Lion of the Blogosphere

This isn’t funny

I totally don’t get this Slate article insisting that new comedy is funnier than old comedy. And the author disses The Muppet Show, which I think is funnier than just about anything I’ve seen recently.

The only modern TV series cited by the author as being great comedy, that I have watched, is Russian Doll. I found that series amusing and enjoyable, but certainly not hilariously funny. Not like the later seasons of Sanford & Son when Redd Foxx was in a comedic groove (but the first season isn’t as funny). And Redd Foxx wasn’t even Jewish. Seinfeld was the last funny TV series. (Or at least, the last funny TV series that I’ve watched.) Everything post-Seinfeld is merely amusing.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 17, 2019 at 11:47 AM

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  1. I thought Always Sunny, at its peak, was close to Seinfeld. Plenty of hilarious moments. It was also sort of set up to be the “new Seinfeld” — Dennis as Jerry, Mac as George, Charlie/Frank as Kramer, Dee as Elaine. No learning, no hugging. But now they ruined it by having Mac become gay and to go on a process of learning and hugging.

    But agree about Russian Doll, wouldn’t even consider it comedy, though it was entertaining.

    Wency

    September 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM

    • Hard +1 on Always Sunny.

      Horace Pinker

      September 17, 2019 at 9:18 PM

    • Funny show, but in a guilty way. I couldn’t take more than two seasons of that show. Hilarious moments, but overall it was deeply disturbing. It’s what atheism and east coast liberalism looks like while gaslighting as a comedy. Its subject matter was often times too foreboding, self absorbed, black, and nihilistic. A sign of the times that shouldn’t be considered too funny. A show like that never would have been developed during the pre Millennial era.

      Lord Boot Straps

      September 18, 2019 at 3:19 AM

  2. I only like Seinfeld not because it’s funny, but the Jewishness of the show in a Manhattan setting. It’s merely funny as in a Jewish intellectual funny. Seinfeld is also a testament that Jews dominate the significant parts of Manhattan, independently of White gentiles who think they also have a stake at it. It’s a good or bad thing depending on whom you are asking.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    September 17, 2019 at 12:15 PM

    • My favorite Seinfeld scene was at the Jewish bakery. It isn’t funny, but good, because I like chocolate babka,

      Any local bakery that sells babka is rarely not Jewish.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      September 17, 2019 at 1:02 PM

    • You’ve really missed it here. Seinfeld was funny because of its universalism – very little specifically Jewish. E.g., the exclamation points!! bit with Elaine and boyfriend. Describes gentile women everywhere. Same for Political correctness (scandalous to say ‘Peace pipe’ in front of Native American). The importance of a man’s hair (“I’m sorry George, but it’s true.”). Ridiculousness of business (Krueger industrial smoothing; “you’re not Penske material”). All universal.

      Vipltd

      September 17, 2019 at 2:16 PM

      • The mannerism in Seinfeld isn’t very American or White. It’s NYC Jewish. I don’t watch it for the laughs, but from the perspective of an anthropologist studying a cultural group’s mannerisms, habits and speech. And no, White gentiles generally do not display the kind of mannerisms that you see in Seinfeld, maybe with their closely related cousins, the Italians and Greeks, but its not about them. The neuroticism, the biting and sarcastic humor, which most White gentiles find alien or foreign.

        How many Jewish postal carriers like Newman do you see in real life congregating in an Upper West Side apartment with other Jews, and circle jerk about life’s BS? Only in Seinfeld.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 17, 2019 at 2:59 PM

      • Sanford & Son is very funny, even though no middle class whites act like Sanford and his son.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 3:57 PM

      • Hey anthropologist, what’s your opinion of this family’s mannerisms?

        Yakov

        September 17, 2019 at 4:40 PM

      • Forget about sitcoms. I think the whole idea of drawing comedy in a residence or bar setting (such as Cheers) was and is still kitsch.

        Nothing beats a few heavy laughs with low brow comedy like the omega males of yesteryear in black n white, namely Laurel n Hardy and the 3 Stooges.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 17, 2019 at 10:34 PM

      • Cheers is a classic sitcom. And sometimes, even very funny.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 11:36 PM

      • @Ok, what, who’s this again?

        Spending my entire life in Northern New Jersey, I consider Seinfeld the epitome of white American behavior. I have a feeling I would feel out of place in Wisconsin or some such.

        ScarletNumber

        September 17, 2019 at 11:43 PM

      • Either your Joisey roots is Italian or Jewish.

        Friends is more “White” than Seinfeld. Seinfeld is very ethnically Jewish, although Southern European Americans like Italians could identify with the mannerisms more easily in Seinfeld than let’s say the Irish. And the Irish stink with food. They’re not food oriented like the Italians and Jews. Seinfeld is very food oriented. There’s quite a number of scenes at the Chinese restaurant, Kramer making a feta cheese tomato omelette, a few others, and my favorite, at the Jewish bakery.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 18, 2019 at 9:40 AM

      • Yakov – I think the dark features among Southern Europeans like the Franco family are attractive.

        I don’t really get too hot with blonde shiksas. Brunettes are much more attractive.

        And HBD has never analyzed the Northern European/Southern European behavioral differences. Jews clearly belong in the category of the Southern European type with their shrewd behavior, despite living in the Northern areas of Europe and Russia.

        Wonder Bread Anti-Semites would hate Spanish and Italians with a passion, if they weren’t Catholic.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 18, 2019 at 9:50 AM

  3. By coincidence, I just received an email about old Hollywood Squares questions.

    “Paul, what’s a good reason for pounding meat?”

    “Loneliness.”

    Marty

    September 17, 2019 at 12:15 PM

    • Paul Lynde was hilarious!

      A gay before his time!

      gothamette

      September 17, 2019 at 3:33 PM

      • On the same trip through the South in 1978, I met Paul Lynde, Ted Turner, and Paula Jones.

        Marty

        September 17, 2019 at 4:36 PM

      • “On the same trip through the South in 1978, I met Paul Lynde, Ted Turner, and Paula Jones.”

        That sounds like movie material.

        Mike Street Station

        September 18, 2019 at 6:11 AM

      • @Marty,

        In the same room?

        gothamette

        September 18, 2019 at 10:29 AM

      • in the same room?

        No. Lynde at the Dallas Hyatt Regency, Jones at a wacky bar in Little Rock, and Turner in the stands of Fulton County stadium in Atlanta.

        Marty

        September 18, 2019 at 8:41 PM

      • Oh man, you almost had me sold on that movie. Paul Lynde, Ted Turner and Paula Jones in a threesome!

        gothamette

        September 19, 2019 at 8:59 AM

  4. I found russian doll unwatchably horrible. Funny my 16 year old was just talking to me about RD last night.

    Catastrophe on prime was hilarious, if dark and occasionally raunchy. I believe this was carrie fisher’s last role.

    I *would* agree some animated movies and series are much funnier than the fodder of yesteryear. For example:

    Secret Lives of Pets

    Wreck it Ralph

    Barbie and the Dreamhouse series (this is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen)

    We Bare Bears

    are all quite funny.

    toomanymice

    September 17, 2019 at 12:26 PM

  5. Lion:

    Seinfeld was funny, at least compared to Friends, which was not saying a lot. It seems your world ended in the 90s. (wow). The last LOL tv show I watched was the Office or One Punch Man (anime)…others have “funny movements”…like Orange is the New Black or Shameless, but…not hysterical. Chappelle show was great, but that was a decade ago.

    GrassMudHorse

    September 17, 2019 at 12:30 PM

    • I have watched Orange is the New Black. Amusing, not laugh-out-loud funny. I guess I didn’t feel compelled to keep watching, I stopped in the 2nd season, I think.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM

      • Agreed. I think comedy is primarily cultural unless it is slapstick, at some point this type of media is geared toward folks that are no longer in your generation, and the further it gets away, and if you have no anchor to keep you current (young wife, kids) then…it’s not going to be funny to you anymore, because you won’t “get it”.
        To be fair though most shows now that get a lot of acclaim are no longer pure comedy. It’s a mix of drama/comedy…which is odd, but works, but I think it serves to limit the dramatic and the comedic aspects.

        GrassMudHorse

        September 17, 2019 at 12:40 PM

      • Dramedy seems to come and go, but it has some momentum right now and I enjoy it.

        Orville is probably the best dramedy we’ve seen for some time. I find it harder and harder to get invested in dreary sci-fi settings with setups that I find preposterous. It helps if the creators acknowledge that their setting is sort of preposterous and have fun with it while still semi-seriously exploring ideas, rather than styling themselves to be somber philosopher-artists.

        Wency

        September 17, 2019 at 12:56 PM

      • Oh yeah, The Orville is great dramedy! And occasionally even laugh-out-loud funny.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 2:24 PM

    • Seinfeld was being Jewish in SWPL-fied Manhattan, while Friends is just a precursor to White SWPLness in Manhattan, both in a comedic setting.

      It’s quite interesting that you brought these two shows up in comparison, given that Jews have a dual/distinct identity that are not given to White gentiles, when proximity to SWPLness is in effect.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      September 17, 2019 at 1:23 PM

  6. My show was the first three or four years of Frasier, before it became totally gheyed out.

    I always thought Lilith was a very sympathetic character. I loved the fact that she was Jewish and gorgeous (at least, not in close-ups).

    gothamette

    September 17, 2019 at 12:52 PM

  7. Steve Sailer mentioned that he is a fan of the British sitcom ‘Peep Show’. You should watch this, Lion, and have your faith in comedy restored. If Steve can handle the Britishisms then it should be no problem for a cosmopolitan chap like you.

    prolier than thou

    September 17, 2019 at 12:52 PM

    • Oh my God yes, Peep Show is brilliant at satirizing postmodern nihilism. Even if it gets extremely cringeworthy.

      A Dilettante

      September 17, 2019 at 3:24 PM

      • You see, Lion. Your readers are ahead of you on this one. You should watch it and review it. It’s hilarious. Once you start watching, you’ll probably want to binge watch the entire run.

        prolier than thou

        September 17, 2019 at 5:37 PM

      • Well eating a dog has put me off Peep Show entirely, I feel a bit ill.

        Rosenmops

        September 21, 2019 at 2:07 AM

  8. The reviewer seems to think that if you can swear in a comedy, that makes it funnier than say The Bob Newhart Show, which had to try harder without blue language. Nor would I classify “Barry” as a comedy. “Dallas” had moments of humor too. Does that make it a comedy?

    Brendan

    September 17, 2019 at 1:22 PM

  9. Peoples’ taste in humor change over time. Which is both understandable and appropriate. For example, when I was 12 and 13 years old I found Dead Baby Jokes hysterically funny. Today, as an adult, I now understand that an infant’s death is absolutely NOT funny is a never an appropriate subject for humor.

    By the way, what’s the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls? You can’t unload the bowling balls with a pitchfork.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    September 17, 2019 at 1:53 PM

  10. O/t – This isn’t funny. Orthodox Jewish Math professor at Pace University was forced out by an Eastern Asiatic-(Professor Sing So) head of the department, who wants a younger more energetic staff for lower pay, and now he’s suing the school.

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/12/jewish-ex-professor-sues-pace-university-for-being-pushed-out-of-job/

    Who cares about Pace University? It’s just another vocational-based learning center that attracts many Chinese students.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    September 17, 2019 at 2:09 PM

    • I have some guido relatives who graduated from Pace. So I guess I’m confirming your view of the place!

      Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

      September 17, 2019 at 7:41 PM

    • Didn’t the Jewish prof have a union or faculty association to protect him? Or did he do something politically incorrect?

      Rosenmops

      September 21, 2019 at 2:10 AM

  11. I agree with Lion that I totally didn’t get the article. In all likelihood, the author didn’t know what the point was either; probably got commissioned to write about the Shane Gillis firing, and still didn’t know what to say. However on comedy, for me the final analysis has to be that it’s funny and makes me laugh, and that doesn’t describe much of what is called comedy these days.

    For example, the recent Dave Chappelle special is..interesting and thought provoking, but funny? I think I laughed twice. That’s a poor ratio for an entire comedy special. As far as sitcoms go, there have been some the past few years that I really did think were funny.

    It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia- agree with Wency on this one, the early seasons.
    Community
    30 Rock

    and most recently The Kids are All right, which ran this past season and was cancelled, but I thought was great; a cross between Malcolm in the Middle and The Wonder Years.

    Mike Street Station

    September 17, 2019 at 2:23 PM

    • “For example, the recent Dave Chappelle special is..interesting and thought provoking, but funny? I think I laughed twice. That’s a poor ratio for an entire comedy special. As far as sitcoms go, there have been some the past few years that I really did think were funny.”

      I didn’t watch but… I think I know what’s going on. Because everything is so politicized people are lining up according to political dogma. Sailer mentions Chappelle a lot as a sort of optimal limiting point of masculinity. (i.e., if Chappelle says it…..etc.)

      So that means everyone between Sailer and moderate national greatness rightwingers MUST love Chappelle.

      The left hates him because he’s anti-trans, or something.

      Me? I judge artists by whether I like them or not. I’m reconciled to the fact that the overwhelming majority of people in the performing arts are believing, raving leftists. I’m not going to like Vince Vaughan and Mel Gibson, or dislike them, because of politics. It just doesn’t enter into the equation when I watch their performances. Admittedly comedy is different because it’s a particular viewpoint of the comedian, but the rule applies.

      gothamette

      September 17, 2019 at 3:40 PM

      • The funniest thing I ever saw was Gallagher smashing a watermelon. But it was only funny the first time I saw it and because I wasn’t expecting it to happen. And I was 19, when stuff was funnier because I was young.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 3:59 PM

      • This triggers me.

        gothamette

        September 18, 2019 at 7:32 AM

      • I saw Gallagher last year when I was out of town for work and had nothing better to do. It was honestly kind of sad. He broke new ground back in the day in forming what exactly ‘stand-up comedy’ was but now he’s just an old man and there’s scores of younger comedians who can do what he does better.

        Kind of like seeing the Wright Flier circa 1930.

        Jokah Macpherson

        September 17, 2019 at 5:41 PM

      • “I judge artists by whether I like them or not. I’m reconciled to the fact that the overwhelming majority of people in the performing arts are believing, raving leftists.”

        That’s the rule of thumb I’ve accepted when it comes to entertainment. Performers I enjoy would be revolted by me if they knew what I thought, and frankly that’s fair, since I’m revolted by what many performers believe.

        I don’t understand the mancrush Sailer has for Chappelle. Chappelle is a Muslim leftist. He would have Sailer beheaded if he knew who he was. But again, I rate performers on performance. Chappelle IS funny, I just didn’t think he was that funny on his last special.

        It’s still worth watching though.

        Mike Street Station

        September 17, 2019 at 6:39 PM

      • He’s a Muslim? Wow.

        I’d have to say that stand-up comics, because their act is so personal, are a slight exception to my rule. I loathed Louis CK before his downfall because he did a thing on Leno about white privilege that nauseated me. I’ll describe it some other time, but I hated the guy.

        That said I think he’s a funny guy and should be able to come back. Enough already.

        gothamette

        September 18, 2019 at 7:29 AM

      • I think Sailer likes Chappelle because he’s masculine and says a few sensible things about gender relations and, as another commenter here has said, makes fun of blacks. At least that’s the picture I get; I haven’t seen Chappelle. Life’s too short.

        gothamette

        September 18, 2019 at 7:31 AM

      • Gallagher is quite the character in real life. A fascinating interview where he discusses why many of his most famous comedic peers aren’t funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Gf3a2RfwA

        PerezHBD

        September 17, 2019 at 7:43 PM

      • The left hates him because he’s anti-trans, or something

        Are you crazy? The Left hates him because he makes fun of black people in front of white audiences.

        Department 11

        September 17, 2019 at 11:26 PM

      • Not crazy, just ignant.

        gothamette

        September 18, 2019 at 7:27 AM

      • “Are you crazy? The Left hates him because he makes fun of black people in front of white audiences.”

        That’s pretty much the main basis of successful black comedy since…forever.

        Mike Street Station

        September 18, 2019 at 6:15 AM

      • “I think Sailer likes Chappelle because he’s masculine and says a few sensible things about gender relations…”

        That would have described pretty much all men 40 years ago. A lot has changed.

        Mike Street Station

        September 18, 2019 at 8:52 AM

  12. It’s generational.

    The summer, I saw Spanish one man show from the 60ies and 70ies. The jokes were so hateful and I didn’t find them funny at all even if I am ok with racist or mysognistic good jokes.

    The mere fact of speaking about the problems of a women having been beaten by her husband made Spanish laugh at that time. It was awful !

    Bruno

    September 17, 2019 at 2:52 PM

  13. Seinfeld was the last funny TV series. (Or at least, the last funny TV series that I’ve watched.)

    Curb Your Enthusiasm is even better.

    chedolf

    September 17, 2019 at 2:57 PM

    • Yeah, good call, and the other sort-of successor to Seinfeld.

      I think the funniest part is the Tourette’s restaurant scene. Probably the worst steam of profanity you’ll ever hear on TV, but I was laughing so hard I couldn’t breathe the first time I saw it.

      Curb was inconsistent, with a lot of episodes where I didn’t laugh at all (and I think the latest season wasn’t much good), but when it was on, it was on.

      Wency

      September 17, 2019 at 6:39 PM

    • I really don’t understand how anyone likes Curb. First, every woman character is either an atomic bitch (led of course by the agent Jeff’s wife), or at least sullen and withholding, and no male character ever has the temerity to tell a woman off. Curb’s men make Alan Alda look like Attila the Hun. The cameo characters are wholly uninteresting. Who wants to see the ultimate downer, Richard Lewis, or Ted Danson without the gleam in his eye, looking terminally bored with life in every appearance? And everyone has to be forever blasé and unimpressed with anything. I get it, the biggest faux pas in Hollywood is to be earnest. And everyone gets to live in a $10 million house with beautiful landscaping, nothing anyone real can relate to. On the other hand, LD doesn’t flinch from showing blacks as the ungrateful parasites they really are.

      Alonzo Portfolio

      September 17, 2019 at 11:52 PM

      • In the immortal words of Homer Simpson “It’s funny cuz it’s true!”

        Peter Akuleyev

        September 18, 2019 at 7:55 AM

  14. Two and a half men was funny, Black Adder an English show was also very funny. Black Adder was made in the eighties but didn’t make it to American TV (PBS) until the nineties. Lesser known English shows like Coupling and Royal Family, also from the nineties were good. The last really good TV comedy was another English gem called Peep Show, worth a watch on YouTube if anybody has the time. Honorable mention to Broad City as well, though I’m not sure if it will be to everybody’s taste.

    Roli

    September 17, 2019 at 3:00 PM

    • I tried to watch an episode of Broad City.

      Just didn’t get it. Wasn’t funny (to me).

      Mike Street Station

      September 18, 2019 at 6:17 AM

  15. Do you ever watch anime? I’ve found a lot of sex-comedy anime (the kind written for adults, but usually with teenage characters) to be extremely funny. It feels extremely raw and unfiltered compared to American stuff, and it’s unashamedly aimed at male viewers, even if it’s written by women. And they don’t drag on forever, they usually just last one or two seasons and then have a real ending.

    ack-acking

    September 17, 2019 at 3:05 PM

    • Is there a particular anime you recommend that falls into the category of being extremely funny, written for adults, but with teenage characters?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 17, 2019 at 3:58 PM

      • There’s a ton of them, and it depends on your tastes, but here are some of my favorites:

        “Prison School”. An almost-all female school that also has its own prison. The only boys get thrown in prison and tortured like its Cool Hand Luke. The prison guards are just hot chicks from the school, but they’re absurdly strong and sadistic. Extremely dirty jokes.

        “I can’t Believe My Little Sister is so Cute”. A bland, boring high school kid finds out that his little sister is secretly a weirdo pervert who loves porn games about little sisters, and weird anime stuff in general. He has to fight to protect her secret, while being freaked out all the time by her pervertedness and her weird friends (all hot chicks who fall in love with him too). There may or may not be incest.

        “Yamada’s First Time”. A high school girl tries desperately to get laid, and fails hilariously at it, even though she’s a hot chick. Basically a gender swap where she acts like a stereotypical dumb 15-year-old boy. But it’s written by a woman and seemed oddly sympathetic to dumb 15-year-old boys.

        ack-acking

        September 17, 2019 at 4:46 PM

      • The one about the little sister sounds interesting, but it’s not dubbed into English.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 11:31 PM

      • You get used to the subs pretty fast. The original voices (with subs) tend to be better- lip synching, more professional, and some lines just don’t translate easily to English.

        ack-acking

        September 18, 2019 at 12:54 AM

      • Why would you want to watch something dubbed? listening to the original language is much more interesting and gives you better feeling of the tone of the show. Dubbing is prole and cringy

        Hashed

        September 18, 2019 at 9:50 PM

    • Anime is weird.

      GondwanaMan

      September 18, 2019 at 5:32 AM

      • People who watch anime are weird.

        destructure

        September 18, 2019 at 2:15 PM

      • It might seem weirder than it is if you’re not used to the tropes. In an American sitcom, it might seem weird that they pause for a laugh track after every joke, or that broke 20-somethings can afford a trendy apartment in Manhattan. But if you take it as fiction and don’t insist on total realism, you get used to it. Anime has tropes like, someone will be gushing blood from a head wound in one scene and then totally fine the next, or teenagers will working some complicated job they couldn’t possibly have learned. It’s supposed to be entertaining, not realistic.

        ack-acking

        September 18, 2019 at 3:40 PM

      • “or that broke 20-somethings can afford a trendy apartment in Manhattan.”

        The very first episode of Friends, everyone said there’s no way that 20-somethings without jobs would have such a big apartment. And that was before prices for rent really starting going up.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 18, 2019 at 3:42 PM

  16. Classic SIMPSONS (89 thru 98 or so) was THE funniest show of all time.

    Seinfeld is close second. It was Jewish humor and it was spectacular.

    Married with Children while not in the same league or consistently funny, was revolutionary and paved the way Simps and Sein.

    Fakeemail

    September 17, 2019 at 3:13 PM

    • Thanks. Someone had to say it.

      The show with Chris Elliot in the early 90s where he was a grown man living at home and being a bike paperboy was good too. The episode with the anti-ET alien “Spewie” was probably the best.

      Shakespeare Died Laughing

      September 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM

      • You are referring to Get A Life. I’d forgotten about that but that show, as cheaply made as it was, was very funny! In fact, I have the series on DVD, probably the only show I’ve ever thought was worth keeping.

        Mike Street Station

        September 18, 2019 at 6:20 AM

    • Speaking of the Simpsons. Did you ever watch the scene where the Staten Island Goodfellas were fighting the Japanese gangsters called the Yakuzas? It’s hilarious.

      A showdown between Guidos and Eastern Asiatics.

      If you ever watched “Black Rain” with Michael Douglas, you know who were the Yakuzas.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      September 17, 2019 at 11:09 PM

      • That Simpsons scene was FUNNY!

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 17, 2019 at 11:38 PM

      • You ever watched WB11 news with that Eastern Asiatic female anchor, Kaity Tong? The team is very prolish looking, if you compared them to more prestigious ABC News crew.

        But anyway, she has a whole cast of weathermen who look like a bunch of older mafia gentlemen with their suit and ties. There’s Mr. G who’s Jewish and looks like a greasy guido. There’s Craig Allen, not sure of his ethnicity, he could be Jewish or one of those “Mediterranean” Germans, and Joe Cioffi, who’s definitely one of the goodfellas.

        Then there’s a sportscaster, by the name of Joe Mauceri, who’s a young guido, and Andy Adler, who’s Jewish, but she could pass as a guidette, because Jews often could pass as Italian and vice versa.

        https://pix11.com/author/mr-g/

        https://pix11.com/author/craig-allen/

        https://www.meteorologistjoecioffi.com/index.php/tag/pix11/

        https://pix11.com/author/joe-mauceri/

        https://pix11.com/author/andy-adler/

        I like this crew, because they represent what the real NYC should be, the Italian/Jewish White middle class typical of the old NYC, where as ABC-Channel 7 is elitist geared towards the SWPL snobs who want to watch the news on TV.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 18, 2019 at 12:24 AM

      • @Ok, what, who’s this again?

        How old are you? Kaity Tong read the news with Tom Snyder on Channel 7 back in 1983. Mr. G was doing the weather on Channel 2 back in 1977.

        Since you aren’t old enough to remember this, you won’t remember their old sportscaster Jerry Girard, who was very sarcastic in his delivery. When the Yankees were bad in the late 80’s this was hilarious.

        Also, there is no more WB, and the station brands itself as PIX11.

        ScarletNumber

        September 18, 2019 at 10:12 AM

      • In 1983, I was 4 years old so I couldn’t process the news at that time.

        PIX II news is prole because it has an ethnic remnant of the Pre-Guiliani NYC with its Italian and Jewish locals speaking in their NY accents. Not only in their speech, but their mannerisms. It’s probably the only news station left in the city that gives you that old NYC vibe.

        This would be considered atrocious to a station like ABC with their more polished and professional news crew, which SWPL transplants from greater Meriprolestan would find agreeable.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        September 18, 2019 at 1:17 PM

  17. Most comedians aren’t funny. Although a few are hilarious. And most television shows aren’t funny. Though a small number are and a few others have their moments. Everyone likes to rave about Seinfeld. I watched a few episodes and found some parts mildly amusing. But not particularly funny. Maybe, as others mentioned, comedy is a cultural / generational thing. And I can’t relate to a bunch of new york jews being jewish in new york. So Seinfeld was just another crappy tv show I didn’t watch. Other supposedly funny tv shows I didn’t watch include Curb Your Enthusiasm and The Office. They’re amusing and parts are funny but they just don’t resonate with me. Maybe that’s another case of comedy being cultural as those environments are kind of foreign to me. Or perhaps comedy, like most things, is geared towards the average person and most people just aren’t that bright.

    destructure

    September 17, 2019 at 4:16 PM

    • ‘Or perhaps comedy, like most things, is geared towards the average person and most people just aren’t that bright.’

      Yep, the average and all the way down to morons. The famous Jewish humor is self-depreciating and would often be considered anti-Semitic if told by non Jews. Nobody laughs at the Jews more then themselves. But what passes for Jewish humor in America is simply stupid and vulgar.

      Yakov

      September 17, 2019 at 7:48 PM

      • “Navel gazing” is a jewish and japanese thing. Most other peoples don’t find themselves quite so interesting.

        The best english humor, for example, is dark and absurdist. It’s not typically about “englishness” at all. It actually has a lot in common with russian absurdist literature.

        American humor tends to be fixated on ethnic and race stuff to its great detriment. As has been noted elsewhere, multi-culturalism is just so boring.

        bobbybobbob

        September 18, 2019 at 12:32 AM

  18. The riffs that Shane guy who got fired from SNL and his friend were doing on Chinatown etc. were mild as fuq (and actually rather funny, or at least their laid-back delivery of it was). Things are getting insane if rather mild ethnic humor is beyond the pale now.

    trey

    September 17, 2019 at 4:17 PM

  19. Robot Chicken is dumb, but I like it anyway:

    Stan Adams

    September 17, 2019 at 5:15 PM

  20. The author seems to hold the typical liberal view that comedy is supposed to be subversive or “shocking” (of/to traditional morality and traditional sensibilities,) so today’s comedy is funnier because it makes fun of the “right” people to make fun of: conservatives, Republicans, Trump supporters, Christians, etc.

    Hermes

    September 17, 2019 at 5:36 PM

  21. The Office (US version) is hands down the funniest show since Seinfeld. Completely different, but in my opinion an equal. Below the surface in much of the Office’s humor are quite astute observations about class, relationships, and american corporate life/structure that would right up Lion’s alley.* The more you re-watch it the more you see how intelligent of a show it really was. Would note it doesn’t really begin to get good until about mid-way through the 2nd season though.

    *this guy has a brilliant, and painstakingly thorough analysis of a lot of the show’s central themes https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

    JM

    September 17, 2019 at 5:53 PM

    • I’ve watched several seasons. Love Pam!

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 17, 2019 at 11:33 PM

    • Kudos for that link. That really is a genius analysis on corporate and social hierarchy. Ties into a lot of themes that Lion explores.

      Peter Akuleyev

      September 18, 2019 at 7:57 AM

  22. Everything post-Seinfeld is merely amusing.

    I never watched Seinfeld until about 5 years after it ended in ’98 and thought it was great. I cut the cord several years ago, but way back in the late ’80s – early ’90s, I thought Married with Children was funny. And more recently, King of Queens. But I haven’t turned on the TV in over five years.

    E. Rekshun

    September 17, 2019 at 6:40 PM

  23. > The neuroticism, the biting and sarcastic humor, which most White gentiles find alien or foreign.

    Maybe you’re just an ethnocentric bigot who doesn’t understand anything outside of your own ethnic group? White people don’t understand sarcasm? Have you ever heard of British dry humor? Have you ever heard of Peep Show, The Office UK and US, Spinal Tap, The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, David Spade, Chris Farley, SCTV…? Hey I like Woody Allen and I like all of the above, which is just the tip of the iceberg, but I guess that’s just because I’m not a closed-minded hateful bigot who hates everything outside of my own ethnic group.

    Fact Checker

    September 17, 2019 at 7:11 PM

    • Good list. You left out: Yes Minister, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Black Adder, I’m Alan Partridge, Arrested Development and Faulty Towers.

      Curle

      September 18, 2019 at 11:11 PM

  24. What about “Everybody love Raymond?” I thought it was a hilarious show. (…………………insert JS’s frequently made comment about how Ray Romano looks Pakistani.)

    I never found Seinfeld the least bit funny. I heard Gilbert Gottfried do a really funny Seinfeld impersonation. They say Seinfeld finds it offensive.

    Maryk (the g-loaded guidette)

    September 17, 2019 at 7:45 PM

    • Ray Romano’s Pakistani appearance could either be a curse or godsend depending on context.

      A fella with a Romano surname receives a pat down and extra scrutiny at the TSA checkpoint – Curse

      Romano identifies himself as a Republican like most guidos, being called out as a self hating Muslim – Curse

      Romano identifies himself as White, but he understands his own appearance doesn’t confirm it – Curse

      Romano goes to Staten Island and the guidos hate him because he doesn’t look like them – Blessing

      Middle Eastern people and Indians mistaken Romano as one of their own – Blessing/Curse

      Final verdict, Romano’s non-guido look is a bad thing.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      September 18, 2019 at 12:02 AM

  25. Welcome Back Kotter, as occasionally entertaining as it was, wasn’t that funny, but even as a kid I noticed how loose and amateurish the production was. That itself was funny. It was almost like a live skit on SNL. There was one scene in some plot where the students suddenly had to do an operation on either a school pet like a guinea pig or maybe even a person. They needed a flat surface to do it on, so someone, maybe the student “Juan Epstein,” looked around and swept dozens of heavy school books off a desk that fell to the floor with a thunderous crash. Again, not that funny, but more like free theater than a scripted TV comedy. I remember all the cast involved looked at each other for a split second, even John Travolta, like, “this is some bullshit, who cares.” Maybe not something children should have seen.

    Lords of Flatbush

    September 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM

  26. Seinfeld is not funny. You are reacting to a laugh track.

    map

    September 17, 2019 at 10:24 PM

    • I always thought Seinfeld was vastly overrated.

      GondwanaMan

      September 18, 2019 at 5:34 AM

    • Guy with no humor spotted. Please remove.

      Maciano

      September 18, 2019 at 7:01 AM

    • Sinusfelt might be nauseating to the Non-NYC viewers. Certain commenters criticize Lion for being Manhattan-centric or NYC parochial. Well, Sinusfelt is that kind of show.

      How can you sniff out who’s a native NYer among the masses who knows about local culture?

      Two things: Ask them if know what is a babka and/or if they eat their pizza with the slice folded.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      September 18, 2019 at 1:36 PM

    • This guy…this is not my kinda guy

      Gm

      September 24, 2019 at 3:30 PM

  27. The author doesn’t even realize that the whole point of Fozzie Bear was that he was a lousy comic who though he was funny, just like Miss Piggy was a deluded self-proclaimed starlet and Gonzo was a pretentious would-be avant-garde “artist.”

    The author has no business writing about comedy.

    njguy73

    September 17, 2019 at 11:03 PM

  28. RobertFrank615 on fantasy football:

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    September 18, 2019 at 12:52 AM

  29. Many of Seinfeld’s lol sketches would be considered politically incorrect and condemned today if they were produced by a gentile.

    What’s with Adam Sandler? He was funny on Remote Control and SNL. After that, his dumb white gentile schtick was unfunny. I’m sure that was the point.

    Lord Boot Straps

    September 18, 2019 at 2:44 AM

  30. Nothing beats Seinfeld, but I’ve enjoyed Curb your enthusiasm a lot as well. Other show which were OK; Arrested Development, That 70s Show and Eastbound & Down.

    I also liked the Danish show Clovn, it’s very similar to Curb. I managed to get a version with English subtitle. Very funny imo.

    Maciano

    September 18, 2019 at 7:00 AM

  31. What’s the proof that comedy is for idiots? There is a fake audience laughing behind the scenes because nobody would know what’s funny and when to laugh on their own.

    Incidentally Lion, anyone who spends a second of his time watching this trash has very low status. I really dont understand: how stupid you have to be to watch this?

    Yakov

    September 18, 2019 at 7:54 AM

    • Also, in these totally retarted shows why are the actors always shouting? Sinfield is supposed to be the best? Are they afraid that the audience will fall asleep or just walk away? I think they want to make a stupid viewer feel inadequate if he doesn’t laugh with them. Sinfield is a perfect example of the moronic American Jewish humor. And people watch this stupidity while the country is going to hell?

      Yakov

      September 18, 2019 at 8:11 AM

    • C’mon, Yakov, that BO routine is vintage Lion. Not funny? Are you sure you aren’t actually German?

      Peter Akuleyev

      September 18, 2019 at 8:20 AM

  32. Monty Python is still funny all these years later – especially Holy Grail and Life of Brian, two of the funniest films ever made.

    English comedies are better because they don’t make as many episodes, and don’t kill the premise. In addition to Peep Show, IT Crowd was often laugh out loud funny, Toast is good, anything by Steve Coogan is funny, Upstart Crow is great if you like Blackadder and/or David Mitchell.

    If you like the British The Office, and dark cringe comedy, Nighty Night was great. Dark as crude oil, and makes you feel like a worse human being for watching it, like all great comedy.

    Peter Akuleyev

    September 18, 2019 at 8:19 AM

    • One Python sketch that will never be shown again, and might have already had all of its copies hunted to extinction, is the one with the old ladies gossiping about their mutual friend “Mrs N____ Baiter.” Even masking it like I just did might be dangerous, so delete my comment if you need to, Lion. I remember seeing that uncensored episode on effin PBS back in the 80s, and couldn’t believe they let it through then.

      The C Word (C_____ship)

      September 18, 2019 at 6:49 PM

    • I remember “League of Gentleman” and “Snuff Box” killing me, but it’s been so long I’d need to rewatch.

      bobbybobbob

      September 18, 2019 at 9:56 PM

  33. Million Dollar Extreme Presents: World Peace with Sam Hyde (2016). Lasted 1 season.It even got better ratings than the overrated Eric Andre Show. But some crybaby Jewish reporter from Buzzfeed demanded it to be cancelled because it offended him.

    Sarah Silverman and Eric Andre (both Jews) can do their own thing like blackface and make Jewish jokes and never feel any backlash, but if a gentile makes a joke about black crime rates or Jewish stereotypes, it must be shut down immediately.

    john S

    September 18, 2019 at 8:53 AM

  34. Hey Lion, interesting article from Unz. Says Asians develop cognitive skills earlier in the same way blacks became physically mature earlier.

    http://www.unz.com/article/why-harvard-is-right-to-discriminate-against-asians/

    Which brings us back to your bone of contention. Why the FUCK is one’s life determined by such an unstable time as youth? That’s the time when people have the LEAST amount of control over themselves and the LEAST awareness of reality.

    fakeemail

    September 18, 2019 at 12:42 PM

    • Harvard doesn’t believe in any mental differences between races, so that’s not reason for why Harvard should be allowed discriminate against Asians. I totally disagree with Unz.

      I support destroying Harvard by making them accept mass Asians, so white people don’t want to go there anymore (like Stuyvesant High School), and then that will break the monopoly of elite universities.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 18, 2019 at 2:00 PM

      • There is always a “monopoly of the elite”, if its not universities it will be something else. This is the nature of human beings, to form groups and if your group is very rewarding, no to let anyone else get into it.

        Hashed

        September 18, 2019 at 9:45 PM

    • “Hey Lion, interesting article from Unz. Says Asians develop cognitive skills earlier in the same way blacks became physically mature earlier”.

      Due to average smaller skull capacity and brain size, it is likely that Blacks develop their specific cognitive skills earlier. I suppose that those skills just aren’t notable enough to draw attention to their early development.

      In the animal Kingdom, its generally held that slower development of maximum cognitive potential is a trait of higher IQ animals with larger brains. This is why mammals develop for extended periods in the added protection of a womb instead of for a shorter period in an egg, and why mammals with larger brains tend to have longer juvenile development periods until adulthood: needing to stay with parents for longer periods of time than do animals with smaller brains (see the difference in such periods between humans and apes).

      https://animals.mom.me/long-orangutan-mothers-stay-young-2455.html

      “Junior orangutans typically live alongside their mothers until the approximate age of 8, according to the San Diego Zoo”

      Dan

      September 19, 2019 at 10:46 AM

  35. Watch Bill Burr. A very funny comedian.

    chris

    September 18, 2019 at 3:22 PM

  36. Funny shows other than Seinfeld. As true with Seinfeld, the suitability for repeat viewing is generally a decent indicator of comedy quality. Though, it should be noted that no truly funny show will be funny in the same manner as another funny show. Somewhat similar in concept to how all wildly successful businesses are successful in inherently unique ways:

    Its always Sunny
    Frasier
    Archer
    Reno 911!

    Funny for its time (comedy tastes are always changing), but still provides for good entertainment:

    Night Court
    Cheers
    The Andy Griffith Show

    Dan

    September 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM

  37. There are a few funny shows mentioned here but no one has mentioned my favorite one yet and the is Judy Dench in a British series “As Time Goes By” Which to me is both funny and occasionally touching. I also like the program “Waiting for God” but I’ll say that might be because of my age.

    My favorite American comedy is probably “Mash”

    Oden's Raven

    September 20, 2019 at 12:47 PM


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