Lion of the Blogosphere

Stupid Christian violates the Prime Directive

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-usa-murder/american-killed-on-remote-indian-island-off-limits-to-visitors-idUSKCN1NQ0QT

A Christian preacher goes to a forbidden Indian island to convert the indigenous natives to Christianity, and they kill him with a bow and arrow.

The island is off limits because of the Prime Directive.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 21, 2018 at EST pm

Posted in Star Trek

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  1. Christians have an itch to do things like this. I had some missionary kid friends growing up. Sometimes they would talk about it. I also met one of their fathers, who later died while doing his thing.

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • > Christians have an itch to do things like this

      It’s not an itch. It’s deeply and thoroughly baked into the religion in an obvious way. The end goal is global baptism and salvation.

      What is Saint Patrick’s Day? It celebrates an English guy who crossed the Irish sea at great risk to bring the Good News to the Irish. The Irish warlords of the era were not too keen on Christianity, but the message proved popular.

      bobbybobbob

      November 25, 2018 at EST pm

  2. What with all the interbreeding I shudder to think what the average IQ score must be.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Orthodox Jews are inbred but maintains high IQ. That being said I doubt the adamanese are repressed geniuses.

      toomanymice

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • They probably have super-low IQs like Australian Aborigines and African Bushmen.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Supposedly pre-agricultural are all below IQ 70, per Richard Lynn.

        GondwanaMan

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Orthodox Jews are not inbred. They have a small gene pool, but there are still millions of them.

        Maciano

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • A certain level of inbreeding raises IQ. Inbreeding propaganda was started in order to urge European tribes to outbreed so that Empire would spread. Before, their intense tribalism combined with their war prowess made this impossible. Inbreeding is what incubated the White races, and it encapsulates their history.

        Non-white populations are the result of long-ago outbreeding with archaic hominids. It doesn’t mater how much they inbreed after that outbreeding event. The non-human genetics will always drag down the IQ and raise the population’s aggression. Inbreeding may even work to concentrate the non-human genetics in rudimentary societies due to more emphasis on brute strength and less avenues for intelligence to be exercised to its potential in the genetic marketplace.

        https://io9.gizmodo.com/5863666/why-inbreeding-really-isnt-as-bad-as-you-think-it-is

        You don’t want to marry too close too often, but ideally you also don’t want to stray too far. As of now, non-Jewish White people from relatively unmixed stock could use a long bout of “inbreeding” to again fortify their genetics. Today, things are looking pretty loose even in strongholds. In contrast, groupings of unrelated Orthodox Jews tend to look more like siblings than do non-Jewish White siblings. See any group image of them.

        Sam

        November 25, 2018 at EST am

      • > inbreeding raises IQ.

        Inbreeding for any particular trait produces a mix of degenerate rejects and exemplars of the desired trait. With livestock, race dogs/horses, and plants you just slaughter the defectives. With people you wind up with a bunch of sick kids. Jews and Amish and cousin fucking pakis have way more genetically sick kids.

        That said, “hybrid vigor” is essentially a myth the left uses to promote cross racial breeding. You see very serious levels of psychiatric problems in mixed race kids.

        There is a happy medium which science could probably determine. 99% of sexual selection is to do with the immune system. It is why sex exists in the first place. If fitness via IQ or running fast were the main thing there would be no sex. The chromosome crossover process adapts the immune system to deal with emergent infectious threats and toxins.

        bobbybobbob

        November 25, 2018 at EST pm

    • Interbreeding with who?

      Tanturn

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • The fish, smart ass.

        Lowe

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  3. Even if he wasn’t killed, would the natives had the IQ to understand the teachings? Or would it have been corrupted into some unknowable form?

    Red pill aspie

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • And also, what possible sense could the Bible and Christian theology have to them to them? What’s a Jew? What’s a Roman? What’s a temple? What’s a mountain? What’s a stone tablet? Any conversion would be insincere and meaningless.

      I have zero sympathy with the missionary in this case. He would probably have killed them with diseases if he had met them.

      Prolier Than Thou

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Ha ha. There are cases where missionaries have to translate things into the primitives’ language and you wonder whether the translation is adequate to convey the same sense we have, like translating “Lord” into their word for “chief.” But trying to explain to people what a mountain or stone tablet are when they have never seen nor heard of such a thing takes the cake.

        According to the news, some people are worrying he’s already killed them with disease just by getting close enough for them to kill him.

        Hermes

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

  4. the indigenous natives

    The barbaric savages on the isolated island may have been murdering killers, but at least they weren’t man-eating cannibals.

    snorlax

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  5. If the Prime Directive was violated then why have locals been arrested for facilitating his entry? That’s a complication, eh?

    Department 11

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Well, going with the Prime Directive analogy, the locals who were arrested were part of the Federation. They had long since been in contact with the outside world and their development affected accordingly.

      But the Prime Directive analogy is somewhat flawed here, because in Star Trek the purpose of the Prime Directive isn’t to protect Federation people from being murdered by savages, it’s to protect primitive people’s liberal right to autonomous development.

      Hermes

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • The law banning people from contacting the Sentinelese isn’t meant to protect would-be explorers from being murdered. It’s to protect the Sentinelese from disease.

        Lowe

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  6. Indigenous andamanese are fascinating and basically ‘living fossils.’ Despite inhabiting the bay of bengal they are genetically similar to african pygmies. How did they get there and when? Too bad well armored anthropologists can’t politely take blood samples and record their language.

    Was this missionary asian? I’ve always found asian wacko christians puzzling. Does buddhism have nothing to offer them?

    The islands are so tightly protected it’s a ‘miracle’ he managed to reach them at all.

    toomanymice

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Based on his picture and full name, I’d guess that he’s half-Chinese and thoroughly Americanized.

      Buddhism originates in India and was also alien to China, a fact that contributed to its repression by various dynasties. Now it has the status of a defeated religion, like Odinism in Europe. Christianity’s status is complicated, but it’s still the dominant religion of the dominant cultural power, and that carries some cachet.

      So I don’t see why a Chinese ought to prefer Buddhism to Christianity.

      But again, this guy seems Americanized.

      Wency

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Buddhism is part of the Three Teachings (Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism) that comprise what passes for religion in China. It is foreign in origin, yes, but no more foreign than Christianity was in Europe and it was introduced at roughly the same time. Chan Buddhism, and its most notable contribution from a Western Perspective- the Shaolin Monk School of Kung Fu, was developed entirely in China. Christianity is an entirely alien religion for Chinese. Buddhism has nearly 2,000 years of history there and has had the time to develop branches that modify teachings to cater specifically to Chinese tastes and values.

        PerezHBD

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Genetically they are completely different from Africans. They have dark skin and kinky hair, but the dark skin is from different genes than in africans.

      Alex

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • They’re genetically closer to you than African pygmies. Convergent evolution.

      Tanturn

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Really? I thought dna analysis of the hair samples acquired early 1900s showed similarities to pygmies.

        toomanymice

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Scientists used morphology – teeth, skull, etc – to try to determine genetics before the DNA era. And based on that they concluded that the various negrito populations were related to pygmies. Later DNA studies have concluded that they are more related to asians than africans, despite looking like africans. Same case with Melanesians. If you look at Fiji islanders they would certainly be considered black in the US, but genetically they are closest to east asians.

        Alex

        November 22, 2018 at EST pm

    • I am fascinated by these people too and often wonder what their language might be like.

      We should send some tiny drones with recording devices to fly over them and record their speech so that we can learn about their language without actually disturbing them. I’d love to participate in a project like that.

      Kyo

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Imagine if they spotted the drone. They would throw a spear at it. If the drone got away it would really mess with them. Maybe a drone could plant tiny cameras and recorders somewhere. It would be fascinating .

        Rosenmop

        November 23, 2018 at EST pm

    • How can any of you possibly know anything about their genetics? They’ve never been contacted enough to be studied.

      Hermes

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • The assumption is that they are similar to neighboring Andamanese peoples.

        Tanturn

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

  7. Christianity is functionally wild-eyed secular liberalism. I’m not a religious scholar, so I don’t know if “old school” Xty is more right-wing (or what have you).

    Out-group altruism is suicidally nuts and is mostly done in stupidity or bad-faith.

    fakeemail

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Christianity is, in practice, the best safeguard we have against wild-eyed secular liberalism. Particularly for women, who are, by nature, more religious than men.

      A girl has either gotten her moral instruction almost entirely from Hollywood and mass media, or she has received them, to some degree, from the church.

      Where I live, if I meet a millennial girl who is Christian and involved in her church, she is likely to have doubts about the LGBT agenda. She probably thinks that her children should NOT have the option to choose their gender. She probably aspires to wait until marriage for sex, and even if she has failed, this aspiration has at least kept her partner count well below what it could otherwise be. She might have voted for Trump, but even if not, she has at least voted for Republicans at times.

      If I meet a girl who is explicitly not Christian, she is probably 110% on board with the LGBT agenda. Her partner count is probably stratospheric. She probably regards Republicans as the worst sort of racist war criminals. And so on.

      Wency

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Wency, yes. Christianity is inoculation against worse ideologies. Nobody has come up with a better ideology than Christianity which also spreads and takes hold as well as Christianity.

        Sure Christianity isn’t my ideology, but my ideology requires both a rational disposition and an IQ of over 100 to believe. If I tried to push my ideology on everyone else in society, it wouldn’t stick, and they’d soon find something else. Given the choices, I’d rather that something else is Christianity.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Whatever they have in Japan works pretty well for them.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • They don’t breed.

        Monsieur le Baron

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • 100% correct.

        Anonymous Handle

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • I agree. What Japan has works in Japan. It wouldn’t work in the U.S., or for that matter, most other places that aren’t Japan.

        China isn’t much more religious than Japan. China has something that kind of works there. However, it doesn’t work as well as what Japan has. This is because in China, trust and reciprocity only extend as far as the family.

        The U.S. has had a system of government that has worked here (and may become unsalvageable soon), but that would never have worked in Africa at any time, or in any place where it had to be run by natives.

        You can’t spread Japan’s dominant ideology to Europe, or the U.S., or North Africa, or Turkey. I think it would be possible for Christianity to take root in these places.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • They have crypto-authoritarianism in Japan, under a democratic mask. That’s how Asian countries keep things together, not religion.

        Jason Liu

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • “Whatever they have in Japan works pretty well for them.”

        The Japanese tend to be a very cruel race. They also have a lot of suicide. It is probably all genetic.
        However they are not committing cultural and genetic suicide by allowing immigrants…so there is that.

        Rosenmop

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • The Japanese combine secular-nationalism with a worship of ancestral traditions, and a casual interest in astrology and other New Age beliefs. In other words, there’s no such thing as a purely rational/atheistic society, but Japan is probably the closest to such a thing.

        GondwanaMan

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Japan doesn’t need to breed (very much), because they aren’t interested in letting in a bunch of other people to hang around and outbreed them. If Japan’s fertility is below replacement, that just means they’re a bit overpopulated at present and their population needs to stabilize at a lower level.

        Blue Tribe Dissident

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • People talk about Japan’s fertility problem because Japan’s economy is structured around neo-Keynesian (Paul Krugman style economics) insanity which is basically a giant ponzi scheme reliant on ever expanding population growth.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        November 23, 2018 at EST pm

    • Well, that’s certainly true of the missionaries. The worst missionaries are the ones who take their children along with them to the very worst countries they can find. Great way to make your child a psychological cripple for life.

      These are the same types of people who have three lily white children of their own, but get really excited about adopting a child from the Congo.

      Also they have a nasty habit of repeatedly “forgiving” people who take advantage of them; then giving you a long drawn out story about how they’re being “Christ-like”, rather than being a sucker.

      This mentality has always been a major theme in Christianity. Fortunately, it’s not the only theme in Christianity, and also fortunately, Christianity is far from the worst religion for your neighbors to have.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • My great grandparents were Methodist missionaries in China and had their kids there. And yeah some were really messed up, like my parent and her mother. I think the family came back to the US and dropped religion entirely.

        Mrs Stitch

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • It’s fascinating when these missionaries come back without converting one single heathen, but then their kids think Christianity is a little absurd.

        What *DOES* work, by the way, for spreading Christianity is a method known as “church planting”. It’s highly effective, as in ‘boring but effective’, that’s why resources go to stupid stuff like “short term missions”, which are just chaperoned vacations for high school students. Church planting has no entertainment value or perverse thrills for middle class white people.

        By the way, I totally want to hear any passed down family missionary stories.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 22, 2018 at EST pm

      • Moresigmas, I have a story from my high school algebra teacher who had been a missionary in africa. They had a problem with army ants that would swarm en masse toward their cottage. When an attack approached they would stand on the porch with brooms sweeping away the tide of ants.

        One of her fellow missionaries was a closet alcoholic who would fittingly hide in the outhouse to drink often blacking out there.

        Well one night a swarm of army ants approached. Guess whose skeleton they found in the outhouse the next morning?

        toomanymice

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

    • I know a (very Americanized) Chinese guy who is really into Christianity. He always tries to get me to watch videos from the megachurch he attends. He is a lifelong incel who has no interest in learning about the social forces behind his lack of female companionship. He says it’s all God’s plan and he’ll meet the right woman when God is ready (he’s 50 years old). He is a millionaire and I can tell you right now every penny he has will go to his church when he passes away. He will have no family to pass it on to.

      I am friends with a Japanese American who in the past couple of years has really gotten into the contemporary Christian music scene. He knows all the bands and songs. Not sure why he likes it so much , it sounds boring to me. He goes to concerts on busses full of fans. When they try to talk Christianity to him he gets offended “Hey man I’m Buddahist”…Don’t push your Christianity on me”.

      Jay Fink

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Catholicism in particular is very liberal. Other than their opposition to abortion everything they preach sounds like a spiritualized version of the DNC platform.

      My impression is Christianity in general has become more liberal over the years. I never hear of fire and brimstone type preachers anymore. I don’t think there is a market for it. I have had friends drag me to their church’s. I never heard any warnings against sin or judgement of sinners. It was all about grace and forgiveness and Jesus loves you no matter what terrible things you have done in your life. It reminded of liberals moral relativism where there is no right or wrong. Christians admit there is a wrong but all you have to do is believe in Christ and all is good.

      That’s what I don’t like about Christianity..a murderer who finds Christ goes to Heaven while a person who has been decent and kind all their life goes to Hell if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as their savior.

      Jay Fink

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Orthodox Christianity is the only branch that is worth a damn. Perhaps when Salvini declares himself Dictator he will depose the current Pope and reform the religion to be more aligned with the values of the State and the People:

        PerezHBD

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • There are still the fire and brimestone types among the evangelicals, however ministry tends to conform to what the market will bear, and I suspect for most suburban evangelical churches, hellfire is out and Joel Osteen type feel good Christianity is in.

        Mike Street Station

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • “That’s what I don’t like about Christianity..a murderer who finds Christ goes to Heaven while a person who has been decent and kind all their life goes to Hell if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as their savior.”

        Christians don’t believe one should be exempt from the consequences of their crimes / sins on earth. If a murderer finds God and repents they can go to heaven. But that doesn’t keep them from going to prison or being executed. For a worldly person, the worldly punishment is the only thing they care about. So heaven would be irrelevant. But someone who is “saved” would be very remorseful over having previously committed such a sin. They wouldn’t deliberately murder someone thinking that they’d still go to heaven.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • @ destructure

        His point stands. According to most branches of Christianity, murderers can get into heaven if they accept Jesus, but righteous men don’t get into heaven if they don’t accept Jesus. That’s pretty messed up.

        Believing in heaven and hell at all is pretty messed up though. Think about how sick it is to tell children such things exist, especially when you’re just some gomer who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow, much less what happens when you die.

        Lowe

        November 22, 2018 at EST pm

      • Better to believe in Islamic Paradise, and get Houris!!!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • Orthodox Christianity is the only branch that is worth a damn.

        The Russian Church is a sham. The real church was destroyed in 1918. What you see today is the descendant of a KGB controlled pseudo church, and it is incredibly corrupt. The Greek Orthodox Church has some lingering sparks of true faith, as does the Catholic Church in Poland, Croatia and even Spain, but even those churches have corrupt hierarchies, child molestation scandals and secular rot. There is a reason why people who feel true religious calling to God turn to Islam.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • Lowe wrote:

        “Think about how sick it is to tell children such things exist, especially when you’re just some gomer who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow, much less what happens when you die.”

        What are you are supposed to tell a dying child, that there is no hope?

        It is totally autistic (that is, it shows an utter incapability of perceiving emotion in others) to think it could possibly be a good idea to deprive people of all hope.

        I think this is the biggest reason why so few politicians are atheist: Politicians by definition are socially more adept than most, and they get that religion is pretty essential as a source of hope for people. You have to be some distance along the autistic spectrum not to recognize the social value of religion and hope.

        Aspergery techies by contrast, can only repeat over and over that religious people are crazy and deluded, completely missing that religious belief is a remarkably healthy adaptation (especially in the face of hardship and death). This is not speculation: the fraction of people needing antidepressants to cope is far higher for the nonreligious.

        Dan

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • ” According to most branches of Christianity, murderers can get into heaven if they accept Jesus, but righteous men don’t get into heaven if they don’t accept Jesus. That’s pretty messed up.”

        It’s not messed up at all. From a purely rational standpoint, it’s better for a murderer to find god, repent and stop murdering than to continue as a murderer because they believe they’re already damned.

        Regardless, Christians believe that everyone has sinned. And, therefore, no one is worthy of salvation without repentance and forgiveness which can only come from god. Even your hypothetical “righteous man” is a sinner. Has he never lusted, lied, hated or been jealous? Of course he has. Everyone has. To lust in one’s heart is to be just as guilty as if one has fornicated or committed adultery. And to hate another is to be just as guilty as if one has murdered. If the murderer who humbles himself and begs forgiveness can’t have his sins forgiven then why should the “righteous man” who’s too arrogant to repent and accept god’s forgiveness? But the sins of the so-called “righteous man” are actually much worse. Because rejecting god and salvation is a much greater sin than murder.

        I’m not arguing my own personal beliefs. I’m just explaining the basis of christian theology. Not that I’m an expert on christian theology. But I do recognize the logic.

        destructure

        November 24, 2018 at EST am

      • “His point stands. According to most branches of Christianity, murderers can get into heaven if they accept Jesus, but righteous men don’t get into heaven if they don’t accept Jesus. That’s pretty messed up”.

        Its not messed up if you understand the purpose of this and all religions. Its perfectly consistent.

        “Believing in heaven and hell at all is pretty messed up though”.

        Think about it this way: on Earth, do you believe that it is theoretically possible for you to reach the known pinnacle of your personal potential as a human: in every sense of the concept? That’s a valid esoteric explanation of the heaven concept in mainstream Christianity. There is a political aspect that I am not mentioning.

        Similarly, and ignoring that the term “Hell” merely comes from the want to demonize Old European religion whose “Heaven” was called “Hel” or “Hall or “Valhalla”, do you believe that it is possible for you to fall into the depths of human debasement and dysfunction should you ignore all traditional morality? That’s a valid esoteric illustration of the Hell concept as understood by mainstream Christianity..

        “Think about how sick it is to tell children such things exist, especially when you’re just some gomer who doesn’t know his ass from his elbow, much less what happens when you die”

        I don’t know if I’d agree with “sick”, because there is a real aspect to the allegory that no one can escape. Religion does serve a purpose and you can not escape the real world consequences of what religion addresses by becoming an atheist.

        However, I do agree that the mind of a child is often too unformed to be able to well-handle these concepts as they are often taught by Christian denominations. It would help if the purpose of Christianity wasn’t a secret. As it stands, it comes off as a collection of largely impenetrable myth and allegory. It does serve a real purpose, but that purpose is mostly fulfilled because people don’t know what Christianity is rather than because they otherwise would. All religions serve toward this purpose as their primary function, but Christianity is the most complex and elegant of the lot.

        Sam

        November 25, 2018 at EST am

      • @ Dan

        Don’t throw some lifeboat scenario at me about a dying child. Newsflash, most children aren’t dying. You should shape your personal philosophy of how to treat children based on things that happen often, not rarely.

        If you wanted to comfort a dying child, tell them sweet little hopeful lies. I would commend it.

        But Christianity is not sweet little lies. It’s sick, twisted lies left over from the ancient world. Telling children about heaven and hell is the opposite of giving them hope. It is telling them there is this strange, judgmental, capricious being weighing up their actions, and prepared to torture them for eternity if they don’t measure up. That is sick.

        Lowe

        November 25, 2018 at EST pm

      • @ destructure

        That is messed up, and none of it is reasonable. It is logical, I admit, but the axioms at play are arbitrary and repulsive. There are deep flaws in any moral system which can, because of some words he said, conclude a murderer is better than an upright person who has done good deeds. Anyone who could stand by such a moral system either doesn’t understand it, or has genuine psychological problems.

        @ Sam

        Your esoteric jibber jabber seems to have almost no connection with what everyday Christians believe. Christians believe heaven and hell are real places, not allegory, and they tell their children these are real places, which is abuse.

        Lowe

        November 25, 2018 at EST pm

  8. OT, but you probably should see this feed:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/1064924541238034433

    Vipltd

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • I don’t understand the point of that tweet.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Why would anyone criticize anyone else for having two laptops? You think she made it up so you she could brag about herself?

      Frau Katze

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • It was almost certainly an innocuous remark from a stranger about the oddity of carrying two laptops. I have carried two laptops in the airport before, and I remember somebody saying something about it in passing in the security line

        I am a man, so obviously strangers do not save their passing remarks for women, as if women have no business with computers. “Women, computers! Preposterous!” cries the made-up airport misogynist.

        She said he repeated his question to her, because he felt he was owed an answer. How dare he!? The audacity!

        What really happened was she ignored him the first time, so he repeated his question, thinking he was unheard. Of course, she has to interpret it in a way that makes for a good yarn on Twitter, a yarn in which she can conveniently humblebrag about her being a physicist, etc. How subtle.

        Lowe

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • I’m pretty confident that if Mr. Tall Rich & Handsome had asked why she had 2 laptops, she wouldn’t have been annoyed at all.

        Because what’s really going on here (I think) is that when a man sees a girl he is interested in sexually, he will normally try to start a conversation with her by making a comment or asking a question. It’s normal and reasonable to ask about something that seems anomalous — like the fact that the girl has 2 laptops.

        At the same time, women tend to get annoyed and insulted when they are hit on by men they deem to be beneath them in terms of attractiveness. But very often, women don’t like to admit to themselves or others that the real reason they are annoyed is that the man is unattractive. So instead, they invent rationalizations, e.g. “How dare he talk to me in an elevator!” or “It’s rude to approach a girl when she is alone waiting for a bus!” or whatever.

        So I would guess that in this case, the woman in question invented a story in her head about how this man is some kind of male chauvinist pig for thinking it’s strange that a woman would have 2 laptops.

        Anyway, this girl seems like a terrible person. It’s not clear what her Astronomy and Artificial Intelligence work is besides posting pictures of herself on Instagram. She seems like your basic THOT who invades traditionally male spaces in order to get attention while men who are skilled and talented get ignored. Kind of like Rebecca Watson.

        fortaleza84

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • “Why would anyone criticize anyone else for having two laptops?”

        Because someone standing in line in a crowded airport waiting to go through security are annoyed that someone takes extra long to check all their devices. It’s like standing behind someone at a crowded supemarket and the old lady up front spends 5 minutes digging through her purse for exact change.

        ” You think she made it up so you she could brag about herself?”

        I don’t think she made it up. But I do think she either read too much into it or trying to humblebrag. Most of the people spouting off about “microaggressions” and other nonsense bring it on themselves with bad attitudes.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST pm

  9. This BBC article suggests the stuff about him being a “missionary” was misreported. He might have been religious. But he was a “wilderness medic” and “adventurer” from Vancouver not a missionary.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46293221

    A lot of people have this romanticized image of peaceful people living in a state of nature blah blah blah. The reality is that most primitive tribes are assholes. Sure, leave them alone on their little island. But they can go to hell.

    destructure

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • “Mr. Pathak said Mr. Chau, believed to be 26 or 27 and from Washington State, may have been trying to convert the islanders to Christianity. Right before he left in his kayak, Mr. Chau gave the fishermen a long note. In it, police officials said, he had written that Jesus had bestowed him with the strength to go to the most forbidden places on Earth.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Read the whole article.

        “People thought he is a missionary because he had mentioned his position on God and that he was a believer on social media or somewhere online. But in a strict sense, he was not a missionary.

        “He was an adventurer. His intention was to meet the aborigines.”

        destructure

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • And so he went to hell.

        My 2¢

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • He was probably a bit crazy. Maybe narcissistic if he thought Jesus gave him special powers.

        Rosenmop

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Hard to know. I have some photos of the Andaman and Nicobar Island on Pinterest. Remote weird places interest me. The islands are a possession of India. In the colonial days the Brits had a notorious prison on one of the islands. It was more for mainlanders than for locals.

        To find photos, check Flickr, 500px and Instagram. The Flickr entries had bits of historical info, plus I checked Wiki. Part of the prison remains, restored.

        A creepy place.

        Frau Katze

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Including a photo of the old gallows building on the appropriately named Viper Island.

        There are also elephants on the islands. Perhaps they were brought there,

        Frau Katze

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • I guarantee you this guy read bruchko, the autobiographical account of a clueless missionary who wanders into the amazon. He too was shot by arrows but survived. He likens his wounds to christ’s wounds.

        toomanymice

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • My 2¢ “And so he went to hell”

        Don’t be a douche.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • Over on the liberal SDMB, they are convinced he was being “sponsored” by this organzation ICC, International Christian Concern, simply because some fakestream media articles mention that he was “aligned” with them, and that legal action can and should be brought against ICC for putting him up to violating the Indian law against approaching the island.

      Hermes

      November 23, 2018 at EST pm

  10. OT. If persecution made the Jews smarter then why didn’t it make Gypsy’s smarter?

    Clay

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Gypsies are even smarter. They found a way to flourish (judging by their numbers) without working.

      My 2¢

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • Stealing is work.

        Lowe

        November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Study _and_ _debating_ the Talmud made Jews smart. Prominent Talmudic scholars were seen as desireable son in-laws and so had their choice of brides. This enabled them to pass on their genes and amplified their reproductive fitness.
      By contrast the dominant form of Christianity in western and central Europe in the Middle Ages was Roman Catholicism. It was strictly forbidden to translate Christian scripture into languages other than Latin, you could be and often would be executed for attempting to do so.
      Only a very small cadre were required to be able to read and even they would be closely scrutinized for signs of heresy
      Their were many highly intelligent Catholic priests but they were expected to be celibate and usually they were although a few did have progeny. In practice Roman Catholic Christianity selected the most gifted and intelligent males and _handicapped_ them vis a vis their dumber counterparts with regard to spreading their genes.

      Dr Hook

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • While that may be true, I suspect the affect is grossly exaggerated. I suspect the real reason is that the smartest jews made more money. Which allowed them to have and raise more children. Same as it did for gentiles. The difference was probably that dumb gentiles worked as serfs whereas dumb jews didn’t. So it made it harder for dumb jews to have families.

        Of course, modern society has turned that on its head. Now it’s the dumbest people who tend to have more children. Exception being very rich people. I went to the trouble of looking up the the richest people on Forbe’s list some time ago. Not all of them. Just the top 200 or so. And they still had a fertility rate about twice the national average.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • That’s historical nonsense. Catholic Europe flourished for centuries and literacy and technology increased steadily during the middle-ages. Plenty of secular literature was written in local languages by Catholics – Chaucer, Dante, Petrarch. The aristocracy and merchant families kept breeding plenty of high IQ sons who did not enter the priesthood. Not to mention the obvious fact that daughters also transmit good genes.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

  11. O/T . Do you think this is an example of prole murder despite being in an upper class suburb of NJ? FYI, the men, though rich were born in Brooklyn and married women from Staten Island. That indicates proleness.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6414569/Brother-New-Jersey-millionaire-murdered-home-family-charged-arson.html

    Red pill aspie

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  12. I wasn’t aware the Prime Directive was in the Torah.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  13. how does lion know he was really there to evangelize? maybe he was a chimo and he was there to chimo.

    and the article is fake news. there are still lots of uncontacted peoples/tribes. sentinel is just the most famous.

    suicide by libertarian overdose

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • these peoples exist in the amazon, which is not all in brazil, and they exist in irian jaya.

      even in cascadia there is an as yet uncontacted tribe called “sasquatch”. people wonder what happened to d b cooper. he landed safely but was eaten by a ‘squatch.

      suicide by libertarian overdose

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • That’s a lie! I’m D.B. Cooper. The “D” stands for destructure.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

  14. My great uncle was a missionary in China from about 1900 – 1920. During WW2 he was a minister in the Free Church of Scotland, in London. I don’t know much else about him.
    He was born in 1869 in Caithness, Scotland and died in 1947 in London, England.
    I suspect he became a missionary because he couldn’t get a job as a minister when he graduated from seminary. He was the oldest son and the only one to pursue higher education. I suppose the family was too poor to send the rest of the kids to university. Four of his younger brothers (including my grandfather) came to Canada before WW1.

    Rosenmop

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  15. IHTG

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • I read that. It was basically the view of immigration that the left held when it was still interested in class instead of identity groups. During the election I wrote about a Bernie Sanders interview with Vox in which he reiterated the old school lefty version of borders (open borders being a Koch Brothers scheme). However by the time of the Las Vegas debate with Hillary, his open borders position was the same as Hillary’s.

      They got to him.

      Mike Street Station

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

  16. Completely fascinating! I suppose I may have failed at National Geographic, but I had no idea there were uncontacted peoples anywhere besides South America, really, let alone islands you aren’t allowed to go to! Amazing.

    S.J., Esquire

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Yeah, I had never heard of North Sentinel Island until a year or two ago, when I learned of it totally by chance, and was similarly shocked.

      Hermes

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

  17. The fact that the Christians want to treat the Sentinelese as people rather than wildlife raises my opinion of Christianity.

    F

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Yeah, I appreciate that comment, you don’t see enough of this. We do tend to treat these peoples like zoo specimens, but I wonder what everyone thinks about the argument that they might actually have agency and deserve antibiotics, etc.

      S.J., Esquire

      November 24, 2018 at EST am

      • The boomer-style liberals on the SDMB recently resurrected a thread one of them had started a few years ago, when there was no particular reason for the Sentinelese to be in the news. At the time, some of them were taking seriously the possibility that intervention because of “human rights” violations or “abuse” (e.g., female circumcision, slavery, human sacrifice) might be warranted. Now that the topic has resurfaced because of recent events, they’re overflowing with profanity in describing John Chau and treating it as beyond the pale to even think for a moment that we should do anything other than leave the poor noble savages alone.

        If the Sentinelese had white skin, names like John and Mary, and wore jackets and ties and dresses, these same people would be clamoring for UN troops to invade and “liberate” them so that their women could get on contraception, go to grad school, and get marketing jobs in big cities.

        Hermes

        November 24, 2018 at EST pm

  18. More Beta-male rage?…Trump-supporter rage?…

    Tampa Tribune, 11/21/18 – The Latest: Man charged in killing at Catholic Supply store

    http://www.tampabay.com/ap/national/the-latest-man-charged-in-killing-at-catholic-supply-store-ap_national94fb027d779f4564874920b9b1bab897

    Prosecutors have charged a 53-year-old man with first-degree murder, armed criminal action, sodomy and other counts in a sexual assault and fatal shooting at a suburban St. Louis religious supplies store.

    St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCulloch on Wednesday announced charges against Thomas Bruce of Imperial, in Monday’s attack at a Catholic Supply store in another St. Louis suburb, Ballwin. Bruce’s arrest ended a two-day manhunt that frightened the region and led some schools, churches and businesses to close. Authorities say the gunman sexually assaulted someone and shot 53-year-old Jamie Schmidt in the head. The married mother of three died later at a hospital…

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/thomas-bruce/

    E. Rekshun

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • Ten-year Navy veteran, married with a child, some sort of minister … doesn’t sound Beta and definitely not Incel.

      Peter

      ironrailsironweights

      November 21, 2018 at EST pm

      • One of the guys I went to college with was at one point in his life “Air Force Chaplin of the year”. This guy was extremely ‘beta’ in the sense that you’re using it. We worried that if he ever became a youth pastor, he wouldn’t be able to keep order.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 22, 2018 at EST pm

  19. The Prime Directive of Christianity is to spread Christianity to all the corners of the globe.

    Tom

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

  20. In order to preach, could he speak their language?

    stopped doomsday clock

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • No; no one from the “civilized” world can; no one even knows what type of language they speak. Mr. Chau would have *heard* words in their language and if he transcribed them in any way before he was killed, those notes would be *priceless*.

      Kyo

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • They could send a drone with camera and microphone. Should be easy enough to learn their language. Would be interesting for linguists and anthroplogists.

      destructure

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Just to see the reaction, it’d be fun to fly over the island and drop a buncha rubber chickens or something

        driveallnight

        November 23, 2018 at EST pm

      • Drop a coke bottle and replay The Gods Must Be Crazy.

        Half Canadian

        November 24, 2018 at EST pm

  21. The Sentinelese tribe that lives on this island has resisted contacts with outsiders for hundreds of years. Frequently this resistance has been violent. In a few attempts at contact, outsiders that have heard their spoken language concluded it is not related to languages spoken on any of the nearby islands. There are no bilingual individual who can act as a translator. This would indicate this tribe has been isolated for hundreds or thousands of years.

    It is not clear how many individuals live on the Island. In 1981 a cargo ship ran aground near the island. The captain reported being threatened by about 50 islanders with bows/arrows and spears. A 2001 census that was taken at a distance found only about 40 individuals, although it may have missed many. The 2011 census also taken at a distance only found 15 individuals. In 2004 there was a tsunami in the Indian ocean. It is unknown what effect it had on this island or the Sentinelese tribe.

    MikeCA

    November 21, 2018 at EST pm

    • It seems to me that a fleet of drones could probably do a much more accurate census, but who would be interested enough to pay for it?

      Mike Street Station

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Lots of anthropology types would love to fund it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Probably it won’t be long until someone does it just for LOLZ and views on Youtube. What is the range of a drone these days?

        fortaleza84

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • They might fund it if the drones could hide somehow.

        Lowe

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • Looks like you guys already beat me to the idea of drones and anthropologists.

        destructure

        November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • You see (or saw) a similar isolationism in amazonian tribes. Tribes living less than a mile apart have no interaction other than warfare.

      Even if the tribes evolved separately they probably originated from the same migration wave.

      toomanymice

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

  22. Catholicism is a fanatical, passionate and demanding religion. As its hold on its adherents weakened , it gave rise to the passionate Fado. If Portugal weren’t Catholic, would there be Fado? I don’t think so. Here Carminho, still wearing braces, singing with the best fadistas of the country. She is truly beautiful.

    Yakov

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

  23. Fado of the hours

    I used to cry for not seeing you,
    And now that I see you, I cry.
    I used to cry for not seeing you,
    And now that I see you, I cry.

    But I cry only because I want,
    I want to see you all the time.
    But I cry only because I want,
    I want to see you all the time.

    Time goes by in a rush
    When you speaking and I’m hearing you.
    Time goes by in a rush
    When you speaking, I’m hearing you.

    In the course of our lives,
    Every hour is like a minute.
    In the course of our lives,
    Every hour is like a minute.

    When you are near me,
    I feel as though the world is mine.
    When you are near me,
    I feel as though the world is mine.

    But how cruel time is,
    Because every hour is like a minute.
    But how cruel time is,
    Because every hour is like a minute.

    Just be at my side
    And don’t go away any more,
    Just be at my side
    And don’t go away any more,

    So that this poor heart of mine
    May live one hour in its whole life
    So that this poor heart of mine
    May live one hour in its whole life.

    This, being folk music, is truly amazing.

    Yakov

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

  24. “In 2004 there was a tsunami in the Indian ocean. It is unknown what effect it had on this island or the Sentinelese tribe.”

    My understanding is they were fine as their elder’s teachings had information on recognizing potential Tsunamis. They headed to high ground well before.

    The dead man is being reported also as an ‘extreme tourist’..

    robert

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

  25. Study and debating the Talmud made Jews smart. Prominent Talmudic scholars were seen as desireable son in-laws and so had their choice of brides. This enabled them to pass on their genes and amplified their reproductive fitness.
    By contrast the dominant form of Christianity in western and central Europe in the Middle Ages was Roman Catholicism. It was strictly forbidden to translate Christian scripture into languages other than Latin; people could be and often people would be executed for attempting to do so.
    Only a very small cadre were required to be able to read and even they would be closely scrutinized for signs of heresy
    There were many highly intelligent Catholic priests but they were expected to be celibate and usually they were although a few did have progeny. In practice Roman Catholic Christianity selected the most gifted and intelligent males and handicapped them vis a vis their dumber counterparts with regard to spreading their genes.

    Dr Hook

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • Slightly off topic, but that celibacy thing continues to pay bad dividends to this day, now that you have a bunch of queer priests buggering boys, and getting promoted all the way up the ranks. If the Catholics could drop one rule, that would probably be the best one.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 22, 2018 at EST pm

      • Since the current Pope seems to oppose most of what traditional Catholicism is about, it’s a wonder he hasn’t dropped the celibacy rule already.

        Mike Street Station

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • It’s unrelated to communism, so he doesn’t care.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 23, 2018 at EST pm

    • The Catholics got one big thing right. Eliminate sacerdotalism and you will have a flurry of crackpot spinoffs operating under the ‘Christianity’ copyright. Think sex cults such as original Mormonism and Children of God.

      BTW- Lion should add sex cults to his repertoire of topics, as in are they a credible option for incels? I gather that in the Children of God, Christian oriented sex cult, that female members were required to have sex with any male member who wanted it. Not just the leader.

      Curle

      November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • Mormonism isn’t a sex cult. Its a slightly unveiled (from the esoteric) Christianity, and a family positive religion, because it looks to promote “ascension” rather than to give a more vague choice that can also lead to “decension”: as Catholicism does and most other denominations do (note that Catholicism is the most liberal large denomination according to voting statistics).

        There is a political purpose to all religion, and especially large denominations. Institutional power, and especially that which looks to lead large multicultural populations, will never look to actually empower them with religion or in any other way. Just the opposite. Of course, Catholicism gives you the choice and thus remains a valid religion. Some make the right choice. However, it doesn’t make the moral choice easy with its conflicting moralities and lack of consistent leadership down the correct path toward “Heaven”.

        Sam

        November 25, 2018 at EST am

  26. Defending their island, good for them.

    “He loved God, life, helping those in need and had nothing but love for the Sentinelese people,” the family said. “We forgive those reportedly responsible for his death. We also ask for the release of those friends he had in the Andaman Islands.”

    Yeah, he had nothing but love…for complete strangers. Westerners make me sick.

    Rona

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • Why, love for humanity is taught by many religions. It shouldn’t be thrown around easily, though.

      Yakov

      November 22, 2018 at EST am

      • That love is about as meaningful as when Kim Kardashian says to a crowd of applauding idiots “Oh, I love you guys”.

        Love is the most powerful emotion a human can have, reserved for close relationships of family, community and possibly God.

        But I guess some who walk among us are so enlightened and so virtuous that their heart encompasses all of humanity. Oh, can’t leave out animals on the endangered list as well. What despicable liars.

        Rona

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • Ones love should be judged by one’s actions, not words. I believe that it’s real, but rather rare. You have it many religious teaching, not just Christianity and these people do walk among us.

        Yakov

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • Loving humanity and loving one’s family are mutually exclusive. I’m not saying one should hate humanity. But ‘loving humanity’ is a symptom of degeneracy and self-hatred.

        destructure

        November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • “Loving humanity and loving one’s family are mutually exclusive. I’m not saying one should hate humanity. But ‘loving humanity’ is a symptom of degeneracy and self-hatred.”

        I wouldn’t take it that far, but loving a stranger as much as a perfectly good family member is definitely a symptom of degeneracy and self-hatred.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        November 26, 2018 at EST am

    • Have love for yout family and your people!

      This western altruism toward strangers is a hateful weapon of intra-group competition.

      fakeemail

      November 22, 2018 at EST pm

  27. Missionary zeal is definitely a component of evangelicalism. Many people who grow up in these churches absorb the idea that if you really love Jesus, you’ll give up everything to go to the farthest reaches of the earth and lead primitive peoples to Jesus. In my twenties, I had oneitis for a girl who was like that, and one of the things I agreed to do (reluctantly) in an effort to win her over was read Through Gates of Splendor, Elisabeth Elliot’s account of her late husband Jim’s effort to evangelize an isolated Amazon tribe resulting in his death at their hands. (Lion and many commenters probably have never heard of them, but Elisabeth Elliot was something of a celebrity in evangelical circles, and Jim Elliot a legend who was held up as an example.) Anyway, after reading the book, I could clearly tell that Jim wanted to be martyred. She titled one chapter “I Dare Not Stay Home,” from a passage from one of his letters. That sense of guilt is a common component of missionary zeal; this sense that if these tribesmen die without ever having heard of Jesus, they’ll go to hell, and it wlil be my fault, because I could have gone and shared the gospel with them, but selfishly chose to stay home in safe, prosperous, suburban America instead. He repeatedly pushed to make in-person contact with the tribe while his associates told him it was too soon. The team made a few fly-overs in an airplane, dropping gifts, which seemed to be well-received. After this, Jim insisted on going into their territory on foot, even after the guy who piloted the plane and their other guy kept telling him the tribe probably wasn’t ready and urging him to reconsider. Then BAM–spear to the heart! The martyr complex is a real thing.

    In that case, however, they did eventually make peaceful contact with the tribe. Elisabeth wrote afterword saying “I am sitting here next to the man who killed my husband” indicating at least they were able to get the savages to believe that killing somebody wasn’t good. Unlike the Sentinelese, who have learned precisely nothing from this interaction.

    Hermes

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • When I was a kid, I had that guy held up to me as a role model, or at least a standard. You’re embarrassed to hand out tracts?!? Jim Elliot loved Jesus so much he was willing to die. How much do you love Jesus?

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 23, 2018 at EST am

  28. Or more stupid white male entitlement, right???

    GondwanaMan

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

    • Wrong. He wasn’t even white.

      destructure

      November 22, 2018 at EST pm

  29. ‘My Prayer’ by a great fadista. True Catholic passion. I love it!

    A minha oração

    Não fui menino de coro
    Nunca aprendi a rezar
    Mas aprendi este choro
    Que a vida me soube dar

    Esta mágoa na garganta
    Com que canto os meus revezes
    Diz o povo que quem canta
    Reza sempre duas vezes

    Cada verso uma oração
    Um Padre-Nosso rezado
    E na minha confissão
    Vão as rimas do meu fado

    Nunca aprendi a rezar
    A erguer as mãos aos céus
    Mas eu sinto que ao cantar
    Estou a conversar com Deus

    My prayer

    As a child, I wasn’t a choirboy.
    I haven’t learned how to pray
    But I’ve learned this crying
    That life taught me so well

    I’ve learned this sorrow in my throat [voice]
    By means of which I sing of my misfortunes
    People say that he who sings
    Says a prayer twice*

    Every verse is a prayer
    A Lord’s prayer that I say
    And my confession sheds itself
    By the rhymes of my fado

    I haven’t learned how to pray,
    How to raise my hands skywards
    But I feel that, when I sing,
    I am talking to the Lord

    Yakov

    November 22, 2018 at EST am

  30. I once read a book by Croatian priest who, after years of asking, got permission from the Vatican to go to Africa as a missionary. Although all were from neighboring Catholic countries ethnicity still mattered and there was a definite friction between Poles, Croats and others.

    Missions were going well, they were building schools and churches, water wells, repairing dirt roads etc. When Africans see village progress they convert to Christianity but it was clear from the descriptions of their behavior that it was a very different understanding of religion. Men still had multiple wives and it was extraordinarily difficult to convince them that God demands one wife per man.

    Building of one church was financed with donations from Croats and the priest wanted to put several stones from different parts of Croatia inside the wall as a gesture of thanks to people who collected money. When his black apprentice saw the stones wrapped in cloth be begged the priest to give him one, believing it had special powers. His superstition was so strong there was nothing the priest could do to convince him it was just a stone from a different country.

    The priest was a skilled electrician and traveled from one mission to the next installing electrical equipment in churches and schools. Over the years he build up a whole crew of Africans, who would learn a trade for free and then have a job as an electrician or a mechanic.

    Last thing I remember after many years he eventually got too sick and returned to Croatia. His conclusion was Africans would be unable to continue the work by themselves without European supervision.

    Rona

    November 23, 2018 at EST am

    • African colonialism was actually the best possible thing for Africans.

      Lowe

      November 23, 2018 at EST am

      • But the worst possible thing for Europeans, at least when combined with the beliefs that all human beings are innately equal and that all their problems are our fault.

        Hermes

        November 23, 2018 at EST pm

    • That kind of stuff was a big deal in Haiti too. From what I’ve read, locals were intent on stealing communion wafers to use in Voodoo spells.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 26, 2018 at EST am

  31. OT: Star Trek inspires physics professor to invent “ionic wind” propulsion “with a thrust-to-power ratio comparable to that achieved by conventional systems such as jet engines.” It’s not just theory. They’ve built working models.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/nov/21/first-ever-plane-with-no-moving-parts-takes-flight

    destructure

    November 23, 2018 at EST am


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