Lion of the Blogosphere

Shooting at party in Texas

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/27/us/texas-am-commerce-shooting/index.html

Appears to be NAM violence.

Black person with a handgun shoots at his enemy who is also black. Not clear why he shot a bunch of other people in addition, unless maybe he shot multiple times to to make sure his enemy was really dead, and he had really bad aim. Because it was at a crowded party, any shot that went awry would inevitably hit someone else.

Unlike in beta-male rage shootings, the shooter got away, since his goal wasn’t to go down in a blaze of glory, it was just to settle a score. And because the shooter used a handgun, and not an assault rifle favored by white beta-male ragers, the ratio of wounded to killed is much higher because handgun rounds have much less kinetic energy. A round from an AR-15 (the most popular rifle used by white beta-male ragers) might have more than ten times the kinetic energy of a round from a cheapo pistol.

More gun shots the next day at a vigil for the slain suggests that it could be part of an ongoing gang war of some type. Or the shots at the vigil could just be totally unrelated NAM violence.

Witnesses at the party are refusing to cooperate with the police. Because black people have been taught by the mainstream media to treat police as the enemy.

These shootings are a reminder of the benefit of following John Derbyshire’s rule 10(a): “Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally,” as well as 10(d), “Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.”

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 28, 2019 at 7:47 AM

Posted in Crime

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  1. “Not clear why he shot a bunch of other people”
    Bad aim is a classic aspect of shootings of this type. I feel like Sailer documented this in more depth at some point.

    And also very true about handguns. I sometimes watch those closed circuit videos of shootouts (which seem to take place mostly in Latin America). I notice that people being shot at close range with handguns often have a tendency to stay in the fight. Not sure if they’re being hit with .22’s or something higher caliber. Being killed by a single hit from a low-caliber handgun round seems to be mostly a function of very bad luck or very good aim.

    When you do die from a handgun, it often takes a while. Compare the fates of Lincoln (survived 9 hours after a headshot) and JFK (dead within 30 minutes). Lincoln likely could have been saved if taken to a modern ER, albeit with brain damage, but JFK’s brains were manifestly splattered across that car.

    I have a buddy that just keeps a 9mm for home defense. I tell him that I would be worried about its stopping power, he says I watch too many movies. But the movies I’m watching are actual shootouts, so I don’t think I’m being paranoid by insisting on a long gun for home defense.

    Wency

    October 28, 2019 at 10:05 AM

    • People (and animals) react in strange ways when shot. Four FBI agents ended up dead in the 1986 Miami Shootout because a criminal kept shooting with a semiautomatic rifle even after absorbing several rounds from the agents’ 9mm pistols. One of the shots which hit the criminal was so severe it would have been fatal within a few minutes, unfortunately for the agents it didn’t immediately stop him. Five years earlier, in the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt, four people went down immediately and were completely incapacitated when each was shot just once with a .22 pistol.
      Speaking of animals, back in the 1950’s a grizzly bear attacked a Cree Indian woman who was working a trapline in northern Alberta. She was armed with nothing but a single-shot .22 rifle, yet was able to drop the bear in its tracks with a perfectly aimed shot into its brain. For decades afterwards it remained the largest bear ever shot in North America.

      Peter

      ironrailsironweights

      October 28, 2019 at 12:48 PM

      • Good examples. I have to think mentality has a lot to do with it. A hit from a known source when you’re in a life-or-death fight doesn’t count for as much psychologically as an ambush in what you thought was a safe place. Though the hit Brady took in the Reagan assassination would have dropped any man.

        Also of interest is the North Hollywood shootout. There the perps didn’t kill anyone while wounding many. I think the variable is that in Miami, one of the perps managed to sneak up on the officers and fire at them at close range. In Hollywood, the officers stayed behind cover at relatively long range. The perps also took an insane number of bullets, but were well-armored.

        Interesting tale about the grizzly though — hadn’t heard of that one.

        Wency

        October 28, 2019 at 1:56 PM

      • He didn’t sneak up on the FBI. The FBI rammed the car he was in, and he tried to fight his way out. Platt was a bad mo fo.

        MoreSigmasThanYou

        October 28, 2019 at 3:27 PM

      • A hit to the CNS it can result in instant paralysis, loss of consciousness, etc. But most targets expire due to blood loss. That’s why bullets rarely kill instantly unless they hit the heart or brain stem. Even brain shots can live for a while. We had livestock growing up. And we always put them down instantly with a .22 to the brain. But a perfect head shot is unlikely in a shootout or hunting situation. Even perfect heart / lung shots can live for a bit. I’ve seen animals hit with perfect heart / lung shots run 50 yards. When they were cut open they hardly had any heart or lungs left. They were just running on whatever blood and oxygen they still had in their brains / muscles when they were shot.

        https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2015/04/knockdown-power-heres-why-some-calibers-always-seem-flatten-game/

        This old article by Carmichael finally answered my question of why some heart/lung shots are DRT while others aren’t. Basically, veterinarians autopsied buffalo from a cull in SA. Most of the animals were shot in the boiler room so there wasn’t much difference there. But the instant kills all had lots of broken blood vessels in the brain. What they concluded was that the bullets had impacted near the systolic peak when the vessels in the brain were already engorged with blood. The extra pressure from the bullet’s impact burst the blood vessels. This is different from the hydrostatic shock theory. Regardless, whether even a perfect heart / lung shot is an instant kill is pretty much chance.

        https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/bella-twin-the-22-used-to-take-the-1953-world-record-grizzly-and-more/

        This is the article about the woman who killed the grizzly with a 22. And Jeffrey Epstein was murdered to cover up crimes against children committed by billionaires and politicians.

        destructure

        October 28, 2019 at 5:54 PM

      • Firearms expert Paul Harrell did a video a while back in which he analyzed the 1986 Miami Shootout. Suffice to say that the bad outcome was not just because of the 9mm’s inadequacies, but because the whole incident was basically a Murphy’s Law fustercluck in which everything possible went wrong.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        October 28, 2019 at 11:55 PM

      • Paul Harrell has probably the best video on the Miami FBI shootout.

        raoulduke2767

        October 29, 2019 at 7:01 AM

    • And don’t forget how Garfield lingered 79 days while doctor unsanitarily searched for the bullet. He would have survived today; doctors could have left the bullet in and he would have been OK.

      njguy73

      October 28, 2019 at 1:46 PM

      • Garfield would have survived had he gotten no medical attention at all. The bullet did not hit any important organs and the wound would have healed on its own. Unfortunately, the doctors attending him probed the wound channel with their unwashed fingers, a practice that was falling out of favor at the time but not completely gone, and caused a massive and eventually fatal infection.

        Another interesting assassination story happened 20 years later when William McKinley was shot at an exhibition in Buffalo. The doctors who examined him in the exhibition’s first aid room immediately realized that his injury was very serious, much worse than Garfield’s. They decided that his best chance was immediate surgery by Roswell Park, who was Buffalo’s most highly esteemed surgeon. Upon learning that Park was about to begin an operation at the hospital in Niagara Falls 20 miles away, they sent a courier by special train to get Park to cancel the other operation and return immediately to Buffalo.

        When the courier got to Niagara Falls he interrupted Park just as the surgeon was about to start the operation and told him that he’d have to come right back to Buffalo to handle an important (but unspecified) case. Highly annoyed, Park told the hapless courier that he wouldn’t abandon the Niagara Falls patient even if the patient back in Buffalo was the President of the United States. Upon learning that it was, in fact, the President who needed his attention, Park remained true to his word and continued with the Niagara Falls operation.

        By the time Park completed the operation and returned to Buffalo, the doctors at the exhibition were just finishing up surgery on McKinley, having been unable to wait any further. It was a haphazard operation to say the least, performed in the first aid room rather than in an actual hospital. As the room still had gaslights the doctors had to operate by the rapidly fading daylight coming through the windows, for lighting the gaslights would be far too dangerous as the anesthesia was extremely flammable. And the surgeon in charge of the operation was a gynecologist who had never treated a gunshot wound.

        Whether Park’s presence would have saved McKinley is uncertain. He died of pancreatic necrosis, a condition that can be fatal even today. Clearly, though, his chances would have been much better than they were.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        October 28, 2019 at 5:09 PM

      • You know, you should write more about that kind of stuff, and less about your female grooming fetishes.

        njguy73

        October 30, 2019 at 12:06 PM

    • Pretty sure JFK died as soon as his brain left his skull. And yes terminal ballistics become qualitatively different after the speed of the projectile exceeds 2200 fps. Shotguns tend to provide qualitatively different terminal effects above and beyond what common rifle calibers give you.

      Massad Ayoob has studied more gun fights than any of us, and he agrees with your observations.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      October 28, 2019 at 3:34 PM

      • JFK was technically still alive, by some definitions of the term, when he arrived at the hospital, but it was just his brain stem keeping his lungs and heart working.

        Wency

        October 29, 2019 at 1:02 PM

  2. A standard 9mm pistol round, the most common handgun cartridge, has about 385 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. A 223/5.56 AR-15 round has about 1,300 foot-pounds even though it’s much smaller.

    Note: a single round from a 600 Nitro Express, also known as The Firearm That I’d Gladly Sell My Soul and Burn in Hell for All Eternity to Own, is about 8,400 foot-pounds.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    October 28, 2019 at 10:06 AM

    • I defy anybody to tell me they heard a black man speaking upon hearing that voice.

      Marty

      October 28, 2019 at 11:53 AM

    • I’ve heard of some people’s retinas detaching when they shoot rifles like that.

      raoulduke2767

      October 29, 2019 at 9:57 AM

      • “I’ve heard of some people’s retinas detaching when they shoot rifles like that.”

        In that case, sounds like a pretty stupid hobby.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM

      • That’s extremely rare and happens only with people who already have eye problems.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        October 29, 2019 at 3:02 PM

  3. As soon as I heard Texas A & M I could fill in the rest.

    Mike Street Station

    October 28, 2019 at 10:32 AM

    • It is not Texas A&M College Station. It is Texas A&M in Commerce, Texas which is a lower level school with average SAT around 1100.

      Alice

      October 28, 2019 at 3:27 PM

  4. Witnesses at the party are refusing to cooperate with the police. Because black people have been taught by the mainstream media to treat police as the enemy.

    They call the police pretty quickly when it is time to arrest a White person.

    It’s more of an internal code and fear of retribution.

    bomag

    October 28, 2019 at 11:56 AM

    • Snitches get stitches, yo.

      Oswald Spengler

      October 28, 2019 at 1:17 PM

  5. notsecurelyanchored

    October 28, 2019 at 1:18 PM

  6. Witnesses at the party are refusing to cooperate with the police. Because black people have been taught by the mainstream media to treat police as the enemy.

    Yeah, they learned not to cooperate from reading the NYT. One of the reasons people don’t come forth is because they personally have outstanding warrants. Relatedly, a person might not alert the police is that s/he knows people at the event who did not participate in the crime but have outstanding warrants for previous offenses. Most research says the two biggest agents for political socialization are family and school. With the segmentation of media, rabbit holes and confirmation bias, the media probably amplifies what one has been taught.

    Vince

    October 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM

    • “One of the reasons people don’t come forth is because they personally have outstanding warrants.”

      That’s how they cleaned up NYC in the early 90s. Of course, we all know that didn’t work. The left says so.

      gothamette

      October 28, 2019 at 4:29 PM

    • Certain words in the U.S. press, even general ones, have been coopted to mean ghetto blacks. For example, “dispute.” That word is so general that everyone in the world older than 18 months has had a dispute at least once with someone. But the press–the liberal, supposedly minority-loving press–uses this word only when describing ghetto-style crimes. The belief that the press are coddling blacks and mestizos by censoring police reports that mention race is wrong. We all understand the press’s code words. In the last 10 years at least, I have never read the word dispute used in its general sense, but only in a certain particular sense when the press describes what happened before a shooting at a “party,” a street knifing, etc. My point before I ramble too much, not a new or profound one, is that the press is toying with its white readers.

      Pabst

      October 29, 2019 at 11:40 PM

  7. Killing with guns is beta. It’s knifing that separates a man from a boy if he wants to exact vengeance to boldly go with excruciating pain, where few other men have gone before.

    Ok,what, who's this again?

    October 28, 2019 at 2:50 PM

    • In most countries where guns are not that prevalent as in the US, knifing is the common method for killing or injuring other people and is not considered particularly manly. Although carrying a knife is illegal in many places, most low life kids carry them and it is very hard to defend against a knife. In those countries killing with a knife considered to be cowardly, unlike fighting with your fists.

      Hashed

      October 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM

    • Are you sure you’re not talking about sodomy???

      destructure

      October 28, 2019 at 7:17 PM

  8. The shooters may have been black, but they were enacting white supremacy. Nell Irvin Painter says so.

    gothamette

    October 28, 2019 at 4:30 PM


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