Lion of the Blogosphere

Ruth Bader Ginsburg in hospital

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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/politics/Supreme-Court-Justice-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-Broken-Ribs-Fall-500036692.html

I bear her no ill will, she seems like a nice person despite being a liberal.

But from personal family experience, when women her age fall and break something, they often aren’t able to recover from it. My maternal grandmother died from complications from falling, and my paternal grandmother had a stroke after she fell and was never the same again.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 8, 2018 at EST am

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  1. At least she didn’t break her hip. It just amazes me that some people in high positions never want to retire but just keep working as long as they can. Maybe power is like a drug.

    Rosenmops

    November 8, 2018 at EST am

    • She hasn’t worked in years. She’s been handed pens and shown where to sign other’s paperwork. Then the nurses bring her applesauce.

      gauche potato

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • I believe I made a similar comment on a previous post about Ginsberg. I’ve been fantasizing about being able to live comfortably without working since I was about 15 years old (i.e., before I even had to work.) Retirement has always seemed like the Holy Grail to me, so it amazes me that there are people who want to keep working. Maybe if you’re the type of person who cares about having a self-actualizing career, being a Supreme Court Justice is the ultimate self-actualizing career.

      Hermes

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • “being a Supreme Court Justice is the ultimate self-actualizing career.”

        Correct! That’s why Kavanaugh refused to drop out.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Yeah, I thought about that when I was 15. Then when I was 24, I spent over 6 months unemployed, and hated it. Now I plan to keep working till I die.

        You think The Lion blogs for the money? No. It’s something to do. Which do you think he’d rather do:
        1. Blog about the Supreme Court.
        2. Be a Justice on the court, and write the decisions (instead of blog posts about the decisions).

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • I would choose #2!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • @MoreSigmasThanYou, that may be, but I’m guessing when you were unemployed at 24, you didn’t have a six-figure government pension or a multimillion-dollar investment portfolio, and thus had the stress of worrying about how you were going to support yourself for the rest of your life.

        Of course Lion doesn’t blog for money, he has a boring day job for money. Of course most people would choose number 2 over number 1, but what if there was a number 3: live comfortably off a six-figure government pension or multimillion-dollar investment portfolio, blog about the Supreme Court, play video games, go fishing, enjoy a nice leisurely stroll through the neighborhood to get a cup of coffee and a bagel at 10 a.m. on a Tuesday when all the other poor schmucks are slaving away at work, and generally do whatever you want whenever you feel like it. I would choose number 3 over number 2 any day of the week.

        Incidentally, Lion once posted that he quit his day job, then posted more than a year later about going back to the same job as a contractor rather than salaried employee, but he has always avoided answering any readers’ questions about what else he was doing during that time.

        Hermes

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • I’m guessing when you were unemployed at 24, you didn’t have a six-figure government pension or a multimillion-dollar investment portfolio, and thus had the stress of worrying about how you were going to support yourself for the rest of your life.

        I took a year off when I was 27. It was amazing. I could generally do whatever I wanted and had no money concerns. I wasn’t rich but I had enough money saved for my generally frugal lifestyle.

        everybodyhatesscott

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • i bear all supremes since hugo black ill as none of them believes in original intent and thus all of them are usurpers.

        sex toys for dogs

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • I didn’t catch that he was working at the same company. I was probably not reading the blog every day at that point. I took a year off at 29, where I was taking Computer Science classes at a top-10 school, and teaching a Jiu-Jitsu class on the side. I totally could have kept doing that instead of more ‘economically productive’ work.

        I’m sure Lion could have been a full time artist if he had the pension/trust-fund/whatever to support it.

        There’s no hobby Ginsburg would enjoy more than being a Supreme Court Justice. It’s not really all that high stress once you’re good at it. The clerks can do everything except sit in your chair for you when you listen to the lawyers talk in court.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Her husband is dead. Her best friend died in 2016. Her kids are busy professionals.

      What should she do, stay home and die knitting?

      owentt

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • She should stay home and play video games. I’m sure she would love Red Dead Redemption 2.

        Hermes

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • At her age staying home is a pretty good idea. I’m sure she can afford servants and nurses and has a beautiful home.

        I am 63 and greatly looking forward to retirement and spending more time with my family and pets and just sitting around in a cozy chair with my dogs or grandkids, reading or browsing the Internet, instead of driving through the snow to work. I don’t hate my job–it is sort of self-actualizing (whatever the hell that means) but I’ve had enough and am ready to quit. If I was rich like RBG I would have quit several years ago. I have hobbies such as sewing and playing a musical instrument. I even have a little web page that I maintain and add too. We have a travel trailer and go camping with our dogs and sometimes grandkids. I would love to have more time for these things.

        Like Hermes, it amazes me that people want to keep working when they have lots of money. I just don’t understand why anyone would want to do that. Don’t they have a life outside of work?

        Rosenmops

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • RBG’s late husband was a BIGLAW partner, and her net worth is probably about $10 million. More than enough to carry her to her 100th birthday.

        If my net worth were $10 million, I don’t see myself going to my job tomorrow, and I’m a lot younger than her.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Your job or her job. Big difference.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • If you go Googling for information about Supreme Court Justices’ pensions, you will find articles stating that, as long as they have served for at least 10 years and are at least 70 when they retire, their pension equal to their full, highest salary. Which for an associate Justice is over $250k a year. So, on top of whatever wealth her husband left her, she also automatically gets $250k every year from the government. That’s more than enough for a nice 65 inch 4K TV, a PS4 Pro, and a copy of Red Dead Redemption 2. Heck, she could spring for the $100 Ultimate Edition.

        Hermes

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Ha ha. Hard to imagine RBG playing Call of Duty on a PS4 Pro.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • That’s why I didn’t say Call of Duty. Why do you act like these fast-twitch shoot-em-ups are the only video games that exist? As I’ve said before, play one with an actual story.

        Hermes

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

    • Doesn’t amaze me. Yes it’s like a drug. Once you get on the ride, it’s hard to get off of it. That’s why strip clubs have ATM machines. What do you think Michael Jordan would do or give up to play one more winning season for the Chicago Bulls?

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • “High positions” doesn’t really describe it. At that level, law is inherently interesting. If your work involves nothing but manipulating abstract concepts, and doing so in a way that’s going to affect how millions live for decades, why wouldn’t you continue no matter how poorly you felt? If I got paid well simply for researching baseball statistics, would I quit just because I was bedridden?

      Vipltd

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • The people who want to retire can’t and the people who can don’t want to.

      Trump is rich and ran for president. Romney at 70 ran for the Senate. Pritzker just won the governorship in Illinois and he is rich and doesn’t need to work.

      Why was Jeff Sessions still working? He has a good pension and I am sure has quite a bit of money saved.

      Why are Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein still in Congress?

      How come Tony Romo wanted to become an announcer. He has plenty of money.

      How come Bill Belichek is still coaching?

      ttgy1

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • She did it on purpose, to avoid Kav’s first day on the court.

      gothamette

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • I actually appreciate this clever response, but I don’t think she super hates Kavanaugh.

        not too late

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Clearly you are new to Lion’s blog, which has the funniest comments on the internets.

        gothamette

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

    • I’m sure she thought she would be retired already. I suspect she was holding out for the Hillary Clinton Presidency so Hillary could pick her replacement. Now, she’s facing keeping herself alive until possibly 2024.

      Mike Street Station

      November 9, 2018 at EST am

      • Right.
        Did I not predict this?

        gothamette

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • At the Root they are offering her a trip to Wakanda for a vibranium rib.

        What a country!!

        gothamette

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • I would be OK if she took a court session off to heal in Wakanda.

        Mike Street Station

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

  2. Wondering how many seconds before Lion talked about this.

    From my personal experience, rib injuries are immobilizing and take a long time to recover from. When I was in my mid 20s, I got a tear in the cartilage that connects floating ribs to the sternum. The day before it I was arguably in the best shape of my life – certainly in the best fighting shape of my life. After that getting out of bed without help prohibitively difficult.

    It took years before I was able to stop worrying about re-injuring rib. And yes I got very good at stopping myself from sneezing or coughing.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    November 8, 2018 at EST am

    • Can confirm, rib injuries are the gift that keeps on giving. I’ve lost track how many time I’ve rebroken my rib. I’ve even figured out the perfect position to sleep in so as not to exacerbate it.

      toomanymice

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

  3. If she is unable to continue to serve in any practical manner, can she continue to hold the seat indefinately until she kicks the bucket? Or can she be forced out?

    DataExplorer

    November 8, 2018 at EST am

    • There are speculating about this over on the Straight Dope Message Board, seriously proposing that she designate a wish to be kept alive indefinitely in a coma just to prevent Trump from replacing her.

      Hermes

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Read about the great William O. Douglas: He had a stroke and wouldn’t leave. The other judges had to form a pact not to let him cast any deciding votes by cancelling all close cases for a year.

      owentt

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Let’s not refer to W.O. Douglas as great. He was a political hack.

        Even after he retired, he would show up at the building and expect to go to “work”.

        bomag

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Douglas was a brilliant civil libertarian and America was lucky to have him on the court as long as we did.

        And yes, after the stroke he was lost but there was no way to get him removed. The same could happen to any justice today except that it could continue for years because 2/3rds the Senate would never agree to end a Supreme term with the opposite party president.

        owentt

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Just looked up the Wikipedia entry on Douglas and learned that he was the source of “penumbras and emanations.” In other words, he was exhibit A in how the Supreme Court has used an expanded reading of the Bill of Rights and the 14th amendment to basically overturn everything about traditional America. I bear him ill will.

        Hermes

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

      • Yes, William O. Douglas is famous!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

      • MEH 0910

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

  4. For the health of our society, what little it has left… Please leave, gracefully.

    I’m not looking forward to the SJW spin about this. The Rs tend to give in, because apparently they have principals, despite loving the saints who fuel their factories.

    gauche potato

    November 8, 2018 at EST am

  5. It’s not just women, “the bad fall” is often the precursor of death or serious decline for all elderly even if not gravely injured.

    My 103 year old grandmother was mentally sharp and reasonably mobile until a fall in a parking lot that broke a rib. She quickly deteriorated mentally and physically and was gone two months later.

    My former neighbor was scrambling up and down ladders like a monkey into his late 80s, did all his own yard work and home repairs. But after a fall that screwed up his knee he was never the same, declined mentally and eventually was shipped off to live with his sister.

    It’s kind of weird how these bad but not terrible injuries seem to trigger mental decline in the elderly.

    I don’t wish her ill either. Maybe whatever robot voodoo is keeping hillary ticking can be applied to ginsburg.

    toomanymice

    November 8, 2018 at EST am

    • It’s kind of weird how these bad but not terrible injuries seem to trigger mental decline in the elderly.

      It could be the reverse – falls are caused by the brain, or other vital body parts, deteriorating.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • I think the cause and effect runs in both directions.

        Falls often happen because of other health problems affecting balance.

        Falls often trigger other complications.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Motor movement seems to keep the other parts of the brain running smoothly. I think I read somewhere that long walks help with Alzheimer’s.

        Perhaps it’s simple bloodflow and oxygenation.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

    • I had a relative who developed a heart problem involving the electrical signaling for the heart. He got a surgery to fix something with the nerves going to the heart. Immediately after that, he got Parkinson’s without a palsy.

      Weird now that I think about it; because his heart beat was fine his whole life until he was an old man.

      Yeah, what everyone else said.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 9, 2018 at EST am

    • Falls are bad, because being immobilized for long periods is extremely bad for health. Even light exercise drastically decreases mortality across almost every major cause. Lying in bad for months on end with a broken hip is just asking for all your major organ systems to decline.

      That’s why it’s very important for every to squat and deadlift heavy when they’re young and can still build up a good base of lower body strength. Falls are significantly less likely if you have strong quads, glutes, hamstrings and hips.

      Doug

      November 9, 2018 at EST pm

  6. “when women her age fall and break something, they often aren’t able to recover from it.”

    3 fx ribs——-> small hemothorax + suppressed cough reflex—–> nosocomial pneumonia——> intubation

    Preemptive Rx : encourage deep breathing and walking, small narcotics, Pneumococcal vaccine.

    Instead, watch for overly aggressive VIP treatment, drainage, fixation, with complications resulting from excess treatment.

    jz

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

  7. My father died at the age of 64 after a fall. He broke his hip, which precipitated a stroke that finished him.

    As for RBG, I bear her plenty of ill will. Any Supreme Court justice who could advise other countries not to use the US Constitution as a model for their own needs to dispatch herself posthaste.

    She is a shonde for the goyim.

    sestamibi

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Not to be a hater, but you guys have lots of shonde for the goyim. I just got de-friended the day of the midterm election for replying to someone’s “white men destroying the country” video with a meme about the shock of whites not voting the way you want after bash them. This was a guy who complains about how his ancestors were subject to the same kind of racial propaganda he was spreading on election day.

      It got me thinking about how I never heard anti-white or anti-American stuff from Jews as a kid, and that got me to looking up Art Spiegelman to see what he was up to. That’s a topic for another post – if this gets past the Jew-bait filter.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • WHY are you posting this? What does it have to do with Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Why does it matter if the person was Jewish, there are lots more gentile liberals who behave like that.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Yes. These are excellent questions. The answer to why it maters is rich and complex, and frankly, a little dysfunctional. A good book to read for background would be “Scapegoats: transferring blame” by Tom Douglas. The book spends a little more than half of its pages discussing the dynamics of one person in a family being a scapegoat.

        The book also explains dynamics of one segment of a society being a scapegoat. Obviously the group that provides the best example would be the Jewish people.

        Humans use our neuro-chemical circuitry to deal with problems involving millions of people. This circuitry was previously developed and evolved to deal with problems involving, at most, dozens of people. Hence the strong crossover between scapegoating in families and societies.

        Humans stereotype individuals based on the group the individual belongs to. Usually a precursor to this will be generalizing about the group based one or more individuals (like Ginsberg, or the guy who de-friended me). That’s why the shonde for the goyim matter, especially when a shonde perfectly fits the vilest caricatures that exist.

        Some of the important elements behind the dynamics of scapegoating are:
        * The scapegoat should appear powerful, dangerous, sinister, or at least incredibly annoying;
        * The scapegoat should never actually be so powerful and dangerous that they could adequately defend themselves against the aggrieved party who selects them to play the role of scapegoat.

        That happens to be a great description of the role Jews have played in society for millennia.

        As I said, I’ve read the book in the link. I’m also a connoisseur of propaganda. I read the latest WN propaganda. Some of it is frighteningly good. What’s even more frightening is when there are prominent Jews who walk right into being exactly what WNs accuse them of being. That evokes powerful confirmation bias, which is a leading force of persuasion.

        The thing is, if you accept the WN frame for how the world is, the actions that the WNs call for are just a logical, even inescapable, conclusion.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • WHY are you posting this? What does it have to do with Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

        Because he wants to distract from goyim like William Brennan, David Souter, and John Paul “Let’s repeal the 2nd amendment” Stevens who were as bad as Ginsburg.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • As I said, I’ve read the book in the link. I’m also a connoisseur of propaganda. I read the latest WN propaganda. Some of it is frighteningly good.

        The WN propaganda of today would have embarrassed Hitler.

        Lion, this is the kind of poster who has driven the altright into the ground.

        I think some bannings are in order to attract less prolish customers.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Why does it matter if the person was Jewish, there are lots more gentile liberals who behave like that.

        He wants a Liberal WASP Justice who believes in aristocratic “noblesse oblige” like John Paul Stevens to eliminate the 2nd amendment, not a Jew.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Undiscovered Jew, it wasn’t really about Ginsburg, it was about the phrase “shonde for the goyim”. I don’t even consider Ginsburg a “shonde for the goyim”. So I admit to taking the thread off-topic, and I know that threads here have a tendency to degenerate into this. So I’m sorry. However, for me, it’s a fascinating topic when discussed sanely.

        The Gulf War of 1991 achieved a set of goals, but the underlying tensions behind the events which led to the war were never resolved. In 2003, the Iraq War was fought by the son of the president who ordered the Gulf War of 1991. The Iraq war of 2003 was fought to resolve those underlying tensions.

        I’ve read a great deal on the outbreak of World War I. I actually understand why it happened. I also took interest in the resolution. The end and immediate aftermath of WWI failed to resolve the underlying tensions that caused WWI. So a generation later, men who were soldiers during WWI had become world leaders. In their minds they were fighting the same war.

        There was a long history of pogroms before the Holocaust. The Holocaust was so shocking that people said “never again”. But were the underlying tensions that led to the Holocaust really resolved? I say they weren’t. There was a long pause because people were so horrified at how far things had gone.

        The youngest WWII veteran is in his 90s. So living memory of the Holocaust is mostly gone. Just as with the other multi-generational conflicts, the generation that agreed to stop fighting has been replaced by a new generation.

        You have to study a lot, and maybe read the Willy-Nicky Telegrams if you want to understand WWI. I know saying this won’t win me a popularity contest; but if you want to understand the Holocaust, you have to be able to see it from the NAZIs perspective.

        Let’s just back off of the Jewish stuff for a second.

        Remember how during and after the last election cycle, Democrats blamed the Republican victory on Russian Bots? I do my fair share of BSing on FaceBook, and I was accused of being a Russian Bot on more than one occasion.

        The Russians and their thousands of dollars chat-bot software and ad buys were clearly a scapegoated for Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016. Why would Democrats feel the need to create a scapegoat? The main reason for creating the scapegoat is that it was less scary than the real reason she lost.

        A few sneaky Russians overseas are less menacing than angry intractable Trump supporters who live walking distance from your house, and will never accept your belief system. The Trump supporters become even more unsettling if you realize that they don’t only support Trump because they’re uneducated.

        By way of analogy, if all your society’s problems are caused by Jews, everything will be fine once you, uhh, you know, `get rid of` the Jews. Of course if Jews aren’t the problem, you don’t need to get rid of them; but that means you need some other ways to solve all of society’s problems… and that second part isn’t very appealing.

        Jews will be scapegoated for a lot of things in the next 20 years. I’m sure of it. I am not the bad guy here. I’m just the messenger trying to open your eyes.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • The Holocaust was so shocking that people said “never again”. But were the underlying tensions that led to the Holocaust really resolved? I say they weren’t.

        What were the tensions and what were they?

        Jews will be scapegoated for a lot of things in the next 20 years. I’m sure of it.

        By who and where?

        You can’t get a legitimate antisemitic movement in America going (your hallucinations and hopes for antisemitism in America notwithstanding your hand-waving response) because of intermarriage – 20% of all white Americans are either at least 1/4 Jewish or have a relative with significant Jewish ancestry in their immediate family.

        Also, America’s antisemites are overwhelmingly the losers of the white population either in terms of low IQ or, like in your case, antisocial personality disorders.

        The black pillers will not gain power now that they’ve destroyed HBD/altrightism just I like I told you they would for over 10 years.

        Europe has no Jews left to persecute, and Israel has nuclear weapons.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • but if you want to understand the Holocaust, you have to be able to see it from the NAZIs perspective.

        And what specifically is it that you see (or hallucinate) in the Nazi perspective?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • I guess you read “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and believe it’s 100% true.

        Maybe someone needs to write a new book about how Jews are secretly SUPPORTING White Nationalism, and then the’ll leave the Jews alone and bother someone else.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • Maybe someone needs to write a new book about how Jews are secretly SUPPORTING White Nationalism, and then the’ll leave the Jews alone and bother someone else.

        That book may not be a forgery like Elders of Zion.

        (((Ron Unz))) runs the nuthouse at )))Unz.com((( .

        Meanwhile, Taki admitted Harvey Weinstein is a lifelong friend of his. Could Taki be receiving money from Weinstein or even be a Greek Jew?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

    • The US Constitution hasn’t been state of the art for two centuries. After WWII we wrote new constitutions for Japan and Germany that didn’t resemble our own at all. And we did it because ours is obsolete.

      I’m less than fond of her because she’s a terrible vote against civil liberties and American sovereignty. But not because she has a realistic view of our constitution.

      owentt

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Thus argument is bogus. The Constitution is fine—if as a society we think it needs reform (“is obsolete”) there is the amendment process. The Democrats are talking up their complaints about the way Senators are apportioned, so maybe we will see such an amendment process soon.

        Gozo

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Natural Law never goes out of style.

        A Dilettante

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • the first amendment is state of the art today more than ever. the only reason japan has more freedom of speech than any country other than the US is the US put the first amendment into the japanese constitution. meanwhile in shithole countries like the uk, https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921.

        sex toys for dogs

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • The concept of a deeply important constitution is culturally unique to the anglo world. Most other countries basically don’t care about that idea. The Japanese and German constitutions don’t really matter.

        bobbybobbob

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • owentt – name one anti-civil liberties decision of Justice Ginsburg. Link requested.

        njguy73

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • @Gozo–that is one part of the Constitution that can’t be amended. The Constitution states that “suffrage” in the Senate for any state cannot be altered without the consent of that state. I really don’t see North Dakota agreeing to give up one senator any time in the near future.

        sestamibi

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Sestamibi,

        Maybe the Democrats want California and New York to have 10 or 20 senators? Or maybe they are just talking out of their asses?

        Gozo

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • How exactly, is the US Constitution “obsolete?”

        Mike Street Station

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

  8. My grandmother fell at 97. She went down a lot but was still ok until 101 when she fell again. Then she died in the following 6 months

    Bruno

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Sounds like she was falling because she was dying, not dying because she was falling.

      Lowe

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

  9. I’m done with the “no ill-will” towards Leftists.

    They have LONG MADE IT CLEAR they harbor ill-will, to put it mildly, to anyone who dares disagree with them.

    fakeemail

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • I agree with this. Ginsburg had plenty of ill will toward a person who didn’t want to bake a cake celebrating the insertion of one man’s penis into another man’s rectum.

      Hermes

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Ginsburg personally didn’t do that. She used to vacation with Scalia. They were friends.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Agree.

      Clay

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

  10. Falling is bad. Some elderly people recover, but you’re right in that it is generally down hill from there.

    Luckily for her she only broke ribs. That bodes well. Breaking a hip and the resultant extended hospital time is especially dangerous for the elderly due to infection risk (C. dif, etc). I’d expect to see her in a walker after this, and then in a wheelchair after her sarcopenia excises her last bit of pride.

    I similarly don’t wish her any ill will, but I’d be lying if I said I can’t wait until I don’t have to look at her (again) prideful lace doily that is only her version of one band member trying to out-peacock the others for purposes of individual attention and stardom. The relative subtlety of it is arrogant in itself. To me, it implies that she thinks that she is such a master of decorum that she can successfully push its conventions. Its un-American in such a public service position, in my opinion. Though I suppose that freak flag also serves as a suitable warning, similar to a skunk’s stripe, as they always do.

    Sam

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • A walker with a rib injury makes no sense. That would mean taking stress off your hips knees and ankles, by transferring force from your hands through your midsection. When you have a rib injury, you want to avoid all stresses going through the midsection.

      A better choice of equipment would be lift chair.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • It’s not that the walker would be for the rib fracture per se. It’s that when someone starts falling, we try to make them use a walker to prevent them from falling more.

        Hermes

        November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Well, we’ll see if she uses a walker. I don’t see it working out. Even if she weren’t putting her weight on it, she’d have to be moving it around. If I were her, I’d rather hire a health aide.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

  11. 10 years ago, her questions were very sharp and I kinda like her. She is never mean with the lawyers. She is really the nicest person on the inter personal level in Scotus

    Bruno

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

  12. It’s time for Clarence Thomas to retire. I know he’s only 70, but black males, on average, are disproportionately susceptible to heart disease and some forms of cancer and have shorter life-spans on average. And we may have a Democrat president in 2020. It wouldn’t be shocking at all for Thomas to keel over and die at the age of 76 midway through the Kamala Harris administration. RBG should have retired during the Obama administration — and I suspect she regrets not retiring, but she probably figured HRC was a shoe-in. Let’s not make the same mistake.

    Kosher Kowboy

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Very true. It’s hard to give up being that important and personally powerful. Thomas might be the one guy who can suppress his ego enough to do the right thing. My guess is that, like the others, he won’t.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • After the mortality crossover age blacks have higher life expectancies than whites.

      JW

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • There is something called mortality crossover with white and black men. Black men are less likely to make it to 75, but the ones that do live longer than whites who make it to 75.

      Thomas, however, has the heavy build of a guy who dies in his early-mid 70s. Think of all the old black guys out there you have met or seen in your life. How many were as broad-shouldered and fat as Thomas? None I can think of. They are usually athletic, thin, or skinny-fat (thin build with a big belly sticking out).

      Lot

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Good point. Thomas should retire while we still have the Senate, provided Trump promises a terrific replacement. Plus Red Dead Online is launching later this month; he and RBG could play together.

      Hermes

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • It’s time for Clarence Thomas to retire.

      He is supposed to be inclined to retire. He may go ahead next year now that the Senate GOP have a padded majority.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • Agree, but his replacement would have to be black as well, equally conservative, and young enough to be around for a while. Can only think of Janice Rogers Brown (who is already too old for the job), and Michigan Supreme Court Justice Kurtis Wilder, who is getting there real fast.

      sestamibi

      November 8, 2018 at EST pm

      • Wilder is only 59 (ten years younger than Rogers Brown), which means he would have many good years left.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        November 9, 2018 at EST am

    • I’ve no doubt that after the Kavanaugh spectacle, Thomas will retire at the end of this session, next spring sometime, so that we can enjoy the same kind of drama we went through this year. But time wise it’s the perfect time to replace a SC judge.

      Mike Street Station

      November 9, 2018 at EST am

  13. Falling itself is a marker of mental decline. It also correlates with accidental peeing.

    My 2¢

    November 8, 2018 at EST pm

    • You shouldn’t worry . There will be at least one vacancy with Ginsburg health , Breyer 80 yo and Sotomayor diabetes. Thomas is the most conservative judge and It would be sad to have him retire in 2020. He could stay 15 more years on the court … maybe he could have is dna evaluated for life expectancy .

      Bruno

      November 9, 2018 at EST am

      • It’s weird everybody’s talking about Thomas retiring when he’s only two years older than Alito.

        Richard

        November 9, 2018 at EST pm

      • Because if Thomas doesn’t retire during Trump’s term for a younger replacement, than Thomas’s replacement will be made by a liberal Democrat, maybe President Ocasio-Cortez. After Trump leaves office that will be the high water mark for Conservative justices so we want them as young as possible.

        Mike Street Station

        November 10, 2018 at EST am

      • I get that, but if people were thinking coherently that would apply just as well to Alito. Because they were nominated 15 years apart I don’t think most people realize they’re basically the same age.

        Richard

        November 10, 2018 at EST am


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