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Women better than men in the bottom third of society

Comment from “SC”:

You underestimate how important it is that women are better than men in the bottom third of society.

An IQ 90, high C woman can still look after her own or someone else’s kids without killing them. An IQ 83, low C man is going to abuse or neglect those kids. An IQ 90, high C woman can still show up to her menial job every day, on time, for 20 years. An IQ 83, low C man might show up to work an hour late, drunk and high, and get into fights with his coworkers. To an employer she’s dependable and consistent. Furthermore, high A means she’s better at getting along with coworkers and customers.

Low IQ men have only one advantage over their female peers: physical strength. But with automation, men’s physical strength means less and less with each passing day. By 2100 we may find that men’s physical advantages mean almost nothing in daily life.

Then he adds:

… by age 20+ a lot of the low IQ boys have died from homicide, drugs, or drunk driving. Or they’re in prison and unable to be part of some IQ study.

SC assumes that women could have a 7-point IQ advantage over men at the bottom of society. I agree that women are smarter than men at the bottom of society, but I don’t know if it’s as high as 7 points (based on IQ having a standard deviation of 15 points). On the other hand, if the lowest-IQ males check out by being incarcerated or dead, then maybe we aren’t even measuring their IQs.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 31, 2019 at 5:28 PM

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  1. Construction jobs still require strength, and I don’t see how robots could take them over.

    Rosenmops

    August 31, 2019 at 5:53 PM

    • Who’s going to build the robots anyway? All the white people who were never born?

      Most people’s ideas about the future are idiotic, and fantasy-based. For the next few hundred years physical strength is going to be important, maybe more important than it is now.

      Lowe

      August 31, 2019 at 6:49 PM

    • Standardization of building practices will make construction workers largely obsolete. Granted, there will be a large market for bespoke construction for a long time. Given the ascendancy of communism it seems likely a lot more Soviet-style block housing populated by unending masses of third world immigrants will be in order.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      August 31, 2019 at 11:33 PM

      • “Standardization of building practices will make construction workers largely obsolete.”

        I can’t wait for Yakov’s take on this.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        September 3, 2019 at 1:10 PM

  2. This is actually a brilliant point. The bottom third of society is as important as the other two – maybe more in a way.

    @Rosenmops – I agree w/you that certain jobs will never be automated. When we will make a robot that can disengage my toilet tank, pick it up, and walk it down 4 flights of stairs?

    gothamette

    August 31, 2019 at 6:06 PM

    • Check out the latest from Boston Dynamics, or some other robotics company. They’re not quite they’re yet (robots are hard!) but they’ll get there eventually.

      ack-acking

      August 31, 2019 at 11:09 PM

      • I doubt that you’d ever get a robot who can get down on his hands and knees and wire the interior of a step riser so that you can read words spelled out in flashing lights.

        gothamette

        September 1, 2019 at 10:03 AM

      • I agree that robotics is hard. Good luck making those important breakthroughs in a 50% Muslim, 35% black world.

        Lowe

        September 3, 2019 at 11:38 PM

  3. What is “C,” for all us dunderheads who aren’t part of a secret society? If it stands for one word, you’re so busy that you can’t take the microsecond to spell it out?

    Hi C, Good to Drank

    August 31, 2019 at 6:13 PM

    • Conscientiousness. Get out of here, bro. This site is for alt-right only.

      Lowe

      August 31, 2019 at 6:52 PM

      • Don’t alienate him, Lowe. He might learn something here. Heck, he could learn A LOT here!

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        September 1, 2019 at 1:11 PM

    • The secret society consists of all of the people who used to read the HBD blogs ten or fifteen years ago. Lion has been on a retro HBD posting tear lately.

      Yoandri

      August 31, 2019 at 7:20 PM

      • I accidentally entered an HBD-style comment at Youtube. Well, not really accidental, but worded more strongly than usual.

        The guy on the vid said that anyone who thinks women aren’t as good at STEM as men is a bigot,

        As a female I thought this called for a response. Some of the replies showed great surprise. There was some plan afoot (in Australia, I think) to lower requirements for women to get more of them in STEM.

        A terrible idea.

        Frau Katze

        August 31, 2019 at 11:20 PM

      • The plan won’t work, women find STEM boring.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 1, 2019 at 7:20 AM

      • Crazy? Every university in the U.S. has lower standards for favored minorities and sexes. In Australia, they are just calling a spade a spade.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 1, 2019 at 8:26 AM

      • @Lion Don’t forget that both my sister and I worked in STEM our entire careers. Women weren’t all that unusual, although it definitely wasn’t anywhere close to 50%. But plenty of men avoided the area too.

        I would say that in both men and women, those without the ability to pass the courses found it “boring.”

        Lowering the requirements: you Americans would know more about that given the use of affirmative action for decades now. It was for race, but it still produced the same result: lower requirements for some people without the aptitude.

        What happens to these AA people? Do they manage to complete their degrees? I’ve seen very little information about it.

        Judging by the complaints from black activists, AA doesn’t work at getting blacks into STEM fields.

        I wonder if the current anger at the universities is related to the failure of AA. I am watching a series of videos on the Bret Weinstein affair at Evergreen. There are some extremely angry people.

        It’s not clear if they’re activists or people who couldn’t succeed at their courses. The guy doing the vids isn’t interviewing people.

        He doesn’t seem very effective as a filmmaker. He’s just putting together various of vids of people screaming and carrying on. But maybe no one is willing to be interviewed.

        Frau Katze

        September 1, 2019 at 8:14 AM

      • “Judging by the complaints from black activists, AA doesn’t work at getting blacks into STEM fields.”

        Why would a black want to major in a hard field like STEM when they can coast their way into anything else?

        That said, there are a few blacks in my IT department.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 1, 2019 at 8:28 AM

      • “The guy on the vid said that anyone who thinks women aren’t as good at STEM as men is a bigot,”

        Clyde Wilson figured this out years ago. Most debates these days are reputational debates. I’m not sure there’s a good response, aside from ‘are you referring to good bigotry or bad bigotry?’ Such a reply doesn’t do much, but it does signal your belief that the question can’t be reduced to at the moment cultural reputational enthusiasms.

        Curle

        September 1, 2019 at 12:22 PM

  4. 2100 seems to be a distant future. Dumb low IQ f#cks would have been died off by then, if humanity still has a purpose.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    August 31, 2019 at 6:15 PM

    • No. Both liberals and religious conservatives are doing everything they can to make sure low IQ men breed a ton before they get put in prison, and that low IQ women have housing and food for their kids, paid for by the taxpayer.

      What we need is an aggressive eugenics program. But you’ll never convince a liberal or a religious conservative to do that.

      SC

      August 31, 2019 at 7:11 PM

      • Maybe Andrew Yang should add mandatory sterilization to qualify for his UBI scheme.

        Mike Street Station

        September 1, 2019 at 8:13 AM

  5. SC is focusing on IQ and “C” while neglecting the much more common problem of mental illness. Nearly 1 in 3 have a mental illness. And women are much more likely to be mentally ill than men. The most common mental illness is depression and women are twice as likely to have it. I’ll bet SC has the sads. :“(

    destructure

    August 31, 2019 at 7:06 PM

    • There are other factors besides IQ when it comes to crime, violence and drugs. Men have testosterone and are more likely to act agressive and take risks. A man with high testosterone and a low IQ is a dangerous combination. Most low IQ women are harmless.

      Jay Fink

      August 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM

      • “Most low IQ women are harmless.”

        Like hell they are! Low IQ women ruin men’s lives all the time. And so do high IQ women.

        destructure

        September 1, 2019 at 6:36 AM

      • @destructive when I said harmless I meant when it comes to violent crime.

        Jay Fink

        September 1, 2019 at 3:23 PM

    • Telling comment from a prominent feminist about leading feminists and mental illness:

      “One chapter of Politically Incorrect Feminist deals with a particularly painful truth that Chesler has not previously written about: the high rates of mental illness among Second Wave feminists. Having written so critically of the tendency of doctors to pathologise female emotion, Chesler knows full well that such claims should not be thrown around lightly. When she writes of the madness of some of her fellow feminists, she knows what she’s talking about: “I don’t mean neurotic, difficult, anxious, or eccentric. I mean clinically schizophrenic or manic depressive, suicidal, addicted to drugs or alcohol, or afflicted with a personality disorder.” ”

      https://quillette.com/2019/06/20/how-a-feminist-prophet-became-an-apostate-an-interview-with-dr-phyllis-chesler/

      The well documented prevalence of mental illness in feminist luminaries is a topic deserving of greater publicity.

      Curle

      September 1, 2019 at 12:58 AM

  6. High A? Wymyn’s high A is the whole reason we’re in this pickle. If they were independent thinkers rather than cultists, this would be 1965 with computers.

    Jeez

    August 31, 2019 at 7:06 PM

    • High A is a good thing in the low-IQ part of the population. Low A in high IQ people is a necessary combination for scientific advancement.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 31, 2019 at 7:11 PM

      • Does “A” stand for Agreeableness? Sorry to come across as ignorant. Can’t help it. I’m a guidette.

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        August 31, 2019 at 11:25 PM

      • I agree with what Chief Spread Eagle said. If an acronym is common and obvious then fine. Otherwise, people need to spend the negligible amount of time it takes to spell some of these things out rather than spouting acronyms and single letters. After the word has been mentioned once in a discussion then, sure, use the acronym.

        destructure

        September 1, 2019 at 8:25 AM

      • PS: “Spread Eagle” is a Nom de Plume of someone who frequently changes their name. Leon needs to crack down on sock puppets.

        destructure

        September 1, 2019 at 10:00 AM

      • “I agree with what Chief Spread Eagle said”

        Oh, you mean CSE? ………………(just kidding!) This acronym thing gets annoying. Someone responded “ikr” on a Youtube comment I made and I’m still perplexed. Could this mean “I know, right?” as when someone agrees with you? Just Speculating. ……………….hey, that’s “JS!” But some acronymns you guess right away. It didn’t take me long to figure out what “BJ” was, given the context it was always used in!

        Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

        September 1, 2019 at 1:06 PM

      • I had a cringey moment. I replied to you with a reference to Spread Eagle’s comment because he’d made the same point you had. But he didn’t use that name on this post. He used ‘Hi C, Good to Drank’. I was worried you might not have realized what was going on and thought I was taking a cheap shot. I don’t mind being mean on purpose when someone deserves it. But being mean by accident when someone doesn’t makes me cringe.

        destructure

        September 1, 2019 at 3:23 PM

  7. “SC assumes that women could have a 7-point IQ advantage over men at the bottom of society. I agree that women are smarter than men at the bottom of society, but I don’t know if it’s as high as 7 points (based on IQ having a standard deviation of 15 points).”

    That sounds about right to me. All of the “world’s dumbest criminals” and similar massive screwups are almost all men.

    Men are better at producing scientists, engineers, and other “weird” jobs, but women are overall better suited for modern society.

    ack-acking

    August 31, 2019 at 9:10 PM

    • Have you seen what women do to themselves in modern society? Obesity, hideous tattoos, and a hundred different kinds of anti-depressant.

      Lowe

      August 31, 2019 at 10:45 PM

      • Plenty of fat men with bad tattoos in modern society, too. More of them, I’d say.

        ack-acking

        September 1, 2019 at 12:19 AM

      • Re to ack-ackin: “bad tattoos”? You know of some good ones? I get it that tattoos on native islanders, sailors, and marines aren’t bad, they’re natural tribal expressions, but on anyone else? This is a serious question. I’m open minded enough to judge a tattoo good, if shown one.

        Tattoo You

        September 1, 2019 at 12:22 PM

      • Getting fat or tatted up only reduces a man’s sexual value by some margin. It virtually destroys a woman’s. This is pretty obvious stuff.

        Lowe

        September 1, 2019 at 11:49 PM

      • “Re to ack-ackin: “bad tattoos”? You know of some good ones? I get it that tattoos on native islanders, sailors, and marines aren’t bad, they’re natural tribal expressions, but on anyone else? This is a serious question. I’m open minded enough to judge a tattoo good, if shown one.”

        Some very high quality ones when the wearer only has a single tattoo (usually on the back). It’s extremely rare that anyone has the discipline to only get one and only one tattoo, and to make the tattoo be very expensive. Maybe some high ranking Yakuza member’s kept woman. I’m not going to google that at work.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        September 3, 2019 at 1:19 PM

  8. I’ve often thought that the low-IQ population should be studied. It’s not a mirror image of the high IQ side (the bell curve is skewed). This because of various inherited conditions (like Down’s Syndrome) and accidents like oxygen deprivation at childbirth all reduce the IQ that the person would have had without the bad gene or accident.

    What fraction of the low-IQs are in this category and not just natural distribution about the mean?

    I suppose it doesn’t matter, except for efforts to prevent such situations.

    Frau Katze

    August 31, 2019 at 11:08 PM

  9. Women don’t mind, and in fact like, working for a man and being told what to do; or even fucked over. Men do not.

    It all goes back to the fundamental premise: “sperm cheap; eggs expensive.”

    A subservient woman will still be a genetic winner, attractive, and valuable. A subservient man is just being fucked over. A fucked over woman has kids; a fucked over man just takes it up the ass.

    fakeemail

    September 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM


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