16 PM

  19. Chateau Heartiste also slide into antisemitism, it used to be mainly about men women relationships with a slight antisemitic bend but now it is mainly antisemitic crap full of anger rather than the light hearted and actually helpful posts of the past.

    Hashed

    October 29, 2018 at 8:08 PM

    • Yeah, Heartiste is nearly unreadable now. I was a big fan — for the sharp observations of human behavior, sexuality and relationships –and I have it bookmarked, and will periodically return to see what’s new. Lately, and I mean for at least a couple of years now, I get turned off by the frank anti-semitism and feel like I have to take a shower to get ride of the stench.

      Kosher Kowboy

      October 30, 2018 at 10:32 AM

      • It’s sad how that blog deteriorated. Now days, it seems no matter what the post topic is about, the comments are all about Jews.

        Mike Street Station

        October 30, 2018 at 9:02 PM

  20. I read your blog regularly, and have done so since you were halfsigma. So keep rejecting the antisemites and keep posting. You make my day better, and I thank you for it.

    PS. You have deleted my comment at least once, but I don’t care.

    Bob Sykes

    October 29, 2018 at 8:41 PM

  21. Con Ed has a legal monopoly. Social media platforms do not. Remember that before there was FB there was Myspace and before there was Google there was Navigator and then Yahoo. Both IBM and MSFT faced anti-trust suits because they were ‘monopolies’. Until they weren’t.

    Dave

    October 29, 2018 at 8:56 PM

    • Just because some very very early websites failed doesn’t mean that anyone can compete against Facebook now.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 9:17 PM

  22. ” Libertarians will continue to stupidly insist that free speech is only something that the government can restrict, not corporations. ”

    Libertarians know that companies can restrict speech. They just think companies can’t be forced not to restrict. I am not sure what that comment means. Do you mean companies don’t have to follow the first amendment?

    Do you think the Incorporation Doctrine is valid? I don’t think it really is. States can restrict speech if you really follow the Constitution. The 1st Amend said Congress cannot abridge speech, not the states. We need an amendment to get free speech to apply to the states.

    ttgy1

    October 29, 2018 at 9:00 PM

  23. Great blog, Lion, and the only one I flow. I’m addicted to it and need help.

    Yakov

    October 29, 2018 at 9:32 PM

  24. Relevant:

    IHTG

    October 29, 2018 at 9:36 PM

    • It sounds as if white nationalism is some sort of crazy cult. What binds these people together? Why do they hate Jews so much? There aren’t all that many Jews in the world, and most of them seem to look and act like white people. I just don’t get it.

      I understand being worried about, say, Muslims. They are known to blow stuff up, throw acid, rape women, and form enclaves into which the police are afraid to enter. And there are a lot of Muslims in the world.

      There are almost 1.5 billion Chinese. And China has been saber-rattling, building a giant aircraft carrier. . I’m honestly afraid they will try to take over the world. They have already colonized two major cities in Canada and are buying up land all over the place. . Maybe their plan is to form a majority in Canada and then take over.

      Then there are hoards of people in Mexico, and further south, who want to move north, If all these people move in, than our countries will become like the places they left–that is my biggest fear. If they just acquired the world view of old-line Canadians when they crossed the border, it wouldn’t matter if they came. But they are violent and corrupt, and there is no reason to believe that will change just because they move somewhere else.

      Why in the world are the white nationalists so obsessed with Jews? There are only about 14,000,000 Jews in the world. They have formed the only civilized country in the middle East, They win lots of Nobel prizes. They aren’t flying planes into buildings or forming violent enclaves where non Jews fear to enter, or preaching hate against other groups. Muslims are doing all these things, and there are a lot more Muslims than Jews.

      I think the Jew hating white nationalists are simply crazy and stupid.
      The anti-jihad blogs, on the other hand, make some pretty good points. There are quite a few anti jihad blogs and they are very friendly toward Jews, I’m sure far more people on the right, especially any one who has been in the military, might be worried about Muslims, but not Jews.

      I suspect that in the USA the Jew-hating white nationalist make up only a tiny traction of people on the right. There are probably a lot more Jew haters on the left. Louis Farrakhan and Linda Sarsour , for example, have a big following and get a pass from MSM.

      Rosenmops

      October 30, 2018 at 2:55 AM

      • Rosenmops: Modernity is at odds with human nature in many ways and the need to put a face on that is understandable. Why don’t we live in tight-knight communities anymore? Why don’t we have children anymore? Why don’t we recoil at foreign hordes?

        The answer is complex, but there are a lot of easy ways to attach Jews to these changes.

        IHTG

        October 30, 2018 at 6:34 AM

      • *tight-knit

        IHTG

        October 30, 2018 at 6:35 AM

      • Why do they hate Jews so much? There aren’t all that many Jews in the world, and most of them seem to look and act like white people. I just don’t get it.

        Most of these people’s only interaction with Jews is with the Gentile hating liberal atheist Jews at national papers or Hollywood. Every Jew they run into hates them and they have a tough time reconciling social media is not real life.

        everybodyhatesscott

        October 30, 2018 at 10:25 AM

      • It would not be an exaggeration to say that the greatest volume of Jew-criticism by any single media figure emanates from a Jew, Michael Savage. When he caustically lambastes lawyers for almost single-handedly ruining our society (from what it was in, say, 1966), he invariably singles out Jewish lawyers, always using a yiddish inflection to do so. And it’s probably not unreasonable of him to focus that way. It seems like every time you hear of a lawyer representing some anti-social weasel, he or she is Jewish. Just yesterday, a commenter here mentioned the perps shot by Bernhard Goetz. So I googled them and sure enough, all the defense lawyers were Jewish. In my own backyard, it was a jewish lawyer representing that JC professor who brained the Trump supporter in Berkeley with a bike lock.

        Jeez

        October 30, 2018 at 10:38 AM

      • There are lots of Jews in NYC so like half the lawyers in NYC are Jewish, and saying this is some sort of sinister plot by Jews is a perfect example of anti-Semitism. Goetz’ lawyer was also Jewish. Trump’s lawyers are Jewish. Dinesh D’Souza’s lawyer was Jewish, but he was prosecuted by another Indian, Preet Bharara, But in the trenches of the NYC District Attorney’s office, the DAs, that is most of the people putting the criminals in jail, are Jewish. One could look at all the Jews in the DA’s office and come to the opposite conclusion, that there’s Jewish conspiracy in favor of law and order.

        In the 1960s, there were probably more Jewish defense attorneys because the Big Law firms discriminated against the Jews in favor of WASPs, so the Jews had to work in less prestigious areas of the law like criminal law.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 3:43 PM

      • Were it not for Christianity, Judaism probably would have remained a somewhat obscure religion, but the codification of the christian canon foisted Jews into an eventual global spotlight that did them no favors. Jews and the rabbinate are depicted in a particularly unfortunate manner in the new testament, Jesus repeatedly condemns Jews and Israel (the fig tree is a metaphor for Israel) in the vein of the prophets- who declare all kinds of dreadful edicts upon Israel for her lack of fidelity to the Torah. But this will be misunderstood by your average christian as “Jesus said Jews/rabbis are bad.” At one point he likens the rabbis to coffins- clean on the outside but corpses on the inside. This is no worse than anything said in prophets (nevi’im) who repeatedly compare Israel to an adulteress and prostitute, but Christians will be quick to take this out of context and draw their own conclusions.

        Look at the history of passion plays, even contemporary ones like Jesus Christ Superstar. The rabbinate is depicted as a villainous den that willingly takes upon a blood libel for an entire people. Even if Christianity is not what it once was, the sentiment has stuck. It doesn’t help that so many Jews are entrenched in hollywood so an antisemitic leaning mind will make further leaps.

        I don’t say any of this to bash Christianity, just pointing it out.

        toomanymice

        October 30, 2018 at 11:46 AM

      • Yes, racism can be a mental disorder.

        Steverino@Steverino.com

        October 30, 2018 at 1:14 PM

      • In the future, people who post politically incorrect tweets will be committed to mental institutions. Just like they used to do in the USSR!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 3:31 PM

      • @ too many mice:

        But Jesus was a Jew.

        Rosenmop

        October 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM

      • rosenmops, most christians don’t know or care. There is also a line of christian apologetics that claims jesus was never technically jewish.

        toomanymice

        October 30, 2018 at 5:23 PM

      • One also sees lapses of logic. Jews are blamed for Communism. Alexander Solzhenitsyn did so.

        But the Nazis and others said there were entirely too many Jews running successful businesses. Something needed to done! Seize the businesses, kill the owners.

        It’s almost as if there can’t be a plotting Jewish conspiracy because obviously all Jews don’t agree with each other.

        Check out Ayn Rand (born Alisa Zinovyevna Rosenbaum) and her opinion of Leon Trotsky (born Lev Davidovich Bronstein).

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 12:25 PM

  25. Lion, how about explaining exactly how you moderate comments? Is there any sort of automation in place? I’ve had comments which were not anti-Semitic, but did mention Jews, fail to be posted, presumably because you have a hair trigger for antisemitism and assume any mention of Jews must be antisemitic. But then there are seemingly nonsensical posts which make it through, indicating you haven’t glanced at them at all, or the infamous comments containing questions which you don’t answer or even acknowledge.

    Hermes

    October 29, 2018 at 10:06 PM

    • Any mention of Jews steers the conversation into antisemitism and is not appreciated in posts which have nothing to do with Jews.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 29, 2018 at 11:27 PM

  26. Sailer is more lax about anti-Semitic and bigoted and hostile comments in general than he used to be. Also he lets frequent commenters comment without any moderation, so that’s how some anti-Semitic comments get through, unlike in the past when he would manually moderate each comment.

    Tom

    October 29, 2018 at 10:34 PM

  27. Con Ed will interrupt your service when you are out of job and move to under the bridge. Adding extra steps in between does not make it different. Freedom of speech on the internet was allowed until it became effective. Notice that freedom of speech on the internet stopped within several years, almost simultaneously, in such different countries as China, Russia, and the US.

    My 2c

    October 29, 2018 at 10:39 PM

  28. Pittsburgh doesn’t change anything, except if you are looking for a pretext.

    Meanwhile every day minorities kill whites, yet diversity is still our strength!

    guest

    October 29, 2018 at 11:29 PM

    • It changes a lot for Jews, who no longer FEEL safe.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 30, 2018 at 6:15 AM

      • Lion, that’s the definition of paranoia.

        everybodyhatesscott

        October 30, 2018 at 3:45 PM

      • So people opposed to Muslim immigration because there was a terrorist attack once, they are PARANOID?

        Or are only Jews paranoid?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 5:05 PM

      • Islamists have committed a lot more than one terrorist attack. But that’s never been my main concern. I oppose all immigration. In fact, I’m on record on your blog opposing european immigration as well. Still, there are special reasons for opposing muslim immigrants in particular. It’s a supremacist religion that commands its followers to conquer the world in the name of Islam. Surveys show that a majority of muslims support shariah law and making infidel subservient. And they’re doing terrible things to other religions as well as other sects. Why even let that crap gain a foothold?

        destructure

        October 30, 2018 at 7:50 PM

      • No. We cant kick out every anti semite. We can prevent muslim terrorists from moving here. Every immigrant Muslim terrorist attack could be prevented by not letting them move here in the first place. Theres always going to be homegrown hate and terrorism. Let’s not import more from groups that are prone to it.

        There’s a lot of paranoid whites. I’d guess Jews are slightly more paranoid than whites and paranoia correlates with higher iq.

        everybodyhatesscott

        October 30, 2018 at 10:38 PM

      • “No. We cant kick out every anti semite.”

        But we can shut down their access to social media. (“We” is not you and I, but the people who run the big corporations.)

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 11:28 PM

      • But we can shut down their access to social media.

        Which I’d guess is ultimately bad for Jews. The biggest social media network is run by a Jew. It plays exactly into the ‘shut it down’ meme and the confirmation bias will make sure people notice (((who))) shuts them down every time. As social media has been getting more locked down, anti-antisemitism has been going up.

        everybodyhatesscott

        October 31, 2018 at 12:13 PM

      • I’ve come out in favor of free speech over and over again. Just saying, it can be suppressed, and suppression really does work.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 31, 2018 at 12:14 PM

  29. I had an argument with a blog commenter a few months ago, and unfortunately I can’t find the comments, but he claimed I was being a paranoid Jew, and I said look at the guy who shot up the JCC in Kansas City, it’s only a matter of time before another crazy person does something like that again. Jews aren’t paranoid, they just remember history better than most.

    That was me. And I stand by it. One guy shooting up a synagogue doesn’t mean an epidemic of anti-semitism. Someone who thinks otherwise is absolutely paranoid. There’s even a term for it — confirmation bias.

    Having said that, I don’t think anti-semitism is non-existent. But I do think it’s greatly exaggerated. Many jews think there are “anti-semites” hiding under every rock. There’s not. That’s a function of their own prejudice and paranoia. How else can one explain jewish obsession with white “anti-semites” when blacks and hispanics are much more likely to be anti-semitic? Jews are also more likely to be attacked for being white than being jewish. If they spent more time around real blacks and hispanics then they’d figure that out real quick.

    “Entrenched anti-Semitic views” very rare among whites and Asian Americans, common among blacks and Latinos

    How Americans Feel About Religious Groups

    Having said that, there’s a small group of extremists who are very active online. Which gives the impression of their numbers being much larger than they actually are. Gothamette is constantly howling about the alt-right. But the alt-right has completely transformed over the last 3 years. It used to be a collection of more or less normal people who were fed up with the GOPe plantation. Even some jews identified with the alt-right.

    Unfortunately, Spencer falsely claimed to have founded the alt-rght and declared himself its de facto leader. His followers hijacked the name by harassing and insulting people who don’t agree with them. The sane alt-right people were turned off until Spencer’s crowd were the only ones left. Even the actual founders have walked away from it. Now the alt-right is a tiny, insignificant fringe. Do you know why? Because only a tiny, insignificant number of people agree with them.
    **
    I’m fed up with paranoid jew and nazi wannabes obsessing over each other when there are much bigger fish to fry. It’s fighting in a burning house. That’s why I don’t go to those blogs. And when Leon brings it up I want to punch him in the nuts. It’s his blog. He can write whatever he wants. And he doesn’t have to allow my comments. I’ve never said otherwise. But that’s my opinion.

    destructure

    October 29, 2018 at 11:30 PM

    • I agree with a lot of that history, but the alt-right/alt-light split happened because of pressure from non-anti-Semites for anti-Semites to not embarrass the movement. Spencer and his crew got kicked out of the movement they helped found, but they managed to keep the name “alt-right”, by dubbing the people who kicked them out, “the alt-light”.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      October 30, 2018 at 11:07 AM

    • “Epidemic” is sort of a red herring. The issue isn’t the synagogue shooting in isolation, but in connection with online anti-Semitism, which the shooter was tied to.

      Anyone who follows politics online, especially right wing politics, can see that online anti-Semitism has increased significantly over the past 20 years, and really took off with social media.

      In the 90s, before the internet became very mainstream and widespread, most anti-Semitic ideas were concentrated among small, isolated physical groups like militias and far right groups and affiliated low rent publishers who would print neo-Nazi style literature. It was difficult for most ordinary people to come into contact with anti-Semitic ideas and literature unless they physically made contact and associated with these small isolated groups.

      Once the internet became widespread, it was much easier for people to come into contact with anti-Semitism, although it was largely confined to specific sites and forums like Stormfront and contained there during the first decade of the 2000s.

      With the rise of social media however, anti-Semitic ideas have been spread much more widely over the past decade.

      Tom

      October 30, 2018 at 3:29 PM

      • “Anyone who follows politics online, especially right wing politics, can see that online anti-Semitism has increased significantly over the past 20 years, and really took off with social media.”

        Exactly 100% correct.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 30, 2018 at 3:36 PM

  30. Do you have some theory why antisemitism has increased in last 15 years?

    And what counts as antisemitism? Criticism of judean faith or sionistic movement (and not jews as a race)? Criticism of Israel?

    tmmm

    October 30, 2018 at 5:39 AM

    • I’m thinking that maybe this antisemitism is some kind of backslash of political correctness? When I was a kid back in 80’s here in Northern Europe it was more or less ok to make a joke where you made “soap out of jews”. Just back humour, maybe tasteless, but without any antisemitism included. Nowdays you cannot do that anymore. Instead harmless jokes, now there’s real antisemitism.

      tmmm

      October 30, 2018 at 5:48 AM

    • This is one thing that tends to increase as time goes by. It is just the way it is.

      My 2c

      October 30, 2018 at 10:48 AM

    • It’s pretty obvious why. The internet, especially social media, allows for highly motivated fanatics to dominate a medium and spread their ideas. You don’t need a lot of fanatics. A small number of them who spend all their time online, especially if they’re unemployed or underemployed, can do it.

      Tom

      October 31, 2018 at 12:50 AM

    • There’s a lot more Muslims in the West and the number is only increasing. It’s worse in Europe. The UK Labour Party has been lost to the antisemites. A few vocal whites, a lot of approving Muslims. They reinforce each other.

      The whites are too stupid to see that they’re in the Muslims’ sights too.

      I should add that not every Muslim hates Jews, but it is very common. One thing the utopians never thought of was that the masses of third world immigrants would bring their intolerance with them. The consequences are becoming visible.

      Frau Katze

      October 31, 2018 at 12:54 PM

  31. It’s happening:

    IHTG

    October 30, 2018 at 6:21 AM

    • Lol. I was depressed for awhile after the FBI found a low IQ loon to take the fall for the fake mail bomb scare. Not anymore. Trump has a spine, he knows how to deal with the lying media, and an election is approaching. This guy never disappoints. I can’t wait for the post election nervous breakdowns.

      Only on the internet

      October 30, 2018 at 5:20 PM

  32. I follow a facebook page called “Campaign against Anti-Semitism” and whenever they post a story about someone saying something critical of Jews or Israel (from either the Left or the Right), all the comments below say “how dare he say that, we have to get him censured now”. Never once does anybody say “we need to debate him and show him how he is wrong” which is puzzling considering that Jews are technically the most intelligent race so debating should be their strength. They are literally confirming the “shut it down” meme. When your group has gotten to the point where the one thing they are most notorious for is shutting down free speech, the last thing they should be seen to be doing is confirming that stereotype. Right now there are videos on youtube showing a truck helping transport the migrant caravan with a star of David on the side of it, which is fueling a conspiracy that Jews are behind the migrant caravan. I have not seen any Jews trying to debunk this conspiracy, but I have seen some of these videos being taken down from the internet. All this does is confirm to most people that the conspiracy is probably true. I am not a holocaust denier, but by far the strongest argument that the deniers have is the fact that people have been put in jail for denying the official account. If it is illegal to say something that often indicates that something is being purposefully hidden. So why engage in all this censorship? All it does is confirm to people the stereotypes they already hold.

    DataExplorer

    October 30, 2018 at 9:09 AM

    • The vast majority of Jews don’t even understand what the conspiracy is supposed to be because they don’t read Stormfront. Responding to a fringe movement only empowers that movement by making them seem more powerful.

      You also have Christian groups that help refugees, but you don’t see the same people saying there’s some vast Christian conspiracy, even though the Pope himself is outspoken in favor of open borders. Unless people think that the Pope himself is secretly controlled by Joo mind control.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 30, 2018 at 10:18 AM

      • “Responding to a fringe movement only empowers that movement by making them seem more powerful.”

        I disagree, the Alt Right is a growing movement. And seeing as the forces at play that are causing the movement to grow are only getting worse (i.e. Leftist SJW derangement in the media and academia and continued growth in third world groups living in the West), my prediction for the future is that it will continue to grow.

        The Alt Right is correct about a lot of things and because they are not challenged by anyone in the mainstream it allows their ideas to go unchallenged (both the ideas they have right and the ideas they have wrong). It is better to try to nip this conspiracy theory in the bud whilst the movement is relatively small.

        The current tactic of the Alt Right is to ignore the Leftists and focus on recruiting from mainstream, conservatives. This is dangerous as it is the Left that needs to be woken up to reality. The middle ground is disappearing and we will end up with extremists on both sides.

        DataExplorer

        October 30, 2018 at 11:04 AM

      • DataExplorer,

        Good analysis. If the left of center mainstream establishment actually challenged the Alt-Right to a debate, they would hand over a huge victory. Only the Right can effectively marginalize the Alt-Right. The Right used to do that until the left called everyone on the Right a NAZI one too many times.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        October 30, 2018 at 2:19 PM

      • Of course the Pope is under control! Everyone knows that!

        I spent quite a while reading Middle East news while blogging. There nothing the Ayatollahs in Iran won’t blame on Israel.

        Lake Urnia is drying up because the Iranians diverted too much river water for irrigation? Nonsense. The Mossad can control weather! They use cloud seeding to prevent rain from getting to the area.

        It’s scarcely believable. Far more outlandish accusations than you’ll ever hear from Stormfront.

        Frau Katze

        October 31, 2018 at 9:40 PM

      • Maybe they don’t read stormfront but they do read the NY Times where Michelle Goldberg wrote an op-ed that we can replace white nationalists with immigrants. Of course, if pressed Michele Goldberg would never admit to a definition of “white nationalist” that doesn’t include basically all white people. In reality, white nationalists are a tiny number – not a voting majority – unless you’re using an expansive definition.

        People do notice the NY Times.

        Steve Johnson

        October 31, 2018 at 10:07 PM

  33. There is no organized WN in the US. In fact, the only people claiming as such are deeply influenced by jewish thinking. Absolute straw man. Always was. What little WN is in the public sphere is only spouted by back water hicks and townies, that no one takes seriously, because they have no political power. WN only resides in the minds of people who spend a disproportionate amount of time on social media. SM’s SJW narrative is always on full blast. A huge part of that narrative would collapse without the WN boogyman, which again does not exist IRL. This is exactly why jewish thinking people work very hard to define community pride as WN. Because community pride is still holding, barely (except in Utah). They want it killed and replaced with progressive central planning from ACELA. Guess where jewish thinking people are heavily concentrated. PCP is opposed to independent regional banking and county level government.

    SM has successfully programmed a population of NPCs to believe racism is everywhere. WN and racism are the same. According to NPCs and their programmers, WN is everywhere. Yet it can’t be seen or heard anywhere (except larping events spurred by the FBI, attended by goofs). In fact, it’s illegal to think otherwise! To notice the obvious is an outcasting offense.

    WN is a straw man. Own it.

    As far as I’m concerned, we don’t want to associate with the Michelle Goldberg’s of ACELA. Free association. We don’t want that kind of thinking imposed on our children. Call me a racist antisemite all you want. It won’t change the fact that that way of thinking is destabilizing, disagreeable, and deeply neurotic and it’s at the center of progressive central planning. At odds with community. Keep it in ACELA. We don’t want it.

    Only on the internet

    October 30, 2018 at 11:48 AM

    • Id probably disagree with this if i knew what it meant.

      Tanturn

      October 30, 2018 at 1:48 PM

      • The liberals and the left have been very successfully in attacking and silencing conservatives with a racist, nazi, homophobe, or sexist label, both online or in the media. The word, fascist, seems to be the latest lefty label. Social media magnifies this tactic while simultaneously titillating the literate insane to commit atrocious acts. The worthy warriors and the evil insane both become infamous in an unfair and binary world.

        cesqy

        October 30, 2018 at 5:47 PM

      • I understood it and agree with him.

        destructure

        October 31, 2018 at 12:31 AM

    • Too many acronyms. I don’t understand your comment. Define acronyms before using them.

      Frau Katze

      October 31, 2018 at 12:58 PM

  34. My opinion is that you don’t censor that much. You have allowed me to speak many times about Keven McDonald who is the most extreme and systematic antisemite as well as Unz – who is effectively advocating against Jewish interests by saying Jewish disproportionately don’t deserve their admission in Ivy.

    For some people antisemitism is like a mental illness that takes control of their entire personality.

    Bruno

    October 30, 2018 at 5:09 PM

    • The killer axed defenseless old people – most more than 80 yo – and two 50ish brothers living together who were adopted by the community and were mentally deficient. This article present the brothers :

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/rosenthal-brothers-cecil-david-1.4883364

      Any person thinking those people were part of a conspiracy are plain crazy.

      Bruno

      October 31, 2018 at 3:56 AM

  35. For some people antisemitism is like a mental illness that takes control of their entire personality.

    That’s what Kritzinger said too.

    Can't We All Just Get Along?

    October 31, 2018 at 12:47 AM

  36. Thanks for the Kritzinger’s warning. I didn’t know it. It’s mildly different, more general, to what I said, because it’s about the ubiquity of passions in general. I see antisemitism like more metastasis.

    About censorship, I have a twitter accound where I can post some comments like here. Nothing extreme but not PC either. Richard Brody, whose intelligence and sensibility I really admire, wrote a nasty critique about First Man. There were plenty of alt-right and Trumpist trashing him. I wrote to those people 1) how much they misunderstood Brody’s point and that their were far away of apreciating the “sophistication” of Brody point of view and 2) a personal critic of Brody’s point of view. The day after, I discovered with my other twitter account that I had been blocked by Richard Brody (but not the low IQ Trumpists).

    So despite an allegiance to Brody’s intelligent, the critic and the HBD point of view was really not welcomed and I got kicked out at speed light. The liberal point of view has a standing – in their own mind – wich is the same as a catholic teologian in XVth century spain or of a Wahabit cleric today.

    Bruno

    October 31, 2018 at 11:28 AM

  37. Today is the first day I’ve looked at your blog in a long time. Nearly a year, I think. Concidentally this was one of your recent posts.

    The fact is you delete comments that express disagreement or criticism toward Jewish-identifying posters. Those were the only comments of mine you ever rejected, and you did it several times. They were not anti-Semitic. You just didn’t like them.

    To be clear, you are right that there is a lot of ant-Semiticism on the right. You are also right to moderate your comments however you see fit. I don’t know how you should do things, but I do know that I don’t like the way you moderate comments. I think it goes overboard.

    Lowe

    November 5, 2018 at 8:54 AM

    • I haven’t gone overboard at all. Experience shows that once Jews are mentioned at all, the anti-Semites come out and the whole comment thread becomes a Jew-hating fest. So these things need to be stomped out by the roots before they grow.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 5, 2018 at 10:17 AM


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