Lion of the Blogosphere

It pays to have famous parents

In order to have the opportunity to present your photos, you need the connections from having rich and famous parents.

If only conservatives could boycott all of the Hollywood actors who say crap like that about Trump.

He must hate Trump’s tax cut. You see, rich people like Rob Reiner (net worth $60 million) WANT their taxes raised. Trump should give them what they want.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

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  1. Reiner’s like a lot of people. Can’t imagine far enough into the past when Sedona was perhaps as beautiful but far less comfortable nor far enough into the future to imagine it as an hell hole. He thinks things are as they are by hidden magic forces.

    WW2 was an horror show but the returning vet population kept us grounded for years in a way I only now appreciate. In the 80s I watched on TV a special about D Day with a neighbor family and the stoic rock of the earth father of that family I’d known since childhood. This man was at Normandy but never uttered a word about it. Midway through, after saying nothing, he broke down in sobs. His son, my friend, later told he’d never seen his father she’d a tear. What, I wonder, was he recalling?

    We are worse for having a population who has lived so soft.

    Curle

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Every generation has been softer than the one before it for the last 200 years. That’s what happens when you have technological progress and economic growth. What’s the answer? Stop progress?

      It’s a serious question. We may be headed for the future in Wall-E where humanity are lazy fat asses being fed sustenance and entertainment all day and incapable of doing anything.

      Peter Akuleyev

      June 16, 2019 at EDT am

      • “What’s the answer?”

        Soft is a choice. You don’t have to choose it. You could choose asceticism and challenging extracurriculars instead.

        destructure

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • It is tough, because we need to toughen up and get serious about immigration from the Third World.

        There are billions of Africans dying to get where we are.

        East Asia is in a better position overall, but their rock bottom TFRs are something they will need to negotiate among themselves while the African waves rock along their shores, eager to find a weak crevess.

        It could be that we’re witnessing another Out of Africa situation, in which the conditions the Eurasians have established for themselves are no longer conducive to their prosperity or even survival. Meanwhile, Africans are better suited to take advantage of such conditions.

        Sid

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • Human beings have no answer to this conundrum, but good old Mother Nature does.

        every so often she sends a killing bug through the herd and culls it. Plus, there are plenty of other natural disasters that could do the trick.

        But no, you’re right, no one ever chose hardship over ease. man’s job is to get around the obstacles that nature puts in front of him.

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • “Soft is a choice. You don’t have to choose it. You could choose asceticism and challenging extracurriculars instead”.

        To a degree, yes. But few people in modern society are going to give up the option of relying on Big brother when push comes to shove. Do you take meds? Does your wife? Does anyone in your family? Do you use electricity? Running water?

        All of these things weren’t even options a hundred years ago. Everything in life nowadays has a softening effect. We don’t even have to open doors anymore! Even taking a crap was more difficult a hundred years ago. You had to squat. Which is probably better for the body but that’s another story.

        My point is that modern Life does away with virtually every necessary obstacle. anything that you undertook to do a hundred years ago involved elaborate preparations and steps which no longer exists. We’re not going away from this unless we are forced to.

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • I’m certainly not going to forego electricity and indoor plumbing or start washing my clothes by hand. But I don’t see myself ever going soft. People talk about things “building character” and it’s true. When you’re challenged you grow. So do things to challenge yourself whether that be working out or taking on mentally and physically demanding projects. You don’t have to live like the unabomber to not be soft. But you do have to challenge yourself. I think that’s one of the reasons these endurance races became popular.

        destructure

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

      • I’m certainly not going to give up electricity and indoor plumbing or start washing my clothes by hand. But what is it about technology and modern conveniences that makes one soft? I’d say it’s being able to avoid hard physical labor and discomfort that requires perseverance. As well as all the thought, planning and organization that used to be required just to get through life. For example, people don’t even have to use maps any more. Just punch the address into a GPS navigator. I’m sure you’re familiar with studies showing that such things are shrinking people’s brains.

        I’m all about making things simple, efficient and cost effective. That’s what technology is about. But those should be balanced with extracurriculars that are mentally and physically challenging. Things that require hard work and determination. And you don’t have to live like the Unabomber to do that. I figure that’s one of the reasons endurance sports likes marathons and triathlons are dominated by people making 6 figures. They’re character driven activities that require hard work and determination.

        I’m certainly not recommending everyone start running marathons. I don’t even think that’s healthy. But there are plenty of other things one could do. And, yes, I do believe in a certain amount of asceticism.

        destructure

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

      • I didn’t realize the first comment posted.

        destructure

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

    • Similar experience w/ my grandfather, who was in the Navy in both WW2 and Korea. Never saw him cry until one day at lunch about a year before he died while he was talking about being a radioman in the Atlantic. Never found the balls to ask him why he was crying. Regret now that I’ll never hear the whole story.

      hdo

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • for the record my father and my grandfather never heard a shot heard in anger and me and my brother and my nephew are all eligible to be in the VFW

      I like the magazines that is why I signed up I doubt my brother and my nephew signed up

      that being said my uncle could not eat steak from 1943 to about 1980 because it reminded him of the smell of burned dead or almost dead pilots that he pulled from planes in 1944, it took him about three decades to be able to enjoy a nice grilled steak

      life is complicated

      I visit arlington cemetery once a year don’t tell people there that this generation is soft

      howitzer Daniel

      June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  2. Not just rich and famous parents but a rich and famous grandparent. Rob’s dad, Carl Reiner, is both a famous celebrity himself and is still poking around at age 97.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

  3. He’s got a lot of confidence in Americans.

    Marty

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

  4. What was the last film Rob Reiner directed that was a critical or commercial smash?

    The American President? A Few Good Men? Those are movies from a quarter-century ago.

    Oswald Spengler

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

  5. “In order to have the opportunity to present your photos, you need the connections from having rich and famous parents.”

    Grandparents, really. Was Gregory Clark right or what?!?

    Jokah Macpherson

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

  6. Poor baby he has to put up with a president he doesn’t like.

    Jokah Macpherson

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

    • You’d think these whiny SWPL pukes were living through the Black Death and watching their family die from plague one by one.

      Oswald Spengler

      June 16, 2019 at EDT am

  7. He makes me want to boycott Spinal Tap and only watch The Young Ones’ similar take on British rock. Meathead and Spinal Tap, Reiner how could you go so wrong?!

    Archie

    June 15, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Once a Meathead, always a Meathead.

      Steve

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • I have to admit, when I contemplate people like Rob Reiner, I can’t help but think of Yakov’s tanks in the streets and death squads.

      Hermes

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Yakov left Russia long time ago so his memory of the country (tanks and death squads) has faded. I am making this post from Mother Russia (Moscow) right now (lion can verify the ip that I’m not lying) and it looks just like any other Western Europe city.
        After touring Moscow in 2 days I couldn’t tell Barcelona apart from Moscow.

        Days of bread lines and comrades are all gone. Shake Shack, KFC, Tiffany are all here.

        Hola Yakov!! I’m loving blinis and Borcht.

        Mpt

        June 17, 2019 at EDT pm

  8. That is the Platonic insufferable limousine liberal comment.

    A Dilettante

    June 16, 2019 at EDT am

  9. Actually Reiner’s tax may have gone up with the Trump tax reforms since he lost the SALT deductions. Would be interesting to look on a state by state basis what the impact of the reforms were on net taxes. My guess is rich Texans won big but those in NY or CA not so much.

    Larry, San Francisco

    June 16, 2019 at EDT am

  10. I have a theory that the rich have work overtime on virtue signaling, as a way to deflect prole envy.

    Except he read his audience wrong – what an arrogant man. Does he not realize how many people voted for Trump?

    I think that in this case, his intended audience is other rich people, not proles. Apparently he doesn’t care if he offends proles. .

    Frau Katze

    June 16, 2019 at EDT am

    • “I think that in this case, his intended audience is other rich people, not proles. Apparently he doesn’t care if he offends proles.”

      Virtue signalling used to be called “preaching to the choir.”

      An apt turn of phrase, since SJW-ism is religion for the irreligious.

      Oswald Spengler

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • I’m sure he realizes perfectly well that only 63 million Americans, out of almost 300 milion Americans over 18 (not counting illegals), voted for Trump. And a large percentage of that 63 million are the type of people who Hollywood doesn’t care about – when you subtract the elderly (too old to see movies), evangelicals (who don’t go on principle), and white businessmen (who don’t have time), who’s left? Reiner may be a dick but he’s not actually stupid, at least not from a pure mercantilist point of view. He knows where his income comes from, and it’s not Trump supporters.

      Peter Akuleyev

      June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • Other than these so-called tentpole movies, which are all superhero series, there are no mass-market movies anymore. they are all pretty much niche products. The idea of a crocodile Dundee making hundreds of millions of dollars in the United States is now unthinkable. But crocodile Dundee was a flash in the pan.

        however, the tent pole movies are trending towards wokeness. I wonder what the crash and burn of Dark Phoenix will do to that pattern. Captain marvel and the last Star wars flick nibbled around the edges of wokeness. Captain marvel did brilliantly. The last Star trek movie underperformed. Dark Phoenix was a bomb.

        We shall see.

        gothamette

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

      • Was La La Land mass market?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

      • No.

        gothamette

        June 19, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Oops. Just checked and yup, $446 million certainly qualifies as mass market.

        gothamette

        June 19, 2019 at EDT pm

  11. Is it just me, or is the concept/word accelerationism becoming more frequent?

    Is it just me, or has the pace of change become so unbelievably dizzying that you can’t keep up?

    Gay pride is everywhere in NYC. Every major company has a rainbow flag. Gay pride is being celebrated on stage in a variety of productions, with performers coming out afterwards and waving the rainbow flag. I am not kidding.

    But maybe I’m seeing things in an exaggerated way, because I’m in NYC. What do other people think?

    Apart from gay pride, the move to get around the Electoral college is picking up steam. Once the Electoral college is done away with, the country will descend into civil War. Or perhaps even before it. Because you can’t do away with the Electoral college without a massive constitutional fight. Otherwise known as a constitutional crisis.

    gothamette

    June 16, 2019 at EDT am

    • “National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.”

      Google it.

      It’s pure and simple tyranny. And it’s unconstitutional.

      gothamette

      June 16, 2019 at EDT am

      • It’s not unconstitutional. But it is retarded. It’s a bunch of leftists throwing a tantrum because their candidate lost. The only states who’ve signed up are those that went for Hillary. The only way it could hurt us is if red states signed up. And that ain’t gonna happen.

        destructure

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • It might very well violate the compact clause of the Constitution.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_3:_Compact_Clause

        and why are you so sure they couldn’t get the required 270 electoral votes?

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • In addition to that, some of them are flirting with the idea of eliminating the Senate as well. The popular election of Senators is no longer enough; it’s just not fair that Wyoming gets the same representation as California.

        It’s like I’ve said before: “democracy” used to be a bad word to liberals. Back in the nineties, when conservatives would complain about something being enacted that went against the majority’s desires, liberals were quick to remind us “we don’t have a democracy, we have a constitutional republic,” and that the Founding Fathers in their infinite wisdom wisely chose this system so that the 51% couldn’t vote to oppress the 49%, or “democracy isn’t two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner,” etc. But now that the shoe’s on the other foot, and thanks to demographic change and media propaganda, some of their ideas now have majority support, suddenly they love “democracy” and it’s a travesty that we don’t have “democracy,” and the Founding Fathers who set things up this way don’t deserve any special respect and their ideas are obsolete.

        Hermes

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • “n addition to that, some of them are flirting with the idea of eliminating the Senate as well. The popular election of Senators is no longer enough; it’s just not fair that Wyoming gets the same representation as California.”

        Well, yeah. If you get rid of the EC then the whole idea of federalism is kaput, plus the idea that there should be a counterbalance to the sheer weight of demography, which the Senate embodies. It’s perfectly logical that after junking the EC we’d get rid of the Senate for both reasons.

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT pm

      • “That’s a real shame because abolishing the U.S. Senate, far from being insane, would be very good idea. Indeed, Chatterbox much prefers it to many other policies Nader is advocating this election season (such as gutting the World Trade Organization). As George Will points out in today’s column, it’s totally inconsistent to favor abolishing the Electoral College–as so many respectable people sensibly do when they consider the troubling prospect that the next president may fail to win the popular vote–without also favoring abolishing the Senate. Here’s Will’s argument:

        Delaware, the least populous state in 1789, understandably was the first to ratify the Constitution with its equal representation of states in the Senate: Virginia, the most populous, had 11 times more voters. Today Wyoming’s senators’ votes can cancel those of California’s senators, who represent 69 times more people. If that offends you, so does America’s constitutional federalism.

        Go to the head of the class, George! Where Will goes wrong is in thinking this clinches the argument for keeping both the Electoral College and the Senate. In fact, it reinforces Chatterbox’s conviction that we should get rid of both. ”

        https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2000/11/abolish-the-senate.html

        Article was written in 2000 and these ideas have been kicking around since 1789, but they’ve gained traction in the last few years.

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT pm

    • It’s getting pretty bad here in Nevada as well. I blame Trump: he has both led to a massive liberal backlash which on this issue he isn’t even rhetorically fighting. Here’s Trump’s ICE:

      Are we tired of winning or what?

      Tanturn

      June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • That’s a good way to put it. The election of trump has led to a massive liberal backlash, and he really hasn’t done anything substantive.

        ICE…

        back to accelerationism. The concept of a transgender woman would have been unthinkable only 10 years ago. So what do you think is in store 10 years from now?

        gothamette

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

    • You may know that Shake Shack has expanded out of New York. I’d always wanted to try it when visiting NY, but never got the chance because the lines were too long. So I was happy to see they recently opened one in my area. I had last Wednesday afternoon off, so after leaving work, I decided to stop there for lunch. Imagine my surprise when I saw the prominently displayed banner advertising their “Pride shake” for pride month. Because nothing goes with a burger and fries like a generous serving of good, old-fashioned homosexuality. The thought of not patronizing them ever so briefly crossed my mind, but as someone, maybe even you, commented around here not too long ago, you can’t boycott this stuff anymore. You’d have to boycott the entire world.

      Hermes

      June 17, 2019 at EDT pm

      • If I didn’t say that it sounds like something I would have said.

        Don’t come to New York. It’s one big f****** rainbow flag. I did not see one sign for Father’s day. But I saw tons and tons of rainbow flags and when I say rainbow flag I don’t need some little inconspicuous thing made in China, I mean giant light displays, product displays, and banners.

        it never occurred to me before, but pride month comes in the same month as Father’s day. I think the scum who created this stupid pride month did it for that very reason. They want to overwhelm the whole idea of being a man and a father.

        gothamette

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am

  12. I disliked Obama greatly, but that feeling did not consume my every waking moment, as it seems to with lefties like Reiner. Maybe the problem for people like him is that they’ve become so accustomed to having their way politically and culturally, that when they encounter a setback – however minor it may be – they go apeshit.

    In terms of the big picture, what I think is going on is that all this anger and hysteria that is boiling over on the left is actually being orchestrated along with the media to render illegitimate ANY Republican who gets elected president. Expect the agitation for abolition of the electoral college to intensify, along with calls for compulsory voting and extending the franchise to non-citizens. We might at some point even see some (out on the kook fringe, for now) arguing that voting by itself is not sufficient to determine the will of the people, and that sampling should be added to the process.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • “Maybe the problem for people like [Reiner] is that they’ve become so accustomed to having their way politically and culturally, that when they encounter a setback – however minor it may be – they go apeshit.”

      Yes, I think that’s exactly it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • So accustomed to having their way.

      Well sure, that’s part of it, but I think it goes deeper than that. HatingAmerica is their religion. Trump stands for making America great again, so he is the devil.

      They hated Reagan too But they were constrained by certain norms back in those days. And they were not as big as they are now..

      Anybody who is pro-american is fundamentally evil to them. I find these people so depressing that I have ignored them up until now, but I will find examples. And they are not isolated examples. A solid block of hatred for the very existence of the United States of America has formed on the left. Trump is simply the current symbol for them, but the real target is the United States.

      gothamette

      June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  13. You see, rich people like Rob Reiner (net worth $60 million) WANT their taxes raised. Trump should give them what they want.

    Trump won’t because he can’t without raising his own taxes.

    Reiner would be willing to raise taxes on himself because he, unlike Trump, values his class interests over his raw financial interests.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

    • So the division between the very wealthy plutocrats who back President Trump (like Adelson, Jack Welch and, well, President Trump) and those like Reiner who hate Trump is a difference in value rankings. Progressive plutocrats value their class status over their wealth more than their economic interests whereas prolish, pro-Trump, plutocrats value their financial bottom line above all else.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      June 16, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Trump did raise Reiners taxes.

        Reiner is paying more in state and local now that the SALT deductions were reduced.

        map

        June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  14. OT: I hear, and this is second hand so take with a grain of salt, that there’s some internal drama over at the Daily Stormer. Some of the Anglin’s unnamed ghostwriters want to break away and form a new website with minimal racism and antisemitism, with its main focus on thot bashing. I have noticed the articles on thots are less likely to contain the obligatory “and this is really the Jews’ fault.” Supposedly it’s motivated by the Stormer’s financial troubles and the recent implosion of Roosh, which they see as an opportunity to grab market share. It would be a very smart move: Blacks aren’t that big of a problem outside of the South and certain urban areas, and most people’s interactions with Jews are neutral to positive. But many men have had negative interactions with thots, a problem which cuts across the lines of class and geography.

    Tanturn

    June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  15. At the same time, children of rich parents have better genes. They have generally higher IQ and are more industrious. There have been so many studies now that show how litter shared environment account for success despite the evidence feeling.

    For example, studied have shown that between the last 100 taken at Stuyvensant and the first 100 non taken, there is absolutely no difference in average SAT score and in elite university admission. The same results have been found for many objective procedures based on intelligence with a cut-off score.

    In the UK despite Public school costing on average 750K dollars for 4/5 years education (13 to 18), if you measure IQ and Industriouness at 13, the positive effect on GCSE scores, A-Lelvels and admission to Oxford/Cambridge is only +2% compared to comprehensive schools (wich are the non selective high schools). And as for grammar schools, the selective government schools, the effect is -3%. Putting many bright children together with normal government environment is slightly bad for the kids.

    For example, you could said David Denioff – one of the game 2 of thrones screen writer is the son of Stephen Friedman, chairman of Goldman Sachs, and chairman of the Federal Reserve of NY – and a jew. But the intelligence – even if its based on someone else novel – he has put in his work is really something (at so many levels). So it would be too easy to just say, he is here because of its dad. Or maybe its true, but it is at least at 50% because its dad genes. And you dont’ see adopted children performing so well in general.

    Bruno

    June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  16. OT, lion you might like the series ‘dark.’ Supernatural time travel theme + high school drama/ teenage romance. I’m watching in the original german with english subtitles.

    toomanymice

    June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  17. There’s the lower order, prole fame that comes from entertainment and professional sports, and the high order fame that comes from old money (TOOS) and the academic world. The business and political world is somewhat in the middle.

    Quite frankly, most Americans only pay attention to things that gives them immediate pleasure, and their concern for fame is from the lower order realm.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    June 17, 2019 at EDT am

  18. “If only conservatives could boycott all of the Hollywood actors who say crap like that about Trump.”

    It’s hard to boycott all this stuff. Do that and you’re pretty much boycotting every movie. Personally I’m okay with that because the Hollywood movies coming out now are creatively bankrupt. The best stuff now is high end TV Shows like Game of Thrones.

    This year I’m vacationing in central Florida for a week. It’s a real struggle to avoid letting the mouse get a dime. My plan is to fill the vacation with so many other things that no one is tempted to go to Disney. I do plan to visit Universal Studios once just to see Megatron, but that’s it for theme parks.

    The main reason for going to Florida is to swim with the manatees. So keeping money out of the mouse’s pockets shouldn’t be impossible, but like I said, it takes real effort and planning to replace things which fund anti-American extremism with things that don’t. I mean we’re all still giving money to the Saudis so that we can use fossil fuels for travel right?

    MoreSigmasThanYou

    June 17, 2019 at EDT am

    • “It’s hard to boycott all this stuff. Do that and you’re pretty much boycotting every movie.”

      I totally agree with you. Conservative entertainment media, when it even exists, sucks.

      And of course, I too rarely watch movies anymore with all the good TV that’s available, but TV is controlled by the same liberals. Most current TV shows require you to ingest massive “LGBTQ” propaganda.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 17, 2019 at EDT am

      • I haven’t watched a network TV show since the Big Bang Theory went bad, and that was like seven years ago?

        I watch very few movies. I think the last one was Wonder woman. I think I’m thinking of boycotting the next one because gal Gadot has turned out to be a typical Hollywood feminist POS.

        I’m pretty much down to baseball and classical music. Even ballet has become ruined by political correctness. I expect classical music will follow. Since I’m a Mets fan I don’t expect much from baseball.

        I guess my next move will be to move to Utah.

        gothamette

        June 18, 2019 at EDT am


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