Lion of the Blogosphere

Virginia is now a solid-blue state

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With yesterday’s election in Virginia, Democrats now control the governorship, both houses of the state legislature, both U.S. Senators, and 7 of 11 U.S. Representatives. And Virginia voted for Clinton in 2016.

This is important because Virginia voted for George W. Bush in 2000. No Republican will ever win the presidency that way again in the foreseeable future, so the only path forward for Republicans is to win the Trump way, by winning in Pennsylvania, which requires appealing to prole whites rather than to suburban college-educated types voting for lower taxes. The upper-class and college-educated types more and more are voting to have their taxes increased.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 6, 2019 at EST am

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  1. As far as Presidential races go, it won’t make much difference. Virginia went with Clinton in 2016 and I don’t think there was any expectation that Trump was going to poach it in 2020.

    Mike Street Station

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

  2. Virginia has primarily gone blue for the same reason that California did…because of a massive influx of immigration and the racial demographic changes that result. Most white suburban voters with nuclear families still vote Republican and do not want their taxes to go up. Unfortunately this is offset by the rising number of single moms and cat ladies in our midst.

    B.T.D.T.

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • It’s not just demographics; it really is policy. A lot of the defense and other federal contractor types supported Bush, whose policy agenda aligned with theirs. But they find the Trump agenda dangerous and irresponsible. These people are attached to the “deep state.”

      bobbybobbob

      November 6, 2019 at EST am

  3. Virginia is basically two states: Northern Virginia (NoVa), which is within the Washington commuter zone, and the rest of the state. NoVa is predominately Democratic, which when combined with the small but not insignificant percentage of Democrats in the rest of the state is enough to turn the state blue.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • I lived in NOVA, and in different parts of the rest of the state. When I lived in NOVA, there was a gun store that had people picketing it simply for being a gun store. The rest of the state was part of the South. As government grows, NOVA population grows. So no surprise there.

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 6, 2019 at EST am

      • Most maps show about two-thirds of Virginia to be outside the pin pen merger, in other words in most of Virginia the two words are not pronounced the same. This section of the state is one of the few parts of the old Confederacy outside the merger, the others being Savannah, south Florida, New Orleans and far west Texas.

        It is because of the merger that we have the strange expression “ink pen.”

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  4. For Trump, the Republicans losing the governorship of Kentucky is a much worse sign. I am sure you are seeing that in the news now.

    Lowe

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • Bevin was personally unpopular. Republicans won the five other statewide offices in KY , four of them by more than a dozen points.

      Jay Fink

      November 6, 2019 at EST am

      • I have trouble figuring out what was going on in Kentucky. I guess that Bevin just didn’t have any prole appeal, even though he campaigned on abortion and illegal immigration. Prole white voters aren’t as attached to the issues themselves as commenters here believe.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 6, 2019 at EST am

      • KY is a funny state politically. Overwhelming Republican votes nationally but lots of local democrat victories locally and at the Governor level.

        Only 2 of the last 10 KY Governors have been Republicans

        GSP

        November 6, 2019 at EST am

      • I think lions right about prole issues. The parties work constantly to figure out what they do care about. I used to do calling for the gop and they’d give us a list of issues that worked in Ohio in 2004 but were really stupid. Few cared. Really, most just give up worrying and live their lives.

        Like Trump bringing up immigration was an “oh yeah” moment for me because it had been repressed for so long. I had forgotten about being mugged and beaten by Mexicans in socal, and realized that it’s even worse now.

        Mrs Stitch

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • The key to understanding Donald Trump is that he is not an austerity junkie. Bevin went immediately toward attacking Medicaid and Pensions, which is going to rally the kind of people who depend on that against him. It’s like Chris Crispie Creme wanting a frank talk with people on Social Security about the high cost of it, when the average payment of social security is $1,000 a month.

        If you are going to ride the MAGA coattails, then you have to follow the MAGA agenda.

        Couple of more points:

        1) Bevin was behind by 17 points and Trump’s rally was good enough to rapidly close that difference.
        2) Some stupid libertarian showed up who siphoned off 28,000 votes, so a 5,000 vote win for a Democrat is not much.
        3) Kentucky is a mining state, where lots of people have medical complications working in the mining industry. They are very sensitive to healthcare and pension issues.

        Bevin should have been focused on economic growth, not budget bs.

        map

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • >>Prole white voters aren’t as attached to the issues themselves as commenters here believe.

        No they are not. Alt leaning SWPLs such as ourselves here misunderstand the proles. Proles are not a solid and stolid block of right leaning, religious affirming, issue-aware, socially conservative voters. Issue wise, proles are not necessarily conservative, though most do have conservative instincts. Most proles cannot even conceptualize their own political interests let alone endorse and follow an agenda. Talk about immigration, outsourcing, de-industrialization, the FIRE economy, race replacement, abortion, the gay agenda, the wickedness of trannyism, the bane of tatoos, etc (all real issues) goes over their head. The likes of Tucker Carlson, Hannity, O’Reilly, et. al, do not speak to or for the proles, they speak to us, alt-woke, SWPL right wingers. Give a prole a decent wage and health insurance and you have his loyalty.

        Most proles do not give a damn about the GOP but they like Trump because they are attracted to shiny objects, gilt and flash, and Trump represents these in abundance. Furthermore, proles love a fight, and Trump fights. I think that impeachment will actually help Trump as far as his support from the proles goes – Trump fighting the Democrat good whites will be a spectacle. Better than cage fighting, super-hero movies, NASCAR, reality TV and the NFL all wrapped together – though he will likely lose support from right-leaning SWPls who voted for him over Hillary. How will it all turn out in November 2020? Who knows.

        Daniel Heneghan

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • Proles understand that they’ve been hurt by bad trade deals, bad immigration deals, offshore-outsourcing and austerity. They see that Democrats hate them because they are White and Dems want to replace them with foreigners.

        This isn’t lost at all.

        map

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Yeah, How did that happen?

      MoreSigmasThanYou

      November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • Don’t know how indicative that is. Bevin was a bad politician. He seemed to run the state like he was in the Deep South, but KY is culturally more like a mix between South and Rustbelt. Still, he did a lot better than his disapproval numbers indicated. If he had a D behind his name and his opponent was endorsed by Trump, he might have done 10 points worse.

      Wency

      November 6, 2019 at EST am

      • Bevin’s main schtick was imposing restrictions on Medicaid. That might have gone over reasonably well in some states, but not in a state with among the country’s highest percentage of Medicaid recipients.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • @Peter I noticed Republicans never try to make a dent in traditional Medicaid which mostly Democrat voters use yet they are extremely opposed to expanded Medicaid which many of their own voters would use.

        Jay Fink

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • Good thoughts. In the Deep South, with a lot more blacks, welfare can be seen as more of a black thing. KY has fewer blacks but lots of very poor whites, especially in eastern KY, so the racial divide isn’t as strong.

        But also unions are more popular in KY. In the Deep South people have no experience with unions so don’t mind when governors break them.

        Wency

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

  5. Anne Coulter’s take

    https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/11/15/yes-virginia-immigration-is-turning-the-country-blue-n2410060

    “What happened was: Democrats brought in new voters. In 1970, only one out of every 100 Virginians was foreign-born. By 2012, one in nine Virginians was foreign-born.”

    Mike Street Station

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

  6. When will you stop posting about american politics and post more about African politics? I think there was a coup recently in Guinea. So much to write about!

    The Social Justice Warrior

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • Who cares? The coup in Guinea affects only the Guineans, American politics affects the whole planet.

      PrinzEugen

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  7. If Trump loses this term or wins and fails to tight the screws on immigration once and for all, I do not think there is any chance a Republican will ever win again presidenship for the forseeable future.

    You just need 3 or 4 additional states to turn solidly blue thanks to latinos immigration (e.g. texas) and within 2 or 3 terms of democrats control the US will be majority non-white. Add to that the mass indoctrination of youth into liberal ideology and tech enabled censorship and you have the recipy for a hell-hole country in the making.

    Europe can still make it out of this shit, but sadly i do not think there is much hope for the States.

    Seingalt

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • Just the opposite is true. Latino immigrants are relatively more peaceful and assimilable than Middle Easterners and Africans. The United States is on a glide path to Argentina or Brazil. The path of Europe leads only God knows where, but it’s wherever, it is plagued by sectarian violence.

      Lowe

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • The Balkans give a pretty good idea of where Europe is headed.

        Richard

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • European white demographics are in the mid 80’s or higher.

        map

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • The immigrants arriving to Europe are worse, hands down, than those arriving to the US. Do you remember Charlie Hebdo, the Bataclan massacre, the truck attacks? Those are the people arriving there.

        Do you remember Merkel granting amnesty to like a million migrants at once? They admitted like 1% of their population in one year, at the time.

        These are countries where it is illegal to level serious criticism at immigrants, and the politicians admitting them, if it is too mean. People go to jail for it. In France they don’t even collect vital statistics on births, because obviously the number of babies born to migrants is huge, and growing.

        Europe is in a much worse position than the US, because of a combination of unlucky geography and even stupider leaders. At this rate there is some small chance I will outlive the nations of France and Germany, which is insane.

        Lowe

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  8. For the record, Northern Virginia is a nightmare of 8-lane traffic snarls, chain restaurants, and almost zero night life. People are lured there by well paying jobs but I have friends who literally wake up at 4 a.m. to get to their offices on time. I know D.C. has many redeeming qualities but NOVA is so deprived of joy that if its entire population committed mass suicide on the same morning, I would blink, nod, and say out loud “I understand”.

    It’s such a shame! Lower Virginia, and places like the Shenedoah Valley can boast the most beautiful landscape in the U.S. (certainly East of the Mississippi).

    SWPL2

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

  9. OT: how come you haven’t had anything to say about the pro-subway-turnstile-jumping protests going on in NY? Is it not as big a deal as the woke SJW Twitterers whose accounts I lurk on are making it out to be? They are acting like there’s this grand moral crusade afoot to finally free persons of color from racist white privileged public transit fares.

    Hermes

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

    • The idea of eliminating transit fees on public transit makes some sense. Or at least it would, if not for the fact that without the fees and the police enforcing them, most subway systems would be full of beggars, panhandlers, and sometimes criminals.

      Lowe

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  10. I live in Loudoun County, Virginia, in suburban DC. My county has steadily gone from solid red to blue over the last decade. I was heavily involved in my local Republican Party until I was not so politely asked to leave. Why? The party leadership objected to my opposition to the nomination of vocal Never Trump Republicans. They sit around at meetings and discuss how Trump is hurting their Electoral prospects in Virginia and how they must remedy this by nominating moderate women and minorities. When this is not the topic of discussion they scheme for jobs in the Trump Administration (presumably to undermine him from within). Virginia is lost to Republicans because they never really had an organization here. We have Democrats and Democrats lite. When people have a choice they’ll choose the real thing.

    Nova_negativist

    November 6, 2019 at EST am

  11. Also OT: looks like the late Lawrence Auster’s posthumous book has finally been released:

    https://www.amazon.com/Our-Borders-Ourselves-America-Multiculturalism/dp/0997331070/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=our+borders+ourselves&qid=1572988282&s=books&sr=1-1

    Hopefully his literary executor Laura Wood, once a faithful vile sycophant but who turned into a crackpot conspiracy theorist after his death, didn’t corrupt its content too much.

    Hermes

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  12. The UC and UMC have been, at most, Rockefeller Republicans. Neoliberalism is interventionist and business-friendly, so why do they need the GOP? The alliance between progressive bluehairs and corporate neoliberals is quite durable, since progressives don’t care about class and even sneer at the poor.

    Monsieur le Baron

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  13. Heh. The people have spoken. And are speaking. No amount of gaslighting will restore the Narrative on this.

    Andrew E.

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • The Timurids looked like the folks who face the bamboo ceiling in America. This guy sure doesn’t.

      Ok, what, who's this again?

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • Yeah, for all their wives and concubines, the Mongols (including at least the early Timurids) were surprisingly effective at ensuring their ruling line stayed genetically Mongol. Contrast with the Ottomans, some of whom had lighter skin and hair than Kings of Italy or Greece.

        I think Khalil is supposed to be purely Mongol and Turk but doesn’t really look it here.

        Wency

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • @ Wency

        What do you think he looks like, as opposed to Mongol/Turk?

        Lowe

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

    • The most revealing thing about the Epstein situation is that the media is actively seeking to suppress information on Epstein. We now know that the corrupt fakestream news are complicit in and actively participating to protect the world’s largest child sex trafficking operation.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      November 7, 2019 at EST pm

  14. Interesting tweet regarding VA electorate demographics:

    Andrew E.

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Yes, Ann Coulter is dead wrong, for whatever reason, Trump won the prole white vote in Kentucky and this Bevin guy did not.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • That’s what I suspected on this particular issue. While immigration affects America everywhere in all sorts of ways, the main factor in the recent electoral changes in Northern Virginia is the expansion and SWPL-ization of the greater Washington, DC, as white collar coastal elite professionals continue to move in to work in government, government contractors, lobbying firms, etc.

      Hermes

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • > professionals continue to move in

        The exact same people who voted for “R” branded GWOT and globalism ten years ago simply do not like Trumpist populism. Analyses are overestimating the demographic change factors and underestimating that Virginia Republicans have *always* been a bunch of slimy swamp creatures.

        bobbybobbob

        November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Of course, Donny Ferguson has no link to any statistics to back this. Beside, look at the math very carefully.

      The white population has dropped by roughly 3%. The black population increased by 10%. The Latino population increased by 20%. There is no link for the male population.

      map

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • I don’t know why his starting point is 2008 either, since that’s when VA first went blue and Dems still haven’t matched Obama’s 6 point win in any presidential year since. (I agree with others that DC spillover is the main factor, though.)

        Richard

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

    • This is from a 2011 WaPo story: “Va.’s numbers of Hispanics and Asians skyrocket as white population dwindles… As recently as 1990, non-Hispanic whites made up 76 percent of the state’s residents. A decade later, their numbers had fallen to 70 percent, and last year, they accounted for less than two-thirds of the state’s residents.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vas-numbers-of-hispanics-and-asians-skyrocket-as-white-population-dwindles/2011/02/03/ABs07mP_story.html

      2008 was the first time since 1964 that Virginia voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, so it’s weird to use Obama’s election as baseline to explain away the significance of demographic change. VA was essentially a Blue state by then.

      chedolf

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

    • Virginia voted for Obama in 2008. It also elected a 6D-5R House delegation and had a D governor and two D Senators. The relevant comparison is to 2004, not 2008. Also, minority turnout was much higher in 2008 (a Presidential election with Obama at the top of the ticket) than 2018 (a midterm election).

      snorlax

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

  15. The return of Jeff Sessions:

    IHTG

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  16. Well, there’s the other Vargina – West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads – John Denver

    Ok, what, who's this again?

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  17. I agree, but the problem with appealing to proles is that you can’t get anything done when you do take power. To actually create change you need smart people on your side. So yes, adopt more economically populist policies, but also ditch the Christianity and climate denial stuff. For the climate denial I don’t mean embracing all the green crap, just don’t say it isn’t happening. Upper middle class people don’t want to pay more for gas, but they want to be associated with high-status experts.

    Alexander Turok

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Any acceptance of climate nonsense is an austerity program. If you believe it is true, then you support the austerity measures to fight it.

      map

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

  18. Before Bevin became Kentucky governor Kentucky had Democrat Steve Beshear as it’s governor. He allowed for the expansion of Medicaid (most states that had Republican governors chose not to expand Medicaid). Medicaid is a really popular in Kentucky because Kentucky has a lot of poor people. Around 400,000 people in Kentucky are on Medicaid. When Bevin became governor he declared war on the poor and their Medicaid. He tried to put a monthly deduction on Medicaid. He tried to take away dental and vision benefits. He tried to force Medicaid recipients to pay for their hospital stays and their meds. He is currently trying to impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients. That would kick roughly 100,000 Kentuckians off Medicaid. Needless to say this ticked off many Kentuckians. Bevin then declared war on pensions which turned nearly every government worker and teacher against him. Many people in Kentucky have teachers in their families. Some non Kentuckians have no idea about the huge battle that took place in Kentucky between teachers and Bevin. It was a BIG showdown.

    The media is making all of this complicated but it is really very simple: Bevin gave Kentucky a taste of smaller government by trying to take away entitlements. For trying this he got fired. Trump is loved in Kentucky, One Democrat commercial that aired before the election showed a bunch of old white men talking about how much they like Trump. They conclude that Bevin has been bad for Kentucky and Kentuckians should not let party loyalty get in the way of ditching Bevin. This was a real ad that ran in Kentucky. So no, Kentucky is not bored with conservative issues like abortion or anything like that. They just hated what Bevin did to teachers and poor people. It’s really that simple. Many Republicans are lying by acting like Bevin was unpopular because he is Bevin. No, he was unpopular because he tried to take away health care and other entitlements. If Trump has a brain he will not run on taking away people’s benefits. Corporate conservatism is not popular in Kentucky.

    For more evidence that it was Bevins policies that made him unpopular watch the Beshear victory speech video. When Beshear mentions that in week one he will get rid of the Medicaid waiver which required some people on Medicaid to work the crowd erupted with extremely loud applause. Many in the liberal media hate Trump so much that they are pretending that many Kentuckians hate Trump which is laughable. However, I suspect that many Kentuckians would hate Trump if he tried something really stupid like trying to take away Kentuckians government benefits.

    John

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Nice, informative post. In other words, Bevin did the right thing. Michael Kinsley once wrote a book about Americans titled, “Big Babies.”

      Marty

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • “In other words, Bevin did the right thing”

        Lol, no. No he did not. We should raise taxes on the rich, who, as Mr. Lion has pointed out, are left leaning, and we should give all of their “hard earned” money to the working class. You must be new to this blog and its version of conservatism.

        I give Kentuckians credit for refusing to allow corporate conservatives to bamboozle them. Kentuckians know that their quality of life and health will be better with bigger government. Stop being a Big Baby who whines about fiscal liberalism because if you don’t stop whining you will fail to grow the Republican party. Really, what do you guys have that gets regular normal people excited about your party other than immigration? “Hey guys! We are going to take away your health care so that you can die!!” is not a winner. If you cannot realize this and adapt, then who is being the baby? I mean, Republicans could have won nearly every presidential election since FDR if they had been a little more generous with government programs but no, they had to be selfish, greedy pigs and allow the left to gain power. And now that the left has power, how is that doing it for you Marty? You liking that? Well, it didn’t have to be that way.

        John

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • John,

        “We should raise taxes on the rich, who, as Mr. Lion has pointed out, are left leaning, and we should give all of their “hard earned” money to the working class. You must be new to this blog and its version of conservatism.”

        That doesn’t work.

        And Bevins did raise taxes in Kentucky, I have read. So this guy did both the worst of all possible worlds…raise taxes and cut services. It’s like he is working for the IMF.

        map

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

      • Map said—
        “That doesn’t work.”

        Wrong. Raising taxes on the rich DOES work.

        John

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

      • Of course taxes collect money! But Republicans intentionally put loopholes into the code to protect their rich donors. And/or when they show up by accident, Republicans refuse to close them for the same reasons.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

      • “Of course taxes collect money! But Republicans intentionally put loopholes into the code to protect their rich donors.”

        Then close the loopholes!

        John

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

      • There are only two facts about progressive taxation that hold true:

        1) The rich get richer, meaning taxation fails it’s equity purposes.

        2) The poor and middle class eventually pay a lot more.

        And these things happen without doing anything to improve the basic finances of a government. There are still deficits and budget shortfalls everywhere.

        In fact, the Clinton budget surplus emerged only after Clinton and Newt Gingrich agreed to massive tax cuts. Then, that was undone by Greenspan tanking the US economy.

        map

        November 9, 2019 at EST am

      • Lion,

        “But Republicans intentionally put loopholes into the code to protect their rich donors.”

        Both parties put loopholes in. Why do you think Mike Bloomberg is a Democrat.

        map

        November 9, 2019 at EST am

    • > take away entitlements

      The entitlements are going away no matter what anyone wants. The pensions are bust and medicaid/medicare will have to be mostly dismantled under pressure of rising interest rates. Medicare blows up around 2024, even without insane Warren expansions. The preferences of the voters on this matter are irrelevant. Maybe best if Bernie or Clinton or Warren is in for the next eight years so they can be bag holder.

      A lot of the immigration problem goes away as government at all levels goes bust, and the feds have a fiscal crisis. None of it works without the “free” money being tossed around. A lot of people doing linear projections on demographic trends don’t get that at this point a fiscal crisis is inevitable inside ten years and everything will change. “There are weeks where decades happen.”

      bobbybobbob

      November 6, 2019 at EST pm

      • I agree with this essentially, but you make it sound as if there is going to be some grand crisis, after which nobody will have public benefits. That is not going to happen. Instead our poor demographics will simply cause public benefits of every kind to be watered down. Promises will be broken in degrees, retirement ages increased, and standards set lower.

        Lowe

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • I strongly disagree. There will be a breaking point. It will not be an incremental process. The problems will be papered over until rather suddenly that becomes completely impossible. They’ll start seizing assets from 401ks, and then seizing brokerage accounts, and then finally bank balances. If you keep anything in a 401k or IRA you’re an idiot.

        bobbybobbob

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

      • Idk man, that would make me a really big idiot. You’re literally talking about my life’s work. Do you have any idea how I would react if the gov’t started seizing my retirement assets?

        Or if there were even any credible discussion of that as a policy? Me, everyone in my family, and my entire social class would be using everything we had to end the career of anyone who proposed that.

        Lowe

        November 8, 2019 at EST am

    • IOW, Bevins became an austerity junkie. Never do this. The focus on Kentucky is economic growth and making sure the benefits of that growth go to Kentuckians.

      This is a very informative post.

      map

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • The poster Map totally gets it. Bevin’s nerdy obsession with the budget destroyed him. Bevin came across as a dorky beta when he started blabbing about balancing the budget. Kentuckians glanced at him and said “Look at this dweeb taking away our free stuff!’ Some female teachers see Andy Beshear as a confident alpha who is going to figure things out instead of whine and give up like that beta wimp Matt Bevin. Election Day was one big wedgie for Bevin.

        Kentucky is a state that has a lot of voters who vote Republican for pretty much one reason: Abortion. You don’t have to look hard in Kentucky to find these people. That the very unpopular Bevin lost by .4 percentage points shows just how conservative Kentucky actually is.

        The unpopular Bevin was challenged in the Republican primaries and barely won. If he had dropped out and allowed another Republican to take his place his party likely would have kept Kentucky. But like many politicians Bevin is arrogant and power hungry. Every Republican in America should have scorn for Bevin and his selfish actions.

        John

        November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • @John

        Obviously conservative fiscal policy is not the way to win elections, or the way to administrate once in office. Unfortunately there is a lot of pent up capital in our society, which can only be deployed by the state.

        H/e your gross analogizing is making me feel a lot less sympathetic to voters who need or want public benefits, to be frank.

        Lowe

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

      • “your gross analogizing is making me feel a lot less sympathetic to voters who need or want public benefits, to be frank.”

        To be frank, the facts don’t care about your feelings. I am not here to sell you on anything. I find your post to be gross. It’s not my fault that people in school get bullied, or that they perceive some people to be wimps or dweebs. Or that adults can sometimes act this way, too.

        Bevin came in with his calculator and told everyone “Government costs too much!” It’s not my fault voters noticed the taped glasses and pocket protector and shoved him into a locker.

        John

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

      • Does this actually have anything to do with childhood bullying and alpha/beta? Or is that all in your head, because you’ve read too much Roissy.

        Lowe

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

  19. It’s nice we are still discussing how states voted and politics in the USA.

    I firmly believe President Obama was trying hard to help usher in globalism and globalist rule…and that’s one big reason I hope and pray President Trump gets his second term. Globalism doesn’t make your world any bigger, but it does make the US citizen (and all people across the globe, except for the elites) a helluva lot smaller with fewer rights and liberties.

    Johnson

    November 6, 2019 at EST pm

    • Globalism doesn’t make all that much difference if you are already living stuck in a global empire with over 350 million “citizens” and 100s of millions of imperial subjects (which is what most of Europe and a lot of Asia is,even if Trump is trying to dismantle that.)

      I mean you have a point, but the real answer is not Trump, it is more local control devolved to States and municipalities. The freest people in the world are the Swiss – the central government is very weak, and most decisions are made at the Canton level.

      Peter Akuleyev

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

  20. David French Retweeted:

    MEH 0910

    November 7, 2019 at EST am

  21. “The upper-class and college-educated types more and more are voting to have their taxes increased.”

    Trump fans seem not to understand how repulsive Trump is to people who still believe in old-fashioned middle class American morality. We are the bourgeois, the backbone of the nation, and we oppose Trump as a human being, not for his policies.

    I just will never understand people who act like the 1980s, 90s, and 00s didn’t happen. The bankruptcies, Marla Maples, the USFL debacle, the gauche Howard Stern appearances, the cocaine abuse, the sleazy friendships with organized crime figures, Trump Air, the gold toilets, The stupidity of The Apprentice, Trump University, on and on. For me Trump has been a symbol of the worst of America for as long as I can remember. Maybe we can elect a Kardashian or OJ Simpson next.

    Peter Akuleyev

    November 7, 2019 at EST am

    • Poor Peter A. He befilths himself every time he has to set foot on the sordid American soil.

      Nobody needs you here. We have plenty of worthless cucks without you, so please, go back.

      peterike

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • No one is a bigger cuck than Trump fanboys. He condescends to you, steals your money and you love it. The cuckservative insult is so 2014 at this point. It has lost any sting.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

    • I was a lefty kid in the eighties and I remember Trump and I didn’t like him one bit. As I grew older I found him even more unbearable. It was like the more obnoxious and cocky he got, the more popular he became, his appeal was beyond me. Jump to 2015 and everything changed. Political correctness and leftist progressiveness had become so overbearing that when a loudmouth like Trump walked into the room and bluntly mocked rude, overweight lesbian Rosie O’Donnell, it was like manna from heaven. And I haven’t looked back since. Whatever Trump’s shortcomings–and I’m sure they’re legion–he was/is the perfect man to pushback against the toxic liberalism of our time.

      Roli

      November 7, 2019 at EST am

      • “Political correctness and leftist progressiveness had become so overbearing”

        Not in my world. I work in the business world. I worked with 95% white men in 1998, and I work with 85% white men in 2019 (there are definitely more South Asian men around in business than 20 years ago). The only time I interact with gays is if they are waiting tables at a restaurant. I rarely deal with black people, even when I am in the US.

        Is PC really a thing in most people’s daily lives or just media hype? Maybe if you are a college student things are different, that I could see being fucking annoying.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

      • @Peter Akuleyev

        FYI I’m a Sikh/ Indian man myself, but have notice that given half a chance most minorities (whether they be Indian, Black, Muslim, gay or feminist) will act like complete dicks, not because they’re inherently evil, but because our contemporary social and legal order allows them to be dicks, and quite often rewards them for dickish behavior. I wish it weren’t the case, but it is what it is.

        Roli

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

    • “We are the bourgeois, the backbone of the nation”

      lol

      IHTG

      November 7, 2019 at EST pm

      • Scratch an alt rightist and you expose the Bolshevik lurking underneath.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 7, 2019 at EST pm

  22. Virginia is now literally the Deep State lol

    Fact Checker

    November 7, 2019 at EST pm


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