Lion of the Blogosphere

What should we do when Trump loses?

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“Prole in Idaho” writes in a comment:

However, your constant dwelling on Trump not winning along with you offering no suggestion on what we should do in the event of a Trump loss is starting to get awfully annoying and depressing. At least give us your suggested route to take if and/or when Trump loses.

That’s a very good question, but I have no idea. Maybe I’ll quit this blog, but then what would I do when I’m bored at work?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 3, 2019 at EST pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. #resist?

    I don’t know either, other than oppose everything. Even if Trump wins, the time for permanent Democratic rule, like in California, is coming, so it’s probably a good idea to think of some good ideas on dealing with a permanent SJW majority. For example, when the schools determine that your son is really a daughter, and the state moves in to take xir, how do you resist? You sure can’t appeal to common sense…

    Mike Street Station

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

  2. Try to block as much of the Warren (or whoever) agenda as possible. I don’t Senate Democrats are as liberal as she is.

    Beliavsky

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

  3. I know one thing I’m doing. I’m loading up on AR-15s…..and many of my fellow proles will join me in that pursuit.

    Prole in Idaho

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

  4. What should we do? Trump’s not losing. Real question: What comes after Trump in 2024?

    Andrew E.

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • You’re correct Trump is going to WIN bigtime.

      What comes next is crucial I’d say Don junior.

      However Ted Cruz might be a worthy sequel.

      redarmyvodka

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • I agree that Trump will win, if maybe not “bigtime”. If Warren is the Dem candidate, their base will disappear in droves because she comes across as an old maid schoolteacher. Not exactly prepared to rev up the NAM base.

        370H55V

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

  5. Look for a better job?

    Dave

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • Why? He’s got a talent for cleaning toilets.

      John J McNulty

      November 5, 2019 at EST am

  6. Unlike the Left, there will be no organized, sustained “resistance” if Biden or Warren prevails. Conservatives too willingly accept the status quo and suck at protesting/sabotage.

    Brendan

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • Nothing notable will happen if Trump loses. Just like nothing happened in Canada when Justin Trudeau remained prime minister after the recent October election. (He did lose enough seats to be reduced to a minority government.)

      Just like nothing happens with delay after delay of Brexit.

      Frau Katze

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • Weren’t you anti-Trump up until very recently? One of those trendy types who began hating Trump because some alt-retard told you Trump was bad? I assume you’re back on the Trump train now because the sky didn’t fall and Trump didn’t abandon his agenda despite a few setbacks. That’s good but your comment again suggests a lack of political knowledge.

      As the old Soviet saying goes find me the man and I’ll find you the crime. The rightwing began this scam of using special counsels to undo elections, harass political opponents, and engage in overt/covert pressure campaigns. As a Clinton supporter in the 1990s I know very well how good the GOP was at protesting/sabotage. They also used the legal system to settle political scores literally no one can comply with a hundred thousand laws/regulations. This stupidity only has an ounce of legitimacy because in the real world no investigator/prosecutor has unlimited time, money, resources, and incentives to go after individuals. Instead they investigate real crimes not people.

      After the assassination attempt on Reagan (Bush crime family) it was a smart move by the newly inaugurated Clinton administration to immediately fire all sitting US attorneys, fire the FBI director, and fire the entire white house travel office. When the secret service wouldn’t do as Clinton wanted and there were constant leaks he threatened to replace them entirely by terminating them as a cabinet level department and using state troopers for presidential security instead. They got the message, reformed, and problems stopped. The president is the chief executive of the federal government and by extension leader of US law enforcement. He can do as he pleases. Rightists complaining then were like leftists who now claim Trump can’t order the DOJ around because they’re “independent” ummmmm NO.

      The Vince Foster death happened soon afterward probably a message to Clinton by the powers that be. With deep state backing these rightists began using the courts to launch frivolous lawsuits against a sitting president. They also started the precedent of deploying politically motivated hoaxes to launch endless investigations including special counsels which violated the separation of powers, had all sorts of perverse incentives, and engaged in massive abuses of power. They leveraged all that to gain majorities in Congress for the first time in decades which enabled their impeachment drive. They were defeated but they weakened the Clinton presidency and especially the campaign of his successor. The 1990s were enormously successful for America and instead of a landslide for Al Gore he lost his home state and the election narrowed down to Florida where the state GOP stole the election. The rightwing also began the cancel culture going after the Dixie Chicks who were critical of Dubya while assisting/shielding the worst president in American history.

      The GOP might be impotent now because they’ve lost their deep state backing but that was not always the case. Unfortunately for them the American people won’t tolerate this playbook being deployed against Trump. The president has fought back forcefully and the battlespace is more balanced than the past.

      redarmyvodka

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • After the assassination attempt on Reagan … it was a smart move by the newly inaugurated Clinton administration to

        12 year gap there. What are you talking about?

        Marty

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

  7. Here’s an idea— find an anti-immigration candidate that is not a criminal and sleaze bag. It’s really not hard, Trump got halfway there, but he wasn’t really that sincere on immigration, otherwise he himself wouldn’t have used illegal labor. He should have EXCORIATED fiscal conservatives for having invited peasants from Latin America into the country to enrich themselves and provide a political growth base for the progressives in the Democratic Party.

    You DON’T need an asshole yelling “they’re rapists!” to make this argument soberly and forcefully to the moderate middle.

    Ditch the man, keep the plan.

    Jack

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • I think the problem is that the forces of globalization are too strong for a conventional politician. Both the conventional right and left favour illegal immigration, for different reasons.

      The left wants to import an electorate that will keep them in power indefinitely. The right likes the cheap labour.

      You need a maverick.

      Frau Katze

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • That’s the problem right there. Which major PAC or business is going to donate to the candidacy of an anti-immigration politician? Answer: None. That’s why they almost don’t exist. We’re totally dependent on rogue billionaires who can self fund. Maybe there will be another one in another 40 years or so…

        Mike Street Station

        November 4, 2019 at EST pm

      • Trump didn’t self-fund very much at all, because he’s a cheapskate.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 4, 2019 at EST pm

    • Only someone like Trump could have withstood the vicious attacks. Find a non-sleazy nice-guy, and he will be destroyed, or sell out like Romney.

      Roger

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • Trump is the greatest candidate/president in American history.

      How about cucks, boomers, and Gen Xers fuck off instead thx.

      redarmyvodka

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • The moderate middle isn’t what it used to be.

      Mike Street Station

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • No one else would touch immigration, except Tom Tancredo, long ago, and he got nowhere.

      Mrs Stitch

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

  8. We should form anti-ma (short for anti-marxist action) to harass leftists and suppress their free speech. We should also for #resistance to fabricate bogus dossiers and scandals as a pretext to investigate the Dem president. Maybe even have some marches wearing hats knitted to look like dogs. What’s good for the goose…

    destructure

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • As one who would be a Trump voter if I was an American, I think you’ll get few takers. It seems like a waste of time. I have much better things to do than knit dog hats.

      Frau Katze

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • My comment was sarcasm. That’s what the left did when they lost.

        destructure

        November 5, 2019 at EST pm

      • @destructure OK I believe you.

        Frau Katze

        November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • Mister, what you’re suggesting sounds illegal. I mean, not when they do it, of course.

      Blue Tribe Dissident

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • A great place to start would be the college president at Connecticut State.

      You know me

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • “Anti-ma” – that’s funny!

      gothamette

      November 4, 2019 at EST pm

  9. I was trying to find a word to describe your recent anti-Trump postings. Churlish came to mind.

    Roli

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • There seems to be a stage that reluctant Trump supporting bloggers or talkers go through, where they try to pull their audience away from Trump. To show their influence and independence and stuff.

      Then they find out they can’t do it, and either give up or get churlish. Or both.

      Mrs Stitch

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • I was an enthusiastic Trump supporter. Until the problem of him sucking at being President became such a huge problem.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • until the problem of him sucking at being President became such a huge problem

        That’s just the natural order: expectations exceed results with the presidency. I recall Blacks in the media trashing Obama for not doing more.

        bomag

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

  10. Lion: start working on a novel about growing up Jewish on predominantly Italian-American Staten Island.

    njguy73

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • It sucked.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 3, 2019 at EST pm

      • Of course it sucked. That’s the point. Being an outsider is awesome literary material. Write a tragicomic tale about being torn between two worlds.

        It could be turned into a sitcom, “Nobody Loves Lion,” or “Jewish-ish” or “90 Minutes From Williamsburg.”

        njguy73

        November 3, 2019 at EST pm

      • Tom Wolfe already wrote a good novel like this called Bonfire of the Vanities. Except there was no one from Staten Island in that book.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • OK, how about an alt-history novel where the Verrazano never gets built and Staten Island never gets the Guido Invasion? A Staten Island dominated by SWPL Jews? One where Brooklyn remains prole and Staten Island develops its own high-tech economy and becomes the setting for “Girls”? And the island seeks to seceded from the US and become its own nation?

        No, I don’t want half the royalties. I just want to read it.

        njguy73

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • Is that the name of the novel?

        H man

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • Staten Island gets dominated by SWPL Jews, what does that mean?

        I’m crossing my fingers that Chinatown becomes gentrified by SWPL Asiatics.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

  11. “Maybe I’ll quit this blog, but then what would I do when I’m bored at work?”

    Continue blogging as the worm turns, where LoftB becomes a travel-oriented blog from time to time that focuses on SWPL pretension and prole degradation.

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • Speaking of travel and the Hudson Valley again. Newburgh’s increasing Hispanic population gives you something that comes out of the history books about Spain.

      A Synagogue becomes a Church to serve the needs of the burgeoning Hispanic demography in the gang banging land of the Hudson Valley known as Newburgh.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • Newburgh has been black for decades.

        gothamette

        November 4, 2019 at EST pm

      • The waterfront is very White with its restaurants, cafes and bars, if anyone has seen Newburgh of late. As you get into the interior, that’s when the trouble begins.

        We could all agree that Hispanic immigration has served somewhat of a buffer zone for black miscreants. Inviting a lesser trouble to quell a bigger trouble. This has been a nation wide phenomenon going for at least 20 years or more.

        After the Obama era, blacks seem to quietly disappear into the fold of nowhere, while Hispanics are slowly weaving into the American fabric of multicult.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        November 4, 2019 at EST pm

      • Yet Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jewish numbers continue to increase. This is more of a neighborhood shifting from one demographic to another.

        Most depressing: churches in Europe converted to mosques. Here Christianity has been completely abandoned. But not Islam. It’s too depressing to think about.

        Frau Katze

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

      • “Most depressing: churches in Europe converted to mosques. Here Christianity has been completely abandoned. But not Islam. It’s too depressing to think about”

        Abrahamic superstition is taken up by lower order bi-pedals and abandoned by higher IQ specimens – this is HBD.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

    • YES I really think LotB sells himself short, not believing that we actually find stuff like travel writing and art and other non-political commentary interesting.

      S.J., Esquire

      November 4, 2019 at EST pm

      • Newburgh is a good example of HBD rising from the ashes of de-industrialization.

        The riverfront area is where you find quality livability and tourism with its restaurants, bars, cafes, farmer’s markets, new apartments and hotels run solely by White people. As you venture into the town’s interior, you’ll find a tiny development among Hispanics, like their basic staples of supermarkets and small eateries. It’s literally a wasteland, when it comes to the black sections of the town, where the residents travel distances to get their amenities.

        Ok, what, who's this again?

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

    • Excuse my Hudson Valley rant again, Newburgh is across from the town of Beacon, on the eastern side of the Hudson River.

      Beacon is very White, very Hipster and very lively with all kinds of shops, restaurants, cafes and bars. It would make sense that the waterfront area of Newburgh mimics its crosstown counterpart, while the center of town is the jungle.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      November 5, 2019 at EST am

  12. I recently read three articles about next years election. A Willie Brown article titled Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don’t bet on it. A Bloomberg article titled Trump’s Re-Election Likely If Economy Stays on Course. And an article from The Hill titled Democrats will win back the Senate majority in 2020, all thanks to President Trump.

    In other words, four more years of ineffectual BS. I agree with Trump’s agenda. And he’s kept his promises as best he can. But he just doesn’t have the experience or temperament to be president. He’s disorganized and doesn’t listen to his advisors. And the executive branch is dysfunctional. Instead, he spends all his time arguing. That may be fine for anonymous commenters on the internet but not for president. Trump’s biggest problem is himself. And he needs to either get his act together or step aside. If he loses the senate, they’ll just fabricate something else to impeach and remove him for anyway.

    destructure

    November 3, 2019 at EST pm

    • Willie Brown is a pretty shrewd guy. Did he ever endorse Kamala?

      I’m beginning to think that all this is a lot of media hoo-ha and Trump will be not only re-elected but by a bigger margin than before. He might even win by 200,000 votes!

      gothamette

      November 4, 2019 at EST pm

      • Endorsed her?

        Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

        njguy73

        November 4, 2019 at EST pm

    • Stop complaining. You’ve got a president trying to stem the tide of migrants. And making some progress.

      No one else would do that. He’s shown one thing: there’s tremendous resentment about this tide of illegals. Future presidents will have to at least factor it in.

      The Dems aren’t doing very well either. There’s no Dem saviour anywhere in sight.

      Frau Katze

      November 5, 2019 at EST am

      • You did not understand my comment.

        destructure

        November 5, 2019 at EST pm

  13. “What should we do when Trump loses?”

    Oswald Spengler

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

  14. Concerns about an “emerging Democratic majority” are over-stated. The undemocratic/unrepresentative Senate favors Republicans/conservatives, as well as the Electoral College. A poor showing for in 2020 might hurt their gerrymandering efforts, but the system has rigged some advantages that will take many more decades to overcome with demographics.

    By 2040, we’re projected to see 15 states with 70% of the population. By around 2050, two states will have 25% of the population (and 4% of the country’s Senators). The obvious solution is independence movements. Conservatives and liberals should be mutually supportive. A, say, Californian secession should be greeted with “good riddance,” but rather, “Yeah, people should be allowed to have a more representative government that reflects their values.”

    Vince

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • A California that seceded would immediately become a vassal state of either the US or China. They’d probably choose the former (if given a choice), which would leave CA effectively still part of the US, but stripped of any political power; a pretty good deal for the rest of the country.

      TWBC

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • There is a point that Republicans may be able to threaten control of the Senate for a long time. The Republican edge in the Electoral College is slight and tenuous though; there is a reason that the EC didn’t split from the popular vote for over a century. Trump may repeat something like the map of 2016 again, but after that I don’t expect to see it again in my lifetime.

        And secession won’t happen. Red states benefit too much from Federal money, and Blue states have too much desire to tell Red states what to do. Plus it would wreak havoc to put up physical/legal/economic barriers across state lines — the states are very integrated economically, culturally, socially.

        All this is very different from the situation the last time states seceded.

        Wency

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

  15. Lion, listen to me. As a black man, the world can only get better with Cory Booker or Kamala as president. The sooner we recognise that its time for another black presidunt the better!

    The Philosopher

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • Looks like someone forgot to switch sock puppets.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • The latest “thing” is to ignore race altogether and reject Obama’s recent criticism of cancel culture on the grounds that he’s a Boomer (born in 1961, he is old enough to fit. Someone somewhere decided that anyone born 1964 or earlier is a Boomer.)

        True, the Boomer’s parents are a different generation but few of them are still alive or they are alive but too old for active participation in politics.

        I don’t understand the Boomer accusation but I’m sure I will get a flood of answers by admitting that I’m a Boomer myself (and even worse, somewhat older than Obama).

        Frau Katze

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • I will go so far as to admit that this song, written in 1967, could not possibly even be thought of at the present time.

        My impression of that era is that the active players were older than me. I was still in high school in 1967. By the time I graduated the big changes were already well underway.

        “San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair)”

        If you’re going to San Francisco
        Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
        If you’re going to San Francisco
        You’re gonna meet some gentle people there

        For those who come to San Francisco
        Summertime will be a love-in there
        In the streets of San Francisco
        Gentle people with flowers in their hair

        Written in 1967.

        Frau Katze

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • If you’re going to San Francisco today, there’s enough manure on the streets to grow your own flowers.

        njguy73

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • @Frau Katze

        I remember that song too, by a one-hit wonder names Scott MacKenzie. I was in high school back then too, and graduated just about the time it came out.

        a bee ee?

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • I didn’t get a flood of people whining about Boomers. Youtube must have a much younger demographic. And Lion’s readership must include lots of Boomers,

        Frau Katze

        November 5, 2019 at EST am

  16. James Kirkpatrick Retweeted:

    MEH 0910

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • Trump has been legitimately successful. He has shown ‘good times’ — prosperity, low unemployment, rising wages. And peace on the international front.

      This is probably the best outcome you could reasonably get. The Dow is up 9,500 points since his election. We have gotten in no new wars and the world peaceful. Times are good.

      Everything the left pushes now favors decline: anti-family policies (rejection of religion, gender nonsense) = low birthrates leading to economic decline; socialism = economic decline; third world migration = impossible demands on public services and decline; politically correct suppression of speech = inability to come up with solutions; ‘green’ policies = crippling burdens on the economy.

      Do you see a pattern here? All their roads lead to decline.

      We conservatives don’t control the media, the universities, the censoring tech companies.

      Let them take over. Good luck to them and pass the popcorn. As I said, I don’t think enough popcorn exists for this unfolding show. Because what is ahead is not a bump or a recession. What is happening is a civilizational cracking. Collapsing birthrates, impossible debts, a peak of progress, this are not bumps, they are breaks.

      People will learn one way or another. The only way for the left to learn is by experience. They will not listen to us. Let them face reality.

      Dan

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

  17. It will be popcorn time. There isn’t enough popcorn on the planet for what’s coming, if you can stand to watch.

    Here’s the thing:

    Democrats cannot sustain the system. Republicans can barely sustain the system with the Fed accommodating, huge tax cuts and very pro-growth policies. The economy is growing at just 2% in these ideal conditions, and we have huge budget deficits.

    (1) Liz Warren’s Medicare for all plan is pegged to cost somewhere between $20 and $30 trillion dollars.

    This is just retarded. We have massive debts and deficits as it is.

    (2) How can a welfare state coexist with the Democrats’ idea of open borders?

    Again, this is just retarded. As third world arrivals collect more than they pay in, the system is less, not more, sustainable.

    (3) Soak the rich plans would crash the markets very quickly.

    Democrats may get a chance to grab the steering wheel but every idea they have would crash the system.

    Dan

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

  18. When Dems regain power, their first priority will be punishing Trump voters.

    TWBC

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

  19. The fake impeachment isnt enough for him to lose. Stop listening to the mainstream narrative. It is usually wrong about the national election.

    Paul Rise

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

    • I never believe the narrative. I do believe polls. I also believe in the power of propaganda.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • The only polls that will matter are the polls on election day in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and I guess minnesota.

        Polls mean less that nothing right now.

        The Democrat who could actually beat Trump hasn’t entered the race yet.

        Paul Rise

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • Minnesota voted for Hillary in 2016, I don’t see Minnesota flipping to Trump. Minnesota was the only state that didn’t vote for Reagan in 1984.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

      • I agree Lion. I think the leftist media is the single most malevolent influence in society today*. Without the unrelenting barrage of propaganda – which includes almost all entertainment nowadays – what would peoples’ attitudes be on issues like immigration, same-sex marriage, single payer health care, climate change, and so on? Very different I’d imagine.

        That same propaganda encourages people to believe that they will not have to live with the consequences of their political choices. It seems to be an especially acute problem with female voters, women generally being more afraid of exclusion and ostracization than men. Better to have the “right” attitude (and vote accordingly) on an issue like immigration than be called a bad person by some celebutard like Alyssa Milano, even if that means ruining your local public school district in the process.

        * To be fair, the media is only slightly worse than the others. A case could made for the permanent DC bureaucracy a/k/a “deep state,” the public school teachers’ unions, the DNC, the RNC, big tech, the leftist foundations, and so on.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        November 4, 2019 at EST am

  20. Hillary won Minnesota by 1.5%. Trump is allocating some resources there, which suggests it’s not a lost cause, although I do agree history would suggest otherwise. Still, it would make THEM tie up resources there to hold it.

    As a former MN resident, I also agree that Trump probably won’t win, but you should also recall that Mondale won MN only by about 3,000 votes, and there has been lingering suspicion since then that the outcome was fixed in order to save him the embarrassment of losing his home state.

    370H55V

    November 4, 2019 at EST am

  21. but then what would I do when I’m bored at work?

    When I’m bored at work I either take a looong lunch, knock off early, check my investments, research real estate, shop on Amazon, and watch YouTube tutorials on home repair, I believe that IT provides a report each month to senior management on employees’ Internet activity, but I’ve never heard anything in over ten years.

    E. Rekshun

    November 4, 2019 at EST am


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