Lion of the Blogosphere

College, part 1

To start this series, let’s slay the dragon that keeps popping up in the comments of conservative and HBD-oriented blogs. These blog commenters have the false belief that corporations believe in everything Arthur Jensen ever wrote about IQ, but they cannot use IQ tests to hire people because of Griggs v. Duke Power Co., so instead they use college degrees to hire.

Totally false!

To start with, Griggs v. Duke Power Co. held that it was illegal for Duke Power Co. to require a high school diploma because they said it caused disparate impact because a higher percentage of blacks didn’t have a high school diploma. So there’s no safe harbor in that case that allows companies to use degrees or diplomas as hiring requirements.

As of 2015, in the United States, 36.2% of non-Hispanic whites 25 or older had college degrees, compared to only 22.5% of blacks. So theoretically, companies could be sued for illegal racial discrimination for making a college degree a requirement for getting hired, just as Duke Power Co. got sued and lost because they made a high school diploma a requirement for getting hired.

Furthermore, I assure you that no one in corporate America believes in Arthur Jensen, and if you on the rare occasion run across someone who even knows who he is, 95% likely what they think they know about him is that he was a racist.

Nope, what is happening here is that nearly everyone (at least nearly everyone among the elites) believes that college is really really really really important. That includes people running corporations, lawyers who work at the DOJ and the EEOC, journalists, and politicians. They all believe it!

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 9, 2019 at EST pm

Posted in Economics, Education

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  1. Goodthinkers (including most of the elite) believe college somehow insures a person is intelligent.

    Oswald Spengler

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • The believe that college MAKES people intelligent.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • They also think it’s a sign that they will be good employees, because they were willing and able to jump through the kind of hoops necessary to get a white collar job.

        Hermes

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • That’s why I always cringe whenever my prole family mine as gush with praise about the fact that I graduated college. Mum, it’s really not a big deal. Every prole has a degree now.

        Destroyeebywow

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • No, they do not think college MAKES a person intelligent. HR knows that a college degree signals intelligence AND commitment. People who serve in the military, or did missionary work abroad, are also favored in hiring. Everyone knows there are some highly intelligent people who cannot make it through university. They can’t cope with living away from home, or committing to school for four years.

        Almost all of the commenters here could graduate from Harvard. The hard part is getting in. The type of person who can jump through those hoops at 17 will play along in corporate America.

        Vince

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • “HR knows that a college degree signals intelligence AND commitment.”

        HR doesn’t know anything. They just urge hiring managers to hire more women and minorities.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • College is supposed to make you a lover of learner.

        How’s that working out for proles and nums who perceive education only as a vocational process…leading to a well paying job?

        Our higher education system is just another value transference scheme. If not, it’s a grooming cycle of fine individuals in the Ivies who will become money sucking vampires.

        Other than that, the entire college industrial complex is one fat parasite, no different from other parasitic industries that lives off gov’t subsidies. Quite frankly, Americans are just parasites in general, who consume more than they deserve.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • “the entire college industrial complex is one fat parasite”

        Proof of a post-scarcity economy that so many people work in parasitic industries. An oversupply of labor.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • I’d agree. The problem is that we have parasites who are a drain to society.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • It’s totally hoop jumping. 85% of any job is hoop jumping, not an application of raw intelligence. They truly do need proof that you can jump hoops, which isn’t super strongly correlated to smarts. I don’t think you could issue a psychometric test that would confirm whether or not an individual can spend multiple years wasting over half their time on pointless nonsense. College is perfect for that.

        bobbybobbob

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • Wasting 3-4 just to “signal” intelligence and commitment is an utter waste of time and money. Armies which have to recruit directly from high school figured out long time ago how to judge people based on couple of tests and other indicators.

        Hashed

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • Lion, what if I told you that you and I belong to the same labor union? That millions of American do?

        It’s a union with no headquarters and no leadership. It’s a closed shop, which was technically outlawed by the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947. That means you can’t work in this field without being in the union. Membership dues can run as high as six figures, it takes four years to get your membership card, and you can’t get out of paying it in full unless you die or are permanently disabled. And the union doesn’t offer any benefits. No health plan, no retirement plan, no life insurance or funeral coverage. And there’s no collective bargaining. Any benefits, you have to fight for them yourself.

        It’s called The American Brother-and-Sisterhood of White Collar Workers.

        njguy73

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • > Armies which have to recruit directly from high school figured out long time ago

        I think you’re stuck 90 years in the past. Modern military operations are increasingly technically complex and involve intensive long term training, such that your point is moot. We don’t really do much cannon fodder anymore. To the extent morons get folded into the MIC it’s for the same affirmative action reasons as the rest of corporate america. They would rather hire mostly college educated people. In fact, a major failing in recent history has been crew reduction plans on ship designs. The idea was that with modern tech you don’t really need so many people on-board a ship. Well, that might be possible, but it doesn’t work with idiots. You need much more expensive people for it to work at all, because idiots can’t maintain and repair high tech. So the whole plan doesn’t even pencil out in affirmative action land. (More evidence against Lion’s no-work fantasy post-scarcity land.)

        A thing I doubt most people get is that a lot of pentagon largess is really about employing competent ex-warriors from age 40 to 50 something. These guys have engineering degrees and flew helicopters and tested missiles and torpedos in the fleet, and then they hit a certain age. They can’t deploy for months and do long watches anymore. And they’re also not useful in the “real world” to private sector employers in an obvious way. Simply toss them to the curb and the staffing pipeline obviously fails. So they sit in meetings for another twelve years. I think a lot of corporate America actually also works like this: burn out people 20 to 35 when they are producing huge amounts of value, but then let them hang around and do less at a reasonable wage after that for a while. I’ve seen this quite a bit. It’s not some retarded neologism like “value-transference” but a rational market adaptation overlaid with social traditions.

        bobbybobbob

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • I don’t know about the American army but the Israeli army hardly recruit any college graduates and when they do they pay for their studies and use them for their specific expertise. Most soldiers are operators, not technicians and certainly not engineers, and most of them played enough video games to be able to operate any modern military equipment with couple of months of training. The army have to decide who is going to be a truck driver, an infantry soldier or a pilot and they got pretty good evaluation systems to do that which takes only couple of days.

        Hashed

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm

      • ” don’t know about the American army but the Israeli army hardly recruit any college graduates and when they do they pay for their studies and use them for their specific expertise.”

        Yeah I think bobbybobbob might be confused that officers are generally required to have college degrees, but enlisted are not, and are recruited right out of high school and fill the technical jobs based on their performance on tests and military schooling.

        Mike Street Station

        January 11, 2019 at EST pm

      • I’m not confused about anything, Mike. The complexity of modern warfare mostly precludes the GED crowd altogether. The services hire loads of dumb people as part of a social engineering scheme, not because that’s how you win a battle. The dumb people mostly shuffle paper and clean things; things which should mostly go undone.

        bobbybobbob

        January 12, 2019 at EST pm

      • @bobbybobbob, i was referring to this comment of yours, “They would rather hire mostly college educated people.” That isn’t true. College almost always brings nothing to the technical fields the military is recruiting to fill.

        Mike Street Station

        January 13, 2019 at EST am

      • “HR doesn’t know anything. They just urge hiring managers to hire more women and minorities.”

        Not least because the people who work in HR are primarily women and minorities…

        Tarl

        January 13, 2019 at EST pm

  2. For most people college is the first chance for them to be on their own. Parents can no longer nag you about homework or studying for tests. College is a test of whether someone can work on their own without constant supervision.

    When I went to a selective university my freshman year I was surprised how many students failed that test.

    MikeCA

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • Ha. You don’t know the latest trends in modern helicopter parenting. Parents today definitely nag their children in college about homework and studying. They can do this thanks to modern communications technology. I’m so old I can remember when college dorms had one rotary-dial phone that everyone on that floor shared. In those days, you didn’t have to talk to your parents for the entire semester if you didn’t want to. Nowadays, they can text, email, IM, etc.

      Tarl

      January 13, 2019 at EST pm

  3. College has become essentially self-perpetuating. So many people go to college, thanks to the federal student loan program, that employers assume that anyone without a college degree must be some sort of babbling idiot who cannot use a flush toilet without assistance. As a result, employers demand degrees for jobs where having degrees is wholly irrelevant, and this leads to more and more people going to college.

    On a better note, here’s a very cute Southern chick with a nice rump shooting shotgun slugs, which are nasty things to fire. She maintains pretty good accuracy at 150 yards, which is very, very long range for a slug.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • >>On a better note, here’s a very cute Southern chick

      Cute chick. That’s an even cuter farm. Damn. Anybody lurkers here who are young, save your money, buy something like this. A couple of hundred acres of good farm land. Even if you don’t farm it, you can lease it out and live the life of an American seigneur. Retreat from this damn world. I bet that entire farm could be bought for less than the price of a 1 bedroom Manhattan apartment.

      Daniel Heneghan

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • Here’s 200 acres of lightly wooded land in central Texas for $585,000, not many decent Manhattan apartments in that price range. There’s electricity along the property line, and it’s an hour from the decent-sized city of San Angelo.
        https://www.landandfarm.com/property/Ruff_200_ac_-8859917/

        For less than the price of a well-equipped pickup truck you can get 200 acres of arid, off-grid land in a very rural part of Nevada:
        https://www.landandfarm.com/property/200_Acres_in_Lander_County-702067/

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • What are property taxes like on those properties?

        Yakov

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • >>What are property taxes like on those properties?

        I have little doubt that they are low, ridiculously low by NY/NJ/CT suburban standards.

        Daniel Heneghan

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

    • Cow moooing in the background. Nice touch.

      The Island

      January 10, 2019 at EST am

  4. I thought anymore a degree was just a baseline measure of conscientiousness. Like attendance, deadlines, paperwork.

    Especially now. There are a lot of weird, flakey, strung-out people walking around.

    Mrs Stitch

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  5. Most people don’t understand the difference between training and education. Companies no longer want to train their employees and want the government to shoulder the cost. Only smart people should get a subsidized education, others and the unmotivated should get training

    cesqy

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • That’s correct. Most Americans could care less what they’ve learned after 4 years of college. Their ultimate goal is a steady paycheck that indicates a living wage.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  6. Job ads routinely specify required degrees, so employers advertise for workers as if there were a safe harbor for doing so.

    Beliavsky

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  7. Exactly right Lion. The vast majority of Americans don’t read blogs or forums, they get their world view from TV news, the occasional magazine in a doctor’s office, church and friends and neighbors. They don’t think about IQ and consciously think about race only when they have to. Even conservatives mentally reward themselves for “not being racist” and feel warm tinglies when a black girl wins a spelling bee or a handsome black doctor appears to know what he’s talking about. The programming goes deep.

    Peter Akuleyev

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  8. Lion – only 30 – 40 national colleges matter !!!! Add in about 25 liberal arts college.

    If you through the US news top 30 universities, the average senior class is 1300 students for the private schools and 5,000 for the larger state schools and some bigger private university like NYU have like 4000 seniors

    So (25 x 1200) + (5 x 4000) = 50,000 seniors from national universities
    Add in liberal arts (20 x 500 students) = 10,000 seniors from liberal arts universities.
    So 60,000 students total from elite universities.
    I would subtract maybe 30 to 40% of these because of low ability, or motivation, or AA or whatever, or Mrs degree, legacy.. etc..

    So in reality you really have 30-40k students that graduating every year from about what 2 million college students (this includes bachelor and associate). so like 2.0% of total college degree graduates are elite….

    If you include total high school population, thats like 3.6 million, so that 40k elite graduate is more like 1.0%…

    and Yes I realize that you can rise up from a shitty state school ranked #100, Fine – add in another 1000 over achievers, so you have 41,000 now. if they were already over achievers, then most likely they wouldve been in a top 30 school.

    My point is that its not college that’s determines your elite, its ELITE colleges that filter the elite. And it does a very good job of literally filtering the top 1% of 22 year olds every year. This is an amazing statistic.

    uman

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • > add in another 1000 over achievers
      Where did you come up with this number? Using an imaginary number to prove your thesis. The moment you change it to 40,000, the figures become rather different.

      I have a personal status stake in this. I went to a top 50 private university and feel butt hurt when people don’t realize how many reasonably smart are even really smart people end up in universities like that for various reasons, including good financial packages or cost considerations.

      Ilya

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • I took that number out my ass. sorry that you are butt-hurt. I was being generous with top 30…
        If its any consolation to your ego I went to the 100th ranked liberal arts school in the country so i’m no elitist.

        You can make the overachiever 5,000… whatever, its not going to change the percentage from 1.0% to 1.5%.
        The reality is that to be elite in this country you need to go to a top 30 program or top liberal arts school.
        Goldman Sachs, Mckinsey, Harvard business school, stanford business school, google (although tech maybe an exception.. i don’t know maybe not), facebook, amazon non-tech roles mostly recruit from these universities.

        Honestly if you are super smart, why would you go to the 50th ranked school??? You could get a free ride in the top schools or any of the top public iveys in the country like berkely, or michigan, uva, unc, ucla, etc…

        That’s not to say you can’t have a good life outside the top 30, sure you could become a doctor or get an accounting degree become a partner at KPMG, or Ernst young, but that’s not elite. The people running the white house (ok the trump admin is a bunch of bozos) but usually the white house staff and support staff are from top schools…

        I could go on on and i’m sure you can give me a lot of counter examples how this CEO went to this non-top 30 school. But elites don’t want to go live in bumble fuck and work 30 years in a company to rise up. They rather take a short cut work for Mckinsey and come in director level in a corporate.

        So sorry that you are hurt 🙂

        uman

        January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • Hey, no worries. It was a tongue-in-cheek comment. I’m not really hurt.

        I’m a software engineer and am quite content with life, vis-a-vis financial aspect, at least.

        I can assure you, however, that while the big names in the industry might afford to be picky — because they have such high compensation and clout — to weed out potential bad candidates, the rate of false positives is very high. In other words, lots of people who are otherwise very qualified don’t end up at McKinsey or Google. Is this a problem? No. A lot of these smart people go to less big name companies that create high value, who are willing to take on more risks with these people.

        Thankfully, it’s relatively cheap to fire unqualified people in the US (unlike, say, in France), so things work out.

        To conclude: it’s very sad that parents and students worry so much about getting into these top 20 schools.

        Ilya

        January 12, 2019 at EST am

    • >Lion – only 30 – 40 national colleges matter !!!! Add in about 25 liberal arts college.

      What is your college list?

      The Old Libertarian

      January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • top 30 US news schools

        uman

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm

  9. USA Today, 01/09/19 – Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos and wife MacKenzie to divorce after 25 years of marriage

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2019/01/09/amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-wife-mackenzie-divorce-after-25-years/2523544002/

    Amazon CEO and founder Jeff Bezos says that he and his wife MacKenzie are divorcing after 25 years of marriage…

    The couple met at management investment firm D.E. Shaw in New York City and married in 1993, six months after MacKenzie asked him out to lunch, according to a Business Insider profile of their marriage.

    A year later, they moved to Seattle to found Amazon, where she became an accountant and one of the first employees for the then-Internet bookseller. Until five years ago, she dropped Bezos off at work in their Honda after they took their four kids to school.

    Since then, Bezos became the world’s richest man, supplanting Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates on Forbes’ annual list of the 400 richest Americans three months ago, with his net worth rising to $160 billion, up from $81.5 billion a year ago. MacKenzie Bezos became a novelist, winning an American Book Award for her 2005 debut novel “The Testing of Luther Albright.” Subsequently, she released the book “Traps” in 2013…

    It’s unclear whether the couple had a prenuptial agreement…Crisis management expert Juda Engelmayer said the split “will be about money, and it’s not going to be about control of the company.” …

    E. Rekshun

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • Making her the world’s richest woman!

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • >Making her the world’s richest woman!

        Lion, besides sweetheart government regulations, divorce (and divorce litigation?) may be the main understudied means of value-extraction

        The Old Libertarian

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

  10. Disparate impact is not illegal. screening would only be illegal if it, first, leads to a disparate impact and then, second, it’s shown that there is no valid justification for such testing. The plaintiff must clear both hurdles.

    grey enlightenment

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • You and Lion are missing the point. The actual Griggs boundary was presumed to be a starting point back in the day. No self respecting corp. wanted their name attached to the next landmark case centered on testing. Plus, the feds effectively did away with it as well setting an example.

      Curle

      January 10, 2019 at EST pm

  11. It is easy to check that companies do require high school or GED or higher degrees for most jobs. You can check job postings if you have doubts. It is also obvious (to me) that most managers know that what they believe and do has to be different from what they admit to anyone, except maybe to their boss. Also, colleges provide very efficient learning environment. The proof is in the absence of the developed modern society in any country that could operate without using colleges.

    My 2¢

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  12. Any in person interview is equivalent to a reliable enough IQ test (to +/- half sigma), especially if there are multiple people interviewing the same candidate.

    My 2¢

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

  13. To start this series, let’s slay the dragon that keeps popping up in the comments of conservative and HBD-oriented blogs. These blog commenters have the false belief that corporations believe in everything Arthur Jensen ever wrote about IQ, but they cannot use IQ tests to hire people because of Griggs v. Duke Power Co., so instead they use college degrees to hire.

    Keep beating that strawman, Lion.

    The argument isn’t that they all secretly know the value of IQ – it’s that some people secretly know the value of IQ (Bill Gate’s famous statement that his competition was Goldman Sachs because they competed with him for hiring high IQ people or early google’s famed hiring interview questions which were basically taken from IQ tests). In a world where it’s legal to just check IQ eventually everyone learns about its value.

    The second part is equally a misrepresentation. It doesn’t matter what the Griggs vs Duke Power actually said – not a bit – just like it doesn’t matter that the Civil War wasn’t fought to enshrine gay marriage in the Constitution. What matters is that if you test for IQ you get sued by the EEOC or by job applicants and the legal case that gets cited is Griggs.The case could well have been about defective lawnmower blades – doesn’t matter at all. IQ testing is illegal for hiring, requiring college degrees isn’t – de facto – period.

    Steve Johnson

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • “Bill Gate’s famous statement that his competition was Goldman Sachs because they competed with him for hiring high IQ people”

      There was no competition at all if Bill Gates wanted to hire the highest IQ people who didn’t have MBAs from Harvard/Wharton/Stanford.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • Goldman takes smart kids right out of undergrad. They will even take high IQ liberal arts majors. They are arrogant and believe they can train smart people far better than an MBA program.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • There was no competition at all if Bill Gates wanted to hire the highest IQ people who didn’t have MBAs from Harvard/Wharton/Stanford.

        You’re still missing the point.

        If he didn’t care about the elite educations – which he might not have – then he’d’ve needed another way to get a reliable IQ indicator – which is illegal.

        Steve Johnson

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm

  14. I’m reading this thread at a restaurant in SF. A woman at the next table is telling the others that her son got a PhD in architecture from Harvard and married a woman from Shanghai, before moving to Palo Alto. I really wonder whether liberal and conservative women can be distinguished by the former’s use of the phrase “our dearest friends.” For some reason that phrase drives me up the wall. Maybe I’m just a misogynist.

    Marty

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • >>A woman at the next table is telling the others that her son got a PhD in architecture from Harvard and married a woman from Shanghai, before moving to Palo Alto.

      Charles Murray’s prediction is on the mark.

      Daniel Heneghan

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

      • More evidence that race is less important than cast for elites.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • Reliable and predictive = evil. Never forget.

        Curle

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm

  15. College: Bullshit qualification for bullshit jobs.

    Daniel Heneghan

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • I like Greg Gutfield’s definition of a bullshit job: any job that you can do drunk.

      njguy73

      January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • No job that does not actually involve slinging bulls sh!t is a BS job, that’s just marxist-speak.

      Capitalism liberated us from the farm and starting at a mule’s rear end all day. What families did with it is another matter.

      The Old Libertarian

      January 10, 2019 at EST am

  16. According to this law review article, the original EEOC complaint in Griggs was about segregation of black employees into only certain jobs, the company responded that it chose people for jobs based on testing, and the complainants claimed such actually wasn’t trye. I didn’t read tge whole thing, but so far nothing about hjgh school diolomas.
    http://vanderbiltlawreview.org/content/articles/2014/01/Garrow-67-Vand.-L.-Rev.-197.pdf

    Don’t know if you’re aware of this, but by statute in California (Unruh Act) an employer can’t discriminate based on personal appearance. So I couldn’t reject all applicants with visible tattoos, even though they’d scare away many of my customers. So that would be a reason to require a college degree right there – at least up to about 2000, you were pretty unlikely to find any college graduates with visible tattoos.

    Department 11

    January 9, 2019 at EST pm

    • While I agree in principle with all of what is being discussed here (colleges don’t educate, colleges will take anybody, etc etc), in practice, its not that way.

      If you have interacted with Walmart clerks, or drywall contractors, or electricians, or UPS delivery guys, or any other ‘non-college’ job, you can almost immediately tell the difference between that guy and college folks-even low end college folks who end up managing Taco Bell or selling insurance. College makes a difference. That extra four years of reading and writing make a difference. You can tell in behavior, in accent, in view of the world, in every way.

      I’m not saying there aren’t exceptions (in both groups-genuinely unsophisticated college grads and genuinely intelligent plumbers). But the exceptions prove the rule.

      anon

      anonymousse

      January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • That could be because people are self-selected. Prole-oriented people don’t want to go to college. And then they work with other prole people in a prole job, and their prole behaviors get reinforced.

        I agree that it’s pretty hard to be SWPL without going to college, where you hang out with SWPL friends, then get a credential to get into a SWPL career track.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • The baseline for establishing a SWPL or Prole is the type of college or study, and not whether the person has a 4 year degree.

        SWPL career tracks are few and far in between.

        You have a commenter here who is a college professor. You have a guidette commenter who has a library science degree.

        Other than that, what you and other commenters are spouting pertains to yuppie professions. Yuppies aren’t exactly leftists, but they are indeed strivers, and proles do in fact get into things that are “SWPL” oriented.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        January 10, 2019 at EST am

      • Pass tests that measure high school level math and English. Take 18 classroom credits + life experience and around 6 credits
        of ‘independent’ study and you are the proud owner of a BS in workforce training from any number of struggling 4 year colleges.

        Curle

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm

      • College makes a difference. That extra four years of reading and writing make a difference. You can tell in behavior, in accent, in view of the world, in every way.

        And especially spelling and grammar proficiency. Have you ever looked at Craigslist listings!

        they work with other prole people in a prole job, and their prole behaviors get reinforced.

        When I was barely out of my pre-teens, my parents let me get a job pumping gas at a nearby gas station. My prole White adult coworkers were a very rough bunch: on-the-job drinking & drug use, physical fights including with customers, infidelities & skirt-chasing, stealing out of the til, absenteeism, imprisonment, etc. Oddly, they never really seemed to try to persuade me to partake in their degenerate behaviors; they were probably glad that there was one reliable worker that would show up to open up the place and do some work.

        After I got robbed late one night by two armed White proles (one being a former employee of the place), handcuffed, and beat bloody, my parents kind of wanted me to stop working there but quickly dropped it. Instead of working 20 to 30 hours per week for $2/hr cash, often to midnight, so I could buy dirtbikes and custom parts for my hot rod, my parents should have been encouraging me to participate in extracurricular activities and prepping for the SAT. Oh well, I learned excellent mechanical skills, but that surely was a risky experience for things to go bad.

        E. Rekshun

        January 10, 2019 at EST pm


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