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Why is Kim Jong Un traveling to Vietnam by train?

https://www.businessinsider.com/kim-takes-train-to-trump-vietnam-summit-likely-to-save-face-with-china-2019-2

Because his country doesn’t own a single passenger-carrying airplane capable of making the trip.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 25, 2019 at EDT am

Posted in International

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  1. That’s what your girl Alexandria ocasio-cortez will do to the United States. I mean, you’re on her side aren’t you?

    gothamette

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

  2. …but he can make nukes.

    I guess there is only so much you can squeeze out of a GDP the size of Haiti.

    Mike Street Station

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

  3. There’s something profoundly grotesque about this morbidly obese guy serving as totalitarian dictator over a starving country.

    Two in the Bush

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

    • North Korea isn’t a hungry/starving country today and what troubles they did have in the 1990s were the result of ending generous Soviet subsidies as well as the end of other forms of Soviet political, economic, diplomatic, and military support. The current Kim in power wants to be like his grandfather who presided over an era of victory, power, peace, and prosperity in North Korea. North Korea is militarily stronger than the south but there was even a time when North Korea was economically stronger than South Korea as well the big gap between them only began in the 1980s and beyond under his father’s reign.

      redarmyvodka

      February 26, 2019 at EDT pm

      • ” North Korea is militarily stronger than the south”

        North Korea has manpower and lots of artillery, but South Korea has the latest American technology compared to ancient Soviet crap that the North Koreans have.

        No, the problem is not that South Korea would lose a war, but that Seoul would be destroyed by North Korean artillery.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 26, 2019 at EDT pm

  4. Is it really that or paranoia of being shot down?

    Infinitron

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

    • Definitely the latter Stalin rarely made public appearances and when he did he did so using doubles and almost never traveled by airplane. It’s not just foreign powers but also enemies/rivals in his own government Kim must contend with.

      redarmyvodka

      February 26, 2019 at EDT pm

  5. How Green New Deal of him.

    Donne belle

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

  6. I’m putting this link here, because no one pays attention to old posts. (Sorry Lion, but true.)

    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2950146002?__twitter_impression=true

    I got it from Twitter. I hope it works.

    I have been thinking about what these destructure said about prosecuting people who stage hate crime hoaxes, and I now think that he’s absolutely right.

    In fact, I think staging a hate crime hoax is worse than a true hate crime. A hate crime is simply a crime. I don’t believe in the whole concept of hate crimes but that’s beside the point. If you assault someone because of their race, of course that should be punished. But at the end of the day it is one individual harming another individual. That is very bad, but DS altar is working as a free agent so to speak.

    Staging a hate crime hoax is manipulating the state into assaulting people for you. And that is a much worse thing than an individual committing a crime. The state has a monopoly on violence. And thus violence committed by the state must always be justified and extremely rare and it should never be deployed against the innocent.

    gothamette

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

    • This is kind of silly. The hate in a hate crime is simply an aggravating offense. It’s bad to beat someone up, but it’s especially bad to beat someone up for being Black, gay, whatever as those groups have historically been violently intimidated and oppressed; hate crimes terrorize communities. There are special circumstances for other classes of people (seniors, children, pregnant women).

      Is a hate crime hoax even worse? It could be. However, the intention of hoaxes is almost never to collar some unsuspecting person; it’s to generate sympathy and attention for the “victim.” This has a corrosive effect on the culture, so of course it should be punished. As with most crime, the punishment should be oriented toward reducing the offending behavior (rather than punishment for the sake of punishment). This primarily means deterring others from fabricating their own attacks. We also want to deter the “victim” from re-offending, which usually means rehabilitation, but in the case of a hoax, their credibility is already so severely damaged that it’s not something they would likely get away with in the future.

      Vince

      February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

      • It isn’t silly at all, and I should have known that a third-rate jerk-off leftist like you wouldn’t understand what I was getting at. You’re a waste of time.

        gothamette

        February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

  7. He’s reading your blog. Riding a passenger plane is prole, while a train with amenities and sightseeing is indeed SWPL class.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

  8. Would anyone in their right mind fly on a North Korean airliner, if the Norks had one?

    Oswald Spengler

    February 25, 2019 at EDT am

  9. How does this affect your assessment of Korean IQ? Ha ha, just kidding.

    You know me

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

  10. Perhaps he has a fear of heights like ms. blasey ford.

    toomanymice

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

  11. I get why he isn’t flying. But why not go by boat? Vietnam is lacking in ports? I would think that it would be faster than train, and cheaper too.

    Half Canadian

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

    • I have to agree, boat sounds better.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Likely the only boats available to him are rust bucket cargo ships or stinky fishing boats.

      The greatest humiliation is that he has to travel the last 150 miles by auto. I wonder if the Vietnamese will extend him the use of a limo.

      Daniel Heneghan

      February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

    • His father was genuinely afraid of flying andconstructed a lavish Presidential Train. So first of all it is a really nice train. Second, it recalls his father’s legacy and is viewed as a “traditional” aspect of their heredity dictatorship. This is important for legitimacy. It is why Kim Jong Un dresses and styles his hair in the same manner as his grandfather. Finally, though a boat probably would be both faster and cheaper, it is low status and simply draws attention to the fact he doesn’t have a suitable plane. It isn’t like N. Korea has a HMY Britannia lying around. What would he go over in? A warship? How tacky would that look? Luxury Train is far better choice.

      One potentially nice thing about this otherwise silly nonsense in Venezuela we seem to be getting ourselves involved in is that with the Neocons so focused on that, perhaps Trump will have the freedom to make a deal with Kim. It doesn’t seem like it would be that hard. Why not just get them to promise not to give nuclear or chemical tech to anybody else, do some token denuclearization that gets rid of a portion of your arsenal but retains your regional warheads, and then normalize relations on the Vietnamese model?

      PerezHBD

      February 26, 2019 at EDT am

      • Great insights. I never knew grandfather Kim had a special/presidential/luxury/VIP train outfitted with armor plating and weapon compartments although that makes sense. I also agree that Trump isn’t the driving force behind the Venezuela operation but his GOP subordinates/allies including the vice president are. Let Trump be Trump as he delivers on his domestic/foreign policy goals.

        redarmyvodka

        February 26, 2019 at EDT pm

  12. Why? Because trains good planes bad!

    guests

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

  13. At least he can travel by train. Most of you are not allowed by the US Government to travel to North Korea at all. Pretty cool place, by the way.

    My 2¢

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

  14. North Korea is time capsule land. A few generations ago European monarchs and such all moved around in a mini palace on tracks. Private planes and motorcades took over from that elsewhere but North Korea is a time preservation of the things that were considered prestigious back in the days when communist revolutionaries were still a thing.

    The Romanovs used to take the long route to Europe through Finland (then Russia) and Sweden and since there was no railroad bridge over the border river they made the local peasants carry the train cars for miles. Our commies made a big deal out of what a waste the Tsar’s luxury train was but of course if we had ended up with a commie dictator he would have grabbed those trains for himself. As it is, Finland just made museum pieces out of the cars:

    https://rautatiemuseo.fi/keisarin-junassa

    Tacky. Trump would get along well with Tsar Nicky.

    Jaakko Raipala

    February 25, 2019 at EDT pm

    • I love trains, railroads, locomotives, and the history associated with them. Thanks for the comment and link,

      redarmyvodka

      February 26, 2019 at EDT pm

  15. Lion, I imagine you’re joking, because the DPRK has quite a few passenger airplanes: Ilyushins (and Tupolevs, maybe?) inherited from the old Soviet Union. I’ve been in one, when I visited; we took an Ilyushin. Food was meh but the stewardesses had impeccable manners and knew some English and Mandarin. We flew from China without incident.

    Kyo

    February 26, 2019 at EDT am

  16. Supposedly Kim is afraid to fly. He traveled by train when he went to Moscow (about a week each way).

    Black Death

    February 26, 2019 at EDT am

    • Or maybe he is concerned about his carbon footprint.

      My 2¢

      February 27, 2019 at EDT pm


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