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Mass shooting at “garlic festival”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/multiple-victims-reported-possible-shooting-gilroy-garlic-festival-n1035546

Shortly after I wrote that post, another mass shooting. This time, the perp is a white guy with a semi-automatic or automatic rifle, so we will hear a lot about this.

I hate garlic. Massively overrated horrible disgusting spice.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 28, 2019 at EDT pm

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  1. Since 2000 California has banned detachable rifle magazines that hold more than ten rounds but allowed people who had bought larger magazines before the restriction took effect to continue to own them. A few years ago the state eliminated this grandfather clause, but a court stayed enforcement of the new restriction and earlier this year found it unconstitutional. As things stand, therefore, California residents can own large capacity rifle magazines, but only if acquired pre-2000.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    July 28, 2019 at EDT pm

  2. I briefly lived in Gilroy many years ago. I recall it being a crappy town full of mexican gangster wannabes.

    How can you not like garlic?

    destructure

    July 28, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Wasn’t it about a month ago Lion noted how tasty P.F. Chang’s was? Does he think they do it without garlic?

      Marty

      July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • This mass shooting took place in proximity to techie-land, San Jose. I guess pricey gated communities in California are immune to this kind of stuff, that happens in nearby lower cost, prole areas.

      Unlike the harmless black pepper, onion n garlic which are both bulbs that ferment under the soil, are sources of flatulence for certain individuals upon ingestion, similar to those who are lactose intolerant. There are brands of pasta sauce that do not contain onion and garlic.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  3. Maybe someone just really hates garlic. (I hate garlic, but I have an alibi)

    Rosenmops

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • What’s your alibi, that you’re a vampire?

      njguy73

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

      • And that it couldn’t have been you, since you can’t come out in sunlight?

        njguy73

        July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

      • My alibi is that I was in Canada at the time of the shooting. But I really really hate garlic. To me it smells like rotting vomit and BO. All my grandparents are from the UK. Garlic is not a traditional British food. There was never garlic in our house when I was growing up.

        In Vancouver there was a chain of restaurants called “White Spot” (nothing to do with race–everyone in Vancouver was white back then so no one ever thought about race, )

        We used to go there often, and loved the food. Then, at some point, maybe in the 80’s or 90’s, they started putting garlic in everything. I was so sad. I rarely eat in restaurants now.

        Rosenmops

        July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

      • You mention garlic in terms of tradition. We have some garlic that’s been in the family for at least a century. No one even knows how long. But every time the family moved or someone left home they’d take some to their new house. It didn’t start as a tradition. But it became one. We also have some onions that have been in the family since the 1950’s. So when I moved overseas I went through the hassle of importing them.

        destructure

        July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

  4. Wouldn’t get too confident just yet. The woman who said “white man” also said “3-4” shots per second, which implies a full auto burst mode weapon. Pretty hard to get your hands on in California. Anybody who had one of those would be real hard core, and you would expect a much higher victim count from someone like that. Either that, or she’s an unreliable witness.
    Garlic is alright, but it doesn’t merit a dedicated festival. Not to mention you can smell Gilroy from Fresno.

    Dmon

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • Cyclic rate of pretty much any assault rifle is 9-10 rounds per second. And people suck at counting things per unit of time. If the witness heard distinct shots it was almost certainly semi-auto fire, to the bounds of witness credibility.

      Some_Guy

      July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  5. Hating garlic is very North European (WASPy in tacy). Japanese also hate garlic, and mock Koreans for being garlic eaters. Is there a stereotype about Jews and garlic? Czechs, Hungarians and Russians mostly like garlic, I would assume Jews from those regions feel the same way.

    Peter Akuleyev

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  6. We need garlic control!

    370H55V

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  7. The Senators are Feinstein and Harris. This is probably some MK Ultra windup toy. They need a distraction from Jeffrey Epstein.

    Gilroy is 59% Hispanic and this is one whole Democrat area. Lots of drugged-up, unhinged liberals to manipulate into a shooting, along with compliant, Democrat-controlled law enforcement.

    map

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  8. Garlic is great. I believe it’s an herb, not a spice. It’s very healthy and has anti-bacterial properties, lowers blood pressure and cholesterol. It’s a traditional medicinal herb.

    I’m surprised you don’t like garlic when you’re a lifelong New Yorker. Do you not like Italian food?

    For a real authentic guido meal, there’s a simple dish that’s a popular traditional staple in Italy called spaghetti aglio e olio. It’s just a lot of sliced garlic lightly sauteed (not burned garlic, which is very bitter and tastes bad) with some red pepper flakes in olive oil for 10 minutes and spaghetti, with some Italian parsley. That’s it. The garlic and olive oil are the “sauce” for the spaghetti. You mix some of the salted pasta water at the end with the oil and garlic to increase the volume of the sauce, then you toss it with the spaghetti. You can top it with some Italian parsley. I love it. It’s delicious. Very cheap, quick and easy to make. You use half a cup of olive oil, a bulb of garlic, and 1 lb. box of spaghetti. Though you do smell like garlic for some time afterwards, and you can get indigestion from the oil.

    Tom

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • You have to do it the way the Goodfellas guys did it in jail: slice the cloves paper thin with a razor blade, and presumably they will dissolve in the olive oil when sautéed at low heat.

      a bee ee?

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

    • That sounds like something my wife has made a few times. It was alright.

      destructure

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

  9. You are over compensating, even white people like garlic

    Hashed

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

  10. If you like chinese food, chances are you’ve ingested garlic without realizing it.

    There is also garlic in virtually all commercial tomato sauces.

    toomanymice

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • I’m aware of that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 29, 2019 at EDT am

      • Entire cloves of garlic are out for me, but sometimes I discover a small amount of garlic in something I’ve happily eaten (by looking at the ingredients), I thought I could detect small amounts but apparently not.

        Both my kids like it. They both started cooking young because my cooking was too boring for them.

        Frau Katze

        July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Don’t forget onion, which has the same or similar properties as garlic. Fody Foods, which is based in Montréal, sells their non-onion n garlic dressings and sauces on the shelves of Whole Foods. Although, I’m not entirely sure if their tomato sauce is in stock. Whole Foods is very strict when it comes to ingredients. The ingredients must be natural with no preservatives, where certain products from a brand pass the Whole Food test, while other products from the same brand do not. A good example is Lactaid, which is milk for those who are lactose intolerant. Their whole milk is Whole Foods certifiable, but their chocolate milk is not, because it contains refined sugar, and not cane sugar.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Onion is not nearly as strong as garlic. But I think it’s all biology. Some people might find onion as strong.

        Suppose you have unbalanced taste buds. You might then be super sensitive if you had too many taste buds for something,

        I once asked a psychiatrist if you could somehow get yourself to like things that many others like. Apparently it’s next to impossible. Confirms that it’s biology.

        Frau Katze

        July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Cane sugar IS refined sugar, Cane is crushed and in the process produces cane juice which is refined into granulated sugar. The myth in the US that sugar extracted from sugar cane is so much healthier than sugar extracted from beets is ridiculous, they are the same thing chemically. Stevia is a healthy alternative for sweeteners, sugar cane sugar is not.

        DJGB

        July 30, 2019 at EDT pm

      • @DJGB No refined sugar is good for you (or even unrefined, edible sugar).

        But the sugar that is seen as the worst is derived from corn syrup. It has a uniquely bad reputation. Cane or beet sugar are considered better than that derived from corn syrup.

        I don’t pretend to know why. They all have the same amount of calories AFAIK.

        Corn syrup has become widely used because it’s cheaper,

        Frau Katze

        July 30, 2019 at EDT pm

  11. You know who else hates garlic?

    Vampires!

    Just have a look at yourself in the mirror, Lion. If you can see yourself in mirrors, that is.

    dbp

    July 29, 2019 at EDT am

    • He looks like a mongrel of Mestizo and Anglo White.

      What differentiates Hispanics from the 2 coasts are telling. Mexicans predominantly live in California and the Southwest are not only Mestizo based, thereby, being a better breed of Hispanic than their Afro-Caribbean cousins on the East Coast, they tend to partially “Americanize” themselves and you see it with their names, and intermarry with Whites more frequently.

      Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and Colombians on the East Coast are just foreign aliens, who refuse to adapt to the greater sphere of the Anglo world. Can’t blame them entirely, especially if they live in the NYC-tristate area, and if guidos in Staten Island are of the same predicament, just a few notches better, because Italian Americans are descended from Europeans, there is no finger pointing.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

  12. Gilroy, Morgan Hill, et al are where FIRE tech workers or non-tech Valley workers live to boost their savings. The commute in is unbearable but there really is no value paying almost $3K a month for a 1960’s unit with no A/C just for a boring zip code (the schools are overrated, whatever network effects you are giving your children positioning them next to striving Asians are negated by delinquent UMC choads).

    This is a legendary festival and part of Bay Area heritage (they sell Gilroy Garlic fries at Giants games). Sad to see it.

    A Dilettante

    July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

  13. I live about 15 miles from Gilroy now. Went to garlic festival once 20 years ago. All I remember is it was very hot, dusty and a lots of garlic food. No plans to go back.

    Shooter is Santino Legan. Reported to be of Italian and Iranian decent. His grandfather was a Santa Clara County Supervisor at one time. He has an older brother that is a boxer. Grew up and lived his life in Gilroy. He is reported to have had an Instagram account with a few posts. One of them said ““Read Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard. Why overcrowd towns and pave more open space to make room for hordes of mestizos and Silicon Valley white twats?”

    Gilroy is at the very south end of Silicon Valley. It is mainly an agricultural area, but because housing costs are lower some people working in Silicon Valley are moving there. It is a hellish commute to Silicon Valley from there.

    “Might Is Right” is a book published in 1890. The author is unknown. It rejects all established moral principals and says that only physical strength can establish moral principals. Some people think it was written as a satire of Social Darwinism. Apparently portions of the book were included in early editions of The Book of Satan which is the bible of the Church of Satan.

    MikeCA

    July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

    • I went when I lived there back in 1981. Took about 2 1/2 hours to get there from Mountain View, and had to park about a half mile away. I tried the following year again, but when I hit a brick wall of traffic on 101 just south of downtown San Jose I turned around. As much as I enjoyed it, once was enough.

      370H55V

      July 29, 2019 at EDT pm

  14. Sachs: My Cuomo ‘garlic’ gaffe at ’84 Democratic convention
    By STEPHEN H. SACHS, for The Washington Post
    September 4, 2012

    ******
    In 1984, I was Maryland’s attorney general, a candidate for governor and a delegate to the national convention. As we flew to San Francisco, the presence of my daughter, Elisabeth, who was the page this time, helped prompt a reverie. My memories were of that week in Chicago … and the eloquent Adlai.

    A reporter interrupted my nostalgia on the plane. He knew I was a fan of New York Gov. Mario Cuomo, who was to deliver the keynote address. How do you think Cuomo will do, he asked. My thoughts lingered on that first convention, and on Adlai.

    Comparison was inescapable.

    “Great,” I responded, but recognizing that Stevenson was considered by many to be effete, the prototypical egghead, and not wanting to stick that label on Cuomo, I continued: “This guy is Adlai Stevenson … with garlic.” The quote was in The Washington Post the next day.

    My first call was from my friend and supporter Frank Pesci, a member of Maryland’s House of Delegates. Frank wondered how he was going to explain my “ethnic slur” to the Italian American community.

    Next I heard from my campaign manager, Blair Lee IV, who sternly reminded me that the task of a candidate was to attract, not repel, voters.

    Throughout the convention week, I attempted long-distance explanations with my Italian-American friends back home. Then things quieted down.

    That is, until a Boston newspaper ran a front-page article about the perils of “ethnic humor” that featured the whole damned garlic story and my photograph.

    And until I received a letter from New York congressman Mario Biaggi on behalf of the Italian American Anti-Defamation League deploring my insensitivity.

    I could do nothing about the “ethnic humor” article except be thankful that it appeared in Boston, not Baltimore.

    But I wrote a long letter to the congressman: I had clearly, albeit inadvertently, offended him, I wrote. I apologized.

    I was brought up in a home in which combating racial, religious and ethnic stereotypes was not merely a watchword; it was the core of my father’s job as executive director of the Baltimore Jewish Council, I told him.

    Cuomo frequently and proudly identified with his Italian heritage; it was part of the political persona he clearly enjoyed. Thus, the reference to a staple of Italian cooking was especially appropriate.

    Finally, I wrote, I meant the remark as a compliment. Garlic was a symbol of strength, an antidote to the “egghead” moniker. If Cuomo had been Jewish, I probably would have said that he was “Adlai Stevenson with horseradish.” My vexing story has a happy ending, at least for me. I later ran into Biaggi at a Mondale rally. We embraced. He told me he loved my letter so much that he had framed and hung it on his office wall.

    It didn’t remain there long, though. The congressman was convicted of corruption charges in 1987 and 1988 and served time in prison.

    I don’t know what became of my framed letter.

    MEH 0910

    July 29, 2019 at EDT pm


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