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The Class Ceiling

The Atlantic article headlined The Class Ceiling says what I’ve been writing in my blog for years.

1. It’s beneficial for a young person to have rich parents willing to pay their rent in an expensive city like London (this is a UK-biased article) where the best careers are, so they can work their way up to high-paying self-actualizing jobs. Young people without that parental support likely to get stuck in second-tier careers in second-tier minor cities.

2. Hanging around other upper-middle-class kids when young helps a person pick up an upper-middle-class way of thinking and behaving that makes it much easier to fit in, get along, and be liked by management at upper-middle-class professions. This is one of the major benefits of sending your kids to private school.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 27, 2019 at 5:06 PM

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  1. There aren’t many lodonistans in America, with the exception of NYC.

    SF seems suspect with its techies and large East Asian demographic.

    Can anyone name a high paying, highly desired career that is low-stress in NYC?

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    February 27, 2019 at 5:36 PM

    • “Can anyone name a high paying, highly desired career that is low-stress in NYC?”

      Mayor.

      Peterike

      February 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM

    • Modeling. Celebrity.

      I sing, you dance

      February 28, 2019 at 6:12 AM

    • In my experience, the kind of people who move to NYC are not the kind of people who usually value low-stress jobs. And the kind of helicopter upper-middle class parents who endeavor to raise their kids this way tend to be pretty high-stress themselves, so I expect their kids turn out higher-stress than average as well.

      hdo

      February 28, 2019 at 8:39 AM

  2. OT.

    Lion have you noticed the latest corporate fad, Analytics. Go on to any job board and there are a ton of jobs with Analytics in the job description. Analytics this, analytics that. The job descriptions are vague as to what Analytics entails. It is not as if they are looking for Math or Statistics BA/MAs, just candidates who are “woke” to basic numeracy and simple business statistics. I have no idea what these Analytic professionals do, though. And with all the hype going on one could think that the spreadsheet was invented just yesterday, not 40 years ago.

    It was once assumed that any qualified executive had the skill to do their own numerical and basic statistical analysis. Now it seems that this has to be off-handed to a specialist. The analytics fad also points to a fallacy in American corporate thinking, one that is so evident in the asset management/hedge fund racket. The idea is that if we can just get the right mathematical formulas to model the business then we can just input our data and out will come results that will make us money. Ha, ha. So wrong.

    Daniel Heneghan

    February 27, 2019 at 6:02 PM

    • “It was once assumed that any qualified executive had the skill to do their own numerical and basic statistical analysis.”

      Boy would you be completely wrong about that! They are morons.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 27, 2019 at 11:23 PM

    • It’s usually web and mobile related in the context of consumer facing brands, not serious business process engineering or actuarial science. Companies can now purchase reams of industry relevant tracking and trend data from various web and mobile tracking surveillance outfits and collate with their own metrics, but there’s the problem of making some sort of sense out of the pile. Relate it to ad purchases, web operations, and social media. It’s a big enough hassle some executive isn’t going to waste his time dredging the data. Hence “analytics.” I guess it used to just be left with marketing departments, but marketing majors are way too stupid to do this stuff now.

      bobbybobbob

      February 27, 2019 at 11:47 PM

    • This isn’t just business either. Academia including political science and economics have been increasingly emphasizing data that can be quantified. If it can’t be quantified, it isn’t true. If polls suggest that Trump is going to lose… Trump is going to lose. It’s the one of the most annoying things about American public life right now.

      Kokusenya

      February 28, 2019 at 12:08 AM

    • Lately I have met a lot of people (mostly middle-aged women) who claim to be studying AI Programming.

      fortaleza84

      February 28, 2019 at 5:17 AM

      • The new Web Design major?

        Mrs Stitch

        February 28, 2019 at 5:45 PM

      • Hahaa! I know a guy saying this…

        GondwanaMan

        March 1, 2019 at 8:30 AM

  3. 3. Without an IQ approximating that of an upper middle class person, one is unlikely to benefit, fully, from either advantage.

    Well socialized but dim witted proles are ubiquitous in urban environs and they are no more successful than their hinterland peers.

    Issac

    February 27, 2019 at 6:10 PM

    • Sure, you can’t make a pig’s ear into a silk purse. But even if you’ve got the right stuff, someone poorly socialized will crash and burn.

      Monsieur le Baron

      February 27, 2019 at 11:31 PM

  4. What’s the closest counterpart to London in the Midwest?

    Armando

    February 27, 2019 at 6:28 PM

    • “What’s the closest counterpart to London in the Midwest?”

      Manhattan, Kansas?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 27, 2019 at 11:24 PM

      • Chicago

        ice hole

        February 28, 2019 at 12:26 AM

      • Chicago is the most prestigious city in flyover needs a makeover.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        February 28, 2019 at 12:38 AM

      • It is actually Des Moines, IA – the US capital of insurance.

        My 2¢

        February 28, 2019 at 3:08 AM

    • Chicago.

      PVvanderByl

      February 28, 2019 at 12:15 AM

      • I love Chicago. I visited the Lincoln Park neighborhood there in 2001 and thought I’d died and gone to heaven.

        maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        February 28, 2019 at 10:10 PM

    • dearborn michigan, since both are infested with muslims

      GM

      February 28, 2019 at 2:59 AM

      • I’ve met a young Somalian transplant in NYC, who was originally from Dearborn (not a surprise to anyone), working as a code monkey in the city.

        It was quite interesting to note that he suffered from a cultural shock upon seeing a large contingent of worms that squirms in the Big Apple. He said many NAMs in NYC are just 24 hr children without any regard to time, whose existence is subsidized by the gov’t like De Blasio & Co.

        It must suck to live as a poor NAM in the Midwest. NYC is by far the wealthiest city in America that doles out welfare to anyone who needs it.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        February 28, 2019 at 9:12 AM

      • Never been to Dearborn, but I saw plenty of Somalis in Minnesota.

        White liberals want to shell out money to rescue Somalis from Somalia so that they don’t have to live in a country full of other Somalis.

        The Somalis for their part are happy to take any and every handout they can. To walk around with the Somali blue tooth (hands free operation of a smartphone by stuffing it into the Hijab). To never pay for anything at Walmart except with a government benefits card. To stand there and stare at the cashier when she says there’s not enough money on the card you have to put some things back. To completely despise every Minnesotan for being a kafir.

        It’s a sick match made in heaven. I’ve never been to Dearborn, but Minnesota is in the Midwest, and all parties involved seem to be getting what they want.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        March 1, 2019 at 11:24 AM

  5. That may have been more pertinent 2 decades ago, but the rise of technology culture has leveled the playing filed to some degree allowing smart people of all IQ levels to compete. It’s not like you need to come from a wealthy family and have a lot of connections to get a prestigious job. It helps , all else being equal, but there’s tons of stories of people with no special connections getting high status jobs in tech or finance based on test sores and merit alone.

    grey enlightenment

    February 27, 2019 at 6:55 PM

  6. If one comes from real wealth there is no need to be a striving rat racer and live in a multicultural sewer like London. Paying $10,000 a month in rent to swim in poz and date feminists sounds like a chore. Better to live like a feudal lord in the country side. Build your castle in the woods. Marry a corn fed, conservative lass with wide hips who will warm your heart and bear you a masculine heir. City living is for queens, not kings.

    B.T.D.T.

    February 27, 2019 at 8:08 PM

    • Yes, everyone would like to live in the country. But fortunes are made in the city.

      Not by ordinary people, of course. Only the extraordarily smart, hardworking and lucky. Many believe they are those things, or could be, so they show up, but only a few get the rewards.

      Lowe

      February 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM

    • …if you want a masculine son, you’re going to have to marry a tall, mesomorph with a manjaw and a strong brow ridge.

      You can either have a very feminine wife or have a very masculine son. But you can’t have both.

      SC

      March 2, 2019 at 12:02 PM

  7. If a girl is born repulsive, no amount of parent’s money or hanging out with pretty ladies will help her.

    My 2¢

    February 27, 2019 at 8:16 PM

    • You can fix ugly. Weight loss for the fat girls, and plastic surgery for the facially unattractive girls. Money can buy the world’s best nutritionist, physical trainer, and private in-home gym. It can also buy the world’s best plastic surgeons.

      SC

      March 2, 2019 at 12:03 PM

    • Oprah

      Gm

      March 2, 2019 at 7:41 PM

      • She chooses to be fat. She’s lost weight before, she just doesn’t want to keep it off. Also she could have plastic surgery to look better. Obviously she’ll never be an 8/9/10 but that’s also because she’s really old. If she were younger and got plastic surgery she could be average or slightly above average in looks.

        SC

        March 6, 2019 at 7:04 PM

  8. As a kid of prole immigrant parents I want to send my kids to SWPL private school so they can pick up upper class habits.

    I won’t be able to leave them a large inheritance.

    Jimi

    February 27, 2019 at 9:08 PM

    • Other parents sending their kids to that school will be thinking just like you.

      My 2¢

      February 28, 2019 at 3:12 AM

      • No, proles think like proles and don’t send their kids to good schools.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 28, 2019 at 7:32 AM

      • “No, proles think like proles and don’t send their kids to good schools.”

        When I was a kid in prole Brooklyn inthe 60s and 70s, a “good school” meant one with a special program or a small student-teacher ratio or one with rich students. Today in prole areas a “good” school refers to any school that isn’t a blackboard jungle.

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        February 28, 2019 at 10:15 PM

    • If private schools are like elite private colleges, they are nothing but 100% pozzed SJW factories. There are no more prep schools that turn out classic preppies, like the ones in the Preppy Handbook. The youngest preppies are now probably in their late 40s. Home schooling still gets a bad rap because people think kids should be exposed to diversity at school to teach them what the world is like. But any schooling outside the home has a good chance of turning your kid into a self- and white-hating wretch who wants to get a sex change and hates you because you haven’t adopted illegal immigrants. Is it worth it?

      Horace Greeley

      February 28, 2019 at 9:16 PM

      • That has been my experience. My daughter told me yesterday that she feels guilty for being white. I told her that all people have been enslaved over time. I’ll probably be murdered by an angry parent.

        Joe

        February 28, 2019 at 11:47 PM

  9. I had a second-tier career in first-tier cities most of my life, so I was relieved to find a comparable job in a third-tier city and enjoyed every minute of it: 20 minutes to work with a parking space at the building, a garage at home in my bourgeois single-family house, and a decent salary in a fairly low-cost area. Had I continued the path I was on, I doubt if I would still be alive to write this.

    sestamibi

    February 27, 2019 at 9:08 PM

    • That’s why Lion needs to get out of Manhattan.

      He will never have a first-rate career, and many of the benefits of Manhattan are reserved to the wealthy.

      Instead of obsessing over documentaries about rich kids, Lion should aim for a comparable-paying job in Nashville, Kansas City or Sacramento — places where he can have a spacious house, nice car, easy drive and still have money left over for investments and vacations.

      Justice Duvall

      February 28, 2019 at 12:46 AM

      • The mind of the sophisticate in Manhattan is that there is always a dissatisfaction of someone who is better than you, wealthier than you, more popular than you, and most important, less prole than you, all within the confines of Manhattan.

        Again, the rest of America is kid’s play for any status climbing Manhattanite.

        Lion has access to almost everything at his fingertips, with the exception of a luxury apartment, a hot babe, and a status inducing job that commands a 1/2 million salary for rookies.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        March 1, 2019 at 12:15 AM

      • Except those things, almost everything…

        Lowe

        March 1, 2019 at 10:34 AM

    • Which one’s better? I have a second tier career in a first class city, and I am thinking of working remotely in a rural area. Will probably get laid less though

      bananarama

      February 28, 2019 at 4:16 AM

      • What can I say? You can do this, but there will probably be a lot of cruel, cruel summers. ( Sorry, bro, but when you picked the handle “bananarama” you must have known you were setting yourself up for this!)

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        February 28, 2019 at 10:20 PM

  10. So what? I can’t speak for acting and architecture – are those really elite professions btw? I thought actor is pretty blue collar if you ask me.

    In my experience you have to be pretty ambitious to break through to the elite professions. If you are really rich you are most likely too lazy to compete in investment banking, management consulting, and especially being a doctor…

    If you’re poor and middle class and haven’t figured out that you have to be cut throat in the professionas I’ve just mentioned above (IB, MC, MD) by sophomore year in university you’re not going to cut it anyways….

    I see two kind of people excelling. The upper middle class who know how the game works and the lower middle class high achievers who end up the most successful because they come from nothing. The only thing is the middle class kids are probably 20% of the population and upper middle is probably 60-70%, with 10% being really from rich families (my definition of rich family is $5+ million net worth, which is a low bar or is it a high bar, depending on who you ask…)

    uman

    February 27, 2019 at 9:32 PM

    • Lion’s long standing narrative is that if you get socialized correctly there’s a conveyor belt to status and financial success that once achieved is held. Never mind that these highly socialized people have a habit of clawing in to industries/companies that are past peak and about to crash. You see this over and over. They’re bum rushing web outfits and Apple now, when that’s clearly saturated and due for another crash. They liked GE Capital and Lehman/Bear a decade ago, and were into dotcoms a decade before that.

      bobbybobbob

      February 28, 2019 at 12:00 AM

    • “So what? I can’t speak for acting and architecture – are those really elite professions btw? I thought actor is pretty blue collar if you ask me.”

      It is, but you’re assuming the purpose of the article is to enlighten– it’s to mislead. The author is catering— and further enabling– the middle class and below’s stunted imagination of how American sociology actually works.

      It’s basically the same technique as Warren Buffett wanting to tax the top 1% of income-earners (as opposed to asset holders) out of altruism.

      Kokusenya

      February 28, 2019 at 12:11 AM

  11. I went to a ghetto public high school and then an elite liberal arts college. I’ve seen the entire social spectrum and currently live abroad because I’m so jaded.

    1)Right now, undeniable levels of inequality are forcing the Overton Window to shift in way that allows acknowledgement of the fact that American meritocracy doesn’t really exist. Just 15 years ago people would ridicule you for suggesting that the world is one-sided. People now have a visceral feeling that things aren’t fair, but don’t know why.

    2) The reason why people in public schools and those generally not “in the know” don’t understand why things are off is because they can’t afford to live in a place where they would actually encounter the truly affluent. To the average prole, NYC rich people are probably similar to someone like Trump—that is, basically, a higher net worth version of themselves. The idea of social class is and has been taboo for the longest time, and this taboo will likely endure because acknowledging social class threatens the American empire’s self-conception and ultimately, its legitimacy. What this really means on a day-to-day level is that people thinking on a local level are also surrounded by people thinking on a local level, and deviating from this thought pattern will contradict the public person one has formed and maintained throughout their adult life to remain employable. Most people won’t and cannot change for their own economic survival.

    3) So, how do you reconcile rising public consciousness with inequality with the self-survival-based need to prevent people from realizing what’s really going on? Simple: you just hire professional liars such as the writer of this article to shift blame onto the upper-middle-class. It’s the oldest trick in the book. This is the same strategy as “Taxing the 1% of income-earners”. Because, in the public consciousness, rich people are simply people with higher incomes, not generational assets, writing some bullshit article like this will allow people to blame productive, high-income earners, and not the true owners of society, many of whom do not even live in the United States. There’s a reason why articles like this focus on accounting firms, and not McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, or the array of hedge funds the public will never be aware of. Also, deplatform anyone that says otherwise.This buys the elite maybe 20 more years.

    Kokusenya

    February 27, 2019 at 9:45 PM

    • There simply isn’t a hereditary class of upper class rich people pulling the strings. That would actually be socially workable. Instead we have James Burnham’s Managerial Elite. These people really and truly do come from all walks. But they tend to be horrible people with no concept of loyalty to tribe and nation.

      bobbybobbob

      February 28, 2019 at 12:12 AM

      • Scratch a managerial elite and he will bleed blue. In Japan, almost half of the modern upper middle class is of samurai descent. The estimate in Europe is about 7x overrepresentation, but that’s an acknowledged lower bound since so many records have been destroyed by war.

        And yes, they have no loyalty to tribe or nation.

        Monsieur le Baron

        February 28, 2019 at 7:21 PM

      • I do agree that to a certain extent those genetically gifted or of some sort of lineage will on a relative basis rise to the top, and I believe this to be true of most places, not just Europe or Japan. Speaking personally, I’ve interacted with Manhattanites whose lineage can be traced– and through public records– to the Battle of Hastings.

        However– and I’m writing this from Japan– I would somewhat disagree with the idea that Japanese managerial elites have zero loyalty to their tribe or nation. True enough, Japan is allowing increasing numbers of foreigners into the countries as can be seen by visiting any Lawsons or 7-11. However, I feel that there are too many manufactured particularities about the way Japan is run to conclude that the elites are on a hellbent mission to eradicate their own race. For one, it seems that the level of English intentionally taught at a retarded level to prevent the inherently liberalizing effects that consumption of English-language media entail. Japan also remains ethnically homogeneous. Lastly, Japanese people tend to stay in Japan… there are way more overseas Chinese and even Koreans at top Western universities trying to break into globalist institutions, compared to Japanese ones. I socialize with “Kikokushijo” Japanese on a regular basis here… everyone from Goldman Sachs partners to government bureaucrats… if anything, they’re frustrated with the LACK of globalization here.

        Kokusenya

        March 1, 2019 at 1:28 AM

    • Perhaps the wealthy and powerful understand HBD, and act accordingly as if this is indeed true:

      1) Millions of NAMs with lower IQs are made to compete with middling IQ proles in low skilled labor.

      2) Millions of immigrants many of whom are in fact NAMs are encouraged to take part in America’s capitalistic society, where they are willing to accept lower wages than those of the prole natives.

      3) White technocratic elites understand the docile and subservient quality of East Asians, who are hired to enrich them immensely and not fearing any backlash from them, because East Asians are simply more agreeable by nature in an industry that is the most lucrative in the 21st century. Prolier Whites would jockey with Elite Whites for dominance.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      February 28, 2019 at 1:02 AM

    • Three is a good story without a conflict. He just picks whatever conflict of the day he thinks will excite his readers. Some of the other things you mentioned are obvious to the skilled in the art. You do not have to go to private school to figure them out. The US is not going to disappear in 20 years. It is too resilient for that to happen.

      My 2¢

      February 28, 2019 at 3:19 AM

    • McKinsey? McKinsey is just a parasitic consulting firm that services capital, provides young elites a pedigree, and gets to take some of the cream off the top. Goldman Sachs and the big hedge funds actually control capital.

      Peter Akuleyev

      February 28, 2019 at 4:25 AM

      • Sure, but McKinsey partners still pull in $1m+ a year. That’s enough $ to get quality pus#$y in nyc. Hell, better yet chicago.

        uman

        February 28, 2019 at 9:56 AM

      • Most Chicago women aren’t attractive and NYC is all parasitic industries that require a high babbling IQ.

        Note: Most East Asians with their top credentials aren’t in NYC. This tells you alone the type of industry befitting to the people who strive in the Big Apple rising to the ranks of the upper middle class.

        Furthermore, America has no prestige outside of the NYC-Tri State Area. There are more Harvard grads in the Big Apple than the school’s backyard of Bean Town.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        February 28, 2019 at 1:24 PM

  12. “Hanging around other upper-middle-class kids when young helps a person pick up an upper-middle-class way of thinking and behaving that makes it much easier to fit in”

    I spent the last two years of HS at an elite private school after 10 years at a varying array of public schools some good for public schools some horrible. Big takeaways:

    1) at private school I learned that car dealers and doctors weren’t the pinnacle of wealth and that politicians weren’t running the country and I was introduced to a previously hidden world of really wealthy people who pretty much ran things;
    2) I learned that jocks and cheerleaders didn’t comprise some natural aristocracy as they are treated in public schools but saw they were mostly ignored at the elite school and, in fact, often viewed as déclassé there, at least by the trust fund crowd who were higher on the social ladder;
    3) that environments can be created almost entirely devoid of the kind of losers (wiggers, high-fiving quipsters, hoods, Cheshire & Chong imitators, self-important jocks, etc.) that sour the public school experience;
    4) that there are places that celebrate the smart kids and disallow lettermen jackets;
    5) there are places good at creating a sense of order and that order makes learning easier;
    6) that dress codes are a good thing;
    7) that there are places where your future isn’t constrained by the academic limits of your college counselor’s academic career;
    8) that there are schools where even the sports coaches are smart.

    Curle

    February 27, 2019 at 9:57 PM

    • “jocks and cheerleaders didn’t comprise some natural aristocracy as they are treated in public schools but saw they were mostly ignored at the elite school and, in fact, often viewed as déclassé there,”

      The popular team sports may be “déclassé” but the elites still place a very high value on athletic prowess – but typically those sports are only open to elites – crew, sailing, squash, fencing, even polo (although that is more a sport of the European and South American elites). Elites with military backgrounds seem to like wrestling and rugby. Tennis and alpine skiing (ideally in Utah and Switzerland) are de rigueur past times for all elites. Lacrosse and soccer are more upper middle class than truly elite, but probably won’t harm you socially.

      Peter Akuleyev

      February 28, 2019 at 4:31 AM

      • Soccer in the US is uniquely middle class unlike the rest of the world where everybody play it but most of the professional players are from the lower classes. There is something very unique and interesting about the US national soccer team, many of the players has black father and white mom, much higher than their rate in the regular population. Maybe it is the combination of the black athleticism with the white soccer mom discipline and sensibility. The rest are mostly immigrants, including African immigrants. Not so many African Americans as in other sports.

        Hashed

        February 28, 2019 at 4:15 PM

  13. Sounds like my kid. She left comfortable fly-over land for big bad LA 10 years ago to get an advanced (non-STEM) degree and we’ve had to float her through several very down years. But she now makes about double the LA median. Bad news is she still drives a rattle trap car and can’t afford a house. How anyone does there, I have no idea. Our own income is now far less than that (being semi-retired) but we’re still the financial back-stop.

    Jack Cade

    February 27, 2019 at 10:12 PM

    • Weird. Your ancestors left Europe for better life here, most likely. Now your daughter effectively went back. California is similar to Europe in modest quality of life. Let’s hope your grandchildren do not end up in Asia or Africa.

      My 2¢

      February 28, 2019 at 3:26 AM

    • LA is basically a Third World country. Scaled for PPP, it’s poorer than Baltimore. About a third of it is at the 0th percentile of American SES.

      Monsieur le Baron

      February 28, 2019 at 7:29 PM

  14. “It’s beneficial for a young person to have rich parents willing to pay their rent in an expensive city like London”

    I had middle-class parents in central New Jersey, and boy, I wouldn’t make that mistake again.

    njguy73

    February 27, 2019 at 10:41 PM

    • Same here (and if your handle is an indication, I’m only a few years younger than you). Went to State U as well.

      Kyo

      February 28, 2019 at 10:24 PM

  15. I don’t know that I completely agree with that article, Affluent whites give preferential treatment to the children of other affluent whites. But they also give preferential treatment to minorities. They make exception for minorities and pretty much exempt them from the “unwritten codes” mentioned in the article because they’re different and want to make their quota and feel good about diversity. There is no similar exemption for working class whites. Granted, most working class whites and minorities wouldn’t have the qualifications to be in those positions anyway. But that’s not the point. The point is that some working class whites do and many are shut out unlike working class minorities who are actively recruited to make quota.

    According to a study by Espenshade and Radford on admission to highly selective universities…

    “When lower-class whites are matched with lower-class blacks and other non-whites
    the degree of the non-white advantage becomes astronomical: lower-class Asian applicants
    are seven times as likely to be accepted to the competitive private institutions as similarly
    qualified whites, lower-class Hispanic applicants eight times as likely, and lower-cl
    ass blacks ten times as likely. These are enormous differences and reflect the fact that lower-class whites were rarely accepted to the private institutions.”

    Their study also found that rich whites were also given preferential treatment over poor whites.

    “At the private institutions in their study whites from lower-class backgrounds incurred a huge admissions disadvantage not only in comparison to lower-class minority students, but compared to whites from middle-class and upper-middle-class backgrounds as well. The lower-class whites proved to be all-around losers. When equally matched for background factors (including SAT scores and high school GPAs), the better-off whites were more than three times as likely to be accepted as the poorest whites (.28 vs. .08 admissions probability).”

    destructure

    February 27, 2019 at 11:17 PM

    • The elite universities are clever. They have realized that giving preferences to “athletes” allows you to sneak affluent white kids in who would not get in on academics compared to Asians. On average whites are better athletes than Asians and smarter than NAMs, so the relatively smart, talented athlete is the sweet spot for an Ivy League school. The average SAT score for an athlete is something like 1400 at places like Yale and Harvard. Who benefits? Ice hockey players from private schools, lacrosse players, kids who are nationally ranked in crew, kids who have been playing club soccer, etc. Those are not sports that most NAMs can afford or would even consider. And even in basketball and football Ivy League schools tend to have a much higher percentage of white players than a competitive athletic program would consider.

      Peter Akuleyev

      February 28, 2019 at 4:40 AM

      • White CEOs are smart enough to understand that East Asians (and not Indians) make the best IT staff when it comes to hardcore engineering work, who are also enriching them immensely and will never challenge the status quo. IT is the most lucrative industry in the 21st century.

        Successful White people are successful because of social organization and most importantly, they know how to utilize the various racial groups to achieve their objectives in any realm that defines American politics, wealth and power.

        Does anybody disagree?

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        February 28, 2019 at 8:50 AM

      • Espanshade and Radford’s study (later published as a book titled No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal: Race and Class in Elite College Admission and Campus Life) addresses the affect athletics has on admission. Without athletics, asian admissions would go up, NAM admissions would go down and white admissions would stay about the same.

        destructure

        February 28, 2019 at 12:23 PM

      • “and white admissions would stay about the same.”

        But different, nerdier and less athletic and I daresay smarter, whites would be admitted.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM

      • Well, I don’t think it would change the outcome for most applicants. But to the extent it did, thoss admitted in lieu of the more athletic applicants probably would be nerdier. But I’m not sure they’d necessarily be “smarter”. Probably in terms of pure grades and test scores. But there’s something to be said for being able to balance academics and athletics (as well as other extracurriculars). Those who can deserve consideration even if their grades and test scores are slightly lower because they’ll probably be very successful. Someone who just sits around and studies 16 hours a day is lacking.

        destructure

        March 1, 2019 at 2:16 PM

    • Yes, I’m an authority to your post. Lower class Whites are pariahs, much worse than striving NAMs and Asians, in the eyes of Elite Whites with prestigious credentials, whose backgrounds are often in finance, legal and academia. They view lower class Whites as beneath them.

      I’m also an authority to the Hipster culture. People deride hipsters as being make believe poor. Urban hipsters are in fact lower middle class Whites or proles who can’t hack it in the professional world, either they lack the discipline to work at a grunt job and rise through the ranks, or they failed to land a high paying job in a SWPL field.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      February 28, 2019 at 8:54 AM

      • I call those sorts SWProles.

        Monsieur le Baron

        February 28, 2019 at 7:49 PM

      • and there’s a great deal of pretending to be “ironically” act low-class, when in reality, if it’s all you ever do, there’s nothing ironic about it.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        March 1, 2019 at 11:33 AM

  16. The key point to remember is that success in life is built on networking. You leverage other people’s brains and connections,and they in turn leverage yours.

    To successfully network, however, your status has to be equal or better to the people around you. You need to “match up”, so to speak, with the people around you in appearance, manners and background in order to be considered a viable candidate for networking. This is because everyone only has 24 hours in a day so you need to supply the relevant data to give to others.

    Naturally, the upper classes will fit this bill most readily.

    As far as meritocracy? Of course it does not exist. Do you think wealthy, powerful are going to select superior strangers over their own friends and family?

    map

    February 28, 2019 at 1:45 AM

    • Relatively it still exists much more than anywhere else in the world. In some other places you would need to network to purchase a bus ticket. So, it is not bad here in the US yet.

      My 2¢

      February 28, 2019 at 4:43 PM

  17. Those studies never neutralize genes, by looking at adopted children or twins. For example, now we know that all zip-code theories are false. In the Uk, we also know that if you take into account IQ and industriousness measured at 14, going to selective public or private school doesn’t do anything for your A-levels results and doesn’t enhance your chances to enter Oxbridge.

    Shared environnement has almost no effect on people. It’s the global society where people are, the country, that has an effect …. that’s very counter-intuitive indeed

    Bruno

    February 28, 2019 at 1:46 AM

  18. >high-paying self-actualizing jobs

    Following which, they can have one or no children. Who has time for that when you have a high powered career? And who can pay rent, day care, private school costs in NYC? You need at least half a million dollars a year between you and your wife. I mean, it’s not like you’re a programmer making $100k a year in Iowa or something.

    So, if you want to go extinct, get your kids in a yuppie silo tout suite.

    BaruchK

    February 28, 2019 at 7:00 AM

    • Even having your wife working during reproductive age will do it (extinction part).

      My 2¢

      March 1, 2019 at 12:03 AM

      • Even having your wife working during reproductive age will do it (extinction part).

        If not extinction, then a very high chance for divorce.

        E. Rekshun

        March 1, 2019 at 11:07 AM

  19. “…so they can work their way up to high-paying self-actualizing jobs.” I cannot think of any low-stress, self-actualizing jobs that pay well unless you are lucky enough to win the figurative lotto and make a lot from doing your art, or creating fun YouTube videos, or something like that. I am not sure if office job and self-actualization goes in the same sentence. Who ever dreams of working a deadline-driven 8-5 under florescent lights in some office/cube somewhere.

    Return of Shawn

    February 28, 2019 at 9:54 AM

    • Even if you are not working, you cannot escape a deadline-driven 8-5 under florescent lights. You need to finish breakfast, lunch and dinner before you go to bed. I have a job kind of like that. It starts with breakfast at 9:30, lunch 11:30 to 1:30, snack at 4:30 before going home at 4:45. Most of the time (during and after the lunch) I read news and blogs. It is self-actualizing and pays well over $200K. Extraordinarily high IQ and skills do help. My commute is one mile as the crow flies. My second wife does not work, she cooks from scratch. Life is good.

      My 2¢

      March 1, 2019 at 12:20 AM

      • My white-collar office job is very similar, including the short commute, but my salary is less than half.

        E. Rekshun

        March 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM

  20. Lion,

    I give you credit for talking about this issue years ago. You were right on the money.

    Great job.

    Maciano

    February 28, 2019 at 10:16 AM

  21. Being yourself, being comfortable in your own skin is the only way to go in life. Many don’t seem to get it. Halloween is only one day a year, you know. Just be yourself and happy. This is very simple.

    Yakov

    February 28, 2019 at 10:39 AM

    • “Halloween is only one day a year, you know”

      Comments like this are why Yakov is one of my favorite people here.

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      February 28, 2019 at 10:34 PM

      • Thanks, but no personal credit is due here. This is just a translation of a Yiddish saying ‘by him is Purim every day’ – meaning he is a lier or a hypocrite.

        Yakov

        March 1, 2019 at 9:02 AM

    • Contentment and happy attitude is also more nature than a choice (even if pills seem to help some people).

      Being happy and enjoying each moment of the day is really a wonderful gift !

      Bruno

      March 1, 2019 at 3:08 AM

      • I agree that it’s mostly generic.

        Yakov

        March 1, 2019 at 9:00 AM

  22. Mates, you realy make me laugh now. Check this out. I’m taking Portuguese at a top college and the class is 100% SWPL. On the first day of class I was the only student with the textbook. At this point I’m totally dominating this class and the distance between me and the effeminate SWPL crowd is only growing. I’m SWPL myself, but these creatures are not fit for survival the way they are right now.

    Portuguese is a beautiful language and in every class I repeat it and how unfortunate that because of the Treaty of Tordesillas more countries don’t speak this. Lol.

    Yakov

    February 28, 2019 at 11:02 AM

    • “I’m SWPL myself,”

      What?!!! When did you make that switch? Don’t sell out, Yakov. You can wear all the lavender yoga pants you want but you’ll never be one of them!

      destructure

      February 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM

      • Weren’t you in prison? And not the Federal country club kind.

        CamelCaseRob

        February 28, 2019 at 1:37 PM

      • Rikers is a jail. Many of my tastes are decidedly aristocratic, but I can switch gears, when necessary.

        Yakov

        February 28, 2019 at 3:23 PM

    • Well, what I mean is that I have white tastes and I’m nice, but that’s it. Not politically, obviously.

      Yakov

      February 28, 2019 at 12:40 PM

      • At least, you understand that NYC is the only place that matter$$$ in America. So why be a prole about it?

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        February 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM

      • JS, i understand no such thing. When will you get it that the way to live is to be yourself and be happy? Have you moved to Canada yet?

        Yakov

        February 28, 2019 at 1:45 PM

      • Some of us were worried you might backtrack on the “this poor country needs a military dictatorship to save itself” view, glad to hear it’s still intact. Though if the hot girls in your Portuguese class ever get wind of your partiality to that view, you’ll be in a lot of trouble.

        Armando

        February 28, 2019 at 1:50 PM

      • Haha you’re my hero yakov.

        Me, I dropped out of the LA rat race and moved to Montana in 1975. I was a blue collar musician, the pay was good and daytime was for having fun.

        But now even here people are SO driven…jesus, good thing I’m retired now.

        Mrs Stitch

        February 28, 2019 at 6:34 PM

      • It’s cool. That was just my cheeky way of saying you’re not shallow enough to be SWPL.

        destructure

        March 1, 2019 at 12:49 AM

      • Studying Portuguese is a SWPL activity that confers neither status nor money, given its uselessness outside of Brazil, which is unlike studying for HVAC or plumbing that can be lucrative.

        Yakov just wasted his money on a useless soft language/culture with an unremarkable history in the backdrop to Spain in the Iberian peninsula. Try finding a group of people who reads Portuguese literature or listens to Fado.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        March 4, 2019 at 7:48 AM

    • Teasing SWPL is one of the delights of the course. Bemoaning Portugal not having colonizing more territory to spread its beautiful language due to the Treaty of Tordesillas is something I do in every class. Someone asked if ‘esporte’ is feminine or masculine to which I replied, to the universal indignation, that it can only be masculine. They had to agree that historically it was so. I tease them mercilessly. Lol.

      Yakov

      February 28, 2019 at 3:33 PM

    • I tried learning Portuguese so that I could read the records of Christian missionaries to Japan 400 years ago. I kept getting things confused with Spanish!

      Kyo

      February 28, 2019 at 10:28 PM

      • Tell me about it! This is true for speaking, but reading should not be too confusing.

        Yakov

        February 28, 2019 at 11:26 PM

    • Muito bem, Yakov. Voce e eu podemos conversar in segredo aqui.

      (No. I didn’t run that through Google translate.)

      Daniel Heneghan

      March 1, 2019 at 1:00 AM

      • Will have to be ’em segredo’, though😉.

        Yakov

        March 1, 2019 at 8:52 AM

      • Não porque eu posso entender como brasileiro nativo.

        Bruno Brazil

        March 3, 2019 at 5:22 PM

    • Jakov, do you learn Portuguese with a porteuse or Brazilian accent ?

      The Portuguese accent very much sounds like russian (very bizarre for a Roman language forged far from Slavic peole unlike Romanian) and is really my favorite Latin language.

      Bruno

      March 1, 2019 at 7:27 AM

      • The teacher speaks carioca, so that’s what it is for now. I love Fado, so will probably switch to continental later.

        Yakov

        March 1, 2019 at 8:48 AM

  23. All I can say is duh, it is obvious that running in a certain social circle helps, but as always I don’t subscribe to the Lion’s gloomy view of the world. It is too narrow and comes from a keyhole perspective, there are so many other ways to advance oneself in life that I don’t understand this specific focus on the Ivy league path to happiness and richness.

    Hashed

    February 28, 2019 at 4:28 PM

    • I also do not understand his/her/their insistence. Maybe he/she/they gets paid by Ivy League. Who knows?

      My 2¢

      March 1, 2019 at 12:27 AM

      • Irrational and bizarre. You stick with your genes and DNA. A Jew sticks with Jews. Jews can do more for you then an Ivy degree. This is very simple.

        Yakov

        March 1, 2019 at 8:56 AM

  24. Lion, being in the top social circles always helps. It is nota news. Unfortunately:

    1. It is strictly positional.

    2. Being part of high level social circles is useless and you can even be worse off if you are not born in wealth.

    How can you be worse off? By picking a career that has high class and shitty wage. Like being a philosophy professor, for example. Most of philosophy PhD professors are adjuncting and, monetarily, they would be better off driving trucks or doing an electrician apprentice.

    People take high class jobs because they are already secure in their position in life. Someone without previous wealth in those careers will have a really tough life in an adjunct professor salary. If you are not born in wealth, you are better off high prole or beta accountant.

    Bruno Brazil

    March 1, 2019 at 5:52 AM

    • So true. Lion knows that because he has spoken a lot about journalist in elite publications with out of sight rich parents.

      Bruno

      March 1, 2019 at 7:30 AM

      • What is the sense of jobs like teacher, professor or journalist to someone not born in wealth?

        Bruno Brazil

        March 3, 2019 at 3:13 PM

    • Bruno,

      One of my professors used his sabbatical to get a job as a truck driver. Yes, it paid better than being a professor, and that’s why he did it.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      March 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM

  25. The few situations where i saw a prole person succeed breaking into those circles and going from rags to wealth are very hot and intelligent women that become coutesans.

    Bruno Brazil

    March 1, 2019 at 5:58 AM


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