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Logan’s Run review, part 3

The movie previously showed us that the runner that Logan killed was wearing an ankh, and that Jessica who Logan met on the “Circuit” but who then refused to have sex with him because she doesn’t like Sandmen, she was also wearing an ankh.

Logan goes to his debriefing with the computer which runs the City of Domes. The computer explains that there have been 1056 runners that are unaccounted for, and when Logan asks “are you sure they didn’t get renewed, “the computer doesn’t answer the question. Then Logan starts asking questions like “has anyone ever been renewed,” and the computer’s non-answer implies that the answer is no and the computer is silent because it is unable to tell a lie. Which doesn’t make any sense because the computer runs a society based on everyone believing that they get “renewed,” in other words reincarnated. Why doesn’t the computer propagate the big lie and just say “of course people get renewed.”

The computer believes that runners have successfully escaped the city and live in a place that’s called “Sanctuary” by the rebel group within the city which encourages people to “run” and hands out the ankhs. The computer assigns Logan the mission of finding Sanctuary and killing all of the runners. And to help Logan “run,” the computer takes four years from his life and makes the glowing crystal on his wrist blink red and black, which means his time is up and he has to be “renewed,” but it is clear that Logan is now having doubts about “renewal” and is worried that he has just received a death sentence. He asks the computer if he will get his time back when he completes his mission, and the computer is once again silent. Cue ominous music.

In the next scene, Logan meets his partner Francis as the health club. Francis is sitting in a whirlpool hot tub, and behind him there’s a big room full of gym equipment and men are exercising. No women are seen: even though sex is casual, gyms are sexually segregated. This is one of those scenes from the movie which are so prescient. The type of fitness club shown in the movie barely existed 1976. The spread of big fitness chains all over the place didn’t start happening until the 1980s. In 1976, there was only a single Gold’s Gym in Venice Beach, California.

Logan then finds Jessica, because he remembers that she was wearing an ankh, and he figures that she’s the best way to meet up with the other people who know about “Sanctuary.” She expresses doubt that a Sandman would run, but he shows her his blinking crystal and says that it’s different because now it’s his own life at stake.

Jessica takes her proposal to two guys in her movement, and they decide that Logan can’t be trusted and that Jessica should get his confidence so she can lead him to a place where the guys can ambush and kill him. It should be pointed out that the two guys don’t look very scary. Before there was a Gold’s Gym in every town, men weren’t all muscled up the way they are today.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

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  1. In the book, the maximum age was 21…that would change everything in the movie…could teenagers really run a society? By the time they really mentally mature and start to acquire knowledge, they would be dead. So the computer must be far more important than it is in the movie to keep everything running.

    GrassMudHorse

    September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

  2. For-profit gym chains are a relatively new concept, but YMCA’s have been around for generations and independent gyms also have been around for a long time.
    There are a few women-only gym chains, Curves and Lucille Roberts to name a couple, but I don’t know of any that are for men only. Or even any men-only independent gyms. Speaking of gender balance, an interesting feature of Crossfit is that it’s almost evenly divided between men and women.
    Come to think of it, a men-only gym chain might not be a bad business idea. It would appeal to men that aren’t yet in good shape and might be self-conscious about exercising in front of women. Other men might appreciate being in an all-male environment without the distraction of being around women.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

    • Clark Hatch is a male only fitness chain.

      http://www.clarkhatchinternational.com/

      Curle

      September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Not as far as I can tell. The original Tokyo location was for men only, but that was when it first opened decades ago. In any event, the company’s only affiliated gym in the US is in Honolulu and it’s for both men and women. There used to be a fairly small men-only gym chain called Cuts Fitness, but it shut down in 2007.

        To be sure, Oxygen Gym is the world’s top bodybuilding gym, attracting competitors from all over the world, and it’s only for men. The thing is, it’s in Kuwait, where all gyms are gender-segregated. But that’s not what I had in mind.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

      • Back in the 80s I won a free one year membership to the Seattle Clark Hatch in a contest. It was all male then. Which had its downside as I could tell there were some weird gay gazing in the locker room (I was both young and young looking). Of course, I’ve seen that in other gyms too.

        Curle

        September 19, 2019 at EDT am

    • “Other men might appreciate being in an all-male environment without the distraction of being around women.”

      I think there’s a place for male-only gyms, clubs, etc. Having women around turns a lot of men into rutting bucks. There needs to be a few places off-limits just so men can go somewhere that doesn’t happen. Just like women need a few places they can go where that doesn’t happen.
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      Leon: “It should be pointed out that the two guys don’t look very scary. Before there was a Gold’s Gym in every town, men weren’t all muscled up the way they are today.”

      Back in the day, few people worked out unless they were an athlete or a thug. So most people weren’t very muscular. On the other hand, there weren’t very many fat people, either.

      destructure

      September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • I don’t agree that having women around turns men into rutting bucks. Mostly I think they just ignore us. Men are good at that as they have binary brains.

        Having NO women around can be, as they say nowadays, problematic.

        Do I have to tell you that in NYC “men only” is a not so genteel code for gay?

        *****

        Not so OT, has anyone here heard of “Minshew Mania”?

        It’s a great example of how one’s looks affect literally everything in this media-saturated world.

        Minshew seems to be a very promising young quarterback, but the real reason for Minshew Mania is that he looks like a young Burt Reynolds (RIP).

        gothamette

        September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • Not so OT, has anyone here heard of “Minshew Mania”?

        I’d heard of him, but had no idea that he was the subject of any mania.

        Evidently, he works out in only a jockstrap — or sometimes nude — catches fish with his bare hands (noodling, a redneck pastime) and scored 42 on Wonderlic, which converts to an IQ of 142.

        Not gay, but I can see why the ladies would be intrigued.

        ice hole

        September 19, 2019 at EDT pm

  3. Logan’s Run deleted scenes (reconstructed) playlist:

    MEH 0910

    September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

  4. I’m hoping you’ll review The Wicker Man (1973 version). The movie gives you a sense of life if Christianity never happened. The Wicker Man is a giant effigy allegedly used by the Druids.

    A Boy and His Dog (1975) based on a Harlan Ellison novella about a post-apocalyptic world.

    Curle

    September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

    • “The movie gives you a sense of life if Christianity never happened.”

      If Christianity had never happened, we would probably have been on the Moon a millennium ago.

      The Romans banned human sacrifice throughout the Republic and its empire of sister cities in I think 97 BC. Julius Caesar continued their battle against human sacrifice cults (begun against Carthage) by ending the reign of the Druids in Gaul.

      One of their complaints against Christianity is it was a revival of the pseudo-morality of self-sacrifice including a symbolic sacrifice cult that was trying to take over the legal system and destroy freedom of belief. Which is exactly what happened. Christians were still burning opponents at the stake until recent times as sacrifices to God.

      One way of looking at libertarians is they’re working to remove the remnants of these Dark Age self-sacrifice cults including in legislation e.g. taxes.

      rob

      September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • ‘Logan’s Run’ is, of course, yet another Human/self-sacrifice cult in techno-socialist clothing.

        Robert

        September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • “If Christianity had never happened, we would probably have been on the Moon a millennium ago.”

        Which explains why those non-christian societies, like India and China, did go to the moon in 1000 AD.

        Half Canadian

        September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • Christianity has always been fairly humane, rob. The dark age wasn’t caused by Christianity, but Germanic invaders who hadn’t undergone the same selection for civility, that the Romans had.

        Just like the dark age we are now entering is caused by an influx of invaders who haven’t undergone selection. It will also last hundreds of years, or a thousand even.

        Lowe

        September 19, 2019 at EDT am

      • “If Christianity had never happened, we would probably have been on the Moon a millennium ago”

        That sounds as an absurd thesis as anti-colonialists thinking that Ghana would have a space force now if it weren’t for colonial oppression. Although if you have a case to make, I would be curious to hear it.

        Mike Street Station

        September 21, 2019 at EDT am

  5. Lion, you might want to watch the pilot of the Logan’s Run TV show.

    njguy73

    September 18, 2019 at EDT pm

  6. So the super smart computer knows about the rebel group and their sanctuary city, but it only sends one guy to take them out? Why didn’t it send out an army long ago?

    ack-acking

    September 19, 2019 at EDT am

    • The computer isn’t very smart.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 19, 2019 at EDT am

    • The whole plot is a but thin. Quite a coincidence that he met the girl just before he is sent on his mission. And why would you wear a symbol that marks you out as a part of a top secret group? And why not just get the girl and torture the information out of her? And taking away years of Logan’s life is no more convincing a proof that he is on the side of the rebels than, say, a Russian spy in America walking round in a cowboy hat wearing 40 inch waist sweatpants.

      As with a lot of films of this type, you feel that the material offers the possibilty of a far better film than the one they made. Given how important the youth culture movement was and is, it is probably an under-investigated phenomenon in movies, and the bits that it got right like gyms, cosmetic surgery and sexual freedom are all quite interesting observations.It has something in common with both Zardoz and the Time Machine, in that it depicts people for whom a life without struggle has destroyed their will to survive.

      prolier than thou

      September 19, 2019 at EDT pm

      • “And why not just get the girl and torture the information out of her?”

        All of your other complaints are valid, except this one. In the 1970s, you didn’t torture a girl. Especially not a beautiful girl.

        “As with a lot of films of this type, you feel that the material offers the possibilty of a far better film than the one they made.”

        I agree.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 19, 2019 at EDT pm

      • OK, well how about this: Jenny Agutter should have slept with Michael York precisely BECAUSE he was a Sandman, in the hope of getting information out of him. Then when Michael York realised she was part of this secret network he would have been worried that he had been compromised, and also felt hurt that he had been used by her, which would in turn have made him question his own view of sex as just being entertainment with no emotions involved.

        He could then have suggested to the computer ‘why don’t I just find her and torture the shit out of her’ as a way of trying to cover his own tracks and because he wants revenge, to which the computer could have responded ‘negative, she’s a totally hot chick, duh.’

        The video of ‘Fast Love’ is basically Logan’s Run, isn’t it? It shows how the film could look with cooler special effects.

        prolier than thou

        September 21, 2019 at EDT am

  7. Sorry to belabour this:

    Francis

    September 29, 2019 at EDT pm


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