Lion of the Blogosphere

Latest Morning Consult poll

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

Biden is way in the lead at 38%.

The anyone-but-Biden vote coalescing around Bernie who has 20%, the only candidate other than Biden in the double digits.

There doesn’t seem to be an anyone-but-an-old-white-man movement yet.

Only 7 candidates polling above 1%, but at this point it’s hard to see how any but the top 5 have a chance at winning this. The top five would be: Biden, Bernie, Pocahontas, the gay mayor, and Kamala Harris.

Andrew Yang has dropped to 1%. I guess Democrats aren’t ready for an Asian man. Democratic voters must be racist against Asians.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 29, 2019 at 10:55 AM

Posted in Politics

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  1. Lots will change over the next few months as Bidan collapses. He’s already in trouble in Iowa; NH will be dropping him soon as Dems get a look at his record.

    owentt

    May 29, 2019 at 11:14 AM

  2. why are you so eager to narrow down the race before the first debate?

    rapping boomer

    May 29, 2019 at 11:54 AM

  3. What about Booker? or is he encompassed in the gay mayor category?

    Stevo

    May 29, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    • No, he’s not. I can’t believe that he can go from 3% to being the winner.

      • Booker may be trying to become the leader of the impeachment army; maybe he’ll build a constituency that way if Biden and Bernie don’t go hardcore for impeachment.

        Gozo

        May 29, 2019 at 8:09 PM

      • > Booker may be trying to become the leader of the impeachment army;

        He’s got quite a lot of competition in that area, with Warren, Harris, Beto, and some Republican jackass I can’t think of right now. Leftists have no vision and nothing to offer, so all they have left is scrambling all over each other to show how much they hate Trump and Middle America.

        Fact Checker

        May 30, 2019 at 10:08 AM

  4. there was quite a bit of thrashing around between candidates in the GOP primary where almost everyone got a chance at a boomlet- I’d expect a similar trend will happen in the Dems.

    It may become an interesting dynamic of “everyone stop Biden”; on the other hand many of these people can be credibly running for the nomination and will probably use their presence on the stage to protect him from attacks. People like Castro and gay mayor are running for cabinet appointments, so lets see how craven they will be.

    Lion of the Turambar

    May 29, 2019 at 2:26 PM

    • Yes, remember when Jeb Bush was the horse to bet on? “Low Energy Jeb” got destroyed by Trump when the debates started. It is too early to tell with Dems for the same reasons.

      GrassMudHorse

      May 29, 2019 at 6:40 PM

      • The relevant Bidet comparison is Joe Lieberman, who has had early leads in the presidential primary process twice, I believe.

        bobbybobbob

        May 29, 2019 at 9:50 PM

      • This time in 2015, EVERY pundit and talking head had already declared GOP race over with Jeb! the winner. But one thing I’m sure of is that Biden isn’t winning the nomination. Anyway, anything can still happen (except Biden). George Clooney could come down the escalator this summer and take it all.

        Mike Street Station

        June 1, 2019 at 7:51 AM

  5. Bernie is the best hope for the Dems (Maybe for this country). I hope he doesn’t pull a Dem version of cucking out. This country needs a sane, but aggressive, socialist response to the military/wall-street/cuck axis. Bernie is the man to give it.

    Daniel Heneghan

    May 29, 2019 at 8:47 PM

    • Socialism is evil. Want to end wall street power? Stop saving in dollars. Stop contributing to your 401k. Stop passively investing your excess income in ETF’s and mutual funds. Your (our) support for the US financial markets keeps wall street in power.

      Andrew E.

      May 30, 2019 at 9:09 AM

  6. All the models predict that Trump is going to crush it in 2020. Of course, models are only good until they’re not. Elections are won with votes not models. So anything can happen. But I still think it’s Trump’s to lose.

    destructure

    May 29, 2019 at 9:50 PM

    • Since the Dems have no viable candidate, the only things that can stop Trump in 2020 are

      1. Massive social media censorship

      2. Massive voter fraud

      3. A recession – but that isn’t necessarily a death sentence the way some people think it is

      Fact Checker

      May 30, 2019 at 10:13 AM

    • I agree with you.

      These arguments are ridiculous at this stage of the game, but for what it’s worth (nothing), the only candidate that the Democrats have who isn’t batshit crazy is Joe Biden, and Biden is trash.

      It’ll be a disgusting awful horrible revolting campaign, we are going to eat up every bit of it!!

      Anyway, back to serious things, when Trump wins a second term, do you think he’s actually going to do anything? Because so far I haven’t seen much.

      Obama was fairly moderate in his first term. The true onslaught came in the second term, when he was a supposed lame duck. That’s when the true colors came out.

      gothamette

      May 31, 2019 at 9:49 AM

      • Trump doesn’t have the kind of power and support Obama did. Trump is still trying to get things done (as his Mexican tariff strategy shows) but even in a second term, it will still be one guy fighting Congress, the Courts, and his own administration, just like the first term.

        Mike Street Station

        June 1, 2019 at 7:54 AM

  7. Yang’s support collapsed when he came out in favor of Power Point. Alt-Right immediately dropped their support and without a loud online cheering faction he became nothing but an Asian guy running for the Democratic Primary, which, as you point out, is a road to nowhere.

    PerezHBD

    May 29, 2019 at 10:40 PM

    • What’s wrong with using PowerPoint?

      • Heavy Powerpoint usage is a strong indicator of a paper shuffling bureaucracy where nobody actually knows what they’re talking about. Several competent organizations have banned slides altogether. But more importantly, Yang was in all seriousness trying to argue that politicians should use it to present to the public. A faction of his supporters literally started chanting “Powerpoint”. It’s just such an out-to-lunch perspective it snapped some people interested in his other ideas out of it and back to reality.

        bobbybobbob

        May 30, 2019 at 12:22 AM

      • Lion, have you checked out Yang’s website? His platform includes:

        – 18 year term limit for Supreme Court Justices
        – making the NCAA pay athletes
        – subsidized marriage counseling
        – eliminating the penny

        And that’s just scratching the surface. He makes FDR and Barack Obama look like Ayn Rand and Grover Nordquist.

        https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

        njguy73

        May 30, 2019 at 9:36 AM

      • Eliminating the penny sounds like a smart thing to do.

        Also don’t think it’s fair making college athletes play for free.

        As far as the term limit for Supreme Court Justices, good look getting the Constitution changed.

      • It appears that Andrew Yang’s base are mainly proles from the Midwest, NAMs who like gimme dat, his fellow Asiatics, and mostly hipster-type White bois coming out from their parents’ basements.

        He will certainly lose. He has almost no support from SWPLs (Successful White People Liberals) and White women.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        May 30, 2019 at 11:14 AM

      • Using PowerPoint reminds people of Dilbert’s pointy-haired boss.

        njguy73

        May 30, 2019 at 2:57 PM

      • Lion, on my Android phone I sometimes have problems replying. The reply in this thread is really destructure above.

        With respect to PowerPoint, I find it absolutely LOL hilarious that Yang’s support among the altright collapsed because he came out in favor of something so innocuous.

        As if you don’t need more proof that the alternative right is made up of people who are completely batshit.

        I think Yang makes a lot of great points. he called his book “The War on normal people”, and he is truly on to something here. I just don’t think that he has the whatever it takes to see the true implications of his key insight.

        We live in a society that values transgenders more than normal people. That should tell you something.

        but I don’t agree with Yang that we’re going to have automated surgeons. And I’m still very skeptical about self-driving trucks.

        gothamette

        May 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM

  8. OT:

    Justice Department Settles Immigration-Related Discrimination Claim Against California County

    The Department of Justice today announced that it has reached a settlement agreement with Stanislaus County, California. The settlement resolves the Department of Justice’s investigation into whether the Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Department engaged in prohibited hiring practices in violation of the anti-discrimination provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

    The Department’s investigation concluded that the Sheriff’s Department improperly delayed rehiring a former deputy sheriff who was a lawful permanent resident (LPR) because he was not a U.S. citizen. The INA prohibits employers from discriminating in the hiring process based on citizenship status against certain categories of individuals, including recent LPRs, unless necessary to comply with a specific legal requirement. Because the affected individual was an LPR who had applied for and was eligible for naturalization, he met all applicable citizenship requirements under California law and should have been rehired.

    The investigation also concluded that Stanislaus County posted job advertisements for deputy probation officers, deputy sheriffs, trainees, and interns with language that unlawfully excluded applications from some eligible LPRs, in violation of the INA.

    Under the terms of the settlement agreement, Stanislaus County will pay $7,000 in civil penalties, engage in training its human resources staff on the anti-discrimination provision of the INA, and review and revise its job advertisements and questionnaires to ensure compliance with the anti-discrimination provision of the INA. The settlement agreement also acknowledges that, after receiving notice of the investigation, the Sheriff’s Department rehired the affected individual with back pay for lost wages.

    map

    May 30, 2019 at 2:06 AM

  9. Creepy Joe Returns – Calls 10-Year Old Girl ‘Good Looking,’ Then Puts His Hands on Her

    MEH 0910

    May 30, 2019 at 4:47 PM

  10. The awareness of a politically-interested yet not zealously-obsessed opposition voter (me) might be a good proxy for democrat electability.

    I read and think about politics, but I try to filter out what I determine to be the never ending and irrelevant minutia. An attempt to focus on the big picture cuts down on the outright propaganda that I consume.

    I am more effective in that effort on the liberal side than I am the conservative side, as an unavoidable side effect of my political sympathies.

    My less discerning and more active media consumption of Right Wing politics may give me a skewed perception of the popular Right (though I do believe them to be more engaged than the popular Left on the whole – a belief that itself may be evidence of my bias), but I believe that my passivity in regard to Leftist politics may act as a control for bias that may lead to more accurate assumptions about the popular Left.

    My held information about the Left may roughly correlate to the Leftist political awareness of the average low-prole liberal voter who doesn’t actively seek to consume political media and yet unavoidably consumes big picture information that is broadcasted everywhere over long periods of time.

    To wit:

    I know who Biden, Sanders, and Pocahontas are. This means that they are theoretically electable.

    Kamala Harris’s name is known to me because it has come up in google news feed articles that I have never read. If I had to identify her based on vague memory of her features, I would identify the first mulatto with long dense looking hair that I saw who was about 20 lbs overweight. I only know her ideologically as a probable neo-communist (which is how I process all modern liberals). Which is good enough for the big picture. I have a vague notion of where she works out of but in truth have no precise idea what her job is let alone her specific political positions. Going on vaguely perceived information in my periphery, my best guess is that she is a Rep out of California. Also, I think that she used to serve in the armed forces for a number of years. However, given my attention span and interest that could as easily be wrong as be correct. Verdict: not electable.

    Some information about a gay neo-communist politician came through on the google news feed. He was talking shit (promoting irrelevant and unoriginal agitprop). I remember him to be skinny. He’s a mayor? If you say so. If someone told me he was out of Maine or Houston, I would take their word for it. I have no idea. Verdict: not electable.

    I would have a better chance of identifying Andrew Yang than the other two, assuming that you didn’t mix another Asian that looked anything remotely like him in with the lineup. That alone should tell you how electable that he is. The only reason that I know more, which still is very little (he wants to give people $1k per month to stop being politically agitated, or something of the sort) is because there was some obvious institutionally-produced propaganda floating around stating that he was the new love affair for the Alt Right (a hilarious attempt at wish fulfillment by whomever was pushing it). Statements that unavoidably creeped into ostensibly right-wing sympathetic media that I less judiciously consume (again, to a relative degree). So, there is some bias at work in terms of my increased awareness of Yang. Verdict: not electable.

    My perceptions of the well-known candidates:

    Biden: a joke that few take seriously. He has no leadership projection, I can’t remember a single thing that he’s ever said, and he was recently attacked by the grassroots of his own party. He’s as charismatic as grey, cold oatmeal. Verdict: if this is Trump’s competition, Trump will enjoy two terms with 100% certainty.

    Pocahontas: she withered under Trump’s attacks in the last election and would be similarly skewered by him in a new one. Her political identity is mostly as an anti-Trump personality rather than rooted in positive politics. When she does speak about what she will do, it comes off being trendy and taken from the same script that the rest are reading from. She will not have near the momentum and likeability necessary to become the first woman president (they need to source a real life Robin Wright from a Nordic breeding ground like Minnesota for that to happen). The first woman president will be a young, strong, pretty and Very White centrist that projects a strong sense of original purpose. Not this aged politician who can only repeat trending Marxist social dogma to keep her head above water. Though, in her prime and with a stronger personality, she may have been electable.

    Sanders: a threat in spite of the polling that I don’t trust and that no one should. He will have momentum from several wellsprings: his disenfranchisement in the last election, the attempted and partially successful disenfranchisement of Trump during his first term, all of the free media support that went and continues with that effort, and his continued popularity with the Far Left. What works against him: his age, his Jewish identity, and he legitimately scares (the ever decreasing) centrist liberals.

    I still think that Trump would win in 2020 against Sanders, but I certainly do not trust polling that could as easily work to ‘surprise’ the electorate with Sanders realized popularity in contrast with what those polls are stating now.

    Archie

    May 31, 2019 at 8:57 AM


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