Lion of the Blogosphere

Epstein and eugenics

But does he believe in HBD? If he had ever said anything “racist,” I’m sure the NY Times would have gone all out to highlight that.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 31, 2019 at 9:21 PM

Posted in Biology

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  1. This is why I’ve been reading less novels and watching less TV and film lately. It can’t compete with real life. Some screenwriter came with a character like Epstein, he’d be laughed at.

    njguy73

    July 31, 2019 at 9:27 PM

    • There are limits to human imagination. I was fascinated by people that I met while visiting psychiatric hospitals. You will not meet normal people that are as interesting. Here we have a guy who had such elaborate plans and apparently no children.

      My 2c

      July 31, 2019 at 10:39 PM

      • “A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.”
        George S. Patton

        Curle

        July 31, 2019 at 11:15 PM

    • True crimes usually beats fiction. But it’s more depressing because it actually happened.

      Frau Katze

      July 31, 2019 at 11:38 PM

    • can’t compete with real life.

      Reading California criminal appeals leads to the same conclusion. How about this one from Riverside County in 2017? At a 7-11, they’re doing a cash count so they ask the customers to leave for 10 minutes. A white guy walks up to the black security guard and says he’s in a hurry. The guard says, “sorry sir, we’ll reopen in 10 minutes.” The guy leaves, sets up a tripod across the street, and tries to shoot the guard with his .308, but kicks the cashier instead. Tells the cops, “it was a respect thing.”

      Vipltd

      August 1, 2019 at 5:42 PM

      • How do you find out this stuff? Are you a Californian? Is this on record at the library? My state should have some good ones.

        njguy73

        August 2, 2019 at 12:06 AM

      • @Nj73:

        Go to Findlaw California, choose court of appeal decisions, then type in “People”. No way to filter after that, but gets you all reported felony opinions for any year.

        Vipltd

        August 2, 2019 at 10:49 AM

  2. How about a drug that curbs his libido once and for all, while he artificially inseminates his sperm into a woman’s vulva, without his penis getting in the way?

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    July 31, 2019 at 9:27 PM

    • I don’t think that word means what you think.

      destructure

      July 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM

      • reddit.com/r/badwomensanatomy

        Although supposedly it is possible to get pregnant by an exterior deposit.

        This begs the question how did epstein prevent pregnancies in his worldwide harem? Surely there were a few accidents? It also begs the question who offered gynecological care for the girls. You don’t have an endless supply of tweens running topless around your island without the occasional female problem, not to mention STI testing and birth control. Somewhere out there is a doctor with some terrible secrets.

        toomanymice

        August 1, 2019 at 2:15 PM

      • toomanymice — I’ve wondered those things myself. But you’re the first person I’ve heard voice them. I suspect some interesting details to emerge from the trial.

        destructure

        August 1, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    • Holy shit, guess who’s outed as incel hahaaaaa

      driveallnight

      August 1, 2019 at 4:16 PM

      • Lol

        Looch

        August 1, 2019 at 5:57 PM

  3. It doesn’t appear to be the case that Epstein was interested in f#cking NAM women or even Eastern Asiatics. So HBD is a moot point!

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    July 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM

  4. “the discredited field of improving the human race through controlled breeding.”

    Only discredited people call eugenics discredited.

    Curle

    July 31, 2019 at 11:12 PM

    • Everything that offends liberals (aka THE TRUTH) is “discredited” or “debunked” or “hate.”

      fakeemail

      August 1, 2019 at 1:18 AM

    • That phrase, “the discredited field of improving the human race through controlled breeding,” is probably a mandatory disclaimer in the NYT stylebook.

      Mike Street Station

      August 1, 2019 at 6:03 AM

  5. He looks master race in that picture. I hope I look that good when I’m in my 60s.

    • Eugenics-oriented Epstein must be Con as in Khan in Star Trek. He duped girls to sleep with him, and the wealthy to put their trust with him. Seedy is a code name for Epstein. He needed money to entice women, so he can seed them, and needed more money to create a pod of Epstein seeds.

      Now is Epstein “Alpha” in the Manosphere? I don’t think we have an answer. I know Khan was exiled by Kirk to a planet called Alpha such and such in the solar system.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      August 1, 2019 at 9:36 AM

    • Rich men who’ve eaten right, worked out and had low stress their whole lives can look amazing for their age. For example, Sir Richard Branson is another one who’s almost 70 and looks 50ish. But I still think that picture of Epstein is a few years old with some botox. Compare it to this more recent one with all the crags and bags under his eyes. Still not bad for 66. But his face is thinner and looks a lot older. I’m wondering if some news outlets are still using old pictures they had on file from before his 2008 conviction.

      I just started a new scifi series with Katee Sackhoff called “Another Life”. Her body is as good as it ever was. But her face has aged a lot. If you’ve watched her in BSG and Longmire, it’s kind of jarring.

      destructure

      August 1, 2019 at 5:18 PM

      • I’m going to watch it as soon as I finish Stranger Things Season 3!!!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 1, 2019 at 6:54 PM

      • Another Life is watchable if you don’t have anything better to do. But it’s not nearly as good as Stranger Things. So don’t expect too much and you won’t be disappointed. I’ve only seen two episodes so maybe it gets better.

        destructure

        August 1, 2019 at 10:44 PM

      • Yeah Katee Sackhoff has aged, but at least she’s still working out. She’s supposedly 39, but face wise I would have guessed older than that.

        Mike Street Station

        August 2, 2019 at 6:14 AM

      • Stranger Things Season 3: What happens when millenial women try to write male characters.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        August 2, 2019 at 9:06 AM

      • Mike – I thought about it after my last comment and think I’ve figured it out. Her face was better in Longmire which was only a couple of years ago. But she was also a little heavier. She’s much leaner now. And her face looks very “hard” kind of like middle aged female bodybuilders. When middle aged women reduce body fat below a certain percentage they lose the softness in their face. I noticed Madonna’s face got like that a few years ago when she was working out really hard.

        destructure

        August 2, 2019 at 6:35 PM

      • You still watching that Satanic Stranger Things?

        I would recommend the Prime series “The Boys.”

        Quite good.

        map

        August 3, 2019 at 3:15 AM

    • Even the pitiful Epstein haters who comment here must secretly admire his chiseled alpha male bone structure, martial arts expertise, extravagant lifestyle, and refusal to play by society’s rules.

      Of course someone with Epstein’s interests and stratospheric IQ believes in the truth of HBD. He’s probably never said anything racist because he knows that racism is far more taboo than schlonging teen prostitutes or starting your own eugenics program on your ranch in New Mexico.

      Horace Pinker

      August 1, 2019 at 7:02 PM

      • You have a point. I think Epstein could out-argue any White Nationalist type that looks and money gets you far with attractive White women, and that he as a Jewish urbanite, is doing them a favor by farming smart and beautiful girls. It’s no surprise that the suburban and rural areas are devoid of nice looking women, and these swathes of White towns will board up for good, if America continues the same trajectory towards suicide.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        August 2, 2019 at 10:33 AM

    • Having hair is a very youthening effect. Bald men look their age and then some.

      fakeemail

      August 1, 2019 at 7:14 PM

  6. Stan Adams

    July 31, 2019 at 11:42 PM

    • From a strictly hbd perspective, that’s exactly the kind of guy who should be spreading his seed.

      toomanymice

      August 1, 2019 at 2:23 PM

    • There have been way too many instances of that kind of crap. Common sense says that only women should be working at fertility clinics. Common sense also says that DNA testing should be mandatory for every IVF baby. As inexpensive as it is, it should be mandatory for every baby. And husbands should be exempt for child support for children that aren’t theirs.

      destructure

      August 1, 2019 at 8:07 AM

      • Common sense says women should get pregnant the old fashioned way and start trying before they’re 30. If you’re trying for your first kid at 40, you probably made a mistake.

        everybodyhatesscott

        August 1, 2019 at 9:53 AM

      • Sperm bank should only be for infertile married couples (man and woman), if they should exist at all. It’s female imperative cuckoldry.

        https://therationalmale.com/2014/01/29/secret-of-the-sperm-bank/

        fakeemail

        August 1, 2019 at 11:24 AM

      • @Everybody It’s not just common sense. It’s backed by statistics.

        I saw something about this (best time to get pregnant) just the other day,

        Frau Katze

        August 1, 2019 at 4:09 PM

      • “There have been way too many instances of that kind of crap.”

        And then there was this one. The one that set the standard by which all other instances are measured.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Jacobson

        njguy73

        August 1, 2019 at 5:29 PM

      • @Everybody — I agree that people should get married and have children before they’re 40. But I have no objection to IVF. This isn’t a topic that comes up a lot. But I’ve noticed a small percentage of the public is fanatically opposed to IVF. Why would anyone even care?

        destructure

        August 1, 2019 at 6:23 PM

      • I’ve noticed a small percentage of the public is fanatically opposed to IVF. ”

        I’ve not noticed that. Who is the opposition?

        Mike Street Station

        August 2, 2019 at 6:16 AM

      • Agree with everyone about everything.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        August 2, 2019 at 3:15 PM

      • Mike — Ironically, pro-lifers and especially catholics. I’m not saying they all do. For most it’s probably not even on the radar. But some are fanatically opposed to it because it results in unused embryos, most of which are never used and destroyed. But that’s not who I was talking about. I’ve noticed there are a small number of apparently random people who are very opposed to it. I’m not even sure why they oppose it. Maybe it’s too “Brave New World” for them or something.

        destructure

        August 2, 2019 at 5:37 PM

      • There was a minor uproar about a year ago when it was revealed that IVF clinics do genetic screening.

        map

        August 3, 2019 at 3:22 AM

      • “Ironically, pro-lifers and especially catholics. I’m not saying they all do. For most it’s probably not even on the radar. But some are fanatically opposed to it because it results in unused embryos, most of which are never used and destroyed.”

        I’ve only heard that as a leftist talking point; that pro-lifers are hypocrites because they oppose abortion but support IVF, which of course ends up with destroyed and discarded embryos, but I’m not sure I’ve heard that as an actual pro-life argument.

        Mike Street Station

        August 3, 2019 at 6:21 AM

    • Will be interesting to see if the kids of HS dropouts and this guy start exceeding expectations in school for their cohort.

      Curle

      August 1, 2019 at 11:09 AM

      • Curle – you don’t suppose if slavery reparations are passed into law, smart White males could be allowed to pay their share in the form of sperm given to Black women? That might be the most affirmative action of all.

        njguy73

        August 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM

      • “White males could be allowed to pay their share in the form of sperm given to Black women?“

        From your lips to God’s ears!

        Curle

        August 1, 2019 at 9:50 PM

      • Oh, I forgot. There’s this thing called regression to the mean. So, no, the offspring of Spermy Math Dude and Lesbo Shaniqua probably won’t be super genius NBA stars.

        njguy73

        August 2, 2019 at 2:02 PM

  7. Do you know anyone who wears a Harvard hoodie/sweaty without attending the school?

    I know of one guy besides Epstein, and he was projecting.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    August 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM

  8. His many sons might have inherited his deformed, minuscule, and weirdly egg-shaped penis.

    Mister Triple 800

    August 1, 2019 at 10:06 AM

    • Good. Will lower expectations for the rest of us.

      Curle

      August 1, 2019 at 11:11 AM

    • “One adherent of transhumanism said that he and Mr. Epstein discussed the financier’s interest in cryonics, an unproven science in which people’s bodies are frozen to be brought back to life in the future. Mr. Epstein told this person that he wanted his head and penis to be frozen.”

      Lion of the Turambar

      August 1, 2019 at 1:58 PM

      • Obviously he was joking.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 1, 2019 at 3:09 PM

      • If his member is as unique as his accusers claim it is, it belongs in a museum (the Mutter Museum of medical oddities in Philadelphia perhaps) and really should be preserved.

        Mister Triple 800

        August 2, 2019 at 10:02 AM

  9. Not sure what this has to do with eugenics, per se. It’s more like a creepy guy who can’t breed the normal way thinking he can do it impersonally. It doesn’t seem as if he ever followed up, unlike the Sperminator who put his money where his jizz is.

    gothamette

    August 1, 2019 at 11:36 AM

    • “who put his money where his jizz is.”

      Nice one.

      Curle

      August 1, 2019 at 9:52 PM

      • I discovered Ari is married w/3 kids and wife ain’t too happy about extracurriculars.

        I have to say, the guy is kind of a hoot. I disapprove, but you have to make allowances for holy fools.

        gothamette

        August 2, 2019 at 12:04 PM

    • “put his money where his jizz is.”

      gothamette, why are you not blogging?

      njguy73

      August 2, 2019 at 12:09 AM

      • Because I’m writing a book, which is more important than blogging.

        gothamette

        August 2, 2019 at 12:04 PM

      • “Because I’m writing a book, which is more important than blogging.”

        Tapping watch.

        Mike Street Station

        August 3, 2019 at 6:24 AM

      • This month is it. I mean it this time.

        gothamette

        August 3, 2019 at 12:38 PM

      • What’s your book about?

        destructure

        August 3, 2019 at 6:25 PM

  10. “If he had ever said anything “racist,” I’m sure the NY Times would have gone all out to highlight that.”

    “At one session at Harvard, Mr. Epstein criticized efforts to reduce starvation and provide health care to the poor because doing so increased the risk of overpopulation”

    Seems a little racist to me.

    BTW- I am calling BS on Pinker. Needs to be a warrant to search his home- he is way too sanctimonious in his current disavowals of Epstein.

    Lion of the Turambar

    August 1, 2019 at 1:57 PM

    • Pinker doesn’t have any kids, At least none from his wives (I think he was married twice).

      Frau Katze

      August 1, 2019 at 4:15 PM

      • three times

        Hallie Scott Kline

        August 1, 2019 at 8:18 PM

      • Pinker has been married 2x, no kids.

        Ari the Sperminator has been married zero times, has 38 kids so far.

        Something’s wrong widdat, no?

        gothamette

        August 2, 2019 at 7:13 AM

      • Ari has a taste for dark meat. Epstein doesn’t and he knows fathering the dark meats is a losing proposition.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        August 2, 2019 at 10:42 AM

      • There’s something kind of creepy about the Sperminator, too. IQ aside, the world does not need any more of that guy.

        https://nypost.com/2016/06/19/sperm-donor-that-sired-22-kids-has-a-wife-and-shes-not-happy/

        destructure

        August 2, 2019 at 7:22 PM

      • Pinker’s 3 wives:
        Nancy Etcoff
        Ilavenil Subbiah
        Rebecca Goldstein

        Hallie Scott Kline

        August 5, 2019 at 11:35 PM

    • “At one session at Harvard, Mr. Epstein criticized efforts to reduce starvation and provide health care to the poor because doing so increased the risk of overpopulation”

      Most likely he was talking about NAMs and not poor Whites. Poor Whites are able to churn hot looking shiksas for Epstein. NAMs do not.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      August 2, 2019 at 10:40 AM

      • Poor whites have white daughters, but almost 100% of them look like they are either on mcdonald’s or meth.

        It’s the rich, high IQ educated SWPLs who have non-obese, non-methface white daughters.

        SC

        August 3, 2019 at 8:57 AM

      • Poor whites have higher rates of obesity and drug abuse than SWPLs. But the gap isn’t big enough to make a claim like that. I have no doubt that you’re insecure and compensating. It probably stems from your mother having to work so hard to maintain a middle class lifestyle.

        destructure

        August 3, 2019 at 9:14 PM

      • Mind you, that there are SWPL women who become objects for racy material. But one can safely assume that fairly attractive porn stars come from prole families. Just like many cute nurses aren’t of SWPL extract, but prole upbringing.

        https://jl10ll.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/poor-pathetic-parenting-produces-promiscuous-pitiful-pornography-prototype/

        Epstein was able to lure young women with money as sex objects. Girls who come from prole families would be the most suggestible.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        August 3, 2019 at 9:48 PM

      • Or maybe you’re mixed? I’ve been running your comments past my mental database. And I haven’t found a white match. I think you might have some nasty in your gene pool.

        destructure

        August 3, 2019 at 10:36 PM

  11. I think Pinker is too careful. I didn’t even know he was associated with this, This comes from not following every Lion post.

    Frau Katze

    August 1, 2019 at 4:13 PM

  12. How is seeding the world with pedophiles Eugenic?

    DataExplorer

    August 1, 2019 at 10:35 PM

    • Is there any evidence Epstein is actually a pedophile? I mean a literal pedophile, not a man attracted to a sexually mature girl at a socially unacceptable age.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      August 2, 2019 at 9:31 AM

      • DataExplorer’s point still stands. Epstein is in no way eugenic. I’m not sure the Sperminator is, either. I consider eugenics to be a heck of a lot more than just IQ. Character counts. Otherwise, these devious fertility clinic doctors slipping their own fluids into the mix would be eugenic and I don’t think they are. Otherwise, you’d have a world full of psychopaths.

        destructure

        August 2, 2019 at 6:18 PM

    • How strong is the evidence that any of that is genetic?

      https://www.theonion.com/gay-gene-isolated-ostracized-1819564276

      Prenatal and early childhood environments are probably much bigger factors.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      August 2, 2019 at 3:14 PM

      • Of course gayness is genetic. Just like IQ.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 2, 2019 at 11:31 PM

      • The evidence that homosexuality is genetic is so strong that researchers have entirely given up on it and instead refer to epigenetics.

        Cochran’s pathogen theory still seems the strongest to me. But research into that will never be funded.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        August 3, 2019 at 10:13 AM

      • Oh, wow, The Onion from 1997. Different times.

        SlushFundPuppie

        August 3, 2019 at 11:17 AM

      • Homos have a strong genetic component. But it’s also triggered by environmental factors. That’s why identical twins have a higher concordance rate than fraternal twins. But they still don’t always have the same sexual orientation.

        destructure

        August 3, 2019 at 6:22 PM


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