Lion of the Blogosphere

Guido researchers have been reading my blog

Here’s the proof.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 6, 2019 at 9:32 PM

Posted in Books

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  1. The first book in the bibliography you are in has a great title, Italian Americans: Into the Twilight of Ethnicity. It came out in 1985, which is a good year for a book about that. Only 10 or 15 years after Italians were fully accepted as Americans, as indicated by the Godfather movies.

    North Sea Climate

    July 6, 2019 at 10:41 PM

  2. Thats legitimately…pretty awesome!

    GondwanaMan

    July 6, 2019 at 10:44 PM

  3. Wow!

    Frau Katze

    July 7, 2019 at 12:18 AM

  4. At least you can finally say you made a difference.

    Joe

    July 7, 2019 at 1:03 AM

  5. The fool that wrote the article actually goes all SJW on ‘structural barriers’ to Guidos entering higher ed. Sociology: the disaster that keeps on giving.

    Curle

    July 7, 2019 at 1:40 AM

    • “Structural barriers” to NAM’s entering higher ed is SJW bullshit because they get preferential treatment. “Structural barriers” to poor whites entering higher ed is neither SJW nor bullshit because the preferential treatment NAM’s get is at their expense. Studies have shown that poor blacks are 6 times more likely to be accepted than poor whites with similar qualifications. Moreover, studies show that wealthy whites are also 3 times more likely to be accepted than poor whites with similar qualifications. So not only do whites suffer racial discrimination but the affirmative action burden is also transferred from wealthy whites to poor whites. Regional discrimination plays a big role in this. But I don’t doubt that “quidos” are also singled out for discrimination. That was a surprise to me until I started reading this blog. There were quite a few Italians where I grew up and no one I knew ever had a problem with them.

      destructure

      July 7, 2019 at 8:45 AM

      • “Studies have shown that poor blacks are 6 times more likely to be accepted than poor whites with similar qualifications”

        I don’t doubt this, but in my opinion neither group should be in college. Both groups should be learning trades.

        What I would like to know is, are poor whites with decent qualifications being shut out of higher education? Are there any studies that indicate this?

        gothamette

        July 7, 2019 at 12:31 PM

      • I’ll never forget an exchange I once witnessed on a BART train between two black guys who apparently hadn’t seen each other in a while. One guy told the other he was attending U.C. Berkeley, and the second guy broke into a big smile, nodded his head, and said, “Ethnic Studies?,” as in, of course you’re not studying STEM, religion, Econ or history. Since, as Nixon said, you can’t talk to blacks, we’ll never be able to do the sensible thing and give the campus slots to poor whites who might want to study a real subject, and just issue a UCB/Princeton ethnic studies degree to all blacks at age 18.

        Marty

        July 7, 2019 at 1:10 PM

      • I don’t think the author meant it in the way you do. Rather was using the tried and true minoritism route; i.e., there’s some form of evil oppressive white majority out there but Guidos aren’t part of it. Not totally or not always. It’s situational.

        Hard to imagine that in the 60s Appalachians were oppressed by poverty, at least according to RFK, now they are the equivalent of Nazis.

        Curle

        July 7, 2019 at 2:44 PM

      • “but in my opinion neither group should be in college. Both groups should be learning trades.”

        Even if their IQ is over 150??? Don’t assume a perfect correlation between family income and intelligence. Statistics say a lot about groups but nothing about individuals.

        “What I would like to know is, are poor whites with decent qualifications being shut out of higher education? Are there any studies that indicate this?”

        Shut out of higher education? No. Shut out of highly selective universities? Yes. Most of the financial aid is reserved for NAMs — even high income NAMs who certainly don’t need it. See, it’s a bidding war to make their diversity numbers look “good”. So they throw money at them. But they know poor whites can’t afford highly selective universities without financial aid. And poor whites do nothing for their diversity numbers. Even worse, it makes them look bad if a low percentage of those accepted don’t attend. Which they can’t without financial aid. So they reject similarly qualified poor whites at a much higher rate than every other demographic. Of course, I strongly suspect there’s quite a bit of regional and class prejudice involved as well.

        This is all discussed in depth in the study by Espenshade & Radford.

        destructure

        July 7, 2019 at 7:52 PM

      • My (thoroughly conservative) father was always certain that we were discriminated against in college admissions and hiring by WASPs and the like due to our uncommon, difficult-to-pronounce surname that marked us as “white ethnics”. I’ve never been sure how true this is (particularly after a man named Zbigniew Brzezinski was allowed in the corridors of power), but it was certainly a tribal instinct, not a leftist instinct, that caused him to think this way.

        Wency

        July 8, 2019 at 10:13 AM

    • As a group, Southern Italian Americans are still stuck in the rut, not being able to ascend to the levels of WASP elitism that have been achieved by the Scot-Irish, the Irish, the Germans, the Jews, the Greeks, the Asians, Near Easterners, and now Hispanics. All because of IAs as a group’s hatred of the idea of “virtue signaling” and “global community”. Their Republican values are also somewhat of the low brow, extremist variety. I have yet to encounter an IA who is an intellectual libertarian. Poor IAs are stuck with black americans, many of whom they dislike and have gotten into bloody conflicts over a narrow mindedness shared by both groups.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 7, 2019 at 7:30 PM

      • I don’t really follow your point. Didn’t IA’s (at least the southies) fail to ascend to WASP social levels well before virtue-signaling became essential to economic mobility, I.e., at least by 1980?

        You know me

        July 7, 2019 at 11:55 PM

      • “I have yet to encounter an IA who is an intellectual libertarian”

        I guess then “Maryk” would have to be classified as an intellectual social conservative,although whether you consider me lowbrow and extremist I don’t know. But you’re right about IAs detesting virtue signaling. And I can tell you this: “global community” is a contradiction in terms. What makes a “community” valuable as an entity is precisely the fact that it includes some people and excludes others.

        But what do I know? I’m only a g-loaded guidette.

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        July 8, 2019 at 12:09 AM

      • Very few IAs have any interest in ascending to the levels of WASP elitism. IAs are generally low-ambition people. And truthfully, there is nothing wrong with being this way.

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        July 8, 2019 at 12:22 AM

      • “I don’t really follow your point. Didn’t IA’s (at least the southies) fail to ascend to WASP social levels well before virtue-signaling became essential to economic mobility, I.e., at least by 1980?”

        The measuring stick of acculturation used before virtue signaling and globalism among the educated and elite was a college education, and IAs were one of the ethnic groups that didn’t really embrace higher education. Those IAs who did go to college and eventually ascended into the ranks of the educated, lamented that there was a lack of representation of IAs in the Ivy Leagues and Academia.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2019 at 9:04 AM

      • “Very few IAs have any interest in ascending to the levels of WASP elitism. IAs are generally low-ambition people. And truthfully, there is nothing wrong with being this way”

        Hence, their reactionary, right wing politics that come across as more extreme than that of Anglo Whites in the realm of progressive politics, with a similar narrative of black americans of always being on the defensive, instead of being pro-active. Although, one can make a case that black americans are more “open minded” than IAs. At least, there are liberal polices set forth for blacks to allow them to be “open minded”. IAs never had this environment from a cultural and sociological standpoint.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2019 at 9:15 AM

      • MaryK: Many IAs who are of the prolier type dislike the “global community” and have this narrow view that America is always right in world politics and everyone else are our enemies and should be viewed as suspect.

        The lack of virtue signaling among IAs is the sole reason as to why they have been left in the dust in our progressive politics that takes on a global meaning, and being very successful means, you embrace the entire world.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2019 at 9:25 AM

  6. I think I can actually match that, if not top it. Years ago I wrote on my blog a review of Robert Heinlein’s, “For Us, The Living.

    https://mikestreetstation.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/for-us-who-didnt-build-that/

    This was one of Heinlein’s earlier works that was not published until after his death. Later on, someone created a Wikipedia entry on the book and listed my post as a reference on the review.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Us,_The_Living:_A_Comedy_of_Customs

    So I’m a Wikipedia reference.

    Mike Street Station

    July 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM

    • I think you’re review says “Capitalism is great and socialism sucks because… damn it, everyone know that capitalism is way way better than socialism!”

      Neither capitalism nor socialism, by itself, solves the problem of low-IQ low-future-time-orientation segments of the population.

      • Err…I’m pretty sure I didn’t say that. And I was talking about a fairly specific socialist theory: Social Credit. I think the number of Social Credit political parties that dominate world politics speak for themselves.

        Mike Street Station

        July 7, 2019 at 12:31 PM

      • The answer is that everyone has to have a job unless they are not on the government teat. Low IQ and marginally productive workers are given a job they can do and are picked up and taken to work and then taken back home.

        CamelCaseRob

        July 7, 2019 at 6:16 PM

      • @Mike Street For many years (ending in 1980s) there was political party in BC called Social Credit. In fact they were in power for ages. They were considered right wing. I don’t know where the name from. It’s an odd name.

        Frau Katze

        July 8, 2019 at 1:31 AM

  7. You’ve made it!

    jjbees

    July 7, 2019 at 9:14 AM

  8. Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking charges. This is very big news.

    gothamette

    July 7, 2019 at 9:47 AM

    • Just one more old rich guy in prison? I’m not sure there’s much there.

      • His home on the UES is yuuuge. Other than that, he looks an evil doppelganger of Anthony Burdain.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 7, 2019 at 12:09 PM

      • 1 old rich guy who was f****** 14 year old virgins, and providing same to prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz? And who knows else?

        He was obviously a part of an enormous black male ring. If the truth comes out it will be devastating.

        gothamette

        July 7, 2019 at 12:33 PM

      • Oy, blackmail, not blackmail. Ironically, I don’t think any black males were involved.

        gothamette

        July 7, 2019 at 12:34 PM

      • It will be very interesting if any solid evidence comes out against those guys, because society tends to throw the book at men for statutory rape. Although if you’re R. Kelly, you can get off with the Shaggy defense.

        Also, it will provide more fodder for antisemites to claim that pedophilia and child pornography are Jewish conspiracies.

        Hermes

        July 7, 2019 at 9:19 PM

      • “Also, it will provide more fodder for antisemites to claim that pedophilia and child pornography are Jewish conspiracies.”

        That’s already happening in the usual places.

        But truth is truth, and the crimes that Epstein has been accused of are so massive, I say let the chips fall where they may. Kind of like Madoff.

        My feeling about Acosta is that Trump is abiding by the maxim, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. The Don will dispatch you when the time is ripe.

        I’m actually wondering whether the Don is behind this arrest. All the anti-Trump people are frothing at the mouth just waiting for bad stuff to come out about the Don. But I think this is another Mueller report. No collusion.

        He’s just too careful. He doesn’t drink and he is very particular about who he lets into his inner circle. He had Epstein banned from Mar-A-Lago.

        At least, that’s what I’m hoping.

        gothamette

        July 8, 2019 at 8:38 AM

      • Statutory rape happens all the time, they say that in more than half of births by girls under the age of 18, the father is 20 or older.

        People only care because Epstein is rich and connected.

      • The girl being under 18 doesn’t necessarily mean statutory rape. The age of consent varies by state and is lower than 18 in the majority of states. But 14 is illegal in every state. And it’s also against federal law to travel abroad for for the purposes of having sex with a girl under 18.

        Hermes

        July 8, 2019 at 10:55 AM

      • “People only care because Epstein is rich and connected.”

        Lion, this and many other comments has convinced me that you really are on the spectrum.

        Or you’re just bullshitting and trolling.

        Um, yeah, people only care because he’s rich and connected. Connected to some of the most powerful people on earth.

        When some eighteen-year-old fucks a fourteen-year-old no one cares and no one should. But when a fiftyish billionaire procures 14 year olds for some of the most powerful people on Earth, there are consequences.

        Are you really that dense?

        gothamette

        July 8, 2019 at 11:05 AM

      • A lot of fiftyish men go to prostitutes, and many of those prostitutes might be under the legal age.

      • He didn’t go to a prostitute or prostitutes, he was a sexual predator.

        gothamette

        July 8, 2019 at 2:13 PM

      • Well he was more like a pimp because he groomed the young girls for prostitution.

      • Well yeah.

        Interesting how you get more worked up over a stupid hat than this.

        gothamette

        July 8, 2019 at 3:24 PM

      • Epstein’s plane logs show that he’s shared his plane with Chris Tucker (in addition to Kevin Spacey).

        GondwanaMan

        July 8, 2019 at 11:49 AM

      • “A lot of fiftyish men go to prostitutes, and many of those prostitutes might be under the legal age”

        Will lifelike female sexatators take care of business in the near future, so that horny old geezers don’t become another Epstein?

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2019 at 12:42 PM

    • I agree that this is big news. And the first thing I thought was, “I wonder if gothamette has heard about this!” He was inviting a LOT of rich, famous and influential people from politics, business and entertainment down to his island to diddle underage girls. If all the dirty laundry comes out then a lot of famous people could end up having their reputations ruined.

      destructure

      July 7, 2019 at 2:24 PM

      • You’re thinking what I’m thinking. Or, I’m thinking what you’re thinking.

        I didn’t think that any of this would go down until after the Queen dies, because Prince Andrew is implicated. I really think it’s dirty enough to bring down the British royal family. Yep, it’s that big and it’s that bad.

        I do not believe Trump had anything to do with Epstein, he’s too careful. But I could be wrong. I did read somewhere that he barred Epstein from Mar-A-Lago after he learned that Epstein put the make on somebody’s daughter. So there’s that.

        Dershowitz is heavily implicated, as is Clinton.

        gothamette

        July 7, 2019 at 5:27 PM

      • I don’t think Trump is that careful, but he definitely has a type, and little girls are not it. He likes statuesque and poised, preferably tall and blonde. There’s nothing weird or unconventional about his tastes in women.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        July 9, 2019 at 12:30 PM

    • @gothamette
      I honestly can’t imagine Alan Dershowitz was ever a part of Epstien’s gang of perverts. And no, this isn’t a partisan defense of him because he’s one of the very few heavyweight intellectuals who says sensible things. Dershowitz does actually embody a kind of wholesomeness. Or maybe rectitude is a better word.

      Roli

      July 7, 2019 at 3:36 PM

      • He’s always struck me as being a complete sleazebag.

        gothamette

        July 7, 2019 at 5:36 PM

      • A lot of people visited the island including women. I don’t think they’re all guilty. But it’s hard to know who fell for his blackmail trap and who didn’t. Probably most of them. I honestly don’t know what to think about Dershowitz or even Trump. I have to think that’s part of what’s driving this now.

        destructure

        July 7, 2019 at 8:39 PM

      • “this blackmail trap ”

        Well yeah, I mean, really.

        This whole thing reeks of blackmail, it’s obvious. If Epstein was a smart pedo, he would have done all this shit privately, discreetly. He could have done that and gotten away with it forever.

        But he was totally open and involved all of his rich influential buddies with documentary proof. So this was blackmail, yup. Didn’t think ones who were blackmailed notice?

        I can’t believe that all of the facts will come out. I think if they did there might really be a revolution. So I don’t think it will come out.

        gothamette

        July 8, 2019 at 10:18 AM

      • The woman who filed a lawsuit (twice dismissed before the 2016 election) claiming trump had relations with her via epstein when she was 13 years old describes trump telling her she reminds him of his daughter. This is the same thing he allegedly said to stormy daniels. It’s pretty disheartening if you ask me.

        toomanymice

        July 8, 2019 at 11:38 AM

      • toomanymice — The woman never existed. The suit was filed by attorneys as a political dirty trick.

        destructure

        July 8, 2019 at 1:58 PM

      • Then who is the woman who has given video testimony? Why the correlation of what trump allegedly said about his daughter? He absolutely did run in those circles 1990s. If SD’s story was fake she could have made it much more damning.

        I’m on ‘your side’ but this is not something that can be dismissed as a vast left wing conspiracy. I think the truth about these people is much uglier than either of us cares to stomach.

        toomanymice

        July 8, 2019 at 7:00 PM

      • https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/08/watch-donald-trump-and-prince-andrew-meet-up-in-london-ahead-of-friend-jeffrey-epsteins-arrest/

        “Neither Trump nor Clinton has been accused of taking part in sexual misdeeds related to Epstein, the Washington Post reported in 2017. Trump also banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago “because Epstein sexually assaulted an underage girl at the club,” an attorney for one of Epstein’s alleged victims said in court documents, the Washington Post added.”

        The WaPo article referenced was from 2017. Which was well after the suit was filed. This was a civil suit not criminal. Anyone can file a frivolous civil lawsuit against anyone for anything. As long as you drop it in time, you can get away with it. Which brings us to another point. The suit wasn’t dismissed. It was dropped by the attorneys for the plaintiff 4 days before the election. They weren’t serious about it. It was just political dirty tricks. As for the woman, she never really existed. Just someone desperate for money that they paid to be the “plaintiff”. Rape shield laws would protect her identity anyway. So it was the perfect smear.

        Note also that Trump kicked Epstein out of his club for sexually assaulting an underage girl at the club. That does not sound like someone being blackmailed.

        destructure

        July 9, 2019 at 10:19 AM

  9. Congratulations! You now have evidence that two of the hundreds of people you’ve asserted read your blog have actually done so.

    Hermes

    July 7, 2019 at 10:38 AM

  10. Finally, there’s proof. Unfortunately, Going Under Into Dull Outskirts is low status, as in writing a book about a prole subculture and giving you credit is not something you really want, if I’m not mistaken.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    July 7, 2019 at 10:42 AM

    • JS, I always thought you said that in “Meriprolestan” all that matters is money and status? Any attention is good attention in the world of ideas and publishing. I’m proud of our Lion for being citied in a bibliography – even one by a “guido researcher.”

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      July 8, 2019 at 12:00 AM

      • I haven’t really looked into the book, but it’s about guido culture. I think Lion would be happier if his blog was quoted in a book about avoiding proles and cultivating middle class behavior.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        July 8, 2019 at 9:30 AM

  11. Nice! Finally getting the serious recognition you deserve.

    Tom

    July 7, 2019 at 2:25 PM

  12. The author is a professor at CUNY. I wonder if he’s a regular reader or if he just stumbled upon Lion’s blog while researching online.

    You can download the book here:

    http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=8A20A93C624E518D19BEBF28C394C246

    Tom

    July 7, 2019 at 4:54 PM

    • Who’d have thought that guy’s “book” would be pirated?

      • Why are you putting the word book in quotation marks? Isn’t it a real book?

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        July 7, 2019 at 11:53 PM

    • Why would I pirate it? I’ll buy it in print form and give the “guido author” his profit.

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      July 7, 2019 at 11:49 PM

      • $80 to read the book? I don’t think so.

      • Yes. And I just saw that even the e-book costs $70. I guess this is one author whose work I’ll have to skip. For this much money a book would have to do a lot more than analyze “guido culture.” It would have to give me some secret code to obtain the fountain of youth, the brilliance of Einstein, etc.. For me $40-50 is usually tops for a book -and even this price I won’t pay too often. I like those inexpensive Kindle e-books for $2.99 – the self help kind. I may even write one myself: “How to counter guido-bashing in five easy steps”

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        July 8, 2019 at 12:33 AM

  13. LION’S BLOG RECOGNIZED AS GUIDO, MARYK HARDEST HIT

    driveallnight

    July 7, 2019 at 7:21 PM

    • Too funny! Almost as funny as the time you asked me the last time I got laid and referred to me as “Mamma Guida Sarducci!”

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      July 7, 2019 at 11:47 PM

      • Yeah you were all drunk talkIng shit, “I get laid like tile when I visit my aunt at the rest home” etc

        driveallnight

        July 8, 2019 at 4:08 AM

  14. The last time I checked my publications (scientific articles, patents) had 965 citations. However, when my long response to an article in the major online newspaper was published as a separate article, I was very excited too.

    My 2¢

    July 7, 2019 at 9:58 PM

  15. Actually, Lion, I’m not really sure that this author has been reading your blog on a regular basis. Most likely he was researching all things guido and typed the term “guido” into a search engine, and your post about the guido congressman came up. Your blog uses the term guido openly and unapologetically. For this reason it may have caught his attention.

    I can’t comment on the book in question as I haven’t read it yet. But I’m wondering is a “guido researcher” a researcher who is himself a guido or one who is simply doing research about guidos? It’s hard to picture an actual guido as a researcher – research requiring a high degree of literacy, intellectual analysis (at the very least, sorting out trivial information from significant info,) and high future time orientation. And guidos are famous for exactly none of these traits.

    Somewhat on topic: Just out of curiosity I watched on Youtube some “best of Jersey Shore” clips. I was struck by the fact that some of the cast were more intelligent and had a more sophisticated vocabulary than I imagined they’d have.

    Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

    July 7, 2019 at 11:45 PM

    • ‘But I’m wondering is a “guido researcher” a researcher who is himself a guido or one who is simply doing research about guidos?’

      That’s a good question!

    • I believe judge Guido Calabresi has been cited on this blog before. In addition to him, there is Guido van Rossum, the inventor of the Python programming language. Though he is a Dutch Guido and not an Italian one.

      Lion might consider programming prole, but is inventing a programming language prole?

      Hermes

      July 8, 2019 at 8:01 AM

      • It’s not the actual name “Guido” that’s prole, especially for older Italians who may have been given that name before guido culture developed.

  16. I hear that this author’s next project is figuring out how Lion went from making “maryk” angry with his anti-Italian comments to getting her to the point where she voluntarily designated herself a “guidette” -albeit a g-loaded one.

    Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

    July 7, 2019 at 11:52 PM

  17. As a Canadian and especially one living in Vancouver, a city not particularly well known for having too many Italian (immigrants or otherwise), I’ve always been a bit amazed that Italians are considered lesser Europeans (especially on the US Eastern seaboard). Seriously aren’t these the people responsible for the renaissance, the Vatican, aqueducts, Fellini, and never mind cutting edge contemporary clothes, cars and culture. What am I not seeing?

    Roli

    July 8, 2019 at 1:39 AM

    • It has to do with the Northern Elite vs the Southern Peasantry divide of Italy. Most Italian immigrants to the New World aren’t the bourgeois types where the Renaissance was born.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 8, 2019 at 9:39 AM

  18. Well, I’ll be damned. An honest to goodness academic citation. That’s worth so much prestige. Do your coworkers envy you? I guess you can’t tell them.

    I don’t know if your mom is alive, but if she is, she should frame this and put it on her wall.

    I hope I can be cited one day.

    Monsieur le Baron

    July 8, 2019 at 5:23 AM

  19. I believe Curle? mentioned the movie Eyes Wide Shut in the last week or so, in reference to elite types behaving badly. Funny thing is the styalized debauchery depicted in EWS comes close to what I imagine Epstein’s island must been like in it’s full glory. Jesus, I can’t imagine the books and movies that will flow out of this case once more dirt comes out. On a side note, Epstein’s long-term girlfriend is Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the disgraced British media baron Robert Maxwell, who committed suicide in the early 90s just weeks prior to his company being charged with stealing hundreds of millions in employee pension funds. Maxwell was also a holocaust survivor and steadfast supporters of Brutain’s Labour party and all its attendant left wing causes. Prior to his death in the early 90s he was sort of like a lesser George Soros. Ghislaine his daughter meanwhile was not just Epstien’s partner but has been implicated in court documents in the procurement and grooming of young girls for the pleasure of Epstein and his friends. Ghislaine is also a SJW and heads a major environmentalist NGO.
    I’d been away from home the last couple of days and hadn’t had a chance to watch any TV. Yesterday when I briefly caught the news, the top story was about Epstien. The Canadian news channel I was watching laid out the charges against Epstein, all the while showing a photo of him standing arm in arm with Donald Trump. I shouldn’t be surprised at how sleazy the media is anymore, but it still surprises me from time to time.

    Roli

    July 8, 2019 at 8:17 PM


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