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New York Times says the earth is NOT warming!

After examining climate data extending back nearly 100 years, a team of Government scientists has concluded that there has been no significant change in average temperatures or rainfall in the United States over that entire period.

While the nation’s weather in individual years or even for periods of years has been hotter or cooler and drier or wetter than in other periods, the new study shows that over the last century there has been no trend in one direction or another.

The study, made by scientists for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration was published in the current issue of Geophysical Research Letters. It is based on temperature and precipitation readings taken at weather stations around the country from 1895 to 1987.

Of course that was in 1989.

What happened since 1989? Did we make new discoveries in physics, like the discovery of DNA or something like that? Did we discover some new way to measure past temperatures? The answer is no, there were no new scientific discoveries. What happened is that global warming, which then became “climate change,” became like a religion. Everyone was forced to believe in it, or be banned from having their voices heard. Past temperature data was adjusted to show what everyone “knows” to be true, that the temperatures have been rising.

Climate change is just like the other big false belief, that there are no genetic difference in intelligence between races. To be skeptical about global warming has become almost as big of a taboo as talking about how blacks have lower IQ than whites.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 2, 2019 at 9:18 AM

Posted in Biology, Science

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  1. In a related story, Michael Mann loses his defamation suit against another scientist and is forced to pay court costs.

    At issue was Mann’s refusal to provide the data that lead to the creation of his infamous “hockey stick” graph. That graph was probably the ground zero of widespread climate change acceptance, and after all this time, no one knows how he parsed the data to create it.

    It’s an amazing scientific fraud that still goes on.

    Mike Street Station

    September 2, 2019 at 10:04 AM

    • I’d never heard of Tim Ball, so I looked him up. He wrote a book titled, The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science. Next I looked for the book at my nearby university libraries. Neither Berkeley nor Stanford has the book in its collections. Interesting.

      Department 11

      September 2, 2019 at 12:40 PM

      • By a copy and offer to donate it.


        September 2, 2019 at 7:59 PM

  2. But blacks don’t have lower IQ than whites!! You are basic this on the false and racist theory of racism. Although blacks never invented the wheel or a numbering system before the white man arrived, many blacks were brilliant athletes! And very good at dancing.

    It is the ignorance and hate of you white men that is keeping us down. We would have invented NASA otherwise.

    The Social Justice Warrior

    September 2, 2019 at 10:11 AM

    • Also, the Beatles stole all Rick James’ best songs.


      September 2, 2019 at 12:16 PM

      • Did you know all but ringo had heavy irish ancestry?


        September 2, 2019 at 2:01 PM

  3. “What happened since 1989? Did we make new discoveries in physics, like the discovery of DNA or something like that?”

    It seems like a lot of the major achievements in physics since then have been empirical confirmation of stuff that was already strongly established in theory: Higgs boson, dark matter, gravitational waves.

    In fact, you could argue that DNA itself was just a small piece of the puzzle in comparison with the theoretical framework built by Darwin, Mendel, Haldane, Fisher, etc. as Friedrich Miescher is not exactly a household name.

    Jokah Macpherson

    September 2, 2019 at 10:21 AM

    • Of course dark matter and dark energy were never theorized. They were just dreamed up to make existing theories continue to work. Perhaps when and if the gravitational field is successfully quantized then the need for them will go away.


      September 2, 2019 at 8:23 PM

  4. “What happened since 1989?”

    The population increased.

    The country is far too big to be operating as a nominal republic and the larger we get the more this is true. We have an overclass who make all the important decisions. Lincoln got his wish.


    September 2, 2019 at 10:22 AM

    • What wish are you referring to?


      September 2, 2019 at 10:59 AM

      • To replace the Republic with an Hamiltonian finance kleptocracy.


        September 2, 2019 at 8:02 PM

  5. “What happened since 1989?”

    Uh, Lion, ever heard of the Rise of China? Also, now is not 30 years ago; temperatures in the USA have risen substantially since then: Both atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration and the rate of increase of it are substantially higher than in 1989. I expected better of you.

    That the races are manifestly unequal in their genetically determined intelligence and that the release of dozens of gigatons of carbon dioxide each year into the atmosphere from fossil sources is sufficient to raise world temperatures are both very obvious facts about the world. Denying either is folly.


    September 2, 2019 at 11:33 AM

    • So the how come you’re asking anyone beyond the Chinese to sign a climate accord?

      You know me

      September 2, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    • No evidence that the amount of CO2 we’ve added to atmosphere could account for the amount of global warming we have seen.


      September 2, 2019 at 8:25 PM

    • There has been no global warming. And none of the hurricanes, wildfires, sea level rise has become reality either. Padre Island along the Texas Gulf Coast should have already become the world’s longest sand bar.

      There is a lull in the sun spot cycle which actually indicates cooling. Too bad the media was happy to report the record heat in Europe but not the record lows in between.


      September 3, 2019 at 11:36 AM

      • “There has been no global warming.”

        There obviously has been, starting in 1980, when CO2 emissions were 20 gigatons per year. Today, they are 35 gigatons per year. Global warming will continue for the next two hundred or so years, barring any unforeseen revolutionary technologies.


        September 3, 2019 at 1:44 PM

  6. When did denying man made climate change become a conservative shibboleth? It’s the equivalent of denying that black men commit.more crime on the left.

    For it to work, you have to believe that there’s a conspiracy – of poor, precarious adjunct professors and post grads. Against the behemoths that run the oil industry. Grow up.


    September 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    • The guys who run the oil industry are normal-sized, usually around 5’11 1/2”. It’s all in The Prize.


      September 2, 2019 at 12:47 PM

    • If you don’t like the word conspiracy, then you can call it a trend. But just try to work in academia in an area such as social work if you have a conservative outlook. When a certain idea or set of ideas becomes the orthodoxy of the power elite, it cannot be questioned or even investigated, it must be supported. Scientists complain of this all the time. They say you can’t have advances till the old guard croaks. I have no idea whether climate change exists as some say, but neither do dopey reporters or most undergrads. I do know that there is no strong public service campaign clearly outline what each of us can and should do to be part of the solution, so apparently no one knows what to do about it. Personally, I think that the near total lack of a call to action pretty much shows that those who claim to believe it really don’t. The borders of developed countries would be lined with landmines to keep out any would be newcomers who are coming here so they can have lifestyles that require 100x the amount of energy that they currently use. There would be calls to end economic growth, and they would be pushing some new economic model. As it is, they are pushing immigration and development for the less developed countries which is exactly the opposite of the kind of one child policy Africans need. We should export exactly one thing to countries with high birthrates, birth control. No food, no medicine, no tech, just birth control. They can respond to incentives like everyone else. There is no way to reduce consumption with the kind of population growth we see in places like Africa and some of the backward islamic holes.

      not too late

      September 2, 2019 at 1:17 PM

      • “Personally, I think that the near total lack of a call to action pretty much shows that those who claim to believe it really don’t.”

        There was something similar during the cold war, people believed that there was a non-trivial probability of nuclear annihilation, but didn’t act on those beliefs on an individual level:

        Should we then conclude that they didn’t really believe the bomb existed? No, it’s that humans are bad at long-term, abstract threat processing. Tell someone their water is not safe to drink, and they will respond with more-or-less rational investigation into the problem, because it’s a clear, present danger. Tell someone their house will be flooded in forty years and they’re likely to say “meh.” Humans did not evolve with science as a method to help us discover truth. We evolved to deal with various kinds of tricksters who knew nothing about the future, and the easiest way to deal with them was often to say we believed in their powers but privately behave as if we didn’t. The easiest way to do this convincingly is to make the process subconscious.

        Alexander Turok

        September 2, 2019 at 3:22 PM

      • I am not talking about the public. I am talking about the Al Gore’s out there, andd those who allegedly have a handle on this. They don’t suggest what folks should do.

        not too late

        September 2, 2019 at 6:25 PM

      • Climate change is a collective action problem. Worse, most solutions require that we bear costs now without ever getting to realize the biggest future benefits. Can fragile apes curb their own consumption to benefit future generations? Maybe the Norwegians possess the discipline and morality. Hell, they view their oil wealth as belonging to future generations. But Americans? So many are too fat, too stupid, and too self-centered. When it comes to Alaska, we’re saying “drill, baby, drill.”


        September 2, 2019 at 6:44 PM

      • Vince, your comment is a perfect example of the kind of BS that makes people just say screw it, I don’t care. It is a bunch of vague virtue signaling combined with insults. Reasonable thoughtful people who admit that they don’t know everything, but do want to be part of the solution, ask what should be done, and all they get are insults and some elaborate scheme to take their money and give it to fast breeding third worlders. Yeah, no thank you very much.

        not too late

        September 3, 2019 at 9:41 PM

    • Jesse — The northern hemisphere was once covered by vast glaciers 2 to 2.5 miles thick. They started receding almost 20,000 years ago and it’s been slowly warming ever since. What makes you think people living today are causing something that started almost 20,000 years ago?


      September 2, 2019 at 5:17 PM

  7. “What happened is that global warming, which then became “climate change,” became like a religion.”

    Don’t forget that it was global cooling or a “new ice age” back in the 70s.


    September 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    • I distinctly remember the media chatter about global cooling. It kicked into high gear after the super blizzard of 77′, which I remember well. Magazines like Time and Newsweek did cover stories, and even my favorite show as a child, “In Search Of “, hosted by Leonard Nimoy, had an episode about the new Ice Age.
      Then, by about 80′, the new Ice Age took a back seat to the new environmental menace… Acid Rain.
      Acid Rain was going to be the end of everything, but then that inevitably petered out in the late 80’s to be replaced by Global Warming, which stuck, and morphed seamlessly into Climate Change.


      September 2, 2019 at 6:39 PM

      • You just summed up Alan Cranston’s presidential campaign and the policy agenda of Physicians for Social Responsibility. Anyone else recall how this group suddenly appeared out of nowhere and got themselves inserted into almost every chin scratching MSM concern piece during the 12 years of Reagan & Bush then disappeared during the Clinton Administration as stealthily as they appeared.

        I always wondered who was paying their bills.

        Also, anyone else remember how homelessness as a news item suddenly appeared as a major concern under Reagan and disappeared just as quickly under Clinton.


        September 2, 2019 at 8:27 PM

      • You forgot about the ozone layer, which came between acid rain and global warming.


        September 2, 2019 at 8:29 PM

      • Yep, I remember a “very special episode” of Diffrent Strokes where Kimberly washed her hair with acid rain and it turned. . .GREEN!

        And I remember an episode of Family Ties where Jennifer takes an ecology class and freaks out about global warming and the ozone and needs to see a counselor!

        Fucking TV; wish I could erase it from my brain!


        September 3, 2019 at 9:55 AM

      • Acid rain became less of a problem when the govt stepped in. It didn’t just magically go away. You have NO CLUE how much work went into writing new regs to prevent it and in giving new laws actual teeth to enforce them. The hole in the ozone was a huge problem, but the govt and the faceless bureaucrats stepped in and it started to get smaller.

        Huh. It’s almost like govt action can be good and bureaucrats know what they’re doing.


        September 3, 2019 at 10:37 AM

  8. OT: I’m always impressed by what good press Leftism gets.

    A typical “moderate” liberal on socialism: “Socialism doesn’t work. It is an incredibly naive system based on the assumption that human beings–the most selfish and self-centered animals on Earth–will do the right thing for the right reason, for no greater reward than feeling good about it. The Soviet Union was the biggest experiment in socialism of the Twentieth Century, and it failed.”

    I assume the implication is that it failed UNFORTUNATELY given how noble the ideals are.

    People are fucking idiots.


    September 2, 2019 at 11:53 AM

    • On the other hand, we’d have far fewer problems today if those moderate liberals had just been listened to by the fucking idiots in their own camp. The best example I can cite is the writers at The New Republic in the late 1980’s. They once had an editorial which asserted, “most racism is classism.” That is a huge idea. In other words, nobody cares about skin color, and if blacks could just be persuaded to adopt middle-class manners/values, they wouldn’t face any “discrimination.” Of course, it never got picked up.


      September 2, 2019 at 12:54 PM

      • “In other words, nobody cares about skin color, and if blacks could just be persuaded to adopt middle-class manners/values,“

        Whites and Asians with an IQ <85 have a tough go of it. Lucky for them they are absorbed into an ethnic cohort where the majority of their group is much smarter and can set a good example and protect them somewhat. Not so for blacks.

        It pays to be in a group with a higher average IQ as the Hive Mind has shown.


        September 2, 2019 at 10:44 PM

    • A typical “moderate” liberal on socialism

      Part of the problem is that Americans don’t have a clue what socialism is, even on the “left”. The Soviet Union was not socialism – it was a Bolshevik dictatorship trying to build Communism. The Bolsheviks killed Socialists after they took power.

      Socialism does not assume people will do the right thing for the right reason. It assumes that the free market creates winners and losers, and that a well functioning society needs to protect the losers and create a more even playing field.

      “Socialism” is public schools, minimum wage guarantees or the Canadian health care system. Hell, Medicare is “socialism.” Socialism is the basic economic structure in places like Austria, Finland and Denmark. Socialism arguably does work, at least in countries with a higher IQ population. It is certainly a more pleasant way to live, for the majority of the population, than a capitalist oligarchy like the US. The rewards for the ambitious are far fewer, on the other hand.

      Peter Akuleyev

      September 3, 2019 at 2:52 AM

      • “…The Soviet Union was not socialism – it was a Bolshevik dictatorship trying to build Communism. The Bolsheviks killed Socialists after they took power.”

        Oh for Christ’s Sake, another “socialism has never been tried” harpie?

        At this point in our history, that word should probably be banned in our political discussions since when it’s used, it just means to give me free stuff.

        Mike Street Station

        September 7, 2019 at 8:42 AM

  9. “What happened since 1989? …”

    Thirty more years of data.

    James B. Shearer

    September 2, 2019 at 12:11 PM

    • So, why no PR campaign promoting solutions? Why are we promoting development in undeveloped places? Where is the sound campaign for enlisting public support? These lefties all have psychology or marketing degrees but can’t figure out that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? They can’t think of any enticements? All they have is the hammer to bash anyone who just asks for some info. I remember when this was kind of new, and I would ask on forums about it. The response was just that I was scum too stupid to understand. If that is how polite questions are treated, hell no, you won’t get folks on board.

      not too late

      September 2, 2019 at 1:27 PM

      • “So, why no PR campaign promoting solutions? …”

        There is an immense amount of propaganda promoting various ‘solutions’ (many of dubious efficacy).

        James B. Shearer

        September 2, 2019 at 4:58 PM

      • “There is an immense amount of propaganda promoting various ‘solutions’ (many of dubious efficacy).”

        No, not really, no.

        I haven’t seen anyone saying what will effective and how we are supposed to participate. Everything now is ultra high energy use. Single serving containers of everything. When I was in school, the only thing disposable at lunch was the napkin and the milk carton. The cafeteria ladies washed the plates and silverware. One school didn’t even have milk cartons. You got a cup for your milk and the ladies washed it. We used less energy per person then vs. now by just not gratuitously wasting energy.

        not too late

        September 3, 2019 at 9:58 PM

      • “No, not really, no.”

        “I haven’t seen anyone saying what will effective and how we are supposed to participate. …”

        Are you serious? The propaganda is pervasive. To give just a few examples.

        New Jersey is now subsidizing nuclear power plants as carbon free.

        Many states have renewable energy targets for electrical utilities which have the effect of pushing wind and solar panel generation (including rooftop solar).

        There is a large effort to reduce demand for electricity (rather than install more generating capacity) by such means as LED lighting and efficiency standards for appliances like refrigerators and air conditioners.

        Mileage standards for new cars. Subsidies for electric cars.

        As I said much of this stuff is of dubious merit but it certainly exists.

        James B. Shearer

        September 4, 2019 at 5:06 PM

  10. Two months after this piece ran, the Exxon Valdez ran aground.


    September 2, 2019 at 12:52 PM

  11. Climate change is a real thing and it depresses the hell out of me. I want shorelines to stay where they are. I want fields, meadows, forests, mountains, kettle ponds, lakes, moraines, sandbars, valleys, deserts, cranberry bogs, rivers, streams, creeks, sloughs, arms, estuaries, ismuths, bays, capes, heads, rocks, chasms, glaciers, guano deposits, islands, and continents to stay exactly the way they are. So I can see them before I die.


    September 2, 2019 at 1:23 PM

    • The conservationists used to be against population growth, then they got paid off. Wall Street is evil.


      September 2, 2019 at 10:48 PM

      • They could have told Wall Street to push off. You know, courage of convictions and all. But no, too short-sighted.

        not too late

        September 3, 2019 at 10:00 PM

  12. What happened since 1989? More temperature data, but if the data between 1880 and 1989 doesn’t show evidence of global warming, then you are saying we can safely ignore the data between 1989 and 2019 that does?

    This is all tribalism. If you are a member of the Trump/Conservative tribe, you have to deny global warming.

    Lion has managed to move past the anti-abortion stance of his tribe, but he is still stuck on global warming.


    September 2, 2019 at 2:17 PM

    • Land temperatures are measuring the urban heat island effect. Terrestrial measurements must be corrected — yes, that is the term used by AWG hoaxers: “corrected” — and corrected downward because, if they were not, they would show immense warming that nobody would believe. Weather stations that were once in a meadow are now in a suburb, weather stations once in a suburb are now in a parking lot. GIGO. They are measuring urbanization, not temperatures. Satellite measurements show minimal, insignificant warming of the atmosphere over the last 40 years.


      September 2, 2019 at 3:24 PM

    • What we conservatives “have to do” is be empiricists. It’s our dna. It’s like being gay – facts over feelings, we can’t help it. Besides, the people on your side have been wrong, empirically, on every big public issue of the last 70 years, so why would any rational person credit you? It would be like hiring a football coach who believes in running the fullback up the middle 30 times a game.


      September 2, 2019 at 3:40 PM

      • the people on your side

        See, you are still stuck in the tribalist mode of thinking. Dismissing evidence because it comes from someone you are mentally putting in a box. You are not acting like an empiricist.

        Peter Akuleyev

        September 3, 2019 at 2:31 AM

    • The warming is a fact like the difference of IQ between ethnic groups and individuals. The trend of the global warning – a short period of warming in a very cold period (quaternary) or a new period is a bit more speculative (like are the individual differences within and between groups due to the same factors).

      And then, the question about the nature of the cause, if it is human based is entirely speculative like the environement/genetic debate.

      The consensus is more on « human made » but I haven’t invested time enough in this to have an idea of the respective merits. But it’s not a pire moral question like abortion. It’s a scientific question with huge political consequences and vested interests, like the environement/genetic debate. And it has consequences on human values too.


      September 2, 2019 at 3:52 PM

    • The Obamas just purchased a 15 Million $$$ BEACHFRONT mansion. That tells you all you need to know about the global warming hoax. When the elites start acting like the seas really are rising and the planet is really warming, maybe i’ll change my mind. But as long as they all still buy beachfront mansions, fly carbon dioxide spewing private jets around the world and generally use about 100 times the energy of the average person, I’ll pass on the warming hysteria.


      September 2, 2019 at 4:22 PM

      • Obama’s actions only tell you that most of our elites are selfish and perhaps not all that smart. Why do you think the elites know anything? Scientists present facts and then elites twist those facts to their own ends. It is an unfortunate fact, tragedy more likely, that the elites who have grabbed on to climate change as a cause are trying to instrumentalize a catastrophe for their own ends – more state control, globalization, etc. A real answer to climate change would require investing in nuclear power, restricting immigration to developed countries, population control measures in Africa, and probably installing colonial governments in shithole countries that can’t govern themselves properly. Unfortunately that agenda seems to fit no politician’s short term plans, and so we stumble on into extinction.

        Peter Akuleyev

        September 3, 2019 at 2:59 AM

    • MikeCA with the usual Leftist shilling. People on the right have a wide range of opinions about global warming, with a wide range of analysis of the data. It’s only on the Left side of the spectrum where the conclusions are predetermined and orthodoxy is unquestionable.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      September 2, 2019 at 4:39 PM

    • You guys are so behind the curve. The latest in global warming denial is to admit global warming is real and caused by human CO2 emissions, but no big deal. Warming is good. Nothing to worry about.

      Well, unless you happen to live near the coast.


      September 3, 2019 at 12:37 AM

      • MikeCA —

        Obama just bought a beautiful estate for himself on Martha’s Vineyard, an island 20 miles out in the Atlantic. It turns out that Obama’s actual opinion is that global warming is no big deal.

        If Obama is safe out on Martha’s Vineyard, I think the rest of us are safe everywhere else.

        On the topic of what the Obamas really believe, somebody needs to tell Michael Moore about the Obama’s philosophy in which the wife stays at home raising the kids while supporting her husband’s career. Then Moore can stop expecting Michelle to run against Trump in 2020, because in the Obama’s world, such a thing just isn’t done.


        September 3, 2019 at 9:36 AM

      • Obama could have set an example by buying a vacation home in the Catskills, but that wouldn’t have been as fun for him, because all the other cool liberal rich people and the best parties are on Marthra’s Vineyard.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 3, 2019 at 10:10 AM

      • Even NASA has admitted that the earth is greening in some areas of the world. There are more trees now than there were 30 years ago with some turd world places working to do better. Now if they could do something about their plastic waste streams ending up in the ocean.


        September 3, 2019 at 11:48 AM

      • “Obama just bought a beautiful estate for himself on Martha’s Vineyard, an island 20 miles out in the Atlantic. It turns out that Obama’s actual opinion is that global warming is no big deal.”

        I got the address of this estate and checked on some of the maps that show what land will be underwater for a given sea level rise. This estate is apparently on some bluffs. It looks like sea level rise would have to be around 10 feet to start to cause problems for this house. People usually talk about 2 feet of sea level rise by 2100 although there are alarmists who suggest some run away processes that could get to 10 feet rise by 2100.

        Realistically, the Obama’s are worried about the next 20 to 30 years, and it is unlikely we will see more than 1 foot or so rise in the next 20 years. The sea level now is about 7 in higher than in 1900 but the rate of rise seems to be accelerating.


        September 4, 2019 at 12:25 PM

  13. Ok. I’m sold.

    Now that we know climate change isn’t real, should G7 put any pressure on Brazil to protect the Amazon? Does the outside world have ANY right to dictate Brazil on what it wants to do with the Amazon?

    I’m all for ripping up the Paris accord and let each country handle on its own what it wants to regarding emissions, conservation and natural resources.


    September 2, 2019 at 3:45 PM

    • “Does the outside world have ANY right to dictate Brazil on what it wants to do with the Amazon?”

      Do Brazilian farmers have any right to burn down the forests where primitive Amazon tribes have lived for thousands of years?


      September 2, 2019 at 5:31 PM

      • Depends. Are they Amazonian Supremacists? Do they want to be inclusive? Multi-tribal?


        September 2, 2019 at 10:52 PM

    • The amazon should be protected for the same reason the metropolitan museum should be. It is a treasure of humanity.

      A lesser known rainforest, which remains untouched and partially unexplored, lies in northeast india. That should be protected as well.There’s nowhere else on earth you can raze for a soy crop (thank you vegans) or a walmart?

      OT I have joined the ranks of classic WoW. It is brilliant!! Do it guys.


      September 2, 2019 at 7:36 PM

      • I played WoW 10 years ago, so I don’t think I need to re-experience it right now.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 2, 2019 at 7:40 PM

      • “The amazon should be protected”

        No. It should be packed to the rafters with sub-Saharan refugees. We can’t let a single low functioning group of people anywhere suffer the consequences of bad culture, low IQ and overpopulation alone. We all must join in suffering with them. It’s the American Way.


        September 2, 2019 at 10:58 PM

  14. Kate Steinle’s murderer was just freed on a technicality.

    Too bad he didn’t kill a seal. He’d probably still be in jail now.


    September 2, 2019 at 6:52 PM

    • If we had burned down the amazon around ‘00, all the Mexican emigrants could have had beautiful condo villages down there in a climate they were used to, we in the U.S. would still be able to drive to the beach in 30 min., and Kate Steinbeck’s would be alive.

      Alonzo Portfolio

      September 2, 2019 at 8:32 PM

  15. Now the link says Document Not Found.

    Did the NYTimes, avid readers of your blog, discover something that they needed to erase from their own records?


    September 2, 2019 at 10:48 PM

  16. “Acid rain became less of a problem when the govt stepped in. It didn’t just magically go away. You have NO CLUE how much work went into writing new regs to prevent it and in giving new laws actual teeth to enforce them. The hole in the ozone was a huge problem, but the govt and the faceless bureaucrats stepped in and it started to get smaller.”



    September 3, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    • As far as I can discern, people just stopped talking about acid rain and the ozone layer because global warming became the big issue and people forgot about everything else they used to worry about.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM

  17. I don’t think well-poisoning by implication (“They said X 30 years ago and then the issue got politicized and now they say Y, so let’s completely disregard Y”) is helpful or productive. One can accept that AGW is a real phenomenon, which it is unless CO2 isn’t a greenhouse gas or CO2 concentrations actually haven’t risen in the last century, and that it could potentially cause significant problems in the future, while being rightly skeptical of claims of imminent catastrophe, to say nothing of the unworkable or counterproductive solutions promoted by the catastrophists

    Georgia Resident

    September 9, 2019 at 1:26 PM

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